BODE'S SECRET POSTGAME FORCE ECHOES - Star Wars Jedi Survivor
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These are really cool and only pop up after you finish the main story. They're actually extremely insightful and fill-in what Bode was doing throughout Cal's adventure.
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These are really cool and only pop up after you finish the main story. They're actually extremely insightful and fill-in what Bode was doing throughout Cal's adventure.
How did you get to keep that shirt because after that mission when I flew to the next planet instantly took it off
ââ@@nikorovella-hs9tl it's not the imperial shirt if that's what you mean. I don't remember if it was a stock option, but I got it early on and just changed the color to white
@@glp oh, OK I was confused I thought it was the imperial shirt from the imperial general because thereâs a mission where you dress up as a general and I thought you got to keep it somehow
@@nikorovella-hs9tl its the scrapper shirt, has a good white color option
All These all of them?
Bode: Singing to/about his dead wife, his voice audibly breaking with emotion.
Cal: practices his quickdraw on some plants and rocks
These echoes, to me, rienforce the idea that Bode's path very much mirrors Cal's. Survive the purge, trust no one, meet a woman who changes your path (Bode's wife for Bode, Cere Junda for Cal), and find something to fight for. Cal fights for freedom. Bode fights for his daughter.
In Fallen Order, we saw a "dark future" section where Cal surrenders to the Empire in order to save younglings. While he was able to change his fate, Bode surrendered to the Empire in order to save a "youngling" (his daughter). Both Cal and Bode end up using the dark side, and teaming up with others to achieve their goals. The main difference is that Cal wants to fight, while Bode has no real desire to fight; he only wants Kata to be safe.
When Cal fights him at the end of Survivor, he's essentially fighting a version of himself. Just a version that made a few different choices along the way.
How I viewed survivor's plot was like this, both Dagan and Bode represent different conflicts Cal faces. On the one hand Dagan is absolutely swallowed by his "code" that being his drive to go to tanalorr and do whatever. On the other hand Bode is trying to incite Cal to purely hold onto those emotional connections regardless of oath's. I think that in the 3rd game were gonna see Cal learn to balance both his code and his emotions. Not truly giving into one or the other.
NO the main difference is that Cal is a Jedi and he never ever thought of sacrificing innocents to save his "younglings"... Even the Dark Cal we saw last game was better than Bode.
@@alphamineron Cal himself says "The Order is gone. Time to leave it behind" in-game. So he essentially chose not to be a Jedi, because what he wants is something the rules of the Order would never allow to happen.
@@rippera45 idk about that. he does say that, but later when kata asks if heâs a jedi he still says yes
@@idrisali3947 Hard to call yourself anything else when there isn't a widely-accepted term for "former Jedi who still uses the Force and carries a lightsaber" in canon.
These are the ones you missed for the 100%.
- in Coruscant, near the Mantis.
- Observation Deck in Mountain Observatory, in the boss arena.
- Forward Control Tower, in Viscid Bog, in the escaping pods area.
Cool thought he was missing a few and after watching his video i see the only one i missed on tanalore, the one in the plant, been looking everywhere for it.
Can anyone please let me know what I am missing, I have 100%ed all aspects of the game with exception of this Databank Entry which since it doesn't show up on the map, must be one of the secret post-game ones. It's Databank 119, which is on Koboh, on Dredger Gorge. I currently have 16/17. Any ideas or feedback would be much appreciated.
@@guitarsparta It's in the mountain pass meditaion point, you can find it after the green shield.
@Wilton Soares I already got that one, that's Grock's body.
@@guitarsparta youâll find it in Dredger Gorge, donât know specifically but it should be there
When I first met Bode I actually assumed he was a spy since he was the ânew guyâ and kept having weird looks on his face at crucial moments, but my mistake was thinking he didnât have a daughter and that it was a lie. I just felt like he brought it up too much to prove he was a good guy.
I thought they were building him up to be killed with how much he talked about family, yknow? Ive seen them do that in TV shows so its really impactful
That's the same thought I had, especially towards the end of the story, he just kept name dropping her way too much - I thought, "yeh, she doesn't exist". I had a feeling he was going to betray Cal, but the reveal was great. Honestly, such good character development, and the post-death senses, they had so much more context to his choices.
Definitely immediately thought he was a spy too.
I thought Bode was going to be a Han Solo-esque character but specifically for Cal
Honestly, same. As soon as he first mentions his daughter I thought, "You're gonna double cross me, aren't you?"
Bode and Kata singing together made me sad. Bode singing alone, changing the line to reference his wife broke me.
Iâve seen a lot of criticism towards the Bode twist but these force echoes handle it perfectly.
doesnât excuse the fact that his master plan was to just live on a planet alone with her until they both die. what a stupid end game
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 I mean he just wantts to survive, not help the fight against the empire. Why would he care about that? Also he could leave whenever with the compass
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Maybe if Cal heard those echoes before he burned his body heâd have dumped him in the trash instead
Can't really do that with kata in the crew tho...
@@tonyliu6749 yeah i know, for her sake I understand but I would not have blamed him if the thought crossed his mind after the fact lol
Heâd have*
@@gymshorts2tight382 youâre right
@@nathanmcandrew4778 No this is patrick
Credits Redpa: 452 : Coruscant : Behind the Mantis
453 : Koboh : On the small landing pad where Bode's Z-95 was (grey and red circle on the ground), next to the Mantis.
454 : Koboh : Outside Doma's shop
455 : Nova Garon : Denvik's office
456 : Koboh : Under the Mantis landing pad
457 : Koboh : In the escape pod area, at the very top of the Lucrehulk ship (after the boss fight area)
458 : Jedha : Next to the mantis, on the training dummy
459 : Koboh : On the ground floor of the Pyloon
460 : Koboh : Lucrehulk ship, near the second meditation point (I don't know how it was named in English, sorry), but, from the beginning, it's just after the first elevator
461 : Koboh : Obsevatory, in the boss room
462 : Jedah : Archive, on the ground
463 : Nova Garon : In Bode's apartment
464 : Tanalorr : Where Kata was singing
465 : Tanalorr : Near Bode's Z-95, in a bush
I love you
I love you man, Thanks
Love bro
As soon as I heard kata sing the song while walking up the the temple, ik this whole story and it's end is gonna be a master peice. We heard this lullaby so much like other star wars music during the course of the game but I just thought it was a new sound track for the game until.you hear kata sing it it becomes more aware thay the song is as much as apart of the story as the characters. 10/10 game one of the greatest of all time
It's so clever and sweet the way they did it. The song relates to the game too, they are looking for the "Ghost Star" (Tanalorr)
Couldn't agree more. This games story was a masterpiece, and I genuinely felt for Bode and Kata both. The echoes show us Bode's intentions and thoughts about just wanting to keep his daughter safe, and then Kata singing Ghost Star was the icing on the cake. I didn't want to go fight this poor girl's misguided father. I had a feeling Bode wasn't going to make it, and I was very happy that Kata leaves with Cal. I really hope they do a 3rd game and she stays a permanent crew member.
I agree. I actually cried because I knew it was probably going to end badly and also remembering Bode sang with Kata it was just sad. It was strange how Kata wasnât sad about her Dad dying.
During my second playthrough, I realize when he was convincing Cal to get with Merrin ("Yeah, I hear Jedi swear off attachment"), he was manipulating Cal, not giving him advice. Easier to beat the man with fear of loss than a stoic with no attachments. Backfired, though, Cal's rage saved him in the end; he was capable of integrating his shadow, unlike the Jedi. Bode's mistake was assuming Cal was a Jedi, not an individuated force-user trained by Jedi.
I loved the complex story telling because Bodes loyalty was to his child as most of us would agree. I think cutting the deal with the Empire to betray someone ethical was his fatal mistake. I often wonder if he sincerely apologized to Cal and explained his disposition if Cal wouldâve let him go.
I think Cal wouldâve, on the way to Bode on Tanalorr he and Merrin both agreed they didnât want to kill him, if not just for Kataâs sake, then the fact that Cal truly saw him as a friend
I can understand everything up until killing Cordova and leading the empire to Cere. All he had to do was ask and they would have helped him. All those people did not have to die.
he betrayed cal for knowing whos killing his wifeïŒmaybe he led cal to the base because he going to kill that inquisitorïŒhe is a true family guy
@@JDog2656 cal and the others couldnt promise that empire wont find or when empire invasion they can holdïŒthen the only option for bode is running away by himself.and bode betray sere because he want to know who is respond to his wifes deathïŒand he must have his avenge thats a husband promisingă
â@@JDog2656 oh absolutely not. cal and cere both agreed to move hidden path to tanalorr, which means the planet will not be safe for long, and that was likely the only safe place bode saw for kata, so whatever loyalty he had to cal was gone the moment cal made that decision after killing dagan.
"Poor bastard's in love" yeahhhhhhh, I think bode got too nice of a funeral now.
And here I was feeling sad for him, damn Bode, of all the people you should had known that feeling
Thatâs what i thought, hearing him rehearsing what he felt like a friend would say to another friend shows how little Cal mattered to him, or any of them really. I guess for his daughterâs sake though
â@@nathanmcandrew4778 I think they did to some extent. He was planning to go to Tanalorr with them and not betray them until they got the hidden path involved in it
@@thekratosmeatrider Eh perhaps, unfortunately the ISB had his daughter so he wouldâve had to give them something to stay in their good graces. For all we know he was always gonna stab them in the back.
@@matthewriley7826 Who knows, Denvik had him planned to be undercover for way longer, but Bode blew the cover earlier case he didnt want Hidden Path involved in Tanalor, he probably realized if the ships started coming there it would be too late to do anything then.
I still have a question: how did Bode conceal himself in the force so well? I thought only Palpatine was skilled enough to stay in the shadows without severing his connection to the Force.
obi wan did it in that cw arc where he disguised himself as a bounty hunter. i guess it just takes a certain skill level, not that much though.
He has a daughter now. That gives him the edge, because "Family" Bode Torreto
Bode served as an intelligence operative in the Jedi Order, concealment has been part of his life since the beginning.
Bode did a bunch of stuff that wouldnât really show much signs of force-sensitivity, such as heavily relying on blasters, a weapon regarded as uncivilized by the Jedi, and was therefore unused by Jedi or Sith
Probably cut himself off from the force, luke did it and rey couldn't feel anything from him and well you know how that movie went
Maybe im crazy, but 6:16 sounds like it go very well with a specific Star Wars soundtrack⊠I just canât remember which one.
almost similar to Padme's theme while she and Anakin were in Naboo. But some bars don't fit the timing.
Honestly, I'm surprised anything to do with "Disney Star Wars" is still capable of writing something this good. Not only did they give us an actual sympathetic villain who was hiding in the background the whole time, but they had the balls to double-tap him when in most cases it's stereotypical good-guy behavior of just letting him/her go.
I felt bad for Bode. I really did. I mean, how many of you out there can't honestly say you wouldn't tap into the Dark Side, so to speak, to protect your children? And what I absolutely love is that despite his transgressions, I felt Cal understood that they're ALL victims of the Empire and thus still honored Bode with a funeral pyre next to Cere and Cordova.
This isn't Disney Star Wars. Technically it's EA Star Wars
You act like Star Wars hasnât made a single good thing since disney took over
The dark side almost destroyed his daughter.
@@all_out_tripp7220 Seriously, I'd argue some of the best stories have been in Rebels, the Jedi games, and Andor. Some things are hit or miss, but Star Wars has always been that way.
Your missing several. The escape pods in the raider base. The one at the hanger in Coruscant. The place where we had a final battle with a one-armed douche-Jedi. A few Iâm probably forgetting. I have 452-464. The one next to his ship on Tannlor is probably the last one.
I thought we just had a new cast at the beginning of the game, but when they all died and Bode flew off solo during the Coruscant TIE chase and came back unscathed, I knew something eas up
Since Tanalorr obviously couldnât house both bode and his daughter. AND the Hidden Path. Not like its a whole god damn planet.
The point was that Bode didnt want Refugees on the Planet case it would attract Empire suspicion, plus if more force sensitives came to the planet Vader would be on watch.
And as shown with Jedha all it takes is one rat revealing the secrets and the Empire is unto them, consideering this was still an era of Empire dominance Bode had some right to be afraid.
What he was foolish about was keep fighting even after Cal and co made it to Tanalor at that point it was useless to keep fighting.
â@@sebas8225 so selfishness then
Even after Anakin Skywalker, Degan Gera and Bodeâs selfishness disgusts me.
I guess we finally have a real example of why Jedi donât have wives and children.
I Don't even think it's that because kanan had Hera and he was cool. No, this is an example of toxicity to the max. Bode was only thinking about bode & his pain.
@@beck2752 Yes. Thatâs what Attachment is. Literally, the definition used in Star Wars media.
The Jedi are told to push aside their emotions instead of learning how to deal with them. That led to Anakin to make many decisions that led to the death of the Order. When that happened, many Jedi were learning how to deal with fears and impulses that they have never experienced. So many Jedi got what was coming to them. Here's to hoping that Cal and Merrin learn to grow with each other instead of each doing their own thing.
When Bode had Merrin in the grip of power, he was seen doing everything he could to save her. Cal just looked at Merrin and knew if he couldn't do anything he would never forgive himself. The only thing that could throw Cal off balance now is if Merrin dies. I hope in a possible sequel that won't be an option. In my opinion, Cal and Merrin's relationship is one of the best in all of Star Wars. Considering what Disney did with the last 3 episodes, the games should have been released as a movie. It's way more real than Padme and Anakin.
@@samparsons5867 Thats because Emotional control is the key to master force powers for the Jedi for the Sith itÂŽs Emotional outbursts as a means to express power unto others.
Having a family for force sensitives can be dangerous in that if the parents dont have enough emotional control they can abuse their force powers and do more damage than good.
6:16 gives chills
Anakin and Bode have similar motivations for turning to evil but I Consider Bode to be more sinister and manipulative than Anakin. He May have been âprotectingâ his daughter but he betrayed countless other Jedi and innocents to do it.
I even think in their final fight he was still trying to manipulate Cal via psychological warfare. He had no intention of sharing Tanalorr with anyone but with Kata. He deserved a far more painful death and no funeral.
thatâs completely wrong. what drove Bode to betray the group was their die hard âfight the empireâ approach.
Tanalor, if it was to be a haven for his daughter, could not be allowed to serve as a rebel base.
he knew there was no way to convince them to just use it as an isolated place of refuge, so he said fuck it, if they want war with the Empire so bad, let them have war, Iâm taking my daughter and leaving this hellhole of a galaxy.
@@fakename2926 the thing is thow is that it looks like cal really is gonna build it as refuge, As cere was doing jedha. That's literally the entire point of the ending... that's what meant when cal said he was gonna make something that would outlast the empire, not destroy it. So bode literally did all of this for nothing. Hell, it's looking more like bode betrayed cere because he wanted to find out who killed his wife. Everything he did was for himself and his own pain and kata was just tool for it as much as everyone else.
In all honesty I don't blame Bode for what he did. And if you really stop and think about it, all it would've took, was one Inquisitor to go undercover as a Jedi pretending to be fleeing from the Empire and being part of the Hidden Path. And that's all it would've took for the Empire to find the planet. He knew this, he knew that's all it would've taken for the Empire to find the planet. In a way it kind of goes back to why Cal decided to destroy that holocron in Fallen Order. He destroyed it because it be better not to gather them all in one place for the Empire to snatch them all, and to ensure they wouldn't be revealed to the Empire. With that logic what Cal was wanting was to unintentionally gathering all the Jedi survivors into one place for the Empire to come marching in. Because again all it takes is one Inquisitor or someone to go undercover for it to all go to hell.
He was not going to take that chance or risk, not when his daughter's future was at state. He already lost his wife and had to spend years kissing the ass of some Imperial Higher Up just to keep their identities a secrete from Vader. Like hell he was going to let the Jedi fuck that up with the chances of anyone of them could be secretly working for the Empire.
@@solidg3legend868 No matter how you look at it Bode's approach was still sinister and nothing short of evil. The game itself said that after the death of his wife he was a changed man. Throughout his steps he never showed an ounce of remorse and had no problem killing cal even if their friendship was fake. If you really can't blame him for what he did i don't think your viewing his psychotic traits especially since their were other ways he could have protected his daughter
â@@beck2752 no, remember after dagan? cal said they were gonna use tanalorr as a base to train and prepare to strike against the empire while bode said to use it just as a safehaven and cal rejected that idea, that is when bode decided to carry on with the betrayal. if anything he made cal change his idea.
There's one i know of that you missed. On the Lucrehulk. At the very top where the escape pods are.
Been a bit since i heard Uprising such a great choice of an outro song
It's interesting how half these Force echoes make you even more angry at Bode, and then others make you truly miss him, as well as feel betrayed yourself. If we were all being honesty with ourselves, we probably would have done the same thing to protect our own families, but it doesn't make it any less painful that he betrayed Cal, killed Cordova, and led to the killing of Cere. I just wished he had chosen a different path.
You're wrong, most people wouldn't sacrifice innocent people so my child. We are not monsters. Bode almost killed Kata 3 times in the game. Just like Anakin killed Padme by breaking her heart.
WOW, just finished watching the full game walkthrough yesterday, then found this to cap it off. What an amazing story. How do the game producers write so well, but we get absolute garbage spin-offs on tv? This would have made an epic tv series.
You missed one,itâs when u go back to Dagenâs boss fight location and thereâs an echo of Bode taking Dagens lightsaber for himself in case he had to use it on cal
You missed one, I think. In Dagan's lab, Bode picks up his lightsaber.
Bode's actions brought out the Darkside within Cal. He's about to see the end results. Thanks to anyone who reads this. [Reposted]
Bode is broken the moment he lost his wife. He has no choice but to turn to his old handler to protect his daughter Kata.
When he found cal. He is initially wanted to use him and control him, but soon consider otherwise once he learn about tallonor and maybe he has a chance out of this. He was almost on the verge of spilling the beans and come out frank with cal but it all turn to dust when during the battle with dagan.
Dagan force powers affected him so much that it broke bode completely even though it is fake. Thatâs the part when he went ahead and commit his betrayalâŠ.
A damn traitor is _still_ a traitor, even if they procreated themselves...đ€Ź
"No...he was a father"
@@granalmirantethrawn2972 Seriously, worst character arc ever...Bode could have joined Cal, Cere and Merrin on Talanorr, but no...that prick was written in the most back-stabbing way possible...đ
@@Gothead420 you are the one who is not seeing the bigger picture, he literally considered it and saw why it was a bad idea in the game, don't you remember the "you had the path to Tanalorr, and you were gonna give it to a bunch of strangers?" part?. He was not wrong, Cal giving access to more and more Jedi/force sensitives was destroying the secrecy of Tanalorr, eventually the empire would had found a way of going to the place, either by following them or by putting an spy among the refugees (literally another Bode) He wasn't gonna put his chance of giving her daughter a peaceful life by helping strangers, Cal and company were trustworthy, but the rest of the hidden path?
â@Gothead420 Also gotta remembr that the dark side has a way of warping your point of view. Take Anakin as an example.
â@@granalmirantethrawn2972 daughter or not, bode was a piece of Sith until his very end. Sure, he wanted to protect his daughter, that's understandable, but if you gonna deal with the literal devil, like he did, it will bite you
I canât believe Bode was betrayed Cal and kill Cordova.
Cordova was done mad dirty, he deserved so much better
â@@nathanmcandrew4778 brought him back just to kill him in the worst way possible, with his padawan following soon after
Bode os the type of guy who would walk off to pass wind.
You missed one. Thereâs one on the landing pad back on Coruscant where Bode makes contact with Denvik after first integrating himself into Calâs team
Thank you so much, this helped me find the "Brothers" echo, it was the only one i was missing!!!!
what ones have you got
@HenryPlays Where did you find databank 457?
@@AxroraYT thatâs the same one iâm looking for
â@AxroraYT I believe it's the forward control tower, where was the location of the brothers echo?
@@blackout4951 it was in the lucrehulk area
wish you'd have opened the databank so we could read the description. - thanks for this tho!
It is sad that all of the jedi that fell was either because they couldnât learn to let go or were afraid .
I guessed Bode was a spy, but not a jedi. The echoes really made him a bigger character and showed just how manipulative he was.
Great video, but youâre missing one. Itâs at the Escape Pod hull on the Lucrehulk Core.
Im missing entry 461, pretty sure its the last one i need for Bode, at 92% on his section of the databank, but it doesnt seem to be in this guide?
461 is in the observation deck where you fight Dagan for the final time. It will be your last one, I had 92% then got my last one and am done now
Call me insenstive, monster or whatever you want, but these post game echos Cleared my hestation regarding killing Bode. He came to the empire. After they killed his wife he would have done anything to avenge her death. He used Kata as an excuse to commit atrocities. He wasnât forced. He wasnât influenced. He did it for himself and he was lying to himself about doing it for anyone else. He was a traitor. Iâm glad we got to kill him execution style and Iâm glad his daughter saw the monster he became. We lost good people because of his pride.
I agree. It is kinda sad that you realize why the game is called Survivor.
Out of all the 5 Jedi in this game(Cal, Cere, Cordova, Bode and Dagan), Cal is the only survivor.
I would count Vader and the Ninth Sister also since they're former jedi also and the Ninth Sister did die
I don't think basically saying Bode cared nothing for his daughter as nothing but a cudgel is doing the character justice. He's a pretty interesting well rounded character. A tragedy, not something evil and sinister. As we see from the databank coupled with the echoes, he shows hesitance, and even thinks of ways to get Cal on his side so he doesn't "have to" betray him. Obviously he's still at fault, but it's clearly showing his thought process. Not an evil cunning and manipulative individual but someone who is feeling like he's backed into the wall. Though that wasn't the case, Bode certainly felt it was.
Whereâs the location for 3:15? I canât figure out where it is?
Edit: NVM I found it. Itâs right next to the Hangar Rafters Meditation Point on Korboh.
I can understand why hes doing it but at the same time he brought his death on himself, he clearly didnt entirely want to betray Cal but his daughter took priority
only a few know that in the santhari khri observatory, where the main fight with dagan was, there is another echo that the person who makes the video probably does not know about
Ooof. 4:52 If a guarantee for vengeance was coupled on top of security for Kata, good lord. Idk. Bode is not the heel, from a certain point of view...
Can you do an updated version whwn you find all of them?
Where is the one at 3:16 i cant tell exactly where to find it.
Anyone know where databank 452 is? Seems like everyone has it but me
Found it, behind the mantis at the coruscant landing pad
5:13 I have a bad feeling that it was the Second Sister.
Where is the location of the one after the one outside Doma's shop?
Does anyone know where databank 457 is for Bode's Story? It's the only one I am missing and it's actually driving me crazy
I believe forward control tower
I'm missing the exact same one.
@@blackout4951 It was there, tyvm!
@@blackout4951 Hey mate, do you happen to know where are the characters databank #085 and #086? Those are the only ones I'm missign for 100% databanks.
Now I feel really bad for Bode
Even though he fucking killed my man Eno Cordova. đ
@@wetube6513 Out of desperation and the trauma he went through during the purge
No excuses for murder.
â@@MrWill9002 Nahhh
Bode is the type of guy who would walk of to pass wind. Can't trust someone like that.
Bro! Bode and kata singing is making me shed real man tears right now
I've gotten every echo mentioned in this video and I only have 78% on Bodes story, I don't know if my game is bugged or not but I'm having a tough time.
He missed 3 in this video. Someone commented where they are near top comment
...Denvik is voiced by Gideon Emery, isn't he?
Sounds like him
Yes he is.
I know this is off topic but I really envy people playing on this high fps. I literally have a 2070 and its barely getting 30 fps
do these appear in ng+
I liked Bode until the moment he turned why couldnât he have come clean to Cal and told him the truth heâd of understood and helped rescue Kata along with Merrin and Cere could of used Cere as a âprisonerâ to infiltrate the base with Cal and Merrin disguised as stormtroopers
Its a shame how many people completely miss the point of bodes arc and basically just ignore all the reasoning they go into great detail of giving you.. meanwhile anakin does the exact same things (quite a few even worse) yet nobody bats an eye at him even though they very much mimic each other
It's not that we ignore it, we know where his story goes. Bode was brand new and let's just say he had the ample opportunity to do the right thing without killing one anyone. He wasn't lied to by the other Jedi. He wasn't treated badly by Cal, Cere or Cordova unlike Anakin with other Jedi. He chose to be selfish to protect his daughter and sacrifice the lives of many for himself. Vader/Anakin was manipulated, Bode was the Manipulator in this. That's why a lot of people don't feel bad about his death. He very much intended to betray Cal from the very beginning.
â@@MultiBigJC tbf he was still strung along by the ISB, though he did strike the deal himself.
In fairness to Bode, he was deep in the dark heart of the Empire. Anakin was not, even with the flaws of the late Jedi Order.
Anakin fell victim of The Emperor's schemes and had final redemption by saving Luke. Bode only fell victim of his own manipulations which led him to the dark side and refused to redeem himself even when everyone gave him a second chance.
@@user-sm6gn3nl6o not every character is made to have nor should every character have a redemption arc, some people are just truly lost and can't come out of their own head, bode falls into that
Kata held up. Well for. Her dad ring murdered. Like 200 feet from her đ. Then living with killer.
Kata knew what kind of man Bode was, she saw Cal &Merrin give him multiple chances. She is beter off with them.
U missed on in coruscant at the hangar
Maybe show where their located�
if only bode more honest and open to cal and crew. there wont be betrayal and they didnt need to diedđą
And tell Cal what? That heâs the reason his crew at the beginning are all dead?
Sweet Katarn outfit
The journey of the traitor
First time hearing someone say âB*stardâ in Star Wars
few times now. In Mando, I think Finn said it, along with Marvaa in Andor
dude I was looking for someone else who noticed that
u missed 2 or 3
0:50 Yep He Dead â ïž
what location is at 3:15? i can't place where that is
It's in the droid battle ship, after the first elevator.
â@@WJAMSoares location ??
@@kazanox22 I'm not close to the PS now, but it's the doid battle ship, the one that you fight Rayvis, from the second meditation point in that area you just take the elevator up, you can see the canisters there.
@@WJAMSoares OK thanks bro
Map locations would have helped. đ
The only one I don't know the location is Brothers, 3:15
Next to the Hangar rafters meditation point
@@LastLanParty Thank you!
i like that they try to flesh out his motivations, but i still dont think what bode did, and the reasons for why he did it, really check out. feels like the game also realizes this and tries to play it both ways there. that he was spying on them the whole time, but kinda actually wanted to switch sides up until cal wanted to bring the hidden path to tanalorr with them and start rebuilding. but then that doesnt really match with the way he does it, and leaves him with a very weird motivation at the very end. actively putting kata in danger every chance he gets with the explanation that thats the only way to keep her out of danger? he just straight up doesnt make any sense at the end there.
It really feels like a last minute rewrite.
If Cal brought the hidden path there and had an anti imperial movement there then that meant there was a slight chance people Bode didnât personally know as well as Cal and his crew could slip up or betray them to the Empire and lead them to Tanalorr, meaning Kata is not truly fully safe there, for Bode it was all or nothing, either Kata is completely safe, or she isnât, and that is why though he had his doubts, Bode went through with betraying Cal, he didnât want to, I think he truly liked him, but he could not let there be even a small chance that Tanalorr could be found and Kata in danger, Iâll agree they could have made this more abundantly clear, but through all the lore, these echoes, and by trying my best to understand, I am absolutely sure this is what is true, and what the game meant to be portrayed
@@TheCoyoteGray i feel like they did make it clear, i just think that it didnt fully check out. i also dont think it was alate rewrite or anything like that, pretty sure that was going to be his ark from the beginning.
just the fact that they set it up like he was working for denvik but kinda always looking for a way out of that situation. and then when they find out about tanalorr hes like "hey, this could be it.". and to go from that to "ah, shucks, better to just betray everyone, pont them all at each otehr while i live out my life with my daughter on this world all by ourselves with no one being able to follow" based purely on the fear that sharing it with other refugees holds a potential threat of future discovery?
that means putting your daughter into absolutely certain mortal danger right the f now instead of maybe, hypothetically in the future. i mean, if youre doing risk management then hes doing it all wrong, to the point where youd have to wonder at how he even ever made it that far. just left him at a weird place in terms of motivation at the very end for the same reason. blatantly risking her life right now out of fear that they might not be able to protect her later? that whole final stand made very little sense at that point. just my opinion, though.
@@erbgorre Him putting his daughter in danger actually makes sense thematically. He fell into the same trap that Dagan did, becoming so obsessed with Tanalorr and the safety it could provide that he got tunnel vision and didn't really notice what he was doing (Putting his daughter in danger). Notice that one of the dialogue lines he says during his boss fight is 'This is *my* home' which mirrors Dagan's possessiveness of Talanorr. Also keep in mind that your average dark side user often acts on impulse so him just flying by the seat of his pants makes sense in a way
â@@erbgorre the betrayal in theory made sense, just poor execution since he didnt make sure everyone died. what Cal wanted basically guaranteed that tanalorr wont be safe forever, and bode was desperate at that point for tanalorr to be the safety place for kata, there isnt really a better option for his goal. I mean, Cal wouldnt have decided to use the place as a refuge only if the whole betrayal arc didnt happen, they all thought they would use the place as a base to fight back at the tea party.
If they make a third installment I think it would be a pretty cool idea if the main villain was The Inquisitor that killed Kata's mother, let's see who it could be
Definitely not the grand inquisitor
Don't think it's the second sister
Neither the third sister
Not the fifth brother
Or the sixth brother
Nor the seventh sister
Like hell it would be the eighth brother
Ninth sister, nope
Tenth brother, definitely not
And the three unnamed inquisitors, two that were killed by Darth Vader and one that was insta-killed by ahsoka
I think it might be the fourth sister
What do you guys think?
We don't know anything about the Third Brother so probably him
i think i would like for it to be the 4th sister too since we barely have any info on her
or the two unknown inquisitors that vader killed are getting their own book soon and it would be neat if they fit that into the story somehow.... actually now that i think about it, the red chick already had a moment in the comics where she deliberately betrayed a mother trying to protect her force sensitive child and jedi husband, it would make sense to see her do it again lol imma say it was her (unfortunately then it couldnt be a villain in the next game tho lol)
No thanks Bodeâs story has been told.
I wished Dagan Gera is served as a final boss instead of Bode.
Nah vader shouldâve been the final boss
I don't. I liked that the final boss was an emotional one rather than brute power
How? Dagan is a relic of the past, stayed in the light for so long, so hard, that he didn't see the shadow he cast.
Bode was the right boss for this fight. He showed how desperate a man gets to protect his little one. Its ingrained into every father
Yeah bode shouldâve sacrifice toward endgame but nope đ
They couldâve still made it an emotional ending, Dagan couldâve played the good Jedi roll using them, and teasing the dark side until he eventually disagrees with their plans and fully betraying them
I need data log #461 please help
It's in Observation Deck in Mountain Observatory, in the boss arena.
@@WJAMSoares Thanks!
First and nice vid
is this all of them? i have all of these but my data bank only says 92%
Not sure, these are the only ones I could find.
@@glp does yours say 100%?
@@emil7453 hmm just checked, my "Bode's Story" databank is at 78%. So you have all these same ones and no extra ones? Perhaps it includes scans as well
@@glp there is one at Grand Oculus
@@glp there MUST be one at the site of their duel on Jedha but I can't for the life of me find where that is in this damn desert!
EDIT: theres one where you defeat dagan
4 weeks ago
he doesnt deserve the funeral... just a shot.. I liked that scene. Rayvis had a warrior death and deserved this,. not him! he's a bastard traitor, just a shot.. why a funeral?
The funeral was for his daughter.
@@bigkahuna5477 maybe yes. but he gave him his laser sword.. why?
Alternate reality where Charles was the rat
Who's Charles? You mean Bode? SCRAP RAT.
That's not all of them
Bode did not deserved a funeral
For his child's sake, he did
â@@jpf7942 not even for his child, who he almost killed twice
The Bode Character in Jedi survivor is nothing but a Snitch that needed to be put down no matter what after the decisions he made towards the mantis Crew. đ€·đŸââ
The guy could have joined the team & figured out a way to get his daughter from the Empire then all escape to Tanalor together but instead he wanted to all turn into a "Fake Darksider" & betray everything in that manner.
He is no Anakin Skywalker , nothing that he did against the Mantis Crew was just , acceptable or understanding in my eyes.
Iâm not even a Jedi fan but even I empathised with Cal Kestis plight here in this game because he didnât deserve to get did dirty like that đ€ŠđŸââïžâïž.
Bode you were such a stupid final last boss antagonist!!!!!!!
You listened to these soo out of order lol
now we gonna have to hear this trite ass ghost star song in the next game too
I didn't like him from the beginning. It disappointed me that they had Cal middling towards the dark side then had him give Bode a quick death. I wanted to go full Maul on him after the events earlier.
Bode being the final boss was stupid, I liked the Dagon Gera guy
buu huu for you
@@3266393 itâs spelt *boo hoo get it right
Story wise I think it makes sense. Cal has an emotional connection with Bode, being his friend and someone he trusts so their fight is more emotional centred. Bode is also technically the main villain since he was playing Cal the entire game
Tbh I liked the twist because I totally expected it to be Dagan originally, and then that was that for the story after his death. What would be good now is if Cal / Kata find out who the Inquisitor that killed Bogan's wife is in the next game.
Theyre both Ă ssholes, both deserving to get slapped silly with little regard for their whys and wheres.
Selfish assholes who went on to betray and murder or cause murder for their own distorted ends, just like anakin. Handing them a free pass is an insult to others who lose everything and still keep picking themselves up and going on to serve others and not just themselves, at the cost of losing again. Like cal and any other decent people. Didnât like this second entry, both technically and story wise, felt it was rushed and not so engaging like the first one. High republic is just not interesting the real problem was the empire and it was so marginal for most of the time. They have a lot to improve if they want to make a third one.
heâs so 1 dimensional. canât believe he was the final villain
The first game was better, with a more compelling storyline. Stills a good game, but an inferior sequel. I am not sure why people are surprised about the death of certain vital characters in this one. Everything is going with the flow of the storyline of episode 4, a new hope. As much as I like Cal Kestis's character, he will die in the next one. Perhaps at the hands of Vader
The game started strong, and discovering the one-arm-corrupted Jedi was intriguing and a wow moment. Jetpat Boy had a villain vibe from the start. I didn't think he was the main villain.
Am I the only one thinking Bode was a moron and an awful choice for the final boss?
Me too
I think it was a fine conclusion to a game called Jedi Survivor lol. It matches with the general story trajectory.
Dagan was a lot more interesting than Bode. âFather does anything to protect childâ is such an overdone trope especially in video games after TLOU
Do you even remember Dagan's motivation? I loved him but he wasn't as deep as I thought he would, he's basically Anakin from THR(something I hope they use further)
@Julian âJulesâ R I feel the opposite, Cal and Bode are more similar, have lived similar things, and they deal with the same questions about the future, definitely more potential to see different sides of a same type of character. Dagan is awesome but he's more of a "badass boss", he kinda feels out of place in the current time, and he's at the end of the day just a Taron Malicos 2.0(not saying that he's a bad antagonist, just saying that he works more as a secondary obstacle than an enemy for character development as Bode)
@Julian âJulesâ R Valid opinion, though I don't feel that either, once they defeat the "fake final boss" you think it's over, but surprise, Bode is a traitor (the fact that you don't see it coming is what makes it better, he's that good of a spy, and the game's trailer supported the fake image) then he does all the damage he can get to Cal and company, after that we see his real background/motivation to feel something more than hate towards him(if it works it will depend on the player) and then, final battle. I think that's enough, introduction, development, conclusion.
And then you have the force echoes after the game to complete the missing parts like "where was he during x event?" "How did he know x thing?" "When did he decide to make his x move?" Extra info
@Julian âJulesâ R the lore in the books is amazing as well. Especially the main books of phase 1(can't judge phase 2 cause I haven't read them, and I'm not that interested in it at the moment ) but yeah, they did a good job adapting it.
As for Bode, what else could have they done with him? He reached the point of no return at the end, his motivations were logical but he lost his way. His fear beat him, a battle not many Jedi truly won
â@@granalmirantethrawn2972 he wanted to go back to tanalorr and maybe start a new jedi order amd take over the galaxy.
This game has crappy storytellingđ
ok, care to elaborate or are you going to be one of those people that just drops ignorant statements and walks?
@@MrJakeros Pretty sure it's just proving itself as an example of the second one. Like all attention starved trolls.
@@Spiralpaladin So it would seem. Such a pitiful species.
I knew this clown would turn when at the start of the game he said he has a daughter but doesnt get to see her and the mother is not alive. these writers are getting lazy and predictable..............
Bro what are you on about
â@@nicomicho4669 it's just another one of them cringe lords, believing "I saw/predicted a particular trope coming" equals "the writers are lazy and the story is bad", which is not how storytelling works đ