Øresundståg trip report : The perfect hop between Malmö and Copenhagen
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2020
- EUROPEAN TRAIN TRIP #20
Hej!
Welcome to this another leg of the European train trip, today we are travelling with Øresundståg, the regional carrier owned by DSB and Transdev, this journey will take us to Copenhagen after a beautiful cross of the Øresund strait on the Øresund Bridge (Of course). Enjoy
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- TRIP INFORMATION -
RECORDED IN AUGUST 2019
Railway company: Øresundståg
Train type : ET / X31K
Registration : 4547
From : Malmö Central to Copenhagen
Time : 0h36
Price : Around 15€
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I drive this train, although not on this route. It’s a comfortable train to drive - breaking is excellent. You can perform a rather aggressive breaking, but it will still be comfortable. The biggest downside with this train from my perspective is the lack of a cabin door. This means that I as a driver will have to wait for everyone to get out of the train in order to get in and start readying the train - and if the first passenger door is out of order, then there’s a looooong way to the cabin. It’s a poor decision. During rush hour this can delay the train - and there is nothing I can do about it. Thank’s for the video - it was very fun to watch :)
I always wondered why it doesn´t have a cabin door when the siblings IC3 and IR4 do.
What is a "cabin door" in this sense?
@@DugrozReports A door on the sides of the drivers cabin - so he can step directly in there instead of going through the train :)
crossing the strait is a MUST fo every railway or travel enthusiast. Or if you're just interested into this masterpiece of engineering.
The bridge toll for the car was set to match the old ferry fare. They also have to pay off the bridge costs.
Did you notice that you could walk between the trainsets, since the driver's cabin can fold away? =)
The folded cabin is hidden behind a thin folding door, so you won't notice it if you're just walking past :) also this is to keep curious passengers from fiddling with the front of the train (wipers etc.).
Beautiful bridge and scenery . 95% of travellers staring at
their phone screens..! ? !
Nice video as always! Here are some more trains to try if you come to Sweden again:
Snälltåget - a privately operated intercity train between Stockholm and Malmö using former german coaches and a very nice dining car
MTRX - another private intercity service, which runs Stadler FLIRT EMUs from Stockholm to Gothenburg
SJ 3000 - a very sleek and modern high speed train serving routes like Stockholm - Umeå, Stockholm - Duved and Gothenburg - Malmö
SJ overnight train - if you book a 2nd class sleeping compartment on any route, you may get a berth in a cozy 1960's sleeper
Roslagsbanan - a commuter line from Stockholm to its northern suburbs, which is also Sweden's last regular narrow guage railway
You should really get on board of the HSR between Oslo Central Station and Oslo airport, the "Flytoget" or airport train, consisting out of GMB Class 71, with a very nice and comfortable interior and interesting, different kind of layout
Best trip report channel ever! Keep going. Love all the vids :)
It feels awesome to have finally been on the same train as in one of your videos.
Simply amazing video! Thanks for it!
Your production value is always fantastic. Great job.
Very fascinating short train trip.
As always, a great production.
Greetings from San Francisco, California.
I’ve taken this train on this route and it is very nice!!
Great trip report!! Thank you!🚈🚇
Your videos are always amazing. One little detail : when you mention the tension you put in like " 25 Kv " or " 15 Kv ". The proper way is " 25 kV " or " 15 kV ". Anyway, thanks a lot for your videos !!
Yes, and tension is not frequence, which is expressed in Hz
So funny to see a train where you’ve actually been on!
One thing I noticed taking this journey is the language on the displays changes as soon as you get to the first station on the other side. This includes the reservation screens just above the seats.
Do they do the announcements the same way? I've heard that Swedish and Danish are mutually intelligible, but I wonder if a conductor would be able to do both announcements.
I can’t recall as I don’t speak Swedish or Danish!
@@iantownsend6708 Well, they kind of speak while mixing the languages. Some speak both languages. Also, most people going that route are commuters. So, we speak both danish and Swedish. They also do the announcements in English in Malmö and Copenhagen.
Unfortunately you had an train with old interior - the updated ones are more pleased. And you actually can classify these trains as a sort of commuter train
The looks aren't that bad, but some seats are in dire shape, completely worn out, and scratched windows.
I agree, when i was in malmo, I took the modern train to catch my flight in Copenhagen , the train was so comfy.
Hey Thibault! Really cool video! ;) Please add a little bit more footages from the landscapes/cities/stations you pass! :D
Good video on the oresund bridge train from malmo to Copenhagen
Nice video!!!!! thank you for sharing!!!!!!
Lindo estação do tren simplys boa viagem ai para vc malmo
Im from Denmark.
Good news! In 2022, there will official be going night trains in denmark, to different destinations in Europe. (They will all leave from CPH Central station)
From Malmö and Stockholm with stops in Denmark on the way. It's the swedish government that are starting the night train routes (with support from the danish counterpart).
www.thelocal.se/20200116/sweden-reveals-plans-for-overnight-trains-to-several-european-cities
www.themayor.eu/en/nordic-countries-and-mainland-europe-to-be-connected-by-night-trains-by-2022
@@narutoxo Yes sorry! Its from Sweden they will come from, but stop in Copenhagen 😊
I've done that journey before. Very cool 😎
Another great journey.
Fun fact: Öresundståg actually run all the way up to Gothenburg!
Great video !!
That was excellent !!!
Thanks for the nice report! Please be aware that this isn't considered an IC3 trainset in the Danish terminology. IC3 is a DMU only and an EMU isn't by definition be a "lastest generation" of an DMU.
The IC3 mistake lead some people to comment - "oh, how nice that the IC3 is still operating." Although the IC3 is indeed in operation, these people get the wrong impression since they in essens are commentating on a DMU which usually has a shorter life span than EMUs.
And neither in Swedish or in any other terminology, either. So you're so right. The X31K/ET EMU's only real relationship to Danish IC3's are the rubber fronts that can be folded away. The rest of the train is actually much more related to the Swedish Regina family of trains (X50/X51/X52/X53/X54/X55), built by AdTranz/Bombardier.
@@augustekman That's not true. The trains are "mostly" danish, and yes, they are considered in family with the IC3. Since they couple and drive EMU and DMU together, they're made to be compatible for each other.
@@nexibel9496 I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I think you are confusing the X31K/ET EMU's ("Øresundståg") with the ER ("IR4") EMU's. The latter are Danish developed trains that share a great deal of design with the MF ("IC3") DMU's and can be coupled together with them. The ER are 25 kV/50 Hz four car units with jacob bogies built by Scandia and only used in Danish domestic services. The X31K/ET ("Øresundståg") units are three car two-system (25 kV 50 Hz + 15 kV 16 2/3 Hz) units built by AdTranz (later Bombardier) with normal bogies built for cross border operations, based on a completely different platform. The ET/X31K are predominantly used on services crossing the Öresund bridge and cannot be operated in multiple with the MF/IC3 nor the ER/IR4.
It would have been interesting to look out the window at the bridge/island/tunnel transition. That kind of engineering is something to marvel at.
If you go both ways, the bus (line 999 of Gråhund bus, or another private bus company like Swebus) can be cheaper (120 SEK return on the 999, flexible pricing on others), but the number of return trips of the 999 have been slashed to a mere 3/day (no during Covid). The train is definitely the most flexible way to travel. If you come from Göteborg, though, I would suggest to try the ferry from Helsingborg to Helsingør.
The gråhund bus always had very few departurea, sadly.
Nice one!
Exelente.medio
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Even a $14 toll seems a bit steep. But a $74 toll?! That’s more than a tank of gas!! (For most cars as least)
The animated maps are a good new feature in your videos!
6:41 unbelievable. a coffee machine which is next to the toilets 😂😂😂 Well done that train’s designer
For me it is a Winning design
Yay a danish train! I hope you’ll do more trip reports in Denmark!
He has a video about denmark also this one :D czcams.com/video/0nXwWBW5zDo/video.html
Yea I saw it
Swedish-Danish* ;)
Martin Frostnäs yes I know, but I’m just shining light on the danish part of it
@@martinfrostnas6610 mostly danish
Amazing👌
it’s nice to know that the IC3 is still alive
one set was brought to Amtrak and did some services before being sent back
The IC3 is very much alive, and will probably be for about 10-15 years maybe!
Yeah it has been the workhorse of the Danish state railways since 1989. The current plans are for them to be retired between 2024 and 2029 as new EMU's along with electrification and a nationwide ERTMS rollout will take their place.
DrDewott ok thanks for the correction
@@MangoMouse1604 Oh I didn't even see your comment when I was writing mine. But yeah they're gonna be out within the next 10 years. The original plans way back in the day was to already retire them now but of course that didn't happen for a number of Italian reasons.
DrDewott yeah haha
Hav en go’ dag
At least the woman SLOWLY walking down the ramp while on her phone didn't stop suddenly at the bottom.
Vaguely reminds me of the Bombardier train sets on the Long Island Railroad
Such a nice looking EMU
@Simply Railway Nice Video Do You Think You'll Do One Of The Routes In Norway?
I love that you describe this as perfect, my journey two summers ago was disrupted in both directions. Still a "cancelled" train doesn't contribute towards "late" train statistics, apparently.
Yeah but even still DSB is not known for running trains on time. Not including canceled trains, their running services have serious delays about 20% of the time! Absolutely horrendous. DSB is a joke here, not on par with any other national railways in Western Europe! And that's on top of the overpriced tickets and lack of service. I mean on their longest routes that can take close to 5 hours, there's only a single bottled water vending machine on board.
Yes, the guy was lucky. These trains are so unreliable that an alternative such as a bus or ferry should exist to not cut Malmö from the airport everytime DSB fucks up
Oh no, you forgot to show the gangway between the trainsets! The driver's console can be turned to the side opening the front for passage, just like the IC3 DMU.
Also, you're lucky you got an unrefurbished train. The refurbished train has no paper towels in the toilet, rather a very uncomfortable air dryer. On the other hand, unrefurbished trains have the exact same seats in 1st class save for the leather, refurbished trains have new, more comfortable seats
Well that was only one trainset unfortunately :(
Really? I found the new first class seats to not be very comfortable at all.
From my option those X31K sets is good for traveling on shorter distances, but for travelling along longer lines (Copenhagen - Göteborg, Kalmar or Karlskrona) the trains are very uncomfortable. The trains runs for routes that is up to 4 hours long. Often the toilets isn't working or something else is broken on the trains. If you're travelling more than a hour your back will hurt. All over this, the trains of often overcrowded, especially on the part between Copenhagen - Malmö - Helsingborg.
Then those wending machines, they aren't in use anymore and on the refurbished trains, they have replaced the machines with luggage holders.
They should simply replace the long distance trips for other services and have this train shuttling back and forth between Lund Malmö and Copenhagen
Also, I live in Sweden for 6 years and I don't remember these vending machines (other than the coffee one) ever working
I honestly don't think that they are that bad, they feel more than adequate for journeys up to an hour and if you need to go a longer distance SJ runs services between Gothenburg and Malmö. And on several lines they have a small vending-cart with a far better assortment than the old vending-machines.
Axel Hejnebo They aren't though. I went with an overcrowded shitty Øresundståg from Copenhagen to Gothenburg. Extremely uncomfortable and dirty along with an overpriced trolley service..
@@gourmetbacon5750 @AxelHejnebo
Since about a month ago they ended the service with the trolley. The say that it will return in another shape in December when SJ takes over the service from Transdev. But I assume that it will never return. 🤷🏻♂️
Because of the thick rubber bulges at the ends of the car (and thus also at the front of the train), these trains are nicknamed "Gumminasen" ('rubber noses') in Germany. The IC3 drive from Denmark to Hamburg, Germany, too, via Puttgarden, Germany, where the train was boarding a railway ferry or left it. - Cheers, Heinz
They don't operate via the Rødby-Puttgarden ferry anymore. They run via the Great Belt link and Flensburg instead
@@andrewsebastianrothgarnant350 - You are right. If somebody is interested in how these IC3 operated at ferries please watch czcams.com/video/CDR6vi7TWAQ/video.html
You told us how beautiful the journey was but showed almost none of it. I wish that you would balance the review evenly more with scenery and train information. Thanks
I did this as a return journey (but the other way round) last year. Did you get questioned by the transport police on the train too?
They refurbished the seat when I rode it last month. Services are great except for the fact it always got crowded.
This is a good video
Good video
I really love and appreciate your videos! Do you think you would go to China to try their high speed rail after the COVID situation is better? Their high speed rail system is pretty advanced.
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Can you please make a review of the x 3000 between stockholm and Umeå?!
Used them quite a bit Copenhagen to Göteborg. More a commuter train than long distance, but comfortable enough in First Class. Speed limit on the link is 150km/hr and they do run at that speed pretty well all the way across. Transit about 7 mins.
They do run at the max speed of 180km/h at least between Hyllie and CPH
Uncomfortable as fuck in second class on that route though
This train actually has little to do with the IC3 trains, except for the front design. "IC3" is just a nickname given to the original MF-units as part of a marketing campaign, just like the electric units (ER) are called IR4. Another interesting fact: There used to be a series of 10 Øresundståg trainsets called X32. They were completely identical to the normal Øresundståg sets, except for the interior. Back when these trains were introduced, Sweden still had a very high standard when it came to comfort, and the swedish customers absolutely HATED the Øresundståg because of the "danish plastic seats". So the First Class seats you saw were actually used as Second Class seats in the X32 sets, and the First Class in the X32 sets was more similar to the X2000/Snabbtåg. It was a VERY comfortable train. It somestimes (but rarely) happened that an X32 set made it's way to Denmark, which resulted in confused looks from the danish commuters, who couldn't find the second class carriage.
Please do an Acela review!
Nice job!
In Israel the IC3 is almost not in use even though isralrailwayes still has a few which can drive (and they ride low demand routs)
didn't they also buy the trains before they got the aircon kinks worked out properly in them? Would explain why they don't use them as much.
Cool. What program do you use to make the animated maps? 🤔
Fantastic! It’s good to have the review and I hope to do this trip 😬 did you do one for Hamburg to Copenhagen by any chance? Would love to see that 😊
He uploaded one he did from Copenhagen to Flensburg with a transfer in Fredericia back in January.
DrDewott Thanks. Will search it now
Lovely videos as always❤️. Will you do train trip in Asia?
Sure, next year
Another great video. Seeing the artificial island makes me wonder how long until a wall needs to be built around it to protect it from rising sea levels.
Is there wind speed limit for trains crossing the bride? Years ago, when trainferris still ran between Hälsingborg and Helsingör the service was interrupted during stormy weather.
Yes, passenger trains are not allowed at wind speeds above 27 m/s.
These trains are going under refurbishment and the refurbished ones are better in my opinion. Also while they are trains that cross borders they do serve as regional to long distance trains in Sweden.
why did he say you can clearly see the lower level when he is on the lower level
Ces trains là ont un air aux AM 96 belges 🇧🇪
C'est même un copié collé
I live here and hate those trains with passion. For a start they are literally the most expensive train on earth. Between Malmö and the Copenhagen Airport you pay 12 euro for a 20 minute ride. A return trip between two neighbour cities cost me over 30 euro. Uncomfortable seats, filthy and unoperational toilets, no WiFi in almost all trains, crowded and above all, extremely unreliable, late, cancellations all the time and you have no alternative between the cities. I once needed to pay over 100 euro on a taxi to not miss a flight.
Yeah, I never bother paying
Agreed, I once had to ride an overcrowded Öresundståg all the way from Copenhagen to Gothenburg. Probably my worst train travel experience. I hope they improve now that SJ took over..
Do a video on the Swiss giruno train
i like the x31k trains
how many videos from euro trip will be there ?
If you ever decide to hit up Norway, I’d suggest you take in the The Flåm Line is a 20.2-kilometer long railway line between Myrdal and Flåm in Aurland Municipality, in Vestland county, Norway. A branch line of the Bergen Line, it runs through the valley of Flåmsdalen and connects the mainline with Sognefjord. The scenery is beautiful. The train is very very popular.
5:22 actually the longest bridge in Europe is the Vasco da Gama bridge in Lisbon
Vasco da Gama is only a road bridge, this is a combined rail and road bridge
@@kebrl ok then
Kerch Strait Bridge the longest bridge in Europe
Like your videos and that's a matter of fact French trains operating to or from Germany and Switzerland to encounter the same electrical voltage change as Denmark and Sweden 25Kv 50hz (60hz it's for North America Western Japan and South Korea) to 15kv 16.7hz. The reasons why it has the island on The Danish side coppenhagen Airport
The power changes to 25kV in Sweden before you enter the bridge. The bridge itself has Danish power (25kV) and Swedish signalling (ATC-2/L10000). The switch to Danish signalling (ZUB123, soon ETCS level 2) is on Peberholm.
Love the DSB and their trains:3
One of the only nice ones from Bombardier but can't see 'em here in Germany:(
Sorry, only danish old Ic3 trains for you. They only go to Hamburg.
@@oscarjohansson2167 saw them there xD
And on top of that, starting in 2023 they'll be replaced by new trains from Talgo
Did you know that next year the Swedish national carrier SJ will take over the Swedish side of Øresundtåg from Transdev?
They will also bin those outdated uncomfortable trains for new double decker Stadler Flirts. Will be a massive improvement
@@fresagrus4490 No they won't bin the X31/ET, the flirts will only be used by Skånetrafiken to bolster the capacity on the Helsingborg-Köpenhamn run where they can't make the trains any longer, the X31/ET will probably be in use for at least another ten years.
Je suis en faveur du train comme moyen de transport, surtout vs l'avion. Il serait cependant utile de préciser qu'en Europe, lorsque l'on compare les tarifs entre train et voiture, les compagnies de chemin de fer perçoivent des subsides des états, ce qui leur permet de pratiquer des tarifs compétitifs par rapport à la voiture. Mais au final, c'est nous, avec nos impôts, qui payons la différence !
Do you need a passport, is it just like airport security or a regular train station?
Nope. Just hop on and ride. Did this trip myself in April 2019.
Very good Video as always but this time there are too many maps / they are shown too long in my opinion
Unluckily You Didint Get On One Of The Renovated Trains
Zlatan actually grew up in malmö
Maybe Ikea would copy the seats of the DSB IC trains (If DSB (A Danish company) wouldn't be angry with that). You know, there are very comfortable
Trust me DSB doesn't exactly care much about comfort these days. The New upholstry on the IC3's is incredibly hard, and on the IC4's and their newly ordered Talgo trains there aren't even different seats for 1st class. But once they start retiring the IC3's and IR4's then go and grab some if you'd like.
why do you always like riding trains backwards?
8:20 you say MOST passengers get off. Has the border control ended? Because it involved getting off and passing through temporarily set-up booths before re-boarding the train
It seems like this report is recorded before March this year. The border control hos not ended yet..
Thinking of visiting Copenhagen soon and day tripping to Malmo. Thankfully Ireland, my country is allowed to visit Denmark and Sweden (for now) was just wondering how the border situation is at the minute.
Are they allowing day trippers who aren’t Swedish or Danish?
@@darrencorr5903 Only Denmark has restrictions; Sweden's completely open. As for Denmark, it's not based on citizenship, but residency. Residents of most EU/Schengen countries, and some third countries, can visit. So just bring an Irish passport OR passport card, and, just to be safe, some proof of residing in Ireland.
Ah thank you so much for your help!
Looks like I’ll be able to do it then.
as a british i wonder why these kind of trains are different on the front of the train and the back of the train…
Is there still passport control when I cross the border?
No sir
Its also called a OTU train
3:57 Veolia Transport The Netherlands tune ? Wat the 🤣
It reminds me alot from the good old days with Veolia , well builded buses , friendly drivers and 80% on time ..
Tudutuu , Reinier De Graaf Gasthuis , Reist u met een OV-Chipkaart . Vergeet dan niet om uit te checken
Its the same tone used on the T bana and pendeltåg in Stockholm
@@GlennTrtanj aah ok
Many Malmö people went to Copenhagen to catch a flight?
Nice little trip report. Btw just so you know, this was one of the unrefurbished units. In the new refurbished units, the coffee machine has been removed and wheelchair seating has been put in its place. The upholstry has changed on the second class seats to grey with a black headrest compared to the previous blue and green. And to top it off the 1st class seats have been replaced by new Kiel Comfortline seats like those on MTRX. A big downgrade if you ask me, those seats feel incredibly hard. You can easily find pictures of all of this with a google search or by watching this viceo from the reveal of the new design a few years ago. czcams.com/video/r67TuuELCP4/video.html
Also on a little side note, a big thing with these "Contessa" sets and the other IC3 family sets is of course that you can walk from unit to unit while the train is running thanks to the rubber nose.
are you gonna try BWE or BGE Trains?
(Berlin warszawa express and Berlin Gdynia express trains)
Try indian railways general class
CAN YOU TRY SOME CHINESE SLEEPER TRAINS? I WANTED TO KNOW HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT A CHINESE RAILCAR SLEEPING BERTH
I live in Malmö
And in the future Malmö will probably become part of the Copenhagen metro system!
4:06 why does it sound like you are on an airplane?
Was this recorded last year? No masks, no 1.5m distance, nothing at all, how is this possible? No Corona ?
This video was probably recorded before the plandemic. Even today the Öresundtrains is overcrowded and masks is pretty rare to see in Sweden.
These trains were essentially rolling mosh pits every rush hour before Corona.
More sweden!
Where is the Acela