2019 New Yamaha 40 HP 2 Stroke Power Tinny Review
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- čas přidán 9. 04. 2019
- Snag'd Ep. 13.
I've just done a re-power of my 440 Apache Stessl from a Yamaha 30HP 2 Stroke to a 40HP 2 Stroke. The difference is amazing.
The 30HP weighed in at 55kg, the new 40HP weighs in at 84kg.
The power to weight ration is great on both but the 40HP has a lot more grunt. The 40 has 3 carbies and 3 cylinder where as the 30HP had only 1 carbie and 2 cylinders.
The 40HP top speed (remembering I am still running in the motor) is 50km/h. The top speed in the 30HP was 40km/h.
Flathead was caught using a Berkley Nuclear Chicken 5"and they work that well it was only the 3rd cast!
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That engine has been made for decades! It's a very easy motor to maintain!
I don't know the whole history of that engine, but I do know they are extremely reliable when routine preventative maintenance is done, with ethical safe operation. I bet a lifetime of use!
Reliable as well
I'm glad you mentioned the weight difference of 35 kg ,( 77 lbs ,) between the 30 and 40 HP versions. I want to run twin engines but the 70 kg ( 154 lb ) extra weight of two 40 HP versus two 30 HP engines is too much. Looks like twin 30 HP for me with a different high speed propeller because i don't need the torque when using two engines. I guess i will have to live with the higher noise of the 30.
Nice engine,specially this lever to trim down.
Congratulations on the upgrade boss! Another nice vid :)
I’ve got some upgrades vids coming up on my Yak too lol
Thank you ma man! How nice are upgrades haha - I wish they happened more often. I'd be keen to see your yak upgrades!
Awesome!
Just bought the same setup. Great video thanks
Nice. Same boat and motor? I've been enjoying the set up for a while now. Can't complain about anything.
now you need a stainless prop and electric trim and tilt my dads got a 02 mercury 50hp 2 stroke on his 4.45 quintrex does about 60kph had it since 2002 boat and motor still looks brand new and starts first turn key
Great vid 👌
Quality fishing content
I am going from a 25 HP 4 stroke Yam 2021 to a Merc 40 2021 next month on my 16 foot soft inflatable. Yam does not have a 40 in short shaft :( I top out at 34K now, CANT WAIT!!! .... to see what I reach on the 40HP
Good stuff dave, im looking at an Apache myself cant decide if i want to stick with 2 stroke which or go 4 stroke only want 4 stroke because apparently most impoundments wont allow 2 strokes
Thanks legend! Yeah lots of impoundments don't let you in with a 2 stroke.
If I was buying again I'd buy a 4 stroke but Max out the HP according to the boat.
I quite like my apache, one down side is storage isn't the best. But that can be fixed with some framing, timber and a bit of welding.
Which prop size did you use and how much weights boat aline without engine?
Nice bro 😎😎😎
I'm about to do the same, and this just made my mind up. Was looking at a fourstroke but way too expensive, found a 2012 model like yours with low hours. I too have a 30 hp as well and on a 4:3 mt tinny its just too underpowered. Thanks for the upload. Whats the fuel economy like?
Great decision. The 30hp is way underpowered and a bit more noisy. The 40hp 2 stroke is much quieter and a lot more powerful. Plus the weight of a 40hp 2 stroke is much lighter than a 4 stroke. Fuel economy is around 15 litres per hr.
Hey mate, been posting under my wifes account unwittingly , haha! Rod is my name. So, got the motor about a month ago, love it, holy it goes hard! Super quiet for a two stroke. Only thing I dont like is the gear lever on the tiller arm, gets in the way from holding the throttle comfortably. They should have put it on the other side of the handle I reckon, but still I'm stoked!
@@rachelcrossland9622 yeah the 40hp 2 stroke is definitely worth the upgrade. She gets on the plane so much easier. I must say, that gear lever hasn't really bothered me yet! I'm glad you upgraded from the 30hp...the difference is incredible haha. Well done!
Thank you
I noticed it did have a kill cord, I thought you would have used it, but apart from that, it is a nice informative video.
Hi im intetested on intalling the Gas Assist Ram to my 2010 40hp stroke engine but my engine doent look like yours!!! Coul you pleas send me photos or a video of the gas assist trim set up to see if i could install one to mine...?!?!?!
Nice motor. I'm looking for one atm. The gas assist lever looks hard to reach from driving position. How do you find it?
It is a little hard to reach but doesn't bother me much. Only use it when I'm coming into shallow water or boat going on trailer.
Hey mate do you have a battery onboard for your nav lights/accessories and how do you charge it? Do you know if the 40hp 3cyl has charging capabilities out of the box or do you need to add a regulator/rectifier? Looking at purchasing a boat with the same motor but no electronics at this stage. Cheers
The motor can charge a battery but you need to buy that gear separately and plug it into the motor.
I use a 100 Amp/Hr AGM battery for all my electrical gear including my minn kota. I always charge it up when im finished on the water with a ctek 7Amp smart charger (i leave it on charge and it trickle feeds the battery so it's always at 100%)
Great. What is the length and width
Great vid, but quick question what boat in that?
Stessl Apache 440 - Great boat
Nice video mate and ripper boat... i just bought a brand new Quintrex 420 Busta with a Yamaha 30hp 2 Stroke, and it was good but ive just sold it and purchased a brand new Yamaha 40hp 2 stroke, with electric start, power trim and tilt, cant wait... hoping the extra cubes and cylinder will make this thing hammer.. get it fitted next week! Yew! Cheers mate.
That 420 Busta is going to hammer! I reckon you'll hit 55km/h - let me know. I'm glad the video was some use for you. I'm loving my 2 stroke hey. I was talking with a guy who owns a 50hp 4 stroke Mercury fitted to the same sort of boat as mine, and I get about 5km/h more speed. 👌👌
@@snagdfishing yeah i agree mate, cant beat the snap of a 2 stroke! Thanks mate once its fitted il post a video to my wall, im curious my self. Do you know what pitch prop you are running? Cheers
Can you share a bit on the gas assisted lift you showed at 3:01. Is that only for the Yamaha 40hp or a third party part? Thanks
Comes standard with the 40hp yammy
Hey mate what pitch prop are you running on the new 40hp motor ?
11 3/8 x 12-G
What a shame i cant put a 40 on my savage 4.18, i would love the extra hp great plug
How to you prime/choke this motor?
Hi i have just bought same outboard and was wondering what 2 stroke oil you use and what petrol to oil ratio. Thanks
I use the Yamaha 2 stroke oil and the ratio I use (which was recommended) is 50:1. I've heard of others using a ration of 100:1 but that's not recommended. Such a good motor. Hope the review helped!!
I also have the same outboard and use the yamalube 2stroke oil 50:1
Nice Motor, you know haw many lbs less has over 4 stroke? Enjoy you new motor!
Hey, this motor is 180lbs and a 40hp 4 stroke is 220lbs. So about 40lb difference in weight.
What do you use for the editing?
Hey, I use Adobe Premier Pro for all my editing. I find it works really well, keeps things pretty simple but allows me to do some more complicated stuff as well.
im so glad iv got the 40 yam 2 stroke to oil injechion and elc tilt in tiller 125 bucks for a servece kit from e bay so cheep and nuthen like the power ov a 2 stroke pushing my 429 stacer verry qwick
I might look into the electric trim and tilt. That would be a game changer.
Hey mate, would love to find one of these in good shape. Do you happen to remember how much they were new in the day? cheers for vid
I paid $4200 including a 24lt yamaha fuel tank from memory. Not bad value. I've still got it and it's been reguarlarly serviced from yamaha as well 👌
@@snagdfishing nice, I have the 3cyclinder 30hp but the gas assist and extra power would be sweet. Cheers mate
Let me know if you plan to move it on
@@darrencookfishing7961 will do 👍
Where did you buy from?
How good is the finish on the Yamaha, bought my first 30hp in 2005 and it still looks like new, when I wash down I put a bit of wash and wax on the sponge to wash the motor, and like you I recently went out and bought a new 30hp electric start before they were no longer able to sell them..
The finish on the Yamaha is really good. Definitely a good point. And yes we definitely did the right thing by buying a new 2-stroke before we couldn't get them any more. Best decision!!
Just to add that although the manual say 100-1 I always use around 60 to 1 and have never had an issue , I think 100-1 is just way too lean
@@alleycat8483 The manual say 100-:1 for recreational use but the same motor for commercial use is 50:1
I wish here in the US we would be able to get brand new 2 strokes must be nice
hi,what size propeller
where did you get ahold of this brand new 2 stroke?
Gold Coast Boating centre. I had to do a lot of phoning around and lots of places didn't have any left. Pretty happy to secure this one.
What a beauty! I like 2 strokes too. Your boat is really kool. They dont sell boats like that around here in he states. Did you save any money buying 2 stroke over 4 or are they about the same price new?
Thanks mate. I saved around $2500 AU buying 2 stroke.
Yeah I do like the bass boats you guys have.
@@snagdfishing Wow! Big difference. Thank you.
Where to buy from ?
Where can I buy this?
Nice 40
Hey mate how's speed after the run in period
On my own she sits at 50km/h. With 2 people 46km/h and with 4 people 42km/h. Gets up on the place really well.
What motor is it?the 40cv 700cc? And what propeller do you have?
Yeah mate. Prop 11 3/8 x 12-G
Bro, price and from where I can buy ? Please provide the address
You have the last year of two strokes made in Australia/new zealand. Could be worth a bit of money when you sell it
Yeah possibly!! Value for weight / power is unmatched I reckon...When comparing to 4 stroke. So far I'm loving the upgrade. (On the water tight now haha)
Snag’d Fishing I need it in the US. Our two strokes are all 12+ years old
@@willispautz yeah wow!!! It won't be long until we have the same issue - such a shame, 2 strokes are great.
This 40 horsepower is far different from the other 40 horsepower plus this one has three piston what model.
Trim the motor down a little because if you give full throttle it sprays water
Whats the dry weight of your hull?
Hey mate, dry weight just boat and no motor etc is 255kg. Outboard motor weighs 83kg.
Price??
how much does the boat weigh ? i guess it s faster than a heavier 40 horse 4stroke
Around 250kg. If I had to choose between a 4 stroke 40 and a 2 stroke 40, I would choose the 4 stroke. Much quieter, more fuel effiencent and similar speeds.
@@snagdfishing thanks for your reply , so do you thing 4 stroke will be around same speed even if it s heavier? thanks
You do get similar speeds. The 40 4 strokes are pretty nice.
Wow sweet dreams
Hi bro how much mileage does it give
24lt tank would last me all day on the motor. Can't give you proper mileage, never calculated it properly.
what is the model of ur 40hp.. e40x?
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Are you running 50:1 or 100:1?
50:1 The info booklet for Yamaha 2 stroke outboards recommends that as well
@@snagdfishing But that´s weird how some old yamaha 40 hp have the sticker saying 100:1. And may use it this way ! I´m confused about this.
@@HF1600ie yeah a mate has an old 40hp 2 stroke and he runs his at 100:1. My outboard recommends 50:1 (have done that since new for over a year now) but I reckon you could still use a ratio of 100:1...im just following my booklet and the boat dealership recommended the 50:1 as well
What is your propeller spec ?
Hey mate, it is in the comments somewhere. I think I mentioned it 3 times!
Does it have electric start
No. I guess that's what I love about it. It's simple to operate.
Where did u get the boat from
Gold Coast Boating Centre - Stessl Apache 440. I've got a few other videos of the boat heading out of the Noosa Bar and also general use! Any more questions just ask!
K thanks
How much was it
I have a 94 30hp 2t yammy. It is everything you have there in that 40hp with less weight. You should have spent your money on a major service on the 2t and keept your money for beers.
I wish what you were saying was all true.
I had the one carby on the 30hp and I have 3 carby's with 3 cylinders on the 40hp. Way more torque. Better fuel economy. More comfortable tiller arm. Better for trolling the 40hp compared to the 30hp. It just doesn't compare...
What boat is that ?
Stessl Apache 440
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Hi mate, looking at a stessl Apache 440 tiller at the moment, with a 50 4 stroke yam. Are gc boating centre good to deal with? And any problems with the hull?
Hey mate. Sorry for the late reply. I like the hull man, works well. Been through a few bars no worries. If anything, I'd prefer a 4 stroke on the back.
And GC are good to deal with. Eould recommend.
I'm just kerous how much you paid for the 40
Hey mate, I paid $5500 Aus for the 40HP. Came with a new 24lt fuel tank as well.
what prop?
11 3/8 x 12-G
That's the prop there
I need you to remove the cover of the engine!, it is two cylinders or 3 cylinders?
3 cylinders.
@@snagdfishing Here in Argentina there is no such model, there are only 40hp two cylinders ... a success for you .. congratulations!
pablo antonio hay de las dos. El de 2 es mas mejor y pesa menos. El de 3 trae mas fuerza pero con 3 carburadores embez de 1
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hey mate what kind of tinny is this ?
Stessl Apache 440
@@snagdfishing looks awesome, quick question what made you go with the stessl, im looking at many tinnies atm and looking for the best out there
@@MF-qw5wl I won this boat. Since owning, I've been through the noosa bar, been through plenty of rivers and estuaries and also fresh water lakes. Also out of the Brisbane bar as well. It handled everything very well. I'd probably enjoy a side console and a higher transom on my next boat. But I'm happy with the tinny 👌👌
@@snagdfishing awesome man thanks for the info, enjoying your vids !
@@MF-qw5wl thanks mate. No worries.
How much it costs by dollars ?
Aus 5500$
Whats the boat weight
Just the hull, around 250kg
2 stoke over a 4 stroke?
2 stroke is lighter than a 4 stroke. 2 stroke has more power. 4 stroke is more fuel efficient. 4 stroke is quieter. I could go on and on haha. I'd be happy with both. For me and my boat, I don't want a heavy motor so I'd go 2 stroke.
Can I buy one 30 or 40 hp Yamaha I live in America
We are the same as you now, not allowed to sell 2 stroke motors any more. One of the last 2 strokes is the one I bought.
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How much was your boat
The Boat sells for around $12,000. Price goes up or down depending on outboard.
What the website to buy these
As of Jan 2020 Australia stopped selling them brand new! Sucks
@@snagdfishing I'm In USA
What you talking about new they dont make these new in 2019 2 stroke
Late 2018 model new! 2019 fitted.
Fuel usage would be nice.
Hard to give exact fuel consumption. Around 2km/L
@@snagdfishing Nice! Thanks!👍🏻
Pretty engine, should go alot faster though.. our 30 2 stroke went 64 k’s
Yeah thats quick. The boat is 3mm plate alloy so it weighs a little bit.
Yep, same here!
I'm so confused why upgrade a brand engine? Only 10hp and not real other upgrade. Not an efi, 4 stroke or anything. Sponsored?
That is a very good question i have a very detailed response to. You've inspired me to upload a quick 'Why did I upgrade only 10HP' video - that I will upload to my highlight reel on Instagram!!!
In short, the power moving from 30 to 40 is incredible. The weight is another major factor. I am not sponsored!
Snag’d Fishing 40hp is probs max for transom I assume. With phase out of 2 stroke carb I hope you got it for cheap. Didnt think teachers could dish it out!
@@HoovyPresentations I'm serious about the video upload haha. I'll upload to my highlight reel soon with the answer. The 2 stroke was well priced.
Man you’re lucky we can’t buy 2 strokes here in the u.s anymore
Same here in AUS man. The one you see in the vid was one of the last sold.
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