Why Patriots Became Siege - Investigating Rainbow 6: Patriots

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    Ubisoft Montreal footage source: • Gameinformer: Rainbow ...
    We look back at the troubled development of Rainbow Six Patriots, as we look forward to the upcoming Operation Outbreak expansion.
    In December of 2015, Ubisoft released Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege. The eleventh entry in the first-person shooter series about counter-terrorist unit Rainbow, Siege bucked tradition. Where past Rainbow Six titles featured both single-player and multiplayer offerings in which players battled opposing forces across sprawling environments, Siege focused exclusively on multiplayer content in which teams of players worked together to attack or defend small, yet highly destructible arenas.
    While Siege suffered a rough launch, marred by game-breaking bugs, server issues, and a lack of content, Ubisoft worked candidly with the game’s community to improve it following its release, and it has since grown into one of the most popular competitive shooters on the market. But while Siege’s success is familiar to many, less known are the murky circumstances in which the title first emerged. That before Ubisoft set out to redefine the Rainbow Six series as a premier multiplayer-only experience, the series was gearing up to deliver what might have been the most evocative and contemporary single-player narrative ever featured in a Ubisoft game. A dramatic tale that would have seen Team Rainbow fighting for the soul of America as they both descended into madness.
    This is the story of Tom Clancy’s Rainbow 6: Patriots.
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  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher Před 6 lety +1350

    I was actually kinda excited for Patriots to be honest

    • @NarpytheCrimeDog
      @NarpytheCrimeDog Před 5 lety +48

      Same here. My God, it sounded amazing.

    • @manuelcjr52
      @manuelcjr52 Před 5 lety +16

      Me too bro...
      me too

    • @k1ngk4gl3
      @k1ngk4gl3 Před 5 lety +20

      Only time I wanted to play a Rainbow 6 game

    • @trentmorrison6074
      @trentmorrison6074 Před 5 lety +33

      I wluld actually be much happier with patriots instead of seige.

    • @CatholicBuddha
      @CatholicBuddha Před 5 lety +9

      I still have the game informed magazine for it

  • @BlackAngus69
    @BlackAngus69 Před 6 lety +892

    Patriots would have been a real game changer in terms of fps stories. Such a shame.

    • @YTDSoM
      @YTDSoM Před 5 lety +58

      They ultimately decided a multiplayer game with microtransactions would produce better profit in the long run...and this decision has been proven right, the game is going to the fourth season, after all.

    • @omnitravis
      @omnitravis Před 4 lety +6

      if its just the story, there are other games with similar stories, gov vs freedom fighter types.

    • @greysnake2903
      @greysnake2903 Před 3 lety +2

      @Johnbickle That aged so poorly.

    • @AmelpsXett
      @AmelpsXett Před rokem +3

      No, it's the same edgy drama that ponders over the same stupid questions.

    • @Crazy09starkillor
      @Crazy09starkillor Před rokem

      @@AmelpsXett gobble that corpo cock Gluc Gluc Gluc

  • @lee-royyesss5093
    @lee-royyesss5093 Před 6 lety +1264

    I would gladly pay full price for patriots right now...

    • @SuperMarioDrumming
      @SuperMarioDrumming Před 6 lety +17

      Lee-Roy Yesss the premise sounds a LOT like far cry 5...

    • @skrungusVEVO
      @skrungusVEVO Před 6 lety +19

      nic jones that was not the actual gameplay footage you brainless fuck

    • @lee-royyesss5093
      @lee-royyesss5093 Před 6 lety +6

      nic jones... Just go away nic

    • @marccopolo8
      @marccopolo8 Před 6 lety +4

      then buy the divisions,its clearly what it turned into

    • @sikufox
      @sikufox Před 6 lety +6

      Lee-Roy Yesss the way they do free timed events like "Outbreak" they should go the same route with patriots and make it into a short co-op campaign so they can atleast use the story they already wrote

  • @briansinger5258
    @briansinger5258 Před 6 lety +1222

    I’m so mad we lost this game.

    • @deltaforce2780
      @deltaforce2780 Před 6 lety +63

      I know same. they should relase the full story transcript at least so we know what would have happened

    • @dragosh3073
      @dragosh3073 Před 6 lety +9

      its lame

    • @devintariel3769
      @devintariel3769 Před 6 lety +21

      Climate is almost right for it to be released

    • @tek1645
      @tek1645 Před 6 lety +35

      I'm so glad we lost this game and got rainbow six siege.

    • @InstinctiveFirearmReviews
      @InstinctiveFirearmReviews Před 6 lety +49

      Looks like politics got the better of Ubisoft

  • @deltaforce2780
    @deltaforce2780 Před 6 lety +428

    God damn it, I just want a tactical shooter singleplayer story game with a thought provoking plot, it doesn't need to be massive open world, have multiplayer, have millions of major choices I just want something I can enjoy for the ride like spec ops the line again but first person

    • @Lawlaliet
      @Lawlaliet Před 6 lety +9

      Yeah, and guess what Spec Ops the line sold like shit and it's so called story pretty much loses impact and fizzles out after the 1st go, so it would have been the same for Patriots.

    • @MrYeahyuhhh
      @MrYeahyuhhh Před 5 lety +36

      @@Lawlaliet the so called story? this might be 7 months old but damn thats stupid. just because the game doesnt have the same impact it did the first playthrough, like with any fucking game imaginable, it somehow isnt good? holy shit you just suck 😂

    • @mcied1
      @mcied1 Před 5 lety +8

      @@MrYeahyuhhh I didn't give that game the time of day upon release, then about 8 months ago went back and played it and beat it in one sitting. I absolute LOVED the story. I thought it was great!

    • @BlueLightningSky
      @BlueLightningSky Před 5 lety

      It wasn't going to be Patriots. A David Cage game in disguise.

    • @reubenyesplease5374
      @reubenyesplease5374 Před 4 lety

      Titanfall 2

  • @sikufox
    @sikufox Před 6 lety +48

    Back then-"you cant shoot your own country men"
    Now-"are you ready to shoot your fellow country men in Far Cry 5?!"

  • @dimagreen7312
    @dimagreen7312 Před 3 lety +180

    The moment the plot of Patriots was mentioned you knew it was never gonna be made. Hits the nail too hard on the head and that cannot be allowed by politicians or speacial interest groups.

    • @SuperRONDALE
      @SuperRONDALE Před rokem +6

      They were 4 years too early

    • @AmelpsXett
      @AmelpsXett Před rokem +10

      Meanwhile deus ex and mgs2 existed for years🤡
      The reality is that patriots was scrapped due to it being shit that took too much money

    • @dirckthedork-knight1201
      @dirckthedork-knight1201 Před rokem +7

      ​​@@AmelpsXett And how many of them actually make you see the villains as someone similar to you without painting them as a pure evil and you as the pure good huh?

    • @AmelpsXett
      @AmelpsXett Před rokem +1

      @@dirckthedork-knight1201 not relevant to the question. Also both of the games i mentioned

    • @KaoticReach1999
      @KaoticReach1999 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@SuperRONDALE Not even close to being the same

  • @johnh.watson5087
    @johnh.watson5087 Před 6 lety +222

    What a bummer. This is exactly the kind of singleplayer experience I'm looking for atm

  • @SourRobo8364
    @SourRobo8364 Před 6 lety +840

    I was so dissapointed when I found out Siege didn't have a single player campaign.

    • @deltaforce2780
      @deltaforce2780 Před 6 lety +15

      yeah I refunded the game when I found that out, if outbreak is any good as a story mode I might buy again tho

    • @alphads2000
      @alphads2000 Před 6 lety +14

      Outbreak is a left 4 dead generic event game mode and its not permanent

    • @darkknightgamer123
      @darkknightgamer123 Před 6 lety +68

      Gordon Shumway Siege to me is proof that a game doesn’t require a single player campaign to be good. Disliking it because of a lack of a campaign is fine, but I would much rather developers make the games they want to make without being forced to tack on a terrible story mode, as is the case with most FPS games nowadays.

    • @jefftaylor8321
      @jefftaylor8321 Před 6 lety +73

      darkknightgamer123 it's a Tom Clancy game it's supposed to have a story.

    • @darkknightgamer123
      @darkknightgamer123 Před 6 lety +28

      Jeff Taylor As stated, the company and the developers can choose to make whatever they want and evolve the franchise. I think restricting all games to just one thing is restricting and can’t allow the industry to evolve. Siege proved that it is a viable option, but neither option is objectively better.

  • @NoExplosionsMcgee
    @NoExplosionsMcgee Před 6 lety +483

    Rainbow 6: La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo
    A Hideo Clancy Game

  • @Afterthought_
    @Afterthought_ Před 6 lety +102

    I feel like it would be fairly evident that elements from this game went on to heavily influence the Division.

  • @KevinT1149
    @KevinT1149 Před 6 lety +231

    Seems that since Tom Clancy's passing (rip) the Tom Clancy games in general have taken a huge turn. I mean aliens now in a Rainbow Six game? Predator in Ghost Recon... it's awful. Tom Clancy games always had a sense of realism which associated in the name Tom Clancy name. I would always prefer a Single RB6 game over an only online game.

    • @NostalgicRemedy
      @NostalgicRemedy Před 6 lety +11

      good thing your opinion is irrelevant

    • @Lawlaliet
      @Lawlaliet Před 6 lety +31

      Pfft...Realism? Fuckin' Tom Clancy, sir please tell me what you are smocking and in what quantities. 'Cause I want some of that good shit. Also, the predator thing in Ghost Recon is just to celebrate the movies.

    • @RADIOACTIVEBUNY
      @RADIOACTIVEBUNY Před 5 lety +28

      Well those were novelty things, you know? For shits and gigs. They were not done seriously.
      But you are right in that the serious efforts are seeing a marked departing from what Clancy intended.

    • @RazgrizWing
      @RazgrizWing Před 5 lety +18

      Even The Division. Which was marketed as being serious. The only serious thing in the game was from the collectibles and marketing. The rest of the diaologue in the division had really cringe attempts at humor and jokes. It almost seemed as if they intended to do a singleplayer or co-op survival experience at first but then tacked on all the online PVP features and everything with it.

    • @norseman9114
      @norseman9114 Před 5 lety +9

      Splinter Cell definitely was a very realistic series. Yes.

  • @MageBlackstone
    @MageBlackstone Před 6 lety +323

    Rainbow 6: Patriots looked a bit like first and second G.R.A.W. games. Textures, draw distance, combat...

    • @mercuraz
      @mercuraz Před 6 lety +37

      It was built for the PS3 and X360, hence why it looked similar.

    • @DTS214
      @DTS214 Před 6 lety +8

      For real, it had a bunch of the previous games' mechanics and features and now so does Siege. It could've been good but who knows why the hell they decided to use AC's engine instead of Frostbite or their own. Oh well Siege is great and they put a lot of work into it and I'm betting Rainbow 6 and Tom Clancy games in general will only get better with its recent releases.

    • @MarkSamurai5
      @MarkSamurai5 Před 6 lety +3

      +MageBlackstone and a little bit of splinter cell.

    • @MerlautZone
      @MerlautZone Před 6 lety +11

      Rosales214fly Well Siege is also powered by the Assassin's Creed engine. Also, there's no way Ubisoft could've used Frostbite. It's DICE's engine who are owned by EA.

    • @ChapaczNorek
      @ChapaczNorek Před 6 lety +11

      It looks exactly like The Division, animations - like closing car doors, running, taking cover etc, Manhattan, character abilities like being able to see enemies through objects. I wouldn't be surprised if they used some of the assets for The Division.

  • @Elong_Musket
    @Elong_Musket Před 6 lety +364

    Maybe they could have made up for their mistake with Siege by adding a GOOD single player campaign, I'm so over everyone turning games into MLG titles only focusing on multiplayer...

    • @johnwerner6445
      @johnwerner6445 Před 6 lety +25

      And yet they had the nerve to charge full price

    • @c_dubz9401
      @c_dubz9401 Před 6 lety +35

      You have to admit though, Siege has a damn good multiplayer.

    • @MerlautZone
      @MerlautZone Před 6 lety +2

      Agreed

    • @johnwerner6445
      @johnwerner6445 Před 6 lety +42

      Hail Hortler Multiplayer only games should never be sold at full price. Ever.

    • @SquibbeyJenkins
      @SquibbeyJenkins Před 6 lety +3

      Some people are tired of scripted and linear stroy games

  • @tjentertainmentstudio
    @tjentertainmentstudio Před 3 lety +27

    How relatable the story of the campaign is to our society now 😪

  • @Spazattitude
    @Spazattitude Před 4 lety +4

    Apparently Patriots is still cannon in the universe. In a dlc of ghost recon wildnands one of the characters mentions operation Patriots to cav and she replies that it's very classified and calls you some flavorful things in response.

  • @Echelon111999
    @Echelon111999 Před 2 lety +8

    Rewatching this video for the 2nd time because I'm in the Rainbow Six mood again... One thing I want to note is that the difference between the current and the old team assigned to the Rainbow Six franchise is like milk and fire in comparison. Even if the today's ubisoft tried their best they would never be able to come close to what Vegas 2 or older RS games were.

  • @DerptekofGoochland
    @DerptekofGoochland Před 6 lety +425

    If Siege just dropped the Rainbow Six name and was just Siege, I'd be a lot happier.

    • @PS-ql7mz
      @PS-ql7mz Před 5 lety +50

      You are a joke if you let the name of a game make you unhappy. If it bothers you so much just don't look at the box snowflake.

    • @Mikey-zj8bn
      @Mikey-zj8bn Před 5 lety +2

      Why siege is bassically all i ever played in the firstvr6 games that mansion level

    • @FlowerKnight2
      @FlowerKnight2 Před 5 lety +46

      Same, it should have been it's own IP.
      Now that it's done so well due to the simple minded masses of younger gamers, we'll probably NEVER see a true to form Rainbow Six again.
      Siege is such a pathetic excuse for a Rainbow Six game.

    • @PS-ql7mz
      @PS-ql7mz Před 5 lety +21

      Simple minded? I own every R6 game, have you played an older one recently? You are just blindly fanboying if you actually think that Siege is more "simple minded" than the old r6 games. Its laughable comparing older tactical single player shooters to a game where the tactics come from dealing with real humans rather than ancient awful AI. The golden age of simple games for the young masses was in the past, when the best Nintendo party games came out.

    • @FlowerKnight2
      @FlowerKnight2 Před 5 lety +14

      Yeah that's great except no one actually plays Siege tactically, and realistically, and to say that they do you'd be full of shit.
      I can admit that the game has some strategy involved, and it does take skill to play it, but to call it a tactical shooter, is also laughable.

  • @blackhand1193
    @blackhand1193 Před 6 lety +229

    Cancellation of this was like death sentence of R6 if it were not for Siege.
    *But Siege was not the game for Single-Player like myself.*
    Let me be honest. *I'm very afraid that we can't see any more good Single-based Tactical Squad games like old R6 games or S.W.A.T 4. That would be like death of another good game genre•franchise like C&C.*

    • @schibleh531
      @schibleh531 Před 6 lety +31

      Check out "Ready or Not" this game is supposed to be the spiritual successor to Swat 4. It looks brutal as hell from the trailer.

    • @blackhand1193
      @blackhand1193 Před 6 lety +10

      Just've checked trailer. It's promising... FOR NOW.
      I only want it to be not become another *TAKEDOWN:RED SABER.*

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage Před 6 lety +11

      But Patriots wasn't go to be anything like the old Rainbow games.

    • @blackhand1193
      @blackhand1193 Před 6 lety +6

      *OLD,* means EVERY Rainbow Six INCLUDING Vegas.
      And it's different from S.W.A.T, yes it is.
      But Siege is WAY MORE different from old R6, in my opinion.

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage Před 6 lety +6

      Nod Fanatic I'd actually argue that Siege's gameplay is far more in line with first Rainbow games, in that it usually rewards taking your time and thinking about how you approach a situation. Vegas and Vegas 2 were a significant departure from the gameplay formula of the games that preceded it, and it was worse for it.

  • @schibleh531
    @schibleh531 Před 6 lety +137

    From a lore perspective, I think you can write siege as being just a one big training course for the operators of Rainbow (since after that gas scenario ending cutscene, rainbow 6 became active again). The next Rainbow is probably going to be story driven and build on Siege's operators and the yellow gas attack. I wouldn't be surprised if the story was somehow similar to what patriots was.

    • @peaacorn_9635
      @peaacorn_9635 Před 6 lety +38

      Hamza Shukri I think ubi is gunna cheese siege until it fully dies and then they will make a story game with nothing similar to patriots and completely forget about siege. It'll just be another omigawd terrorist killing time plot

    • @schibleh531
      @schibleh531 Před 6 lety +11

      I don't think the game will die, it keeps getting updated with new operators and maps not to mention changes to the gadgets and such. The game never gets stale and it always feel fresh for me. Let's just hope that Ubi doesn't pull a EA on us and actually create the next rainbow. People are not gonna drop siege if they release a single player focused game, hell it makes you want to play siege more if the next one was a pure story driven single player with 0 multiplayer, and siege got a huge new expansion pack to go with the new story.
      This way they can keep on building on siege and turn it into their cash cow with major expansions and updates (similar to WOW) and they can experiment as they want with the other rainbows.
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      Buuuuuuuut it's Ubi soft so I won't hope for anything tbh :P

    • @QuietFromMetalGearSolid
      @QuietFromMetalGearSolid Před 6 lety +5

      It was good when Rainbow 6's story developed throughout the missions, it wasn't a rail shooter with scripted scenes pretending to be a hollywood movie, it was an operator game,you went there for the mission, and got out when finished, no questions asked.

    • @alexhohl8530
      @alexhohl8530 Před 6 lety +5

      Foxtrot do you play at bronze level? You can’t win high platinum and diamond match’s by lone wolfing

    • @XavierPWNED
      @XavierPWNED Před 6 lety +3

      Foxtrot it's not a cash cow Lmao free dlc, only cosmetic buys. In came alpha packs earned. You're dumb af

  • @smithdennard4547
    @smithdennard4547 Před 6 lety +105

    I will always want to play this game that will never be....

  • @Assassin0Ninja
    @Assassin0Ninja Před 6 lety +182

    Sure they didn't want a single player experience... They just want a gaming experience as a service

    • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
      @tHeWasTeDYouTh Před 6 lety +11

      fucking a and all the retards fell for it

    • @BalthazarB2
      @BalthazarB2 Před 5 lety

      @@AbcIHateYou3 The time it takes to unlock operators is close to irellevant (especially if you have been playing the game since the start) since as a new player you don't need every opetator avaliable. Yes, it's a grind, 30 hours per operator at the worst, but the most powerful operators in the game are still the base game ones.

    • @BalthazarB2
      @BalthazarB2 Před 5 lety

      @@AbcIHateYou3 The standard edition is 20$. The starter is 15$. Both editions were incredibly cheap during the last sale.
      You don't really ever need any of the DLC ops beside Echo or Hibana, as they give intel and hard breaching. Some of the worst operators are DLC operators. It usually takes me a week or two to gain enough renown for one operator.

    • @BalthazarB2
      @BalthazarB2 Před 5 lety

      @@AbcIHateYou3 Huh, it is $40. I am just used to seeing it on sale all the time. Still, this game has a lot of content and more to come.
      I never said they aren't important, and I love them for it, as they all bring something new to the game, which keeps the game fresh and gives me something to spend my renown on. I have them all, so I just save up for next season. Yet, I only play a few on a steady basis. You don't need every operator in the game, and by the time you get comfortable with one, you'll have enough to buy the next.
      My only concern is how daunting the learning curve can be for new players.
      Siege has a pretty fair microtransaction system if you compare it to many other games.

    • @BalthazarB2
      @BalthazarB2 Před 5 lety

      @@AbcIHateYou3 A friend of mine had bought the starter edition and clocked in about 400 hours so far, never regretting his purchase.
      If some of my statements seem incoherent, it is because it's midnight here.
      I still dont think the grind for operators is that bad, and is an acceptable alternative to them being strictly paid DLC. A smart move was that everyone gets to play on new maps regardless if they pay or not.
      I see what your issue is here, and it has it's points, but Siege is a decent example of how to do AAA multiplayer games mostly right.

  • @killroy814
    @killroy814 Před 6 lety +331

    And then they threw hicks in and called it Far Cry 5.

    • @matthewdurkin9543
      @matthewdurkin9543 Před 6 lety +41

      I don't really see the connection other than the US setting. Far Cry 5 is about a cult, not a political group.

    • @lastone032085
      @lastone032085 Před 6 lety +34

      Domestic terrorists.

    • @diplomatG
      @diplomatG Před 6 lety +3

      Matthew Durkin cult of Trumpers

    • @diplomatG
      @diplomatG Před 6 lety +3

      LibertyPrime1982 bitter much? Your boy Trump will be in jail soon

    • @agentxiiihh7227
      @agentxiiihh7227 Před 6 lety +5

      Well it was right wing “patriots” who were bitching about this game.

  • @gibletti
    @gibletti Před 6 lety +400

    To be honest, I would’ve preferred Patriots to Siege.

  • @logansunny4
    @logansunny4 Před 6 lety +20

    This channel has quickly become one of my favorites... With some damn good information, editing, and an awesome narrator that sounds kinda like the guy from discover channels "how it's made" (except this guy doesn't make me wanna kill myself out of boredom)

  • @gjD4NT3
    @gjD4NT3 Před 6 lety +229

    This could have been one of the most awesome and original fps of the last years......what a shame! R6 siege is a great game but that story....that campaign could kick everyone's ass!

    • @Eonymia
      @Eonymia Před 6 lety +16

      How would it have been original? It looked like it would have been more of R6 vegas type of gameplay that we'd already seen multiple times before. What originality?

    • @Eonymia
      @Eonymia Před 6 lety

      I'm not saying it wouldn't have been good, but that's not what I asked.

    • @gjD4NT3
      @gjD4NT3 Před 6 lety +10

      Eonymia if you talk about originality and put R6 Siege on your plate than you are doing it wrong my friend......
      Destructible environment? Battlefield.
      Fps mechanics? Just like COD but slightly improved.
      Terrorist? Bombs? Hostage? Counter Strike.
      Entering in the house like a badass jumping from the roof, down the wall and inside the room? The other Tom Clancy' Rainbow Six videogames.
      The only 'original' thing is that every operator has his own abilities.
      Siege is a great game don't misunderstand me (it's the ONLY current fps I also like to watch), but if you talk about originality this is the wrong game my friend.
      The only game that actually was an improvement on the shooter scenario was Titanfall.......which is going to get raped as EA now owns Respawn :/
      Oh, and btw when I was talking about originality I was referring mainly to the story/plot.
      P.s.: also the gameplay of patriots looked a little more original than the previous ones. And those were just the early gameplay footage.
      R6 Siege also sucked dicks at the beginning.
      Now imagine if a game like patriot had the same treatment with the same great support/improvements ;)

    • @Eonymia
      @Eonymia Před 6 lety

      Read my comments again. Try to find the word Siege in there. The early gameplay for patriots didn't show anything that hadn't been seen in the series before, so there goes the gameplay part anyway. As far as story goes, I'll give you that, it was an interesting scenario they laid out, but does switching out international terrorists for domestic ones make for "one of the most awesome and original fps of the last years"? I don't think so. I was really looking forward to Patriots, but in hindsight I'm worried it would have been basically R6V3. Nothing wrong with that, but it would have gotten stale pretty fast. Siege managed to breathe new life to the franchise by abandoning most of the stuff prepped for patriots and became extremely succesful, and I doubt a story-driven single player fps would have had the same effect if it didn't take huge notes from as far back as the first 3 Rainbow6 games.

    • @Lemonpinesol
      @Lemonpinesol Před 6 lety +3

      +gjD4NT3 there are no truly new ideas anymore, they've all been thought up. Using old things in new combination or a new way can still be an 'original' concept. The patriot's story line can be torn apart in the same way, Spec ops: the line did it first so it's not original.

  • @geovanni6556
    @geovanni6556 Před 6 lety +8

    I remember getting the GameInformer issue about Patriots and being hyped about it

  • @QuietFromMetalGearSolid
    @QuietFromMetalGearSolid Před 6 lety +46

    We need a Rainbow Six like the old ones

  • @gelul12
    @gelul12 Před 6 lety +39

    Wish we get a real rainbow game again

    • @mohammadjavadmonjezi
      @mohammadjavadmonjezi Před 2 lety +3

      and Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia and Driver and Rayman and...
      Ubisoft should just being bought by a company who actually care enough about gaming and gaming industry to enough money and resources to make games that do justice to these wonderful franchises
      Ubisoft should either die with its current shape or be bought by someone else

  • @KFXG
    @KFXG Před 5 lety +20

    Patriots was one of the last games I was excited for. It still pisses me off that they cancelled it and then released Seige... Haven't played Seige and don't intend to any time soon. I can't stand multiplayer-only games.

  • @vaporwave2345
    @vaporwave2345 Před 3 lety +38

    *Esports kills another awesome franchise.*

  • @MDigitalProductions
    @MDigitalProductions Před 3 lety +2

    It's 2021 and I still have the game informer special magazine featuring R6 Patriots

  • @AjronXPL
    @AjronXPL Před 6 lety +265

    Rainbow Six: Patreons

    • @EdK-Music
      @EdK-Music Před 6 lety +11

      AjronX that be interesting. If Ubisoft set up a Patreon to fund the next game.

    • @dudleyleyy
      @dudleyleyy Před 6 lety +11

      Pay more to not receive downgrade

  • @ewanwhite4644
    @ewanwhite4644 Před 6 lety +22

    I actually hated when siege came out...

  • @raptorrise8537
    @raptorrise8537 Před 6 lety +22

    the R6 series died with the release of Lockdown and will get buried with the release of Outbreak.
    Siege is a good game and I can't wait to play the new operation but it has nothing to do with his predecessors so for me it is not a real R6 game

  • @theAWSM_1
    @theAWSM_1 Před 6 lety +26

    Love your vids. keep em coming

  • @goldimari
    @goldimari Před 4 lety +102

    Patriots:
    - antagonists with actual motives
    - social and political commentary
    - tries to tell a proper story
    Siege:
    - character classes to monetize a non f2p game and perpetuate content
    - a “competitive” game with lots of visual noise, lack of readability and a sound system that doesn’t work most the time
    - shallow characters with little development
    - is not played like a tactical shooter
    - no campaign (but have another game that has Counter terrorists fighting zombies)
    Siege is not a bad game but we lost so much to get it and no time soon will we see anything resembling a proper tactical shooter like Raven Shield from Ubisoft, apparently it is just too niche to justify making a game like that.

    • @jaxthedisintegrator8096
      @jaxthedisintegrator8096 Před 3 lety +4

      I absolutely agree with you.
      Siege is awsome, but is not a Rainbow Six game.
      A "Raven Shield" game is a MUST to save Rainbow Six.
      But I'm Hopeful that it will not stay a F2P forever !

    • @victorsoares4626
      @victorsoares4626 Před 3 lety

      @Deathtrooper204 if it fits their narratives basically yes but in end everything is political nowadays

    • @greysnake2903
      @greysnake2903 Před 3 lety

      Politics bad

    • @Journey_Awaits
      @Journey_Awaits Před 3 lety

      Now fat ladies killing some weird clowns with road spikes and blowtorches

    • @KillZoneHart1
      @KillZoneHart1 Před 3 lety

      I wouldn't mind if Siege could coexist alongside another traditional Rainbow game, but they just won't do it. They'd think it'd detract from their cash cow Siege. So basically we won't get another true Rainbow game because they'd rather keep Siege going or do a Siege 2 like Overwatch 2.

  • @senseihEnRY16
    @senseihEnRY16 Před 6 lety +151

    Watchdogs was heavily downgraded and have awful protagonist? Fine
    AC: Unity was a broken mess of a game? I let it slide
    Rayman became a freemium mobile game? Close, but i can move on.
    Patriots got cancelled? I'll never forgive Ubi for that one

    • @dragosh3073
      @dragosh3073 Před 6 lety +9

      the game is lame dude would rather have siege than this shit

    • @Jurico_Noes
      @Jurico_Noes Před 6 lety +3

      siege is really good dont regret buying it should of bought it a long time ago

    • @CoffeeLover42045
      @CoffeeLover42045 Před 6 lety +6

      Henry Rahardja watch dogs is actaully good

    • @Lawlaliet
      @Lawlaliet Před 6 lety +5

      I'm sorry, but can we quit with this wanking off "OMG PATRIOTS WOULD HAVE BEEN AMAZING!" like, story concept wise it might have been good, key word MIGHT, but if the gameplay is shit and badly made you cannot just flag the story and hope to get a free pass.

    • @CosmicLatte1
      @CosmicLatte1 Před 6 lety +14

      Kanashe But you don’t know exactly how the gameplay would have been. Game development-especially of the triple-A variety-is an incredibly iterative process. From the looks of it, the gameplay shown here wasn’t even a Beta build of the game. The narrative I would like to see stopped is that we should be thankful that we got R6: Siege instead of Patriots. Why should we be thankful for getting a game that was hot garbage upon release; a game that was very clearly (and cynically) designed to easily cash-in on a trend by hijacking an already established IP? I’m sure Siege is a great game now, if the heaps of praise that are thrown upon it are any indication thereof. But I, for one, still would have rather had a single-player focused tactical shooter and I know that I’m not alone in that.

  • @Observe411
    @Observe411 Před 5 lety +6

    "Eh, I'm tired of Rainbow fighting international terrorists in the same formula," said no one ever.

  • @GamingPCBuildercom
    @GamingPCBuildercom Před 5 lety +14

    Make Patriots as Siege's Co-Op DLC, as a "Respect" for their "Father".

  • @Nick930
    @Nick930 Před 6 lety +12

    13:72 team patriots vs team mercs (splinter cell!!!)

  • @skunkycatog
    @skunkycatog Před 6 lety +25

    Rainbow 6 siege : biggest bait and switch ever

  • @NervousNoodles
    @NervousNoodles Před 5 lety +1

    I recently discovered this channel and I absolutely love the videos. Already subscribed.
    Please keep on posting more videos!

  • @FANTAVISION
    @FANTAVISION Před 6 lety +1

    Absolutely love this channel! Keep it up the amazing work guys!

  • @crozraven
    @crozraven Před 6 lety +354

    So politics "again" ruined a game developments ...

    • @Kojiros7th
      @Kojiros7th Před 5 lety +44

      Did you watch the video? Politics challenge its existence yes but that was far from the reason it didn't come out. It was more the technical constraints at the time coupled with the instability of dev team working on the game which kept Patriots from coming out. This on top of the change in hardware they were aiming to release on (ie jump from ps3 and 360 to ps4 and xbone) killed that game. A clean slate was the most logical option at that point in time.

    • @retrorizeit4547
      @retrorizeit4547 Před 5 lety +8

      No the dumb ass 13year old community and money ruined the series :(

    • @VoiceOfTheEmperor
      @VoiceOfTheEmperor Před 5 lety +10

      Let's not forget the elite wanted less threat to their power

    • @rekkaharu2045
      @rekkaharu2045 Před 5 lety

      Sure did smh

    • @kobra6660
      @kobra6660 Před 5 lety +15

      And yet they encourage you to fight people from other countries but when it comes to domestic terrorist everyone would want the game banned even though it would've been something different and something we never would have seen before

  • @DLTA64
    @DLTA64 Před 6 lety +11

    I fucking *love* this channel.

  • @NatureBOY013
    @NatureBOY013 Před 6 lety

    SUCH A GREAT VIDEO. It was oddly beautiful and now I am officially subbed!

  • @sourcerywizard294
    @sourcerywizard294 Před 6 lety

    Awesome vid guys. I was eagerly waiting for Patriots' launch and never got answers as to why it was canned.

  • @Tapp.dergon
    @Tapp.dergon Před 3 lety +3

    Wow this hits a lot different now

  • @deacon539able
    @deacon539able Před 6 lety +3

    I remember having my first time witnessing Patriots, I was in awe, but after many years, I was sad to not see more trailers.

  • @WSB1469
    @WSB1469 Před 6 lety +1

    YES I’ve waited a long time for this.

  • @ratchet2505
    @ratchet2505 Před 6 lety

    Awesome as always, much more polished as well! :)

  • @groovetorped9554
    @groovetorped9554 Před 5 lety +5

    They had a great concept, actively worked on it to flesh it out and then boom; live services came to mind. Siege is a solid multiplayer, the only thing that ruins that game's concept is that CTUs go against CTUs when it should be CTUs vs Terrorists.

  • @garethwinstanley8843
    @garethwinstanley8843 Před 3 lety +5

    rainbow six vegas 1 and 2 was amzing i was soo looking forward to Rainbow 6: Patriots but got siege WTF

  • @SheffAdam
    @SheffAdam Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the great content!

  • @MelvoraFilms
    @MelvoraFilms Před 6 lety

    Top notch as always!

  • @Darksphere101
    @Darksphere101 Před 3 lety +5

    This has aged like fine wine.

  • @mileslemon
    @mileslemon Před 6 lety +407

    (O) KISS WIFE

    • @JAKX091
      @JAKX091 Před 6 lety +80

      Press (F) to pay respects

    • @ZombiAstral
      @ZombiAstral Před 6 lety +48

      Press X to son. (God of PG-13)

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage Před 6 lety +52

      Press (R1) to save America.

    • @animegamingnerd
      @animegamingnerd Před 6 lety +14

      David Cage would be proud of that QTE.

    • @EdK-Music
      @EdK-Music Před 6 lety +22

      Animegamingnerd Press X to “JAAAASON!”

  • @Unamedsoldier26
    @Unamedsoldier26 Před 6 lety

    So much truth about this... great video!

  • @iggyeegii9004
    @iggyeegii9004 Před 6 lety

    This channel deserves more! Seriously

  • @hanchiman
    @hanchiman Před 6 lety +12

    I miss a proper Tom Clancy singleplayer story game

    • @fireWireX4
      @fireWireX4 Před 5 lety

      i just started playing Ghost Recon: Wildlands....its very good

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE Před 4 lety

      @@fireWireX4 Well that's a rather unpopular opinion, but hey, you like it, it's fine by me

    • @m.a.k.dynasty4504
      @m.a.k.dynasty4504 Před 4 lety

      @@ArcturusOTE
      Wildlands is a very liked game.

  • @GreeneHouseProductions
    @GreeneHouseProductions Před 5 lety +4

    Oh how I miss Vegas 1 MP... Kill house, Vault, the Famas ... So many good times for me

  • @paulaburrows8660
    @paulaburrows8660 Před 6 lety

    As always another great video.

  • @RicardoGomez-xg6ys
    @RicardoGomez-xg6ys Před 5 lety +2

    "the high minded goals have been abandoned for quick profits" -Chris Farley "Almost Heroes"

  • @Advythe
    @Advythe Před 6 lety +26

    Don't worry folks, Ready or Not is coming 2018.

  • @SuspicouslyCrisp
    @SuspicouslyCrisp Před 6 lety +4

    still breaks my heart to this day

  • @TSmoove74
    @TSmoove74 Před 4 lety +2

    watching the new breakpoint mediorce crap got me thinking about this game and you did a great job on your presentation, new sub

    • @Koala1203
      @Koala1203 Před 4 lety

      Same with the wierd ass Quarantine shit

  • @Pyke64
    @Pyke64 Před 6 lety

    keep up these great vids

  • @yotsuba7573
    @yotsuba7573 Před 6 lety +7

    I sure as fuck would’ve preferred this game (that has an actual story and puts the player into the environments of the gritty tom clancy books) over siege (no story, but puts player in less gritty environments).

  • @MrSkateToBeLate
    @MrSkateToBeLate Před 6 lety

    What a great video. Very interesting thank you

  • @cas9564
    @cas9564 Před 4 lety +1

    God I hope this project still exists internally because there's still so much potential to the premise, especially with what's been going on in the world.

  • @Gruntvc
    @Gruntvc Před 6 lety +76

    I much would've preferred another great single player focused Rainbow Six game than yet another grindy always online multiplayer one. Ubisoft in general is pretty boring these days with their online focus and releasing the same tedious giant open world stuff. Great vid.

    • @pavelskrylnikov9658
      @pavelskrylnikov9658 Před 6 lety +9

      >great
      Big overstatement. Nothing in the revealed material looked particulary great, even that strange "not actual gameplay footage", the story (at least the one we have any knowledge about) offered nothing more then the usual "muh ripped from the headlines!" stuff, it might have reached Spec Ops The Line level at best. The engine, as the video explains, was a major problem for the game that used it and the team was tired of doing scripted RAMIREZ BREACH THE DOOR, bored by their own game and wanted to do something else instead (which they did). It would not have been great title, it somply couldn't have been. If you want for an analogy, think Need for speed Undercover.

    • @SquibbeyJenkins
      @SquibbeyJenkins Před 6 lety

      Pavel Skrylnikov Couldnt have said it better

    • @QuietFromMetalGearSolid
      @QuietFromMetalGearSolid Před 6 lety +1

      Genome Soldat A game with less hollywood-esque cinematic drama and more tactical operations like R6 1.
      But i guess that will never happen, AAA games are all about hollywood-like cinematic dramas. The worst outcome is us getting another Call of Duty clone disguised as Rainbow Six.

    • @xsct878
      @xsct878 Před 6 lety +2

      Conta da Familia because gunning down dudes on a bridge is "tactical".

    • @Tinfoil_Hardhat
      @Tinfoil_Hardhat Před 6 lety

      Genome Soldat Well it seems you never played siege at all because the game is much more than that. It's much more unique than other shooters.

  • @IQ2992
    @IQ2992 Před 6 lety +33

    Patriots was gonna hit too close to home.....

    • @cykablyat2003
      @cykablyat2003 Před 6 lety +2

      iq2992 ahhhh I see what you did there

    • @JM.Magico
      @JM.Magico Před 5 lety +4

      i think thats why it was cancelled for being to political

    • @CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts
      @CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts Před 5 lety +8

      God forbid they make a game showing patriots in a good light at the time the game parroted the BS narrative the government and media were pushing that essentially anyone that didn't tow the democrat party line were all terrorists and that veterans and people who favored third party candidates are the biggest terror threat the DHS secretary actually sent that memo out

    • @Utonian21
      @Utonian21 Před 5 lety +1

      A terrorist is a terrorist. I honestly couldn't care less that they were American, I would've still enjoyed taking them out.

    • @pappapinskie5883
      @pappapinskie5883 Před 5 lety +2

      Kohlton Miller One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter

  • @ECfuckingW22
    @ECfuckingW22 Před 6 lety

    Yes i was waiting to someone talk about this

  • @bullmilk4u758
    @bullmilk4u758 Před 6 lety

    That gameplay looks awesome

  • @krishm16
    @krishm16 Před 4 lety +4

    It was a genuinely missed opportunity

  • @jimmyguo9403
    @jimmyguo9403 Před 6 lety +8

    Please do Team Fortress Brotherhoods of Arm and Invasion.

  • @xSuperMicex
    @xSuperMicex Před 6 lety +1

    This was a good video. I'm a fan of R6S, but I wonder (I have seen the trailer back in the day for patriots) what R6P could have been if it did get a release. It looked and sounded very interesting in idea and gameplay. Too sad some people caused controversy...

  • @oso1165
    @oso1165 Před 6 lety

    dude ur voice is like liquid gold...subscribed

  • @codybrown4195
    @codybrown4195 Před 6 lety +3

    could you do a rise and fall of the homefront series i know there have only been 2 games but i was devistated when they canceled all
    of the multiplayer servers on console

  • @OzzyBen07
    @OzzyBen07 Před 2 lety +3

    I loved Vegas so much.
    This one still fucking stings to this very day

  • @TaliZVasTyria
    @TaliZVasTyria Před 5 lety +1

    14:47 well i'm glad ya used bandit, he's the most badass character in siege, wonder how he would be if he is a character in patriots,

  • @Evil.Industries
    @Evil.Industries Před 5 lety

    I always wondered what happened to that bridge teaser, thanks

  • @petermarshall001
    @petermarshall001 Před 2 lety +3

    This game was ahead of its time

  • @clintonholenstein9348
    @clintonholenstein9348 Před 5 lety +6

    Vegas and Vegas 2 need to be remastered.

  • @prdalien0
    @prdalien0 Před 6 lety

    Great video guys, you should investigate the original version of Splinter Cell: Conviction.
    Another cool game that never happened is Warhammer 40k Dark Millennium, would love to see an in-depth look at that.

  • @latino.raptor
    @latino.raptor Před 4 lety

    Thanks its good to know what happened as a RS single player old school fan I was excited for Patriots and when it dissapeared I search the internet for clues and could not find nothing at the time, then RS SIEGE only multiplayer, its sad for me that online games are trendy

  • @vonmehlau9284
    @vonmehlau9284 Před 6 lety +41

    How Rainbow Six lost its identity :(

    • @KazimierzRat
      @KazimierzRat Před 6 lety

      Mehlau ye

    • @x420xBlazex
      @x420xBlazex Před 6 lety +4

      It lost its identity 12 years ago when that piece of shit Vegas released and ruined the series. Patriots looked like to further the trend by stripping all tactical elements in favor of call of duty scripted set pieces and overly restrictive cinematic sequences.

    • @mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163
      @mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163 Před 5 lety

      @@x420xBlazex Well we only saw one level the introduction , which wasn't gameplay and it was said it was going to have tactical elements

  • @TheTber123
    @TheTber123 Před rokem +3

    Remember what they took from you
    R6 Patriots dying for R6 Siege is a massive disgusting moment
    R6 Siege isn't even a R6 game, it's such a massive departure from the R6 series in tone, it should have just been called Siege and the Tom Clancy label removed from it

  • @Azoth86730
    @Azoth86730 Před 6 lety +2

    I would like to see The Rise and Fall of Thief | Documentary and its legacy on modern gaming such as Dishonored, Burial at Sea Episode 2 etc.
    You should also do The Rise and Fall of Looking Glass Studios | Documentary.

  • @shadostorm8375
    @shadostorm8375 Před 6 lety

    Great documentary of the development. Siege is good but I really missed the classic storylined style of Rainbow Six series like Rogue Spear and Urban Operations. The release video for Siege where the operators are wearing more generic uniforms is cool. Would be awesome if a squad chooses a unit rather than operators from different units.

  • @Lucian_Andries
    @Lucian_Andries Před 6 lety +7

    9:48 No option to Beep Wife? :(
    13:50 Real life Tank Class! :O

  • @alexroselle
    @alexroselle Před 5 lety +3

    I would love an RB6 turn-based-tactics game! Any chance of that ever?

  • @rain8222
    @rain8222 Před 6 lety

    Love the video

  • @lostn65
    @lostn65 Před 5 lety +1

    This would have been the only Ubisoft game I'd have played since Prince of Persia 2008.
    This was right up my alley. I wish David Cage would talk to these guys and get their blessing to do his take on Patriots.

  • @larrylitmanen9877
    @larrylitmanen9877 Před 3 lety +4

    Man i love the single player shooter, there's nothing like it.

  • @koomekimathi8011
    @koomekimathi8011 Před 6 lety +3

    i play siege but i still wish for Rainbow 6: Patriots

  • @pac8827
    @pac8827 Před 6 lety

    Awesome video

  • @revistinha1
    @revistinha1 Před 5 lety +2

    I would love a "Far Cry : Patriots"
    Urban Open World set in NY
    With the story close to what R6 Patriots was

  • @kaiserrollschicken5895
    @kaiserrollschicken5895 Před 6 lety +14

    who wants command and conquer