Snake: I Really Don't Like This Habs Pick... | The Sick Podcast with Tony Marinaro June 29 2024
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- On this episode of The Sick Podcast, Simon 'The Snake' Boisvert joins Tony Marinaro to break down the Montreal Canadiens' 2024 draft class.
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Love snake on the pod he’s amazing he always brings entertainment. Please keep bringing him back throughout the summer
haha he is a hack at best!
he's a fucking joke
He really grows on you. At first you may think he’s negative, a hater. But then you start to see that’s just the way he sees things and that’s alright!
Latvian speaker here. Vecvanags is pronounced Vets-Vun-Ughs (Vets as in veterans, Vun sounds like fun but with the "V' sound, Ughs like the footwear)
Gold lol
SICK!
Thanks mate :D
Vetsvunugzzzz
Thanks! Where are you from exactly? Visited your country along with Estonia in 2011...beautiful stuff there!
Because of Dach's injury and Arizona winning their last game of the season, Montreal ended up with the 5th position and Demidov. In a rebuild, loging games does help at times !!!
losing games...
I saw Lafleur in one of the last games he played in the minors... and at that time he was a centre... and since Lafleur... we never had the chance to pick a Demidov... I am so so so happy... Can’t believe it is un habitant Canadien...
Agreed! Demidov the Dangler! This pick is a franchise changer as was the Lafleur pick back in 1971.
Just getting Demidov, whom we all agree would be a 1st or 2nd overall pick the year we got Slaf, and if we were able to add a fantastic number 3 centre on a Stanley Cup contending team in Hage... This draft was an overwhelming success. If anyone, including Koivu pans out, that is just gravy! Well done Habs. The future is UNBELIEVABLY BRIGHT!!!
More i listen to snake here or processus.. more i like the guy .. he is so smart
Can not wipe the smile off my face. Wounderful draft. Love this management group. Leaf fans have to be angry about this. GO HABS!!!
It'll be a lot of fun for us to compare Demidov and Celebrini in the upcoming years.
Yes, The next Crosby/Ovi type situation of this draft hopefully!
*2027 Canadiens Roster*
Demidov - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Caufield - Dach - Hage
Newhook - Beck - Roy
Tuck - Kapanin - Xhekaj
And so many others that can slot in here... Looking good!
see look we dont need to sign no 1
I like it, but I'd keep caufield with Slaf and Suzuki. Good chemistry with Cole and Nick,also spreading the talent would make us tougher to match up Against.
@@Veal44 I don't think Caufield performs well as a first-line winger going up against the best D pairings.
Wow, this episode was a great show. Very respectful back and forth on multiple topics. Merci Simon
Never really followed the draft before but the coverage that this popcast had sparked my interest. Great job.
The 'character' theme from the HABS management (Gorton & Hughes) has been in place from the beginning, since their first draft in 2022.
I absolutely trust our management & coaching team.
They are making all the right choices, and hopefully they will not feel pressured to 'RUSH' the rebuild in any way despite the impatience of a few HABS fans.
55:43 snake make his biggest statement about the Habs' Future
Demidov will be a superstar because of the way he takes off his jacket.
You should have seen him put on his shoes!
@@Doppps😂😂 .. lol he didn't even need polish to shine them up !
@@Kris-bx5qj Tony spit on them for him for good luck.
Stoked we got Makar Khanin. Shoutout to Grant for highlighting him earlier this season!
Question for Tony & Snake:
How would you rank as
#1, #2, #3, these 3 players at their draft age of 18:
Kirby Dach ?
Nick Suzuki ?
Michael Hage ?
Probably in that exact order
by their draft rankings obviously
That Monahan pick up has paid great dividends. That was a genius move by KH.
Great episode guys!
Demidov looks like Kovalev might have ‘known’ his mother…. Similar looks similar hands
that insider talk was amazing. Man they drive me nuts
Loved the back ‘n forth. You guys are pure gold. Thank you.
J’adore quand « le serpent » passe sur ton podcast Tony! Tu devrais l’avoir une fois par semaine selon moi :)
Bravo Tony Snake... Tony... I am starting to love your signing... then I realize... I probably took too much beer : --)
I was very happy with this years draft. I hate to suggest this,but a top 10 pick in next years draft,to get an elite or close to elite 1st round pick,to solidify the rebuild would be acceptable. After that, it’s full speed ahead. I’m sure that I’m going to catch some crap,but that’s ok.
Eyerolling at the 'why no French Canadian players?' question.
Pourquoi? On a encore passé a côté.
I think the Quebec major l League should only play .... 52 games a year
Why? Why does it bother you so much? Really? Every culture likes local playrers, e.g. Slaf in Slovakia, Ohtani in Japan, etc. But when it comes to us, all hell breaks loose. WHY? Will you have the courage to explain exactly why?
@@Globox67 À côté de quoi? Poirier? Trop petit ;)
Sick Podcast! Comme à chaque fois que "le serpent" is on the show. Thank you guys for entertainement ✌️
Listening to this podcast is very informative and enjoyable. I compare this show to other past shows with Joe Cannon and Ted Tevan.
Btw Snake is a treasure. Merci Simon.
Tony, best comment you gave there: rather to talk to people like Snake (and Grant) with their own opinion, even if they are wrong sometimes. More Snake and Grant. Sharks fan from Slovakia.
Listening Tony sing to us is like watching him clean his stinky parts. Save that shit got closed doors
QUENTIN MUSTY
Picked up a six pack of bit atibi took in the draft and loved both!
53:54 Tony describing Craig Button 😂
facts
Snake is my favorite guest.
It would make sense to have Demidov on one line, and the current Suzuki line on another. Two great lines with offensive threat. We can play Demidov and Suzuki on the PP.
Tony! You always go to games free in the press box on Saturdays! LOL
Tony 2025 is also tje year we sign Darisaitl!
Id almost be okay with zegras if the price is right because now he should be able to play with caufield and can see them having chemistry
we have demidov. they are similar, lashy playy maker and demidov plays at a high pace but michkov is more generational. 52 points khl. mhl is reallyreally low compare to khl
@@tuttifrutti2229
Demidov will have the better +/- though
no zegras. we need a powerforward or someone with that dog in him on that second line.
Seagrass is a loser
; seagrass is another Drouin
I ain't never seen Snakes on a Pod
"53:25-54:40" it cracks me up when people esculate themselves. But agree!
Sick Sick Sick draft...
Sick Sick Sick podcasts with Simon the serpent Tony hahaha .
1st time ever i agree with the snake 100 % here
Snake is correct about college. Look at every NCAA roster and every Canadian is an NHL draft pick. They have “hockey majors”. How many Cornell players are in Hotel Management.
Yes, if it was the OHL or WHL. Not the Q. That league is 💩
31:20 I agree.
OH QUE OUI LES BOYS
Snake is the best.
Opera is absolutely the next step for Tony
Remember Doug Harvey once said , "you can't teach instinct ". !!!!!
The singing went on too long...
Love when Tony blasts the French media BS.
why mentionning that they are french? what does it have anything to do with it? english media never ask bad questions?
@@PMB-hm7pc it has everything to do with unnecessary pressure to draft and employe Quebec players and staff. Get the best people period or continue to lose every year.
@@matthewryan9811 they already lose every year and they are not drafting french guys lol The times when that team was great is when they used to have lots of french canadians playing for them.
Sure and Maurice Richard and Guy Lafluer were available in the third round in 2024....if you think Quebec is pumping out the quantity and quality, of the 50s, 60s, 70s and even 80s than you are sadly mistaken. I wish, but the rest of the world caught up and/or Quebec doesn't produce as many. Montreal also doesn't benefit from the scouting monopoly it once enjoyed locally before the modern hockey era. I am a diehard fan and this narrative makes me frustrated, it is counterproductive to limit the team's prospects.
@@matthewryan9811 this ''narrative'' never prevented the team direction to do anything, especially drafting bad players. except Leblanc maybe. maybe they should try drafting more players from quebec in the later rounds. that would be a start.
They could have drafted Justin Poirier... they SHOULD have drafted Justin Poirier... dumb dumb dumb. And no, I don't even care where he's from. If there's even just a small chance that he makes it he's going to be really exciting to watch.
#ridethesnake
I don’t like the Quebec question every year either, as a French Canadien I feel it just opens a negative discussion over and over again. Sad that u feel u have to open up that subject every time.
Sad? Tony c'est juste une personalité; il sait pas de quoi il parle. Il remue la merde pour des views. Mikus Vecvanags et Tyler Thorpe au lieu de Poirier en 5e ronde: pourquoi est-ce qu'il n'en discute pas et se met immédiatement à pleurer pour éviter le sujet? C'est les gens comme Tony qui profitent des tensions et de la négativité. Regarde les commentaires d'anglophones qui sont bien content que Tony renforce leurs idées préconcues de nous. Sois pas triste pour Tony, c'est ça qu'il veut!
I don’t care that they don’t pick kids from qc, If they pick well. which I think the Hughes/Gorton administration has done. In the Timmins year it was getting on my nerves because he was drafting like complete shithead. Cela dit…. They always invite a good amount of young gars de chez nous to camp, and some comes out with contracts.
Hey Tony, you ask about hockey Quebec, my god, it is a shit show. I decided to help as an assistant coach in my son’s M13C team. Just to show that the mediocrity is not just in elite youngsters, but generally deep rooted throughout the association. Always putting road blocks to the kids development, such as, well in the C level, you CANNOT show them this or that. WTF
You guys have to stop this BS about "french born" players..yes I know the history and I know the culture, but do you want to win or not? No other team is handicapped by pressure to pick players from one province. Let go of that stupid BS. You're not producing enough good hockey players in Quebec anymore to be obligatd to pick them. You chose an Austrian French-speaker last year in the first round with Reinbacher. Oh he has to be from Quebec? SO produce better players so we can draft more...Look at the 1st round of the draft...how many from the Quebec league compared to OHL, WHL, and USHL??
It’s a different time. Guys like St. Louis and Vinny and recently PLD; were never coming to Montreal to play ever! They don’t want the pressure and don’t want the taxes. I am a 30 year Habs fan living in Ontario. Who cares where people are from, if they take pride in wearing the CH that’s better for the team overall.
I wouldn’t care if the team was made up of Martians. If they could be contenders or Cuo winners over the next 10 years,I will be most happy. A fan since 1959!
Stop it. WHY does it bother you so much? All cultures love local playes, be it it Slaf in Slovenia or Ohtani in Japan. Why is it different for us (rhetorical). It's not that people DEMAND that we draft local players, they're just disappointed that we don't (for whatever reason).
So STOP IT.
@@joegannon3213Woosh.
Talk about missing the point entirely. Amazing.
What chu singin' bout Willis??
Could Demidov join the team if the Habs make the playoffs?
Most likely. Khl playoffs finish in April i beleive
There won’t be any playoffs till 2026 lol at least
La Felicita!!!
Sick
Love it when you sing in Italian! 😀
How come were not hearing all the B.S. russian propanganda about the teen hockey player Demidov,. I still remmember every commentator, blogger, podcaster, an fans from all over just giving it to the teen hockey player Michkov just last yr. Must have been that darn President Póutîne up to no good again..
Seriously...passing his jacket....cmon man
I’m realizing more and more that if someone with decent entertainment skills comes along they could kill Tony’s podcast in a heartbeat. He’s way too gimmicky and I don’t think he really understands the game well.
i love Ivan demidov.. but am taken Slaf ahead of him..
just because of his size, stature.. Durability.
Demidov the more talented of the two...
but i take the 6'3 230 pound Prototypical, power forward.
all day every day...
but hey, we get the best of both worlds!
what a time to be alive!!!
Aatos Koivu, p/game with U20... not a fact?
Scout Nick Bobrov from here to for will be known as "Nicky Bobby".
EVEN if it's hust a marketing tool, so what? He a 70th pick!
i can not believe that in québec we can not develop any more hockey talent like Crosby Mario Lemieux David Letang Patrick Roy Martin Brodeur
Whenever there's a problem in quality ...
Just follow the money. ..... Who is abusing the system???
@@user-cw4ph5se6p Quebec did not develop Crosby. The kid played minor hockey in Nova Scotia and then went to the States until he was 15 and played in the Q. By the time he stepped foot in Quebec, he was already a developed prospect. The kid was way too good for that garbage league… the last actual forward Quebec developed was Vincent Lecavalier. Its bizzare you would even assume Quebec had anything to do with Crosby’s earlier and most crucial development. Honestly if Crosby was born and raised in Quebec he wouldn't of been a generational talent, the Quebecois have no clue how to develop hockey players anymore its sad actually that best players coming out of the Q were all from Nova Scotia and there wonderful hockey program Quebec should take notes and learn from them.
@@Whatdoingdog44 he did play in the Q the Canadien of Montréal did not draft nobody in the Q this year and you are right about Crosby development
I think the snakeman is way too dismissive of third round picks..a lot of 3rd rounders not only make it but star in the league.. We just sent one 3rd rounder Habs Captain to the Hall of Fame on the first ballot.
Knuckles Nyland picked in the ninth round
Can you NOT SING?
HAVE U HEARD MISCAPA LA PIPI? EACH TIME FLEURY WETS THE BED IN PLAYOFFS?ITS PRICELESS
Why waste a draft on a Quebec players when you known that none of them would be drafted. They will invite them to development camp and might sign them....without using a draft.
U surpente
That is what i keep saying regarding the LJMHQ: If the league was such a hotbed of promising prospects, teams would be flocking to these players. Who doesn't want great players? The math is simple: a mountain is full of gold, you go and dig there. A mountain is not full of gold, you go dig somewhere else. You try not to waste a pick in the draft. It's precious. If the LJMHQ attracts almost no one, it only has itself to blame. Ask yourself what you need to do to compete with other leagues. The Minister of Sports, a woman, had a great idea: let's cancel the fights. Meanwhile, other leagues and the NHL allow them.
Well, there you go. keep at it.
There's no excuse to pass on Justin Poirier twice in the 5th round for random unranked players, and don't tell me these picks are worth anything when we literally picked Florian Xhekaj with a 4th round pick last year because he's a "unicorn." The guy had 25 points as an over-ager. "You try not to waste a pick in the draft. It's precious." ― so let's draft guys who definitely won't make the NHL instead of a shorter guy who could make the NHL who literally fell to use on a silver platter and is a local? No one is complaining about us not using our good picks on Q guys. 5th round picks are worthless and we picked two 100% worthless players instead of picking a guy with some NHL upside.
@@ratoftoska7497 If the picks in the fifth round are lousy, what does that say about the LJMHQ players we would choose there? Everything you just said confirms what I wrote: why would General Managers refuse talent? If they prefer international players rather than ours, even in the fifth round, I think that says more about the mediocrity of the LJMHQ than about the evaluation of these General Managers. Again, the math is simple: the league does not offer enough talent so they will choose elsewhere. Don't worry, if there is gold there, they will go.
@@magicmike7198 " If the picks in the fifth round are lousy, what does that say about the LJMHQ players we would choose there?" You realize that what you're trying to point at doesn't logically follow, right? Just because there wasn't top end talent from the Q this year, that doesn't mean that a great Q player available in the fifth is suddenly worth less than a mediocre guy in the fifth.
GMs constantly make mistakes; in this case, the mistake is going to be passing over a talented player because he's St-Louis/Caufield size, for 0 risk because it's a 5th round pick. Tinordi, McCarron, Beaulieu, Kotkaniemi, Poeling and co. were all garbage big guys from the first round. But god forbid we use a fifth round pick on a Q player who might be a steal. We gotta get that "gold."
I am 100% certain that you guys would be crying right now in an alternate reality where Demidov and Sennecke were available, and we picked Sennecke because he's bigger. You'd be criticizing management, rightfully so. So don't act like you would never criticize a GM. What a bold-faced lie.
@@ratoftoska7497 Ok, well, that's your opinion. So be it. My point, i feel, is still valid: The Q, like you call it, doesn't attract GMs. Not even the Habs. That's a fact. Like it or not. The numbers aren't there. Year after year. Other leagues are doing better. For the same type of players, they will not chose players from the Q. So why? You don't have to answer. It's a rhetorical question.
@@magicmike7198 Comparable players from outside the Q wouldn't be available in the fifth round. It's not a good rhetorical question because the answer if obvious, but for my side of the argument.
The rest of the CHL isn't that much better than the Q calibre wise anyway, they just have higher top end players, more often. That's why they go early. We're talking about a 5th round pick; that's not OHL/WHL/USHL whatever HL top end talent range. Whether the OHL or WHL produces more high end talent is irrelevant at this point in the draft.
Your whole argument has been circular from the beginning. This is your logic:
The Q is bad -> GMs don't pick from the Q because it's bad -> The Q is bad as proven by the fact that GMs don't pick from the Q as much. Repeat.
Would you pass on MacKinnon, Huberdeau, Lafrenière, etc., because they played in the Q? Obviously not, so why does the Q's calibre matter so much suddenly? Demidov played in the MHL; that's Russian Junior. Should we have passed on him because it's not the WHL or OHL or USHL? Listen to yourself.
He’s wrong you can improve hockey sense.
Le CH ne fait d’effort pour recruter des joueurs québécois. Rien de nouveau et décevant. L’effort va vers les joueurs américains… assez peu canadien comme approche.
The skunk is never happy.
It's time to modernize our team and to select the best players available regardless of their cultural background, not to play petty politics IMO.
Le BPA entre Mikus Vecvanags, Tyler Thorpe et Justin Poirier, en 5e ronde, c'était qui? On a passé par dessus un joueur talentueux local pour des nobodies avec un choix de 5e tour sans valeur parce qu'il est petit. Alors maintenant au lieu d'avoir un prospect avec du potentiel mais une faiblesse (taille) on a des prospects sans potentiel NHL. Bravo!
@@ratoftoska7497 HABS management are not purposefully skipping over Quebecois players. They are simply making their choices based on skill, but also with a high emphasis on character as well IMO. Let's not imagine personal or cultural slights where there are none.
Hockey is a business and must be run as such.
I have full confidence in this HABS management team. They are simply rebuilding our team the best ay that they can.
@@juliencormier8760 Who said they purposefully pass over Q players? I'm saying that they took some random Latvian unranked goalie and a 40 point over-ager over a 17 year old 51 goal, 80+ pts regular season, 27 in 17 playoff guy that is local. It's valid criticism.
@@ratoftoska7497 Perhaps a reclamation project. We certainly don't have all the insight and inside information that the HABS scouts and management do.
@@juliencormier8760 We don't. I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me and having a discussion over a particular prospect from the Q. I clearly disagree with those picks over Poirier in the 5th round. I have no issues with someone disagreeing with me, even if I argue with them.
The problem is that Tony is stirring shit up by playing the supposed big deal "language issue" and acting like Timmins got unfair criticism because he was an Anglophone and not a Francophone like Martin Lapointe. The Timmins era drafted TERRIBLY: Tinordi, Beaulieu, McCarron, Scherback, Poehling, Koetkaniemi ― all big guys from outside of the Q except for Beaulieu, all trash.
Tony is purposefully playing into those petty politics when all he has is a soundbyte of journalists asking why they didn't go for a Q player this year. It's a non-story. It's a valid question that can give journalists insights into what management thinks of the Q or certain players. BUT Tony makes it a huge deal, makes inflammatory statements and creates a bunch of drama out of nothing.
Snake is 100% right about Columbus. This is a franchise that has being mired in mediocrity since they entered the NHL some 25 years ago. They had the chance to draft a real superstar in Demidov and they passed him over. This is mind boggling especially that Lindstrom has health issues (herniated disc). I'm very surprise that Don Waddell who only drafted skill players in Carolina went for Lindstrom. For Habs, Demidov is an unexpected gift fallen from the sky. I agree with Snake that he's the best player drafted by the Habs in the last 40 years.
I agree with most of what you say, but teams that win in the playoffs have size.
There are no Demidov’s in Stanley Cup finals.
So I am very happy they have Demidov because if he hits, they are a playoff team, but I don’t think he takes them over the top.
Habs top 6 is still small
Calice Tony. Come on man. Je ne peux pas croire que tu ne comprends pas pourquoi les journalistes posent la question?! C'est normal. Why are you talking about that all the time!? Anglo vs French.. ça m"enrage. C'est toi qui en parle tout le temps! Whe are you so "froissé" by that. Its f..... normal that ask. Lapointe is an american. Its Ok that they did not take a quebecor but... please stop making a story about that every year, every week, omg!!!
Bien dit! Marinaro aime attiser ce genre de tension, il sait ce que son auditoire veut entendre. Le CH aurait pu en prendre un ou deux mais en même temps, la Q ne produit plus beaucoup de bon prospect depuis plusieurs années et ne force pas la main du CH.
Who is calise which team did he play for?
@@FooFahFoeFumHe played for the Tabarnak of Saint-Sacrement.
@@sebastiencarrieres8825😂😂😂😂😂
Sommes-nous obliger de finir chaque repêchage sur une note négative? Peut-on avoir un repêchage que l'on se concentre sur les joueurs choisis par le CH et être content que les dépisteurs ont fait leur liste relativement aux projections des joueurs au lieu d'où la mère a acouché?
On n'aurait pas 49:42 49:46 le droit de vouloir des joueurs de chez nous ou même qui parlent un peu français?
Blah? 😅
Q has no talent this year. Smurfs don't count.
Who cares what a guy named snake thinks haha
Do the Habs regret not drafting Mitchkov last year. What a combination that would have been.
I would say they definitely don't regret it. If they picked Michkov they would be badly missing a number 1 right handed D now
At this point I have complete faith in HuGo. If they didn’t want to pick Mitchkov it’s for a reason.
I’ve also heard they didn’t pick Mitchkov because they were already high in ID last year, if there’s any credibility to that.
they drafted reinbacher with the idea that they can get a stud forward in this draft. they clearly think more highly of demidov than michkov. so the question is how does reinbacher compare to other available RD in this year's draft if you keep in mind they have an offensive dynamo in lane hutson already.
@@SamaelBDS The question is, can you get another right handed D easier than another Michkov?
@@davidrobinson4119 surprisingly enough looking around the NHL the answer is no. It seems genuinely hard to get a genuine good shutdown right defenseman. While getting another Michkov well we just got Demidov so we don't exactly need him. It's pretty clear that personality is an extremely important factor for Montreal and with how good their Russian connection is thanks to Bobrov if they didn't pick Michkov it just means that the personality (or something else about his game) did not fit the interest of Montreal. There's really no more reason to complain about that decision now that they picked Demidov. Reinbacher will be an amazing player, even if he isn't more impactful then Michkov it doesn't necessarily mean it was the wrong decision.
What a joke! french media complaining about quebec players not being picked by the habs lol Once again showing how they only care about language and not about winning a cup.
They drafted two shitty unranked players in the 5th round over Justin Poirier. That's worth criticism. Switch teams, please.
@@ratoftoska7497 oh yeah here comes the pro scouts lol if you guys want to complain about their choices fine. But don't make this shit about language . Switch teams please! lol
@@djtommy1864 People like you and Tony are the only ones making it about language. Justin Poirier slipped because he's small like Caufield and St-Louis, but he was a highly regarded prospect before the draft. Carolina is laughing right now that they only had to use a 160 to get him. We drafted an over-ager from the WHL who has less points than Poirier has goals, because the over-ager is tall. Florian Xhekaj was drafted with a 4th as an over-ager with 25 points last year, but suddenly late picks are so valuable and we can't "waste one" on a guy with skills from our own backyard because he's not just a big meathead.
If you can get a steal like Joshua Roy in the 5th round, you take him, even if he has red flags. That's what we did, and look at how it turned out.
You listen to Tony cry about the evil francophone media bullying the poor anglophones, and you think that it's reality. The reality is that some journalists asked why they didn't draft a Q player this year, and that the Habs brass answered. Who cares? That's a question they will always get because it's the local league. They're fishing for information as their job demands. They can get insight on why the Q didn't do well, for example. It's funny how the ones making it about language are always people like you.
@@djtommy1864 The only ones making it a language issue are you guys. There was top end talent from the Q that dropped because he's short like St-Louis and Caufield, and we passed on him. We passed on BPA local talent from our backyard for some random guys, one being an over-ager. Hage speaks French, and I wouldn't want the CH to have picked him based on that fact. He's also a Habs fan, and I wouldn't want the CH to have picked him based on that fact. Those are fun extras.
@@ratoftoska7497 if you say so. I wasn't the one complaining about the habs choices of not picking a french player . If those idiot media really cared about putting together the best team to give the habs the best chance at winning a cup . They wouldn't be hiring coaches and gm's based on language . another fun fact for you lol
demidov is more a playmaker, he is more flashy and high pace than michkov. michkov is just elite elite offensively, better scorer. both are great but michkov could be generational , demidov will be much more flashy than people ythinks aka Zegras
Zegras look more to Mitchkov imo
From everything I've read & seen, it seems to me that Demidov is the more complete player & Michkov is more like Zegras.
I don't think either will be considered "generational." To me, very few players in NHL history meet that very lofty standard of greatness. IMO, the only active players who meet it are Crosby, Ovechkin & McDavid.
Zegras is a 60 pts player.
Demidov could be 70-100 so much higher ceiling
Aatos could be similar to Armia
He’s not 6’4
@@michaelferaco7746 bottom 6 with scoring touch, could be a center man, was playing with hemming as a C. He isnt armia Clone but similar style, good hands 2 way player
@@michaelferaco7746 have you watched any TPS games this year? doubt it
@@michaelferaco7746 watched him on TPS mens league and u20 league......
Now go get Zegras and put him with Caufield and Dach.
Snake is allowed to be wrong. He just used that chip.
Steal of the draft? Come on. Montreal on some other stuff. He was a top 5 pick. Drinking that Kool aid.
The question was way over your head buddy. It was a steal considering 3 other team pass on him. Not that hard to understand....🙄
@thai2go I did understand. You're just triggered by my comment. It's OK 👍. Stay in your feelings.
Don't like politic in hockey (?) - Me either, and yet when we take a look at all the rosters of all 24 Montreal cup winning teams, and we look at the last 30+ years without winning the cup. It's easy to see what is missing on this team. What is wrong with QMJHL (?) - You are a kid living in Quebec, watching your favorite players playing on your favorite hockey team, you go to approach them for an autograph, to find out you can't converse or talk to them because of language barrier. How does this motivate kids hockey world in Quebec, who do they look up to become that future dream player to play for their favorite team, if they know they will not be drafted by that team. Where in this Province do kids find motivation in hockey. Pardon my French, these kids are handicapped in their very own Province
There are not many good Quebec born players in the NHL because of a language handicap? I don’t know if I’m completely understanding your comment but this seems ridiculous.
@@tonyteti2060 You are absolutely right, you don't completely understand. You are speaking of the end result of today's Quebec young hockey players, I am speaking of the leading cause to that very end result. "There is a reason why there are not many good Quebec born players" why are the kids' motivation gone (?) Tu comprends-tu?
@@steveray7770 or maybe its because Quebec has become a complete joke and fails at everything they do.
Quebec players are shitty nowadays, time to face facts.
C’est temporaire. Le covid a eu un impacte à moyen terme sur le développement des joueurs québécois. Ça devrait se replacer.
@@Globox67 Let's all hope that is the reason. We should all keep in mind it is a scouts job to pick best player available based on the teams needs. So if we want more Québec players on the HABS it starts with player development.
Isn't this the guy who said the WHL is watered down league??? This guy should not be allowed to have an opinion on prospects. Bro doesn't even know what good league is let alone to being able judge players. Stick to creaming about all the amazing French boys…
You could cheer for any team in the league, but you chose to cheer for the francophone team and cry about it. Tony barely has two braincells to rub together and can't comprehend that criticizing using two fifth round picks on random unranked players over Justin Poirier is valid. You guys keep crying about "who cares, pick the best player available," but when we can draft a 51 goal scoring 17 year old with 27 pts in 17 playoff games, and we chose two unranked dudes before him, you change your tune quite quickly. Just do yourself a favour and switch teams.
@@ratoftoska7497 who says i cheer for this bum hockey team? I watch the videos because they talk about prospects you bum… and why would cheering for a French team have to do inaccurately evaluating a league? There have been scouts that said if there was a 5’10 Quebec born player and 5’10 Saskatchewan born kid. The Saskatchewan kid would get drafted over the French boy. Because for one the whl had similar play style to the NHL. Two the WHL is a lot more physical and three the Saskatchewan kid has heart. 🤡
@@ratoftoska7497 and nobody wants a 5’8 French kid the QMJHL is god awful and this garbage franchise has wasted 100 of picks on a lot of useless players from Quebec which is why the Habs haven’t one shit since 93. You can’t just waste a pick for political reasons. To think a kid scoring X amount of points in a crappy junior league that is rated lower than the MHL is better than X kid in a better league. This isn’t your fantasy hockey team lil bro you don’t just draft the guy with the highest stats. You pick the best available in the top ten 99% of the time. I love how all the English fans are just loving the Habs draft and all the French fans are just crying over the lack of Quebec players being drafted lol. God I miss the days when the habs forced Quebec born players in their lineup like Desharnais and Briere lol those were the days the top 6 just riddled with 5’5 French boys that couldn’t hit or fight. But lucky they had a good Western boy in net to keep the franchise relevant.
@@Whatdoingdog44 " I love how all the English fans are just loving the Habs draft and all the French fans are just crying over the lack of Quebec players being drafted lol"
Where? Everyone is happy with the draft. This is all in your head. That doesn't mean that no one can criticize management for not taking a potential 5th round steal.
"and nobody wants a 5’8 French kid the QMJHL is god awful and this garbage franchise has wasted 100 of picks on a lot of useless players from Quebec which is why the Habs haven’t one shit since 93. You can’t just waste a pick for political reasons."
1) The Q isn't that far from the rest of the CHL. If it were really that bad we wouldn't win memorial cups. Plus, how good the Q is has little bearing on how good a player from the Q can be. See: MacKinnon, Laf for recent examples. The MHL isn't a good league, but Demidov is a top end talent, so who cares that the MHL isn't that good? Can you stay consistent?
2) Where are all these 100s of useless Quebec players clogging our franchise? I'll wait for long because they don't exist. Instead, we got nice picks under the previous direction like: Tinordi, Scherback, McCarron, Kotkaniemi... Wow. Omg they picked Joshua Roy and RHP with 5th and 7th round picks??? GODDAMN POLITICS!!!
"This isn’t your fantasy hockey team lil bro you don’t just draft the guy with the highest stats. You pick the best available in the top ten 99% of the time."
Who is talking about the top ten? Can you read? I said we passed over a guy who was BPA with two FIFTH round picks. You think that people are complaining about Demidov and Hage? You're lost. We did, in fact, pass over a guy ranked as a third rounder due to his size twice in the fifth round. That's all. You think that anyone was crying for the Habs to draft a random Q player with our high picks? Stop day drinking or whatever else you're taking while writing these comments.
"God I miss the days when the habs forced Quebec born players in their lineup like Desharnais and Briere lol those were the days the top 6 just riddled with 5’5 French boys that couldn’t hit or fight. But lucky they had a good Western boy in net to keep the franchise relevant."
Ok, switch teams. No one is forcing you to cheer for this team. If a few Quebec born players on the team makes you this angry because you're a xenophobe, find another team. Support your local team or go cheer for nice western boys idgaf. You chose to support the Habs. Why? Leave lmao. You obviously hate Francophones (we aren't French, so stop saying French) so go cheer for some nice Anglo boys from out West. Go cheer for the Oilers.
@@ratoftoska7497 First off, you know nothing about the junior leagues, lol. The MHL is rated as a better league than the QMJHL. Do you know they have actual data to track the competition level in each league? The Q is much lower in terms of competition than the OHL and WHL as well check the data yourself and stop just blinding believing that shit league is good. The MHL has even gotten better since Russians were banned from the CHL import draft.
And Second just stop with the Memorial cup bs it’s such a tired excuse for the lack of talent in the Q yes they have won a decent amount of cups but the OHL and WHL consistently get talent stripped from them especially the good teams because they produce top 3 top 5 top ten 10 talent on a regular basis. It’s easy to win when not single player is stripped from your team. Just look at benson he was suppose to be sent back to junior and his team was going for another memorial cup run but buffalo kept the kid and his junior team traded Geekie and Savioe. Not sure why they did they were one of the best teams in the league but not as good as other teams but they got unlucky benson would have put them over the top. that doesn’t happen in the Q other than Laf which Q player made the NHL at 18? You have to go all the way back to Nathan McKinnon.
And I don’t hate Francophones; but I believe you guys can’t produce top-quality hockey players to save your life… when Quebec has the same amount of First-round draft picks as the province of Saskatchewan, there is a massive issue in terms of development just look at the population difference in those two provinces it’s sad actually lol. And also You can’t pinpoint two draft picks a decade apart and say it’s a good league, especially when one of the kids isn’t even French, nor did he develop in the Quebec minor hockey league system. Plus, Laf is garbage for a 1st overall pick. He was regarded as a generational talent, and since then, people have stayed away from the Q. If a third liner is a generational in Quebec, I wonder what a regular pick is, maybe 1st line in the Swiss league lol.
and when the Habs try to stay away from one of the weakest Junior leagues politics starts to get played. Just like the Leblanc pick there was no need to pick that kid in the first round also the wonderful Beaulieu pick, then you have the garbage Fucale pick (never should of even taken this kid in the second round when Price was in his prime joke of a pick) and RHP was played on the first line even though he was dog shit for you guys because you need to have a French star…Traded a stud dman in Sergachev for another attempt at a French star are you noticing a pattern of political bull shit in your shitty franchise?. And do you also see a pattern with those 4 picks? Two euros and two Americans. They have a much better hit rate when they draft Western canadian kids. This franchise ruined the career of the best goalie this generation saw, because the team tried to play politics and plugged his team with low level players from Quebec and never tried to field the best team. It’s a shame you don’t base your team off of where players are born you base them off of they’re good hockey players. I hope one day the Habs can win a cup with not a single Quebecois on the roster and with the development in QUEBEC there might not be a single French boy in the league🤣🤣🤣 and I do cheer for Edmonton lots of quality Ontario and Western boys on that squad big and tough which is exactly how hockey players should be and guess what they’re a contender each year. I wish they would draft dmen in the first round instead of Euros but whatever.
Not surprised Snake thinks you can’t improve hockey sense. He hasn’t improved his regular sense since he was 11.
It’s a show man grab your popcorn he’s hilarious and entertaining
Shocker the Snake doesn’t like a player he hadn’t scouted
Out of all of the guests, Tony has. The Snake is my least favorite. Sorry
No need to show all of these videos...we have all seen them and it comes off as a lazy filler. This is also an English podcast so why show french clips???
I can't stand the snake. I skip every episode that he is involved with
Everytime you have this guy ....he makes me want to turn off your show......grant is brilliant.....this guy is not anymore educated than me and my habs friends.....please....no more of this guy
Stop being jealous
Grant is bland, he has good info and insight though, good connections. Snake brings some character whether his opinions are a little more wild or not
@@thartley16 Nah Grant's got a lowkey great sense of humor, he's simply not as blunt as Snake.
Ou SERPENT 🐍
@@thartley16 This...exactly! Some people are just jealous I guess...he has a tribune and others doesn't...
I think snake is right about koivu but i really hope tony is right and i also believe in pedigree