The Most Controversial Unreleased Game - Investigating Six Days in Fallujah
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After the release of the critically-acclaimed first-person shooter Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, the video game market was perpetually flooded with war-themed games for a decade. Open-world levels and exotic weapons commonly seen in the likes of iconic shooters from the nineties - these including DOOM, Quake, and Duke Nukem 3D - were dropped in favor of linear levels and realistic weaponry. Game plots were no longer mere backdrops for the action, and a large cast of characters would be integral to what’s going on. The days of macho, muscle-bound, one-man-army protagonists was over.
While most modern military shooters were works of fiction loosely based on contemporary events, Six Days in Fallujah, a third-person tactical shooter developed by Atomic Games, was intended to be a virtual depiction of the Iraq War’s Second Battle of Fallujah of late-2004. This was a joint-offensive comprised of US, British, and Iraqi fighters. After the first battle in April, which took place after a small private security team were killed by Iraqi insurgents, it was discovered that that an estimated 3,000 members of this militia had set up their operations within the city of 250,000 people. An emergency evacuation allowed the Coalition to fight without fear of any civilians being caught in the crossfire.
Collectively, over 100 Coalition fighters were killed and 1,000 injured. According to the Red Cross, around 800 civilians also lost their lives during the conflict. Much of the city was left in ruins from the battle, leaving many men and women homeless as a result. In summary, to call it a sweeping victory for the Coalition would be painfully inaccurate.
Due to the critical backlash from the mainstream press, anti-war groups and the like, Six Days in Fallujah has remained unreleased to this very day, and soon enough, this ambitious shooter was forgotten about by practically everyone… that is, until now.
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Game developers should never listen to people who don't play games.
yugosss good point people like to hate on shit
The people reporting on it and who appear on the shows aren't buying games to begin with. I agree with you. The actual prospective customers liked what they saw and that's all that should matter. It's always the people that aren't affiliated with something that shoot it down.
yugosss your right that's like asking a movie critic what's a good red wine? that's a question for wine connoisseur. devs should listen to the connoisseur not the random critic
yugosss but they do listen to shareholders and anylists.
yugosss well said
I was a paratrooper in Afghanistan in 2009, when this controversy came out. If I had been killed in Afghanistan and someone wanted to make a videogame a few years later about the battle I was killed in, I would feel quite honored. Ask the combat veterans how they feel and ignore everyone else.
@@jinxks6333 Yeah yeah quit acting like a little bitch you sand made fuck (im actually mexican what the hell am i doing here lol)
@@jinxks6333 He can't be in the military because God will kill him, but you can wish he and his dead friends burn in hell? I hope you are trolling...
@@azizbey4334 yeah, ok doodoo head
Jinxks allah ackbar boom boom explosions kapow
@@azizbey4334 Pretty positive that every major terrorist cell has been grinded into sand for the last 40 some odd years.
America does what it does quite well, which is the Search and Destroy doctrine of combat. We do the killing, and leave the actual frontline movement to whatever country's Government or Rebel force we are helping
This ambitious shooter was forgotten about by everyone, until now.
Hey, you stole my line!
By everyone
It's finally time
I'm excited for it 😁
@@MrNewVegas101 like all of us are!
Update: *The game is now releasing in 2021 with updated graphics*
i came here to see if anyone else had seen the good new's :)
@@NinesNX we'll see with gameplay
cinematic trailers tend to be not so representative to the actual gameplay so i guess we will see
@@NinesNX maybe but i think this game's main point is to tell the story's of the soldiers that fought there and the people that are hyped are looking for the game they waited for so long to see you know like even if it is bad i mean i'd still get it just to see how it is :) it makes me think about the early day's of gaming when i had my ps2 and i played Black Hawk Down it has that vibe as well
@@NinesNX czcams.com/video/BUewHj5VowU/video.html just in case you've not seen this :)
All new devs. Game has been changed a lot with realistic gameplay, realistic graphics, realistic story telling etc.
6:41 love how news anchors try to fake honest concern for their interviewees, I mean how are we supposed to believe that woman?
Journalists are sociopaths.
They're, look at her! She acts like a pre-programmed robot
You can see how awful "news" reporters and journalists are just by looking at the election and the aftermath still. Many of them undermining democracy and calling even for illegitimate actions such as murder against the president elect. Remeber that?
Will Jones you just had to inject your leftist bullshit didn't you?
BillyPilgrim Well it was fox news so...
family of Soldiers: this is violent and offensive
The Soldiers: This is awesome
2DGorillaz22 pretty accurate....
The public wants our servicemen to be known as quivering PTSD people who regret their service. The reality is that many enjoy what they do because the service is honorable and does make a difference, despite MSM propaganda. Warfare is tragic, but to thrive in it you have to be able to learn how to appreciate it's finer points, not be adverse to it. And as tragic as war is, there is nothing worse than surrendering without a fight. Most notable situation of that was known as the holocaust.
2DGorillaz22
2DGorillaz22 Disregarding how Iraqis may feel about this, of course. Maybe they don't like making the destruction of their country and deaths of their families into a game.
Its too bad that everyone will criticize anything to the fullest extent, even if theres no rationale behind it.
Should have just released it and slapped on a "Not a real depiction of war" fucking, obviously. People are retarded.
ITS ACTUALLY COMING OUT THIS YEAR
Yessirrr
It was only an announcement trailer.
Remember cyberpunk 2077 lads.
@@madwolf0966 Totally different scenario. This game was already finished over a decade ago.....
@@ArenBerberian Eeeeh, not really. Six Days in Fallujah (2021) is on a different engine and only started being made in 2016, while the original was made over a decade ago.
@@justryan6480 Still has the all the basis of a finished game to work from. The comparison with Cyberpunk is not really valid.
"This shooter became largely forgotten."
*Martin O Donnell has entered the chat*
Dude made the soundtrack to Halo, hell a lot of the guys who made Halo is working on the game
@@someretardontheinternet which is good very good.
@@extrasalt5303 Hell yeah that's a good thing
"How dare this game studio make light of the Iraq war for the purposes of entertainment and profit! That's *OUR* job!" -The Media
^Underrated comment!
Lol soooooo true
one of the best youtube comments I've seen in years
civilians are sheltered idiots that have more to say than anyone with experience. And the worst part, our four star generals get questioned by some IDIOT democrat congresswoman whos only there to push a femanist agenda and the bitch doesnt know shit about military.
Jo Ke
Ik the feminists and the woke people are like so triggered over everything. They don’t know what real oppression is lime
Six Days In Fallujah is a prime example of the double standard in entertainment media. Movies can cover events that actually happened but games cant because its interactive.
The same companies that own movie studios also own the news companies. Keep note of that moving forward.
Case in point - Hamburger Hill .
This is a very good point, actually. How many “based on a true story” movies are there? And they usually get a free pass. Hell, some win Oscars.
For a lot of people, games are just toys for children, and nothing more.
And Unfortunately, a lot of modern gaming journalists are also in that side.
@@foxpopulii380 we can have countless games set in a single era of real history but it becomes a problem when the game tries to cover events that actually happened only a handful of years prior to development of the game even starts. Yeah there's the whole "too soon" thing but some people learn about history better via interactive means.
you could easily make this today. Look at the new call of duty, arma 3, spec ops the line, and even squad. Not to mention insurgency sandstorm. THis game would be great today if remastered graphically to todays standards
To be honest it doesn't look that impressive to me but if any game devs would like to pick it up and release it titled as: Six Days then yes definitely. (Yes that is a 13 hours reference)
Exactly. If call of duty can release a game that makes people shoot hundreds of innocent civilians in an airport, then they can make a informative game based on true events.
I mean shit, if they wanted to be petty for all the backlash, somebody should release a game that’s almost spot on to Falujah, but say it’s fictional haha
@@imdatnigga9715 one thing to consider is spec ops the line. Phenomenal game, but didn't sell that well. Now it's not exactly the same thing we are talking about here, but more rugged military games don't exactly sell as well as the call of duties or battlefields.
The game looks like it would be an amazing ride, but we'll likely never see it released. I don't ever pay for singleplayer games, but if they were to say, remaster on the latest unreal or similar equivalent, I could see myself dropping 30$ on it.
tothedome566 Totally man. I wish there were more realistic single player shooters based on real events that had a budget like CoD or Battlefield. I would happily drop $60 for that.
I don’t know if you played it, but I recently played Modern Wafare ‘19 campaign and I thought it was whatever, until I found myself learning about real life military operations and it made me appreciate the shit out of that campaign. It’s almost as if infinity ward researched military ops, and put them into the game. For example we were fighting with Al Queda, in the game your fighting Al Qatala. In the game the country doesn’t know their government is fighting their ally’s like Russia, in real life a Navy SEAL mentioned that nobody believes we’ve been fighting Russia under the radar. Etc etc.
Long ass paragraph just to say I wish there were more non-fiction campaigns lmao
As weird as it sounds.... I’d rather it be released in its original graphical state 😂👌 it would just feel better and I’d enjoy it way more
Veterans: That's a cool game
Media and civilians who never have seen combat: ThAtS OfFenSivE
Alexandre Zigle comparing Modern Era US Soldiers to Nazis🤔 i smell capp nigga😂
@@harrymason1090 man stfu
@@harrymason1090 imagine comparing Nazis to people fighting scumbags, what a loser
The Red Pirate comparing the holocaust and the battle of fallujah ain't the same fucking ball park. It ain't the same league. It ain't even the same fucking sport!
Soquel_ 831 not a big difference to the civilians they bombed and killed, lives their ruined.
So we miss out on games like Six Days In Fallujah and get like 20 CoD games instead
Wonder if they'll make a game called "20 years of CoD"
The truest survival horror game
Timothy H. They should reboot it
Whats wrong with the cod games? Cod 4 and mw2 bo1 and 2 were the fucking greatest cod games
they should put it out in 2018
and all the cods after aw wernt good
Its stupid. The soldiers were all for the game and thats all that matters. Everyone else complaining about the game should have had no say in what happens
Marines*
“But look at this sad woman!” says the media.
These people are the lowest of the low.
People that didn't play games were the only ones complaining
Hydro Reefer The killed innocent Iraqi civilians are not
^
Trying to set a record for the most amount of graves you can stand on at once.
THE GAME IS BACK IN DEVELOPMENT!!!!!!
Is that tru?
@@suhasop4919 yep IGN released an announcement trailer a few days ago
fellow californian
DID YOU SEE THE GAME PLAY VIDEO?
I think it's going to be worth the long wait. They really made it look good
2019 - Modern Warfare with "fictional events" is still concerning "journalists"
True af😂 should have more likes
I really hope these pussies don’t make the game shitty. I swear society sucks dick today
Bryan O ikr the media actually just need to do one and let the people who will actually play the game decide on how it turns out
Goobar 57 yeah man if they don’t like it they don’t have to play it, it’s not a damn game for kids. I hope they make something similar to no Russian mission I miss graphic content like that
praveen g prakash the workd is dumby dumb dumb
''no you are not allowed to depict history''
Wombit huh?
civilians are sheltered idiots that have more to say than anyone with experience. And the worst part, our four star generals get questioned by some IDIOT democrat congresswoman whos only there to push a femanist agenda and the bitch doesnt know shit about military.
@@koltred im a civi and i can only assume how intense war is today. I want this to live vicariously through these strong men. The weaklings from california and satanic hollywood need to see this.
Koltred Anubus
AOC and her squad of idiots
Satanic Hollywood? Are you a sixty five year old boomer
this needs a crowd funded reboot
2023 update: never thought I'd see this game actually come out.
up
m in
I'm in
Dereck im in!
how about creating a public fund on indiegogo?
It's uncancelled, they've got even more veteran feedback, and now Marty O'Donnell is doing the soundtrack.
hell, its about damn time.
11.02.2021: "It was forgotten by practically everyone. That is until now."
So, making a game that tries to mimic the grey shades of war (also, approved by military veterans) is more offensive than making a game that is all about bullshit conspiracy theories with inflated dramatics?
Yep, even though making bullshit conspiracy theories that only cloud the truth should be considered more offensive just for the sake of preventing the truth from getting out. Pretty sad to be honest.
I wonder what the other game you're referring to is
i bet if this game was all about killing russians, it would be out on da market with nooo problems. but i dont know
I remember seeing Six Days in the news back when all the controversy blew up... that was over a decade ago, and I still haven't forgotten this game.
I remember a game called Full Spectrum Warrior, a graphic and hard hitting squad based tactical shooter that was set in a fictionalized version of Baghdad with 90% the same backdrop, and it was -FUCKING SPONSORED BY THE US ARMY-... Six Days is set in actual Fallujah, and everybody lost their fucking mind. Double standard if ever there was one.
There's a game now called America's Army: Proving Grounds, which in the steam description says it's "the official game of the U.S. Army"
They got butthurt because it doesn't glorify war like call of duty. It shows the real horrors of war. Or showed it I mean.
Yep, people bring up 9/11 as an excuse... But if count the civilians who died in 9/11 and the ones who died in Iraq killed by US soldiers, the numbers got beaten a lot time ago
One of the reasons Spec. Ops: the Line isn't well received
Yeah. People who think war is fun needs to watch some more documentaries. War is just hunger, loss of sleep, fear, grief
CoD WAW was a great example for showing horrors of war in a CoD game
we went to Afghanistan for the oil and the opium
5:38 Now THATS a chin!
Fuck sake man, I’m trying to be respectful and serious, reading everyone’s opinions and you made me laugh out loud from nowhere
come on bro.. i was already engrossed in the vid and then I burst out laughing 🤣
This dude is on of many to be the closest embodiment of "The Chad" meme
🌜🌜
How would it disrespectful? In a way it immortalizes the men
I think it is disrespectful due to the nature of the war. Iraq war was a unjustified war that stated that Saddam had nuclear weapons. Which caused the effects of millions of lives. Even by today's standard this would be considered war crimes and should be charged.
Now for me if they depict the realilty of the situation i have no problem with this. But it has been stated by the creators that they will not be dwelling over the war crimes that have occured in Fallujah. This is literally wiping the surface clean and rewriting history.
I can understand why people cna be mad. As long as they stayed true to history and could have made it for entertainment purposes.
@@arthurmorgan4942 you don’t need to show the crimes of the few to depict the actions of many
@@Tox1cAshes these are not just a criminal actions. Its war crimes. Dont be a idiot. The entire iraq war was a complete lie. If your making a game about a historic event. At least depict the actual events that occured during the event.
@@arthurmorgan4942 So the death squads Saddam sent out to kill civilians just... Didn't exist? Yeah we definitely shouldn't have fought these people....
@@LitEmbers you didnt go to iraq because Saddam was killing people. You went to iraq because if WMD. Lol do you even read history. Lol embarassing
The mainstream media that doesn't play video games got mad. I garuntee that if this had been a movie, nobody would have cared, it might have even been praised.
there are more than enough war movies based on actual events. Im with you man, i dont understand why this game never became a thing.
Like American sniper or black hawk down
The Mainstream media is shit even on informing and they wonder why people go to CZcams instead of them on a side note CZcams is being dick to real historian on CZcams ghost time history, WWII channel, and recently The armchair historian go demonetize
@@tobitaktlos3241 yeah but how many of those movies were realized while the actually war was happening. I’m not defending the detractors by any means just saying it was poor timing
Mainstream media is linked with Hollywood to secretly push their agendas through movies. They haven't taken over video games yet. So they're mad, they don't get to tell the story.
It sure was a shame this game was never released ;(
Yeah, it's just another historical shooter.
You don't see people bitching around every time someone makes a WW2 or Vietnam War game.
Chumbziii
To be fair Destiny is superb gameplay wise, it just lacked content and story. Here's hoping that Destiny 2 makes up for it.
I played the shit out of Destiny, and I can tell you, even the gameplay had issues. Particularly Bungie's poor decisions in weapon balance.
Chumbziii I respect your opinion but I love destiny.
It feels like in the recent years people are just afraid to make realistic hardcore games with a campaign, so far Im only seeig Insurgency Sandstorm comin out.
I remember 2006-2007 tons and tons of raw footage from Iraq and Afghanistan were all over CZcams
It was insane to see battles or fights take place literally yesterday than put on CZcams for anyone to see. I dont necessarily miss those videos but I do miss when CZcams allowed freedom for thier users...before Google purchased them
I'm an Afghan vet, OEF X 2009-2010. When you have the ACTUAL marines as technical advisors to the game, that is the opposite of offensive. That is honorable. I'll be picking this one up on the release date. It's a great historical battle that deserves to be remembered.
Thank you for serving. And I too wish to see and play this myself. I honestly gives me a better understanding of what you and them went through. For servicemen to give their personal experiences of what they experienced and encountered, if feel that this is important not just for historical value but understanding what real war is. Not just the games like Call of Duty or Modern Warfare where it's just guns blazing all the time.
Those who disapprove of this game don't have any idea what they are talking about.
@@degamispoudegamis watch out! We got a badass over here!
but disgraces the victims of US illegal wars.
Maybe it’s offensive because the marines had no business being there in the first place.
@@ooiiooiiooii not their fault. They didnt ask to be there.
soldier's family : this game should not exist our son thinks its offensive.
soldier: don't speak for me
Blaze it id slap my family if they had said that, speak for yourself
Pxndx Lunx exactly
Blaze it it's funny how the people who are not involved in this were making all the decisions and judgments
That's what middle aged white people do best.
the funny thing is America is an evil country, America commits all sorts of crimes and they go to other countries, kill and rape their people, all over resources and greed, people like that lady's son deserve to die, I hope every soldier fighting for America dies painfully
Lol Konami feared for their image. If only they knew what state they'd be in in 2017, this game would've been released.
Couldn't agree more.
Fitzgerald Krox how are they doin right now?
Pxndx Lunx Well, they're not exactly on the level of Valve, EA, Activision, and Ubisoft these days...
Konami's a business, and from a business standpoint (AKA their profits,) they're doing really well. They don't need to care about video games very much since that's not where their money's coming from.
But we were talking about their image in the VG industry. This is what they cared about when they dropped fallujah. This is what is shit in 2017 despite fallujah. Duh?
Watching this while Six Days in Fallujah sits downloaded on my computer rn
Who is coming back to this video after it just got revived?
I still want this game. Imagine it in 4k.
Insurgensy is a good game to fit that need.
@@k3kboi665 without a campaign and subpar realism to focus on the more arcade shooter style...
@@Rskproduct id call the game pretty realistic if you pick one of the harder settings. But there isint a campain as you said.
Squad or insurgency: sandstorm
4k would be mind blowing
I wish there was a way to kickstart 6 Days in Fallujah, maybe get it released on Steam.
felman87 It'd probably feel and look really dated.
Jonathan Morales and?
Ghost Recon 1 came out in 2001 and looks and feels very dated, yet is still great and has a lot of charm. People can appreciate it's quirks if the content is good.
Jonathan Morales Why do you think there's so many 8bit games and sidescrollers on steam that are doing really well
tjs That's different. 2D games age much better than 3D games.
"You get to die multiple times in a video game and still continue"
Yes. Because I'm not a soldier and I have to get to the end of the story to know what they went through.
11:20 Holy cow, it actually released a few days ago on Steam.
Six days in Fallujah would make a great movie title.
Wanna make a movie?
Spicy Gaming // Raijin I am down, I milsim and have the correct gear, be a honor to tell these men's story's.
Milsim = Military Simulator.
Poison rather have those going against me then looking like a fool jumping into a convo without grasping what was being discussed...unless you're trolling in fact you do horrible at btw.
No less for a video game either. I came here because of the name.
*This was right around the same time period where Manhunt, GTA: San Andreas and DOOM 3 got less hate in the media than this game.*
I hope someone decides to actually finish and release this game. It looked so good
Now it’s back
You’re wish became true
;)
The revived 6 days in Fallujah is so damn good. They nailed it from the combat to the AI fighting against you and even the dust clouds from explosions are super immersive. I’m glad this game was delayed and it got picked up again b/c it fits right in with the rest of tactical shooter community. They nailed tthe gameplay 10/10 and cannot wait to see what the game has in store a year from now.
Chances are, if the title and the game premise had the names changed just a bit (claiming only to be "loosely inspired" by the events of the battle, it could had been released especially now.
CoD portrayed killing civilians in Russia and the assassination of a Fidel Castro double and while both were controversial, those games ended up being released as they were.
MSM has to pick on the little guy in gaming and everything really.
The thing is, that pretty much happened. Spec-Ops: The Line.
@Owen Hale I can see what you're trying to say, but Six Days in Fellujah wasn't just going to be a narrative on video games, like SO:TL is. It was going to be a narrative on modern war at best. Even if it wanted to do it directly and/or intentionally.
+TheForgery In Black Ops you kill the clone of Castro. Anyway, its part of history and wasn't relevant anymore like the battle in Fallujah. The execution of civilians in Russia is fictional. Theres no equivalency here.
TheForgery dude I can't believe it all the people sons and daughters that died in ww1 and ww2 they could have easily went after cod and battlefield my goodness that's ridiculous
Hey, that was my unit! Thundering third! (3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment) I didn't go to Fallujah though. I joined their fleet right when they got back.
Killa-King Kong that sucks hahaha they were all salty and you were a boot hahaha
Killa-King Kong If you don't mind me asking, how do you feel about Americas involvement in Iraq and the Iraq War in general now ? Was a completely unneeded war in my opinion fought by young men for oil and the CIA.
I've been out for years man. I don't even care or pay attention to that stuff anymore. I don't even recall what I felt about the Iraq war. LOL
Kidd Kulture People tend to forget that Iraq was under the baath regime, a murderous regime that oppressed the people heavily, a regime that killed their own civilians with weapons such as nerve gas. I believe the Iraq war was a mistake, but I don't think illegitimate intents were behind it.
as someone who is from a family where literally everyone is a military veteran a third of which are combat veterans they often say so what? sometimes defending your country means defending its economy so either way they did their job
Activision and EA sponsored the backlash 😀
2021: Ok time to Revive this
War is horrible, so is media labeling things just for the controvasy, not knowing what they really are.
Great documentary, thanks for the massive amount of effort put into it.
controversy = money
Krash #42
war=money
controversy=money
war+controvery= no money
war-controversy=money x 2
Zani Puppyrhino genius
I'm releasing a video game called, 6 hours at my uncle's cabin. Its not released yet.
The Reaper I think you’re gonna meet some resistance with that game.
How's the progress?
@@TK-fy4nu Working on it. Got to jump through some legal hoops and wait for a court case to be over but I'm hype.
@@codydonoghue5082 Not yet but everytime I fart it smells like my uncles breath.
Sounds great.
“The Most Controversial Unreleased Game”? Ha. Not anymore, it isn’t.
Don't jinx it man...
Unfortunately the game that was sold as a "realistic depiction of war" in Iraq is not what we are getting but a propaganda game aimed at rehabilitating the image of the Iraq war.
Some of the main consultants on the game are black rock private military(disgraced war criminals responsible for various mass shootings of civilians unprovoked) and the creative heads of the project have already dismissed the idea of controversial content not in line with "a story of our brave men and women in the line of battle".
This is gonna be the most politically correct bullshit out there.
@@MrInuhanyou123 Source? The info I've seen says they interviewed Marines, Soldiers, and Iraqis. Nothing about any PMCs being interviewed.
Also, the devs specifically released a message a few months ago specifically talking about how they would address controversy. This included stating they would talk about white phospherous.
>Countless movies glorify war: It's fine
>One game tries to depict a recent military conflict: IT'S GLORIFYING WAR, CANCEL IT!!
It's all art. Who really gives a shit? Who is getting hurt here? No responsible parent is going to buy their kid an M-rated game called "Six Days in Fallujah." It's all art, if you don't like it, you don't have to pay attention.
What's funny is it's coming out this year
Well it has come to surface that the creators of this game will not be depicting the war crimes in Falluja. So it does seem a bit weird why you would not depict the reality of the game even tho you cna make the game entertainment such as spec ops.
@@arthurmorgan4942 Yeah that feels kinda weird. Like you should at least try and depict it accurately.
@@nate.draws.things agree
@@arthurmorgan4942 Not many war crimes happened over there but go ahead and believe in the lies they tell you. Civilians getting caught in the crossfire isn't a war crime, but rather civilians being stupid
"Game that tackles a real conflict with an actual story and place and help of veterans of that conflict is ligtening the sacrifice of our soldiers! Let's ban it! And oh yeah, these games that make warfare into infinite-respawn multiplayer sport are totally fine."
...people are such idiotic creatures.
true...
Kyros Droztamyr *mediocre
because you consider the death of individuals in a war america alledgedly started by lying to the UNand spreading soft power propaganda a legitimate "sacrifice"? In that case you're no smater than they are.
L'alien You clearly need to check your facts... you’re stupider Than the press was when this game was revealed
MidnightSt Not idiots. Hypocrites.
A fuck ton more people died during D-day (that was vicious and was a real event) and people dont freak out when games don't freak out
Desert Fox Emperor Tom Clancy had a game for that, lol
Чики Брики69 there all dead
But it is still bloodier than Fallujah and we are just simply making games (freely) that we are making fun with those people who died in the beaches.
I was in the first battle of fallujah (the smaller one) and later, operation steel curtain. I would have enjoyed this game more than likely. Mostly for the stories those guys are willing to tell and to give my respect. The top comments are spot on! S/F
CoD: *Makes Black Ops set in Vietnam where America committed so many war crimes and where 2 million civilians died*
Media: 🙂
SDF: *makes game about a battle that veterans actually like*
Media: tHaT's OfFeNsIvE
@HW Expert 2 million vs 800,000...Hmmmm I wonder which is more
@HW Expert ik its a lot but the war crimes in Vietnam were much worse
My point is, SNOWFLAKES STOPPED US FROM HAVING A COOL, REALISTIC AND FUN GAME! NOT JUST THAT BUT GAMES LIKE SANDSTORM AND COOL REALISTIC GAMES ARE ONLY ON PC
What about Vietnam vets that did nothing did they get called a baby killer
@@rfj1156 the death of a million is a statistic to you?
The worst thing that the *FAMILIES* were the ones that were ass holes but the *SOLDIERS THAT ACTUALLY FOUGHT IN THE WAR* Liked it and helped the game but The *MEDIA* Always says "THEY ARE PUTIN THA WARRRRR IN A GAEM AND THAT'S BAAAAAAAAD BECAUZE WE DON'T LIKE IIIIITTTTT AND IT'S JUST OUR OPINIOOOOOON!" And everyone start hating it because they heard it on the media,it's always happen when they overhate a game or console
Preach
Blog it homie
As a former Marine myself I wish it would have released. I would love for this game to see the light of day. I would personally try to be the first in line to buy this. The fellow Marines and fellow service members who all participated in the war on terror and paid the ultimate price deserve us to purchase this game as a tribute to them for the sacrifice they made.
Ignore this coward^ I wish they would have made this game too man.
Thanks for your service man.
Wish I could have been there with you. Recruiters won't talk to me after they find out I've had two heart surgeries. Serving in the military has been my goal since I was a kid, and for all the right reasons. Guess God had other plans.
@@Cyalagen dissapointment
Guys the trailer came out
As someone who was there, in Fallujah, Nov 2004, I have mixed emotions about this. Granted, this video is now a few years old and today was the first time I have ever heard of this game.
I have mixed emotions because watching this, the 'real' footage of Fallujah, I started to get a bit apprehensive. But I would still buy the game and play it, so long as it was/is accurate enough. That was my problem with titles like Call of Duty or Battlefield, they just were not accurate enough, and why I stopped playing. Hearing what sounded like an 8yr old kid talking smack on a game that I should dominate at given my background.
I do love to concept of educating people though video games. This is not a new concept, one of CoD's focuses was to educate on WW2 with their first release.
When I was in Fallujah, with my Marines, we joked about how someday, someone would make a video game like CoD only about us and what we did "here." We also said there would be blockbuster semi-accurate movies about us. And that by 2020 (today) there would be a Disney World where we were standing just outside the city. One of these came true, and sadly, the media stopped it.
TractorsNStuff I mean American sniper kinda covers fallujah but we definitely need a movie about that fight
It isn’t Fallujah and it isn’t even a real war but I’m curious if you’ve played Spec Ops the Line and how you feel about it as a veteran?
TractorsNStuff hey, a game called Squad just came out with a really great Fallujah map, I think you’ll like that : )
czcams.com/video/Y7XeYi-MCSY/video.html
Anyone here after the new trailer just came out?
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@@jacobhunter6891 I'll add another Yee to your Yee but no homo
Yee
The problem with this game was timing. Right now this would be fine.
Kingtwood30 Now you can play Insurgency Sandstorm... Well, when it comes out that is
im so pumped for sandstorm
if it were just that they woulda changed the name and released it under the radar. the fact is the game probably sucked and they could make more money and investors off the attention instead and just not release the crap game to ruin any publicity they garnered
This comment did not age well at all.
As a combat veteran, THIS IS THE KIND OF GAME WE NEED! This game honors the fallen and their memory.
Also it shows us the real story of how war it is, a real experience how it supose to be, games like that are the best. It's not only by how the game and the feeling that gaves me, also of how it teach us of how a war is.
@@Cyalagen You should shut the fuck up. You are not safe behind your monitor all the time. There are many people who can find out who you are and where you live. You better stay low bro.
@@Cyalagen
The fuck is wrong with you? Inbred fuckface.
@@Cyalagen it's easy to say that when you're not the one fighting ungrateful shithead
Good onya buddy :)
It’s such a shame that a game with so much love and respect put into it was shut down.
nah its coming back now :)
Call of duty was able to release “no Russian” there should be absolutely no way criticism is what hindered the released of this 🤦🏾♂️
I worked as a QA tester for Destineer games and tested Breach along with several of their other games. I remember being told that most of the maps and assets in the game came directly from Six Days In Fallujah.
One story that sticks in my mind is that I was messing around and discovered that reloading before completely emptying your magazine seemed to cause later reloads to give you incomplete amounts of ammo, e.g. you would wind up with only 21 in your 30 round magazine. I messed with it for a bit and wrote up a bug on it. To my surprise I was told that this was intentional, and found that the game actually kept track of the amount of spent bullets per magazine, and since you only had two or three of them you would eventually cycle back to a magazine with only the bullets that you had not fired previously left in it.
Also the focus of the game seemed to be on the destruction mechanics but they were very poorly realized. There were maybe one or two spots per map where you could plant explosives to break open a wall or destroy a bridge, but they were very easy to reach and would typically be done very early into a match, to the point where they might as well have started that way because it took zero effort to do. The most effective use of the mechanic as found by us testing was to shoot out a single brick of one of the buildings and use it as a sniper peephole.
SuperfluousMoniker you know, tbh I've always had a problem with games in that when you reload a magazine with 18 rounds left, and you have only 12 rounds to spare, they get added together to get 30. I think the the should bring that back were it keeps track of the number of rounds each magazine has.
SuperfluousMoniker oh my god, I've always wanted a game to do this. Keeping track of bullets in each magazine/clip makes so much sense but no major games I've found do it :(
Rising Storm 2: Vietnam.
Check it out. I play it quite a bit. Its what some call a "Lite MilSim". Its not as sim as ARMA, but more so than BF. It has just enough arcadey elements to keep it exciting while maintaining a very realistic environment. The launch trailer is legit gameplay. That is what it is like.
the Red Orchestra series does this, as does the ARMA series and a few others I cant remember, but back in the half-life days, a mod called Firearms had this feature, along with the ability to combine partially empty magazines, which would leave you vulnerable till you were finished.
Insurgency does that
So literally every FPS should be banned, also it's ironic that the Marines and soldiers aren't offended.
6000 civilians killed but let's cry about a video game not being released snowflake.
John Kapp 6000 civilians killed, but let's cry about a video game.
Knightmare Gaming right
lol just leave us then play our video games while you go light a candle for those civilians. But im sure that deep inside, you also dont give a fuck about them.
John Kapp Who cares?
Imagine if they used the same argument against a ww2 game that depicted say d day. This game needs to somehow be revived and finished with modern tech
They did with the original Medal of Honour, but it got pushed to release anyways.
It's coming back man!
@@serathaevistille995 A veteran was against it at first but once he saw how dedicated they were with the details of the game he became fully on board
This game was just reannounced and will be releasing later this year.
So let me get this straight
WWI&WWII= Ok
Any other war game: THIS IS SO OFFENSIVE
kinda makes sense though, ww1&2 were wars for freedom, the collision of ideologies. Middle east, on the other hand, different story. The only real reason for war there is OIL. everyone wants that precious syrian iraqi afghanistani oil. also notice how when we see wars for nothing in media (or movies or games) we often see soldiers suffering PTSD and questioning purpose of war ('Nam or middle east) and wars for something (WWII) don't make people question purpose of war because they were fighting for their freedom against an insane ideology. they were defending the world and their countries.
@@MacMan2152 The US didn't invade for the oil.
@@yourlocalmemeandanimedeale807 oh yeah, my favourite "we are invading because of the terrorists but we are also kinda allying with another terrorists". The same goes for USSR invasion in afghanistan.
@@MacMan2152 Look the US didn't invade Iraq and Afghanistan for the oil. The US invaded for other reasons.
@@yourlocalmemeandanimedeale807 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_war
The wars in the Middle East also serve as proxy wars between NATO and Russia since a real war conflict between Russia and its allies versus NATO would turn the world into ashes. It was like this ever since the start of cold war. Some of the older wars like 'Nam and korean wars were also proxy wars between Eastern Bloc (Warsaw Pact) and NATO.
I still want to see this game. People keep talking about controversial, that games are only for kids and fun, but that is opinion of people who don't play games. And they are not even think, that games may be more than just a entertainment. They think that if the game is about something controversial, than it must be banned, just because they don't like it. If veterans give their approval, if veterans help make this game, if veterans defend this game, then it must mean something. But no, we have some people that see games only as amusement for stupid children. I would like to see the game, that not only centered on shooting, but also on atmosphere and story. I'm sick of modern warfare games, but if the game will give me something interesting, I'll buy it.
Thanks for the video guys, it was really interesting.
Zloy_dedulya - Well said Sir.
Which is why I'm always happy to see games such as Syrian Warfare on the market - the fact that that game is well received (despite being pro-Assad) is a huge plus too!
Zloy_dedulya if I hit the lottery tomorrow I would definitely find a studio or team to give this game a updated look and engine. I find it absolutely heartbreaking that men who wanted this game to happen, get their stories told and have the memory of their friends honored never got the chance too. Just because a video game can be fun doesn't mean it can't be a emotional heartbreaking story about the horrors of life. The Last of Us tugged at my heart strings more then most movies do and I feel like it's because allowing me to control the character made me so much more invested in it.
ready or not looks pretty good. and with crowd sourcing anything is possible. this game will live one day.
Fat Trillionaire
Did neo-Nazis give their approval when id Software made Wolfenstein 3d? Did Russia give its approval when Infinity Ward made Call of Duty (Treyarch made Cod:Blops)? Do they have to? If so, why?
If Vietnam wants to make a video game where you play as a member of the Vietcong and shoot Americans, go right ahead (I remember them trying to do so anyways, using Cod:Waw's engine). If Hezbollah wants to make a video game where you shoot Izraelis, be my guest (In fact, they did just that: check out Hezbollah's Special Force 2, a Far Cry ripoff). Problem is, those games suck.
Which is exactly why I'm supportive of Syrian Warfare, and seriously hope the Syrian army or Russia won't be offended by it enough to pull it from shelves. And no, I don't think they need Al-Nusra's permission to sell the game.
If I was that marine who died at fallujah, I would've joined USMC with the sole purpose of not having to listen to my mother's cackling anymore
Falluja vet here: Would love to play this game and get to stack insurgent bodies from the comfort of my couch.
Signed Cpl Shmuckatelli
So did you enjoyed killing mens in Fallujah so much you'd like to do it again in a game?
Or is it nostalgia or what?
@@Mad_Morrison no u
@@Mad_Morrison what are you gay?
@@Mad_Morrison pussy
Simple question, Im curious. While y'all only thinks of making fun of what you believe to be a question originating from a place where I was triggered, well, gotcha pussies, you just proved that you are the triggered ones
In the fifties it was rocknroll, in the eighties it was horror movies, today it is video games that dont cause violent behavior at all
karottenkoenig so true, its SO ANNOYING
Jack Sin same goes for movies and music of the last decades. Videogames arent asking for it more than any other entertainment medium
Let's also not forget the satanic rituals that were Dungeons & Dragons. ;)
Also, I bet in the future we'll be saying the same about some narcotic substances (say, cannabis)
karottenkoenig studies tell a different story actually. but I still fuck wit em.
To be fair the argument has been there since the 70's, though somehow they haven't figured out that 40 years of making the same false argument doesn't make it any more true.
Press F to Pay Respects
yeah *much* less offensive :/
lets add black female nazi's into it, then it will be fine.
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Wow and they even had scenes with actual veterans explaining shit in between missions?! That's more respectful than any other game currently out.
You can have fun but also learn about it
im proud to tell you that now six days in fallujah is back and the scenes with the vets have been re-recorded and they will be in the game
There are people who fought in WW2 and Vietnam still alive today.
And yet we have no problem making games about those battles.
Any controversy is fucking stupid
I don't see why it had to be so controversial. People never complain about accurate shooters set in other battles such as events of WWII.
Duglife because ww2 is not accurate is fake and Americans were getting pounded obviously if they accurately told ww2 they would ban it
chris Plissken lmao k
As simple as it gets:
Because no one cared.
The only reason why it was controversial was because parents who lost their children started those conversations.
For WWII there were no parents who could start it and the people who fought in it didnt care about a game placed in the setting, especially because they hoped that games will be a warning for the younger generations.
There are a bunch of games set in Iraq that released while it was happening
chris Plissken lol ok
>Game which uncovers the truth of war that will make one person open their mind about what happens to the said event
>Approved by veterans themselves
>Is actually trashed
>Anti-war group doesn't like depictions of war based on real life
>Still unreleased because of anti-war group
Man. This is a shitty millenia we live in. These sensitive ass needs to stop.
Kenneth Ravanilla
gg.
it wasn't just anti-war groups but i get that you want to push your narrative of evul ess jay dubyahs
It was old people. Why are you talking about millennials?
EUPHORIC Le-WiS “This shitty millennia”
Military families aren't the brightest
Games like this must be made.
1. We need to remember them, their sacrifice, their struggle, for us, for freedom. Why are the names of fallen soldiers are etched in stone in WW2 memorials?
2. Denying us reality, blinds us to evil, cripples us from having the strength to confront evil when it arises.
3. We must be prepared, we must be trained, otherwise evil will face no resistance.
Freedom? You think us soldiers in Iraq fought for your freedom? What did it forget there???
@@TheManinBlack9054 prove you are a veteran, post a video of you addressing me on CZcams and link that video in your next reply or you prove you are pretending to be a veteran.
@@philipjdry1234
Wtf? He asked you a question. It matters not whether he is a veteran or not. The Man is correct. Anyone thinking that the war was for “freedom” has a screw loose.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 yes tf, I have to ask this question otherwise he is not credible but a fake, a pretender, stolen valor. and I she he is using his second account to make a fake support for his first account. pathetic
@@philipjdry1234
You make no sense whatsoever.
Unbelieveable that the developers are finally bringing this back and will release it this year.
Well my great great grandpa died in WWI, but I still played battlefield 1
Did you die in Battlefireled 1?
Monster
@@level8473 yes, but we re-spawned
@@acaptainnachoz2111 stfu
Don't you have ppl to ban on fb🤔🤣🤣
it's ironic that this particular game, striving to mostly accurately depict a real conflict, got so much flak, when cod, the last medal of honor and others had been doing these jingoistic power fantasies making a mockery of wars we've fought, and more completely unrealistically, for many more years and definitely around the time of this game. no justice in this world
Oddly enough, the early WWII-based Call of Duty games, for example 'Call of Duty 2' and 'World at War' were not the power fantasies of later instalments, such as 'Advanced Warfare' and 'Black Ops III'. They sought to depict a chaotic war zone and position the player as an ordinary soldier - not as an OP hero.
"early WWII-based Call of Duty games" "'World at War" lmao world at war came out after cod 4.
Nibula “World at War came after cod 4”
No shit, Sherlock. Besides, World at War is still one of the earlier CoD games (if you wanna get technical). Therefore, I stand by my statement.
Aeron Neff the war picture had currently been going on. Ww1 was 100 years ago, and ww2 was almost 70 years ago
It's probably exactly because it was striving for realism that it got taken down. It strikes too close to home for some, whereas a lame power fantasy with nothing to say can be easily discarded.
My grandfather who served in WWII at D-Day thought me playing Medal of Honor: Allied Assault was the coolest shit he ever seen. Same with Saving Private Ryan. Could you imagine what he experienced on Omaha Beach and what he saw?
I understand parents of lost children in this war would be upset. But, come on….
Afghanistan veteran here. There is nothing offensive about this game. Honor my brothers by releasing a game that shows the bravery, sacrifice, and rawness if combat.
Who that on the voice over? Tony the tiger or that homeless guy with the golden voice???
or James Earl Jones' brother?
Read the description, dude
Steve Petitt
it literally shows his name in the video, evidently you didn't watch the whole thing
darude sandstorm bro
The worst is the mom of a dead marines who think people will minimize the death of those who fougth she doesn't understood that it will have made possible for people to remenber their dead better or even make people want to know why those man fought
They should revolt more against the real threat. Their government.
Pathetic patriotic.
+SpookyTheCat
I think the problem is that the ones who are protesting aren't gamers, themselves. They think of games as mere entertainment, because the last game they played was Pacman, and let's face it: Pacman didn't offer up much in the immersion and emotion department. The technology just wasn't there yet, but today's games easily rivals both literature and cinema when it comes to emotional impact. There are countless games I have played that have made me completely drained emotionally after it's ended and made me question my world view. I think that this would be such a game. It had the possibility to make the players feel disgusted at the war and how it played out. I would like to know whether it would feel comfortable to have a book published, a movie or documentary made, or is it considered disrespectful to even talk about the battle of Fallujah? May it be taught in schools?
I wanted the game but I doubt if players would notice the sacrifice.
True. This game is a piece of American and Marine Corps history. It's a shame that she didn't see it that way at the time.
I know. The men who fought beside she son in the war know what he would’ve wanted. Because they are in the same situation with him and understand is sacrifice.
Marines who fought this battle: We want you to tell our story and make this game so people have a small idea of what happened and what went through
Random clueless civilians: This is disgusting and disrespectful to everyone in the battle! Don’t make it!
Marines actually in the battle: No we helped make the game and want our story told.
Random clueless civilians: Shut up marines don’t act like your opinion is more valid than our just because you were there and we weren’t!
I think it is more along the lines of the Marines wanting to tell their story, while leaving out the mass war crimes American soldiers achieved during those days. So ita just another tone deaf game that only wants to tell half the story.
@@GMoneyChuck89 What do you think every single god damn war is guy?
Do you realize half the reason the game wasn’t even able to come out was because family members of the deceased soldiers said it was grossly inaccurate and misrepresentative of what happened
Funny how parents and loved ones wanna criticize a game saying it’s disrespects their fallen members but they can’t really speak for them becasue they weren’t in their shoes personally I see no reason this game shouldn’t be made honestly it’s good to show us what they went through [Edit] update it’s 2 years later and the game has released and I love it gotta enjoy life!!
Well ww2 is a real event right which killed nearly 100 million soldiers and many games are released based on it........ So why falujjah is it blasphamous or something
the punisher hmm think for a minute. When did World War II happen? If you said 1939-1945 then you would be correct. Now let's think when did the Iraq War happen? If you said 2003-2011 then once again you're right. If you would've listened just a bit you would've realized Six Days in Fallujah was released in the middle of this war. While the earliest World War II games where released 30 years after the war. I imagine you can see what I mean here
It wasn’t released
And there were a bunch of games about the Iraq war that released in that time slot
the punisher dumbass
They didnt want it released because in this one city over 800 civilians died most were killed by the americans she didnt want her son to be remembered by the murder he was
As an actual veteran, I love the thought of a game about it. It brings to light the plight of brace men in an unpopular war
Nick Ortega the people are very stupid
coming out of the marines in september of 2010, i fell in love with bf3 when it was released a year later, due to its somewhat immersive realism, to the point that i sunk a little over 1800 hours into it. with that being said, i would love to see this game come out.
Nick Ortega
Thank you for your service.
U.S. Army Veteran
12 1/2 years Honorable Service
MOS : 97B/14J
Gulf War Vet
OEF/OFI Vet Deployed to Theatre
Not offended
Thank you for your service.
It's coming out this month gentlemen. Let's do this.
It’s finally out. After all this time, it’s finally out. My father fought in Iraq for the Marines, so when I heard about this I was devastated that people didn’t want this game to be made for the stupidest reasons. But now it’s here. And I couldn’t be happier
I like how the mother of the dead veteran appeared on the news with jewellry round her neck, earings and well made hair and yet does not even show any sense of remorse or even a small sense of restrain when talking about her deceased son.
I will state this, the news is a major pest when it comes to games that base themselves on recent historical events. I never heard the news bitching about how the Battlefield series is becoming a haven for young children that resort to petty insults against others, but they bitch about games that are there to educate people about the realities of war, that war is no place for glory.
Humanity is ignorant I tell you...
I agree with you. I think the game Six Days in Fallujah could have been a great educational tool, had it been released
It's not humanity, it's American. Don't group us up with them. If this game is developed in EU, for sure it will see the day of light. I don't think any country that has to glorify war as much as U.S.
If you believe that so, then you are wrong sir for I am European and I know what goes on in Europe.
EDIT: I will also add that it does not matter whether the game was developed in any country, it would have still recieved scrutiny if it was being developed in a different country with some of the developers travelling to America to talk with the veterans.
And after it recieved scrutiny the publishers would still have backed out. No matter the country or continent of development.
Anyway I will still back my statement, all of Humanity is ignorant.
nguyen ba giap you only further his point that humanity is ignorant
@ This is about war. I don't think such country that promote War such as daily advertisement as U.S. You can say that conflict happen regularly between countries, because it will happen regardless: the point here is when U.S promoting WAR as their main industry with such scale, they don't care about their employee at all, and new employees would hesitate to find job in this industry. And about developing in different countries. YES IT MATTERS. You saying it doesn't meaning you know jack shit about culture influence on entertainment products. Not all game are made for everyone.
If all of humanity is ignorant, then so do you, thus your saying is no less ignorant than others.
I truly do feel sorry for all the families with relatives who died in the Iraq war, but this game seriously would've been a massive success if it were released. The game wasn't meant to glorify violence, it was meant to show a realistic depiction of the Battle of Fallujah, and I understand that.
wales2k liberals I think
wales2k I don't think it would of worked out. It would of gotten destroyed by battle field and call of duty
Golden Triangle this game doesn't look like it was made to compete with CoD or BF
Edwin O'Gray ya ik
Well, it's not like they'd make you shoot civilians or bomb houses, so as an Iraqi myself, I don't see a problem with it (But then again, I don't have any friends who died in Fallujah).
It’s baaaaack! And it’s releasing this year!
Its currently February 28th 2022, & its finally almost here! Its actually coming out before the years end! I've literally been waiting for this game since it was know about!
I wish I was rich enough to become a publisher, I would be dropping all sorts of controversial topics no matter what.
If you were, Drop 9/11
@@MM-zw8sm There is a VR game ( i cant remember the name sadly) that kinda simulated the events. You basically spawn in a Skyscraper the whole simulation is you witnessing it exploding. I remember i watched a vid from a streamer who was so shook that he cried.
I’m surprised Rockstar never picked this game up, they could give 2 shits about goddamn controversies
Clausvonclauswitz yes they do
@@DudetaketheBus Unfortunately true both ways, they'd tell stories of all kinds in their single player campaign, but then have the MP be a total grindfest to encourage them buying their premium currency (tho this is probably more of 2k's fault than RS')
The detail is fucking beautiful even for a game that was gonna come out back in the first decade of the 2000's!!!
It's finally here guys!
This game could actually release if Modern Warfare goes all right. They could remaster it and it would sell because it never released.
The only thing we could do now is think "what if..."
we need to start a petition to have this game finished, polished and released. Consider a tribute to the brave man that fought, bled, and some that died there.
Hi, the game is resurrected now.
Do you realize half the reason the game wasn’t even able to come out was because family members of the deceased soldiers said it was grossly inaccurate and misrepresentative of what happened
@@rickyredbeard8274 is that so?.... How?! Were the relatives there? Grief will cloud reality.. but idk either, the game is in development once again, so i guess we'll find out.
Why? They were all invading terrorists conducting an illegal war. Americans are so brainwashed.
Tribute to war criminals and rapists
Who's here after they announced that the game is coming back?