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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2023
- Carrier ratting (PvE) in a Thanatos in EVE Online.
Not using the Networked Sensor Array because of unsafe space.
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Extended version by Randolf Lemmont
Carriers are in a weird place right now, CCP needs to make them great again. I use a paladin and it completes a drone horde in about 10 to 11 minutes. But...while it's a little faster and quite a bit cheaper it has its risks. A marauder can only survive about 30 to 45 seconds against a carrier spawn unless you're dual rep. A carrier will just smile and wave.
Hey, thx for the video, did the W are for male the fighter orbit please? I always lose some fighter because my carrier lose the focus..
Sorry for the late reply, yes, when they're about to kill a target, hold W and click next target to make fighters orbit even before they cycle their guns so they don't stop moving between targets.
I keep losing fighters when ratting. were you having them orbit between rats?
just keep them moving. Q them in space towards the next spawn location.
Pretty cool
Learning to rat in null now, and carrier is one of the choices, so thank you for the demonstration. Note with interest that the fit suggested by my alliance is REALLY heavily tanked. That's so a response can be mounted if you get jumped. Without a tank, carriers are surprisingly easy to kill with a bomber strike. With a tank, they still go down, but it can mean time to respond measured in minutes rather than seconds. Toyed with the idea of keeping a cyno alt on my base in system, just to be able to jump out in case of a drop. What's the closest you have been to death in null in a carrier?
Hi, thank you for the comment.
Carrier ratting is relatively safe. You are most vulnerable while warping between sites, when you land and need time to align (use a 500MN MWD to speed that up). But from there on you are always aligned to a safe place. Just don't forget that you can not tether on structure with fighters out, so be ready to abandon them while warping if you left them out in space and you expect hostiles waiting for you at the structure.
I lost a few carriers while doing stupid things like gate camping or getting baited into a fight, though I don't remember losing one while ratting.
It is not unusual that I'm warping out right as an interceptor is landing in my site, because I tend to wait for my fighters to return till the last moment.
I also have a cyno ready (well actually I'm too lazy so I just have a few beacons in mind as last resort if I need to jump out of system), and I also have a Huginn on my other character, that I can warp in, to web any interceptors to be able to kill them with fighters.
No local window, seems a bit odd
Good observation. I tried to respect privacy of my friends living in the system, just for the video. I had local visible on another character on second monitor, and corp mates playing in neighbouring systems for eyes :)
Normally I have local chat open at all times.
As much DPS as a marauder for twice the price!
for a ratting fit, theres no need for any tanking modules, so you better swap those for more dps and/or better fighter tracking. you shouldent put more then one squad of fighters on any rats smaller then battleships aswell, because 1 more or less oneshot them anyway, so doing what you do, you waste alot of dmg
Those are very good points, thank you.
My fit is more of a mixed bag, I used to use it also for small scale home defense in the past. It should withstand a small gang at least till reinforcements arrive. You could definitely turn it into more efficient ratting machine :)
Spliting damage among multiple rats is also useful, for me it takes 2 cycles of all three squads to take down a cruiser (more or less exactly, so there is not much wasted damage), so for cruisers I leave them all on 1 target. For BCs it takes 3 volleys of single squad, so I usually split those 1 target per squad. Frigates I split randomly, 1 or 2 squads per target, as one squad is not enough to one shot them.
And that's only cannons, I use missile volleys only on battleships, only one missile per target, that way it lasts for the whole site. I'm too far from the site so recalling fighters to reload missiles is probably not efficient.
whats the BRM in X5-U?
What a sad indictment on the state of carriers. It's barely faster than a single Tengu and that's only against battleships and only when using the drone missiles.
Dual box a second Tengu and it's vastly slower.
I'm absolutely gutted.
Yeah you can get pretty much the same clear time with a Golem or Paladin
How much isk per hour do you make like this?
Hi, thank you for your comment.
I'm getting between 20-30mil ISK ticks plus ESS payout (zero corp tax and 100% BRM system). So if I'm counting correctly, that makes 60-90mil ISK per hour plus whatever gets paid from the ESS.
Though there is further potential for optimization, for example I don't usually use the NSA and warp back to station between each site instead of warping site to site, because the space we're in ATM is not really safe.
@@randolflemmont seems kind of wasteful given the risk and low ISK/Hr
@@gideoncervan9915 doing it properly will net about 200-250m per hour, if you use mtu and collect loot it can be up to 250-400m per hour depending on loot drops. This is also assuming the ess does not get robbed. Doing in a super carrier with loot and full ticks can net almost 750m per hour, then you can also run 3 CRABs and make extra 1-4b per day.
@@umadbroimatroll7918 CRABs being it’s own thing is worth it, but not carrier ratting given the time/risk unless you can scale like in a SC but given op said space they live in isn’t safe an Ishtar out earns the carrier and is far faster to pay off and even warp to safety instead.
should i drop you now randolf
Is this null?
yes