1976 BMW 2002 - Jay Leno's Garage
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- Marc Norris, the founder of the Bavarian Workshop, stops by the garage with a 1976 BMW 2002 that has been modified just enough for Jay's taste.
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Only thing purist about this car is Jay merging onto the freeway without using the turn signals, now that's BMW!
MrPrincecharming88 Yeah, but that is offset by all the ones who shine their rear fog lights in clear weather.
HaHa!!!
No-turn-signals isn't a BMW thing, it's a SoCal thing. Many think signals are a sign of weakness, which has jerks speed up 5 car lengths back to cut you off from merging.
@@erolfox Who signals on a freeway merge into the No. 1 lane? Everyone knows you're merging unless you were planning on driving in the breakdown lane. The job of the merger is to hit the highway at flow of traffic speed so you don't cut anyone off. Yes, I live in SoCal.
@@olivertwisted What does the law state?
I appreciate that great visibility. Lost in this era of cars with small windows and huge protective pillars.
Tough the pillars are small the B pillars are almost indestructable. Recently my dads bmw 2002 got a huge tree over it, only parts damaged was both front doors, windshield, A pillars and the roof infront of the b pillars. B pillars didnt move asmuch as an inch, which is pretty impressive.
I owned a '69 2002 and the visibility was superb. You could see 360º with a glance over the shoulder or in the mirror. Such a clean car.
Many cars are like tanks. Metal is cheaper than glas.
I enjoy the great visibility in my Subaru Outback.
I drive old American cars...
Blind spot check, the physical act of looking over my shoulder, the reaction to this and making eye contact with Driver in lane desired, Visibility yes, plus being Seen as well..
This is gone now in modern Cars,, Try to see the face of the driver next to you in traffic, while you're in there blind spot,, most car's, even if they tried to, it's blocked....
Daily Driver 68 Dodge Dart,,
What a fantastic job he has done. The interior is amazing.
That drive-by honk while passing that red GTV... RESPECT where respect is due 😍
Hey Jay, don't get me wrong, I love all the guests and everything but it seems like it's been ages since you've done one of your own cars and there are so many staring us in the face in the background. Again, I totally get that you're giving back to the car community by having guests on but it would be cool to have a balance between your stuff and others. I'd love for you to redo the Citroen SM, maybe get into some of your vehicles from the 20's and 30's again?
Has he done his p1? Does he still have that car?
Go back and watch the old videos he has done most of them
He's done nowhere near most of them, he has hundreds.
He's deleted a lot of older videos without explanation.
Brz
Man, what a awesome car.
Very well thought out modifications.
Simply beautiful.
The best and the most delightful car i ever owned. Bought it used. A 1974, 2002 in 1986 for $3600. Basic, stock and unmodified. 4 speed stick - It had around 80,000 miles on it. A simple 2-0 liter 110 hp. engine with the original Solex carburetor which was replaced by a Weber. A wind mechanism sun roof which was HUGE. The interior was spartan and so crisp. The visibility in the car was astounding and such a contrast to the cars of today with the high 'belt line' and narrow windows. Horse hair seats! It was such a pleasure to drive and throw around curves. It could cruise all day at 85 mph. Had it up to 95-100 mph several times and it always felt rock solid and firmly planted on the road. it was also such a practical car with comfortable rear seats and a gigantic trunk. The owner's manual taught you to do everything (including adjusting valves if you wanted to).
For readers who are interested, an article Originally published 50 years ago in "Car and Driver magazine"' (April 1968) says it all. "Turn Your Hymnals to 2002 - David E. Davis Jr. Blows His Mind on the Latest from BMW."
More on the "Whispering Bomb":
www.caranddriver.com/reviews/1968-bmw-2002-review
My first car was a '69 2002 that had factory a/c! It never worked and I sold it for $100 which was 1/5 what I paid for the car. The car was 12 years old when I got it and probably was a couple hundred pounds lighter than what Jay said because my car had a steady diet of road salt here in New England. Drove it until the frame (it's a unibody, I know) in front split. Even with the variable suspension geometry it was still one of the best handling cars I ever owned!
$100 🥲
That 2002 is absolutely stunning. My favorite kind of resto-mod is one that is built and engineered so well you can't tell that it is one and this one is definitely one of those cars. This builder knocked this one out of the park!
ahh the 2002 has such a timeless look. its beautiful
I drove the 1970 2002 model in '71 for a year and just absolutely loved the car, talk about smooth and quiet. I pegged the speed at 115 mph plus for almost three hours late one night on a run from San Diego to Tucson, AZ. On the return leg the AZ Highway Patrol caught up to me, he said he chased me for 20 plus miles but I don't think I went over 100 mph, I think I stayed around 90 or so, $20 fine.
Outstanding, the BMW 2002 absolutely one of my all time favorites. Wish I still had mine.
Me too...
I love this car. I used to valet in college and whenever we got an M3 with that early 4-cylinder....oh boy. Just to drive it a block was a treat. Wonderful motor.
"The original didn't come with air" - seems like that ship sailed with the M motor and the 5-speed.
Well Jay did say he liked to keep the interior stock.
@@paulfitz4861 Behr and Clardy was dealer-installed AC and would be very appropriate looking. Unless he really is going for the 74 Turbo look, but seriously, who the hell cares what the interior console looks like?
Car would be unusable in Florida.
This takes me back. In 1976 and being in my late teens, I had a friend who had a 2002TII. We screamed from Colorado Springs to Woodland Park, going up and down the canyons at ridiculous speeds. I loved that car!
A really nice car!
In '69 my father bought a 2002 with 100 HP. He drove to customers in the Rhieland, at the North Sea and the Netherlands, selling Henschel engines for ships and busses. When I had hollydays, he took me with him on daytrips. There were less Autobahnen in those days and no general speedlimits on countryroads. When possible, we travelled at 100 miles per hour or more. And no seatbelts that time, but less traffic then today.
Learning to heel-and-toe seemed daunting until I drove a 2002. The pedals were simply in the right place and it was easy. These are just huge fun to drive. Thanks Jay.
10:58 Jay pulls right out in front of that truck lol. Omgg 😂😅
When you drive a BMW you get to do that.
@@MrZachgonz why is that lol?
I seen that too....lol Was wondering if anyone else noticed.
As a bmw driver, I approve this message ^
Haha, he almost had to pay for that one!
Almost the perfect Resto-Mod:
1. Needs AC;
2. Doesn't need the fart box;
3. Badge should read M2002.
Here Here !!
emblem can have the rest '002' added in same modern font 👍🏻
just buy an m2 or a 520 that´s a litle bigger and taller and could fit a big engine i had a V8 on one of them, and i took parts to make it look more sportive and safe from 4 cars in a junkyard from a friend
I fully agree with getting rid of the fart box!
Don’t need air conditioning in the U.K. galvanised yes, air , nope
Great review, I love this car. BMW should be cars like this again.
Jay, this series is crazy good. Thank you for making this content.
10:58 Jay has a senior driver moment.
Used to own one back in the '70s when I taught at the Institute of Design in flat Chicago. Drove it once all the way up to an isolated lake in Canada as well as the UP off the top of Wisconsin. Mine had round taillights. Such fun to drive! Carried two concrete blocks in the trunk to keep from swinging around and traction in the winter snow. Loved the Great presentation by Jay and his memories of working in a garage. He is such a real person.
The sound of that exhaust makes me smile in my sleep.
lol at Jay pulling a no-lookie no-blinkey and cutting off a Tacoma right at the start of the drive.
nicely done!
Love that car !
Tastfully done and perfectly modified for more safety and just the right amount of performance .
The exhaust sounds horrible at high revs, though, and that M2 badge ....
they were safer than the new ones, at least the 3 and 5 series at high-speed, they drive like a sport car ,you seat almost int he floor and the wheels are higher than you when driving it, with the right shock absorvents they are incredible good to drive and it´s rare to see a new car on the road that can turn as good as there are some faster but they brake heavilly before a turn while the 2002 turns safe at the same speed it was before the turn, they are very well designed cars for driving fast and used a lot in competitions during the 70´s
Jay, yer keeping me alive! Love the variety of cars and info you supply on your shows.
My first experience was with a 2002tii back in 1976. We were driving 440 magnums and
350LT- 1 Z/28s and we just loved that little rocket. The sound the cornering and the power was fun as it could get. Then driving one to the ski resorts over and over was heaven. I really need one for my car collection.
I saw 1976 BMW 2002 and clicked like. It's the simple things.
Timeless beauty. Thank you❤️
The "lightweight" concept on cars always made sense to me, but I couldn't get my head around how great driving they are. I just got a Honda type r (weighs around 2100 lbs) and I see what Jay is always talking about... its magic!!!
I had one of these all stock , greatest run around car . Called it the little tank. Drove like you were on rails.
The builder seems to be pretty reasonable. Changing the exhaust like he mentioned sounds like a good idea. And being built 10 years ago the car looks rock solid.
Brandon Bassani Why shouldn't it change anything? For the FR-S/BRZ/GT86 you can buy some aftermarket exhaust with either resonated or non-resonated version (Milltek for example) and they sound different.
Love this car,it was restored beautifully!
My dad had two of these when I was a kid. He loved both of them. He'd always tell me how impressed he was with them the first time he saw them at Laguna Seca. He ended up selling them but I'm not sure where they ended up, I was young and didn't see the appeal of them at the time. We lost my dad a few years ago. I'd love to find them again.
Mark, I had the pleasure to meet you in the early 90's. I worked for your Brother Rick Norris, one of the best Porsche Mechanics In Southern CA. Rick and Penny hired me when I was just 19 and Rick took me under his wings and trained me to work on Porsche,Mercedes, and BMW. I stayed with your Brother for six years, almost till the end and I can tell you I miss Rick and Penny so much and truly wish RPS Automotive could have stayed alive and kept going. If I knew then what I know now I would have stayed with Rick and fought to keep RPS. I tell you I miss working on such beautiful cars and if you ever need a Mechanic, and or help I would be honored to work for you. Rick and Penny were like my Parents to me while I was at RPS and truly miss them a lot. Just miss the work he did and the awesome cars and modifications we did. I guess building bitching cars runs in the Norris blood. Outstanding work and beautiful car. Congrats on visiting Jay Leno, witch I love watching and I can't get enough of the cars Jay puts out on his show.
Anyone else notice him cut the Toyota Tacoma off pulling out of the parking lot
Yup! lol
Yup! And notice how he takes up two lanes sometimes or pulls over when theres no should! LOL Its Jay, he gets a free pass!
the truck driver gave him a couple of toot on the horn while Jay was trying to find the gear. Or was the engine hesitating a bit.... LOL
Seemed to me Jay was honking his horn at the Alfa driver who was waving on the left.
those engines have no balls down low, people give them way too much praise.
Didn't Mark freak out when you turned out in front of that Toyota SUV at 10:58? :-)
Typical BMW driver ... LOL
I bought an inka orange, 1976 BMW 2002 brand new in 1976. I owned and drove it for twenty years. It was the finest car I’ve ever owned or driven.
Beautiful restomod. My compliments to the chef. GREAT JOB !!!!!!! Magnificent !!
The 70's were a great time for BMW's! I'm in love with the csi's!
Adriano's Classic 500 Those csi's are really stunning cars.
those things were monsters
my grandpa has a 3.0 csi he got new from the dealer... if I can convince him I'll make a review ahahaha
+1 on them CSi's... Need one!!!
They were great cars, but rust buckets.
you talked the costumer out of putting A/C in his car to keep it orginal but you put a fake m2 badge in the back....
Hahahaha
S14 converted 02's were called M2's for 20+ years.
+Juan Carlos
AC would add weight to the car and then it would change the whole characteristics of the car. Then there would need to be controls for the AC.
The badge is just a badge and does not change the driving characteristics of the car.
you obviously arent a real car guy
*customer*
A "costumer" is someone that's in to Cosplay...
I love this BMW 2002. It's one of my fave Beemer's and I've always wanted to do one myself.
What a beautiful 2002!!!!! Great job! You guys make me want to move to Cali!
2002 one of my all time favorite rides. In fact I owned one for 12 years. Mods are ok if they improve things but the mufflers on this one belong on a Honda Civic in the high school parking lot.
Quit hating. You belong in a high school parking lot with this attitude. You’re destroying the car community with these comments. If that’s how he likes the car then so what. Keep your comments to yourself!
@@andrewm8734 Just like you can have your opinion, he can have his.
I owned one as well, did some suspension mods and that made a huge difference in its handling. This one is a really fine set up, but I agree, lose the exhaust and the M2 badge, they do not belong on this car.
Antonio Farina that’s pretty cool. They always reminded me Fiat 124.
Dudes way to old to have fart box exhaust, must be midlife crisis. =)
Jay, most Alpinas here in Europe are most certainly Manual.
simes205 defenatly
@@gojdartamas34 Definitely
In 1971 I bought a brand new 2002 from a BMW dealer in New Rochelle, N.Y. I think I paid about $2700.00 for it. It was Malaga (Maroon) with black interior. At 21, I loved driving that Bimmer on the roads in upper Westchester County and yes, it was a chick magnet!. Later on I added Koni shocks and wider wheels to improve the handling even more. One day my Dad, a WWII vet, came to the dealer with me. He was looking at some new Bimmers on the lot. They were coated with a wax-like protectant for shipping. The service manger Kurt, a native of Germany, was talking with us. Dad commented on the coating on the new cars and said "before the invasion we had to coat all of our vehicles with cosmoline to protect them from the salt water. Kurt replied "Ja, ve did za same sing too" Dad and Kurt just looked at each other for a moment and may have been wondering if they had ever looked at each other through their rifle sights. It was something I will never forget.
Jay, I really wish that you would be able to feature a 1972 BMW 3.0CSi or a 1972 BMW 2800; these cars were iconic in the early 70's and are still loved today. This was the time when BMW really stood out and producing very noticeable larger sports sedans. I always enjoy your Garage especially today, the one where you are working as a valet.
i need to stop reading youtube comments they ruin everything
The boring moaning tards that plague these comments sections are the people i now dont go to car shows to avoid.
@@krusher74 I still go to car shows but I hear you
Is Jay stoned in this episode?
@@w.s.soapcompany94 your commentary is why I still read the section.
@@renato8473 I just re-watched first half of this video. I stand by my observation; he is either smoking or popped a xanex.
Jay, it's 2 AM, are you up? I need to borrow the Stanley to get to work tomorrow.
LOL!!!!!!!
Alfred Valrie not gonna lie. This struck me a really funny.
Drove one with the s14, funny how the car is so good to drive that the extra power didn't really make me feel that mine was missing something. It's a great chassis that helps you use the power you've got entertainingly and effectively. I doubt I will ever own a car as good unless I find another 2002. Thankfully I found a close 2nd but this time I won't sell it.
That engine sounds brilliant. Driving it must give shivers down your back.
i like how this guy isnt afraid to disagree/correct jay
A beautiful and unique restoration for a unique classic.👌 Great ride and show! 👍
Thanks Jay. I like seeing the old bimmers fixed up
I had a friend when I was in college that had a tan TII with the sloppiness 4 speed. We had a blast putting it though it's paces in New Hampshire on dirt and snow covered mountain roads!
Jay always cuts people off, in every video haha
Dude I know lol
Gotta love this car, especially the Recaros. They were exclusive to the 320iS; regular 320i models didn't have them. The M3 engine and tranny just brings the best out of that car.
Thanks for sharing. Awesome upgrades, nicely done.
Jay's 2002 BMW was just amazing. I owned a 520 when I was stationed in Germany.
IT'S NOT HIS.
It's great that they did not go too far with the wheels. I hate it when they put 18-19 inch rims on cars from the 70s. It just kills the entire look of the vehicle.
Schmittpal Zippy Those wheels are 18 inch
ummm theyre 16"
***** Alpina wheels are in 18"
well he is either wrong about the width or diameter because they certainly dont make a 345 in 16" and those dont look like 345s by any stretch
He said 345s would be considered wide these days, not that it has 345s on it.
It's a strut tower bar it keeps the
I know what it does
Ooh I thought jay was gonna strangle him.
Jay words his questions so badly.
for real, he knows what it does, but a person like me who's getting started in the car world doesnt know what it does, so now I still dont know what it does, thanks to mr leno, ofcourse I can just go google it, but I could've learned it right away
@@aske___4533 it makes time travel possible
@@aske___4533 For real, a strut brace does absolutely nothing to make the 2002 chassis stiffer. When you look at how close the towers are to the firewall, they has more than enough torsional rigidity there. Not to mention, there is no lateral stress exerted at the top of the strut. Utterly pointless.
@@aske___4533 They do bugger all other than look pretentious on any car. The strut has a spherical joint, the brace has joints at each end, how can it possibly transmit any suspension load from one side to the other?
I had a brand new Polaris Silver 76 that was one of the best cars I've ever owned. At the time it was an INCREDIBLE car. Handled better, better economy than the majority of the American iron out there. I watch this occasionally to get all nostalgic over no longer having mine. Thanks Jay!
Love the way Jay pulled out right in front of that truck.
Probably had to keep up with the camera car in front. Wouldn't want the truck between them.
Quality build
"I think I like to add a resonator."
"Huh"
"I think I like to add a resonator."
BZZZZZZZZHHH
"Yeah" lol
Loud af
Fond memories on this one. My neighbor had one back indy day with a 6 cylinder. Header and weber's galore and it sounded nasty and ran like a scalded dog. He installed a cage and it was awesome. I got to be around of a lot of cool car's growing up indy 70s and 80s and so grateful, especially nowadays.
Great Job. What an amazing BMW 2002 with E30 M3 engine. Interior looks perfect too.
Proper 2002 didn't come with those seats, engine, flares, etc.
Why the hell would a/c matter.
you´re right but recaro did had seats for this model i remenber see them as an expensive extra ,never had ones the original seats were great if you put the back down they were really confortable to sleep in ,but the hand brake was very high
probably no room for ac
@@arfshesaid4325 they had an a/c if they choosed to but at the time no brand was releasing cars from factory with a/c, but it was available as an extra and being a european brand only the southern country´s of europe had the necessity of having A/C due to high temperatures around 40 degrees celsius for around 4 monthes ,so the heating system was good enough for most of the european country´s wich in the 2002 model you can see a deliver of air diferent from all other cars in europe, regards
they are not thinking about the car but the confort it could give you, and i live in one of the most dry and heat regions of Europe, this july it broke records ,all month the realfeel was everyday above the 40 degrees celsius, regards
@Zacharias KAPELLAKIS it´s a more sportive drive the 02´s , and the m3 engine wouldn´t fit but with the proper changes on the 2.0L engine block it would be faster and safer to drive ,it´s a very well designed car ,low driving position and large distance between transmition to the wheels, i transform a 1602 from 73 and it could not start rolling due to excessive power , only with 2x 50kg of concrete in the trunk ,this i was 16 and also my friends and it was given to me in mint condition but i destroyd it for colector´s and kept a powerfull rallye car ,we had all the machines we needed in the school we study wich had complete machinery to electrical work and mechanical ,we also used to built there kart´s with honda moto engines,normally 250cc´s, regards
Purist that contradicts himself in every other sentence :D
I was thinking that myself. "The original 2002 didn't have air-con." It didn't have every other fuckin mod you've put in it either you potato...
its a customers car not his own. if you watched the video the guy is basically saying he tried to keep it as pure as possible
The M2 badge didn't help his case either.
@Dondonian If you watched the video he said the customer asked for an AC and he talked him out of it. Seems to me the guy is just being lazy about the AC work. Either he's full of turd or he doesn't know the definition of the word pure. I'm gonna say it's the former.
Right. All that work, and he's lazy. You have your own shop?
I had a 1976 2002 in the 90's. Brown metallic, tan interior, sunroof. I loved that car.
Had a stock standard 2002 it was fantastic, fun to drive, great on a long raod trip, the only problem I ever had with it was it would get vapor lock on a hot summers day.
One hell of a BMW!
I love this .. Basically he just upgraded to double over head cam, 4 valve per cylinder; from 4 to 5 Speed (all BMW). Along with upgraded Seats, brakes and wheels. Very tasteful and not overdone. I always think resisting the urge to put a huge turbo or giant engine is such a class act. This show gets the Oscar Park award!
sounds great! thanks for sharing jay
My Dad had a bright yellow Alpina C2 convertible in the 90's. I remember the dogleg gearbox when I was at the wheel, pretending to drive!!! What times!!!! What a car! 2.7 straight 6 cylinder. Awesome for the time.
Love everything about this car! (but I'd remove that M2 badge)
juziu66 I agree, because it just makes the car seem ridiculous. Oh wait, never mind.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m ok with mods, as long as they are period correct. Otherwise why own one, just buy a newer BMW.
Restomods are like breast implants, sure they may look impressive at first, but after a few minutes they don’t feel or look right! LOL.
Agreed M2 👎
I dont like exhaust pipe going from the middle, but everything else is nice
@@Istatymas that's actually the stock location for some 2002 model years - at least on the turbo
@@Pmeyer1226 Some peeps just want a unique one of a kind. It’s their money.
Love the car, definitely one of my favorite bmw's
Thanks Marc and Jay!
Gorgeous lines on this car, especially the rear windows around the C pillar, the famous Hoffmeister Kinke
Ernest builds a BMW.
And succeeded!
I loved my 2002. Wish I had all these mods plus the AC! I bet they couldn't fit an AC with that engine...
Jay says, "when he drives a vintage car, he likes to feel the Soul of the car". That's my man.
I owned one of these in 1980 in silver too. I still miss that little car to this day.
jay, do the bugatti eb 110 pls
minus minoas
Please please please do the EB110 and the Porsche 959!
"Once you put it in fifth you don't even hear it" BRAAAAAAHHHH!
Cool car. I loved those 2002's
Sounds buzzy for my taste.
I can't wait till Mondays. I love your show.
The chemistry between them changes tangibly when Jay says he doesn't like the M2 badge. That guy probably thought it was such a thoughtful touch that he came up with.
every video is like "what brakes you use? Willwood. Jay's like "ohh yeah we use Willwood all the time!"
No Vintage Air--"We use them!"--in this car, to Jay's disappointment. He was pretty happy about the Dynamat, though.
So true. Nicely done.
4:14 lol
murry001 jay's dementia is coming along nicely
First he was high on brembo brakes now it willwood funny he does say it all the time
My introduction to the sports sedan was the April ‘68 Car & Driver article by David E. Davis “Turn Your Hymnals to 2002.” And I never looked back.
Great Video !!! I had 3 of these all 1976, and 2 out of the 3 had A/C.Great cars !!!
The rich-man's Datsun 510. Love it!
@Antonio Farina no it wasn't the suspension and underpinings is all copy of the 2002, the Datsun 4 and 6 cylinder of the era are copies of Mercedes I worked on all of those cars I know and I still own one 1973 20002 with the turbo flares and spoilers 5 speed trans and the same recaros
@@tonycavez don't you think the flares and spoiler should he reserved for actual 2002 turbos? Why didn't you use Alpina , or AC schnitzer style flares?
Would rather have the datsun 510
@@50MUSTANGMANLX haha have at it bro
Got two of them in my life. The last one, I owend 11 years. Never had a car for a longer time...
I had a '74 2002 tii, bought it new, and kept it 8 years. Loved it. Fjord blue, beautiful body style. And it had all the virtues that are mentioned in this video. Great visibility, responsive, comfortable, and plenty of trunk room. Took a lot of great trips in it, to the mountains, elsewhere. The only downside was that the cars did not come with factory A/C, which in my part of the country is mandatory. I put an aftermarket unit in it, and it was nothing but trouble, worked about half the time, front pulley scraping against the stabilizer bar when I braked. But I loved it anyway, although at high revs that four cylinder was noisy. BMW was just figuring out what Americans wanted, and corrected those flaws in subsequent models. Finally sold it to an aircraft mechanic, who did his own maintenance, and moved into a larger, more comfortable domestic. Fond memories. Part of my youth.
Loved this video Jay!!! Bavarian Workshop does great work. It's my goal to have Marc build a 2.5 with standalone EMS for my E30 M3 one day. Just need my current motor to go to heaven. Have most parts already!
Beautiful car...
Can you please review your W210 E55 AMG?
amir9693 we've been saying that for years
I had a business restoring 2002s back in the 90s. My cars used an improved M10 engine with either twin Solexes or Webers, (2002ti setup) 320i 5-speed conversion, 320i limited slip, 320i rear drum brakes, 528i front brakes, sway bars, improved stereo, and lots of soundproofing. They all had A/C. But I love what they did with this car. Just needs A/C.
11:01 thumbs up from a guy in a red Alfa. Priceless!!
I had a very fast 2002 back in the 80's 10to1 pistons 292 shrick camshaft dual webers close ratio 5 speed euro trans limited slip rear Bilstein gas shocks widebody BBS 15x8 rear15x7 front a guy I knew with an alfa wanted to race claiming his car was faster but never put his money where his mouth was one day caught him on a twisting road he sees me behind and floors it just to piss him off I passed him on a bend on the outside never bothered me again poor alfa ahahaha