2023 Ford Bronco Black Diamond is the best value and will cost this price
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Today we are looking to build the 2023 Ford Bronco Black Diamond. The Black Diamond comes with lots of good off road features like rear locker and the wash out floor. But if you add the sasquatch the trim steps it up a notch.
Join Dave as we build and price the 2023 Bronco Black Diamond.
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I have liked the Black Diamond package since the beginning. The proper choice is 2dr version because that is a true bronco.
Dave at 54,660, a non-sasquatch Badlands 2.7 mid package is a better deal the Black Diamond Sasquatch for off-roading just for the sway bar disconnect. Long-term resale value will always be better for the Badlands. Plus you can have the slide out.
That is a good point
@@AllTerrainNation You did pretty dang good, that's only the most subtle of differences that tripped you up. I think that you could still argue for the Black Diamond if you were building to a specific price point - especially if you didn't go Sasquatch package. Giving up the front locker doesn't give up that much capability compared to the non-sasquatch Badlands (especially if you get a take-off Badlands suspension and disconnect the front sway bar with the Craftsman option).
Not an off roader, but a life long first gen Bronco fan, so my Bronco requirements were heavy on daily use. The BD is a nice model, however not being able to at least acquire the High package in the BD prevented me from ordering. The OBX is the model that meets my needs, but the standard OBX is to pedestrian, and the interior choices were not to my liking. So after all the slicing and dicing the BL came out the winner. I ordered the two door BL, lux,MGV 2.3 auto, roof rails, bags, floor mats, non Sasquatch in the fantastic Cyber Orange. The Sasquatch looks cool, but the BL looks great with the standard 33’s. I couldn’t be happier.
33s look great on the Bronco.. The BL is a great build for sure
With a different use case for my bronco, I still felt pushed into badlands. Didn't care about most of the high package, but I thought the camera would be a big deal for off-road, and just spent some time wheeling today in an area with lots of ridges proving myself right. A screen that shows which way the trail turns, when all you see over the hood is sky, is a critical safety feature. Also wanted a manual, and you can't even get mid package with a manual unless you upgrade to badlands (or this year, heritage trim as well). While I seriously considered saving some money with the black diamond, when I finally got my bronco and got it into the rocks and sand, I'm now sure badlands was the right choice.
I went cheap. 2 door Base manual. Going to put 35" AT's on this spring. Only paid $28,500 before just a few extras. Roof rails, modular front bumper, aux switches, and block heater. Couldn't be more happy with what I got for the price. (Although I really did want the rubberized floor with drain plugs but oh well, I'll have to settle for the Husky floor liners).
The BLUE HIGHLIGHTS on the interior are NO WHERE near that bright and in your face like the CGI pics would lead you to believe. Very subtle, and within a month you'll never see them again.
Loving our vb bronco! Me and my son (10) was driving home Friday night, and he yelled "Dad look! It's the youtubers!" We saw your Bronco at the veterans and church red light. We were waiving, but it was probably too dark for you to see us.
Aww man.. Sorry we didnt see ya waving.. Let us know when you are available and we will give the little dude a ATN shirt
That’s why I chose a Black Diamond. I really wanted the Sasquatch pkg, washout floors, and vinyl seats. Mine has the 2.3 and I absolutely love it! Keep up the great work ❤
Thanks!
The Ford procal tuner makes the 2.3 much more appealing.
Just picked up my 2 door Eruption Green Black Diamond yesterday after originally ordering a 2021 model and patiently waiting. I got the 2.7 non Sasquatch with mid package. Loving it so far. Windows are tinted and have a lot more to do.
Congrats! You will have lots of fun with it
‘21 Black Diamond- No regrets. It is the trim level for a off roader.
Non SAS Badlands was the best choice for me... gives you the disconnect and in my opinion better tires with the KO2s. Also gives you the ability to add high and lux for that 12in screen.
And price is pretty comparable between black diamond sasquatch and badlands non-squatch.
Love my big bend with the sas pkg., modular bumper, aux. switches, rough country fog lamps, 2.3 eco boost, all weather mats, pincher weld covers, heated seats, hard top mic carbonized gray. Only thing Iam looking at is the Mabett mud flaps for the front wheels to protect the doors from chipping. Some protection now from the running boards.👍👍👍👍👍
I like my black diamond - hard top , regular wheels and 2.3 engine - I do have a little envy for the sasquatch tires and suspension but if I were to go for those I would seriously just get the Everglades - it's basically a black diamond with the 12" screen, Sasquatch and of course the snorkel and winch
Except it only comes in auto.
And basically impossible to get
I ordered the 2 door, BD, 2.7, SAS, MIC top, and standard 321a package. I wanted a 4x4 with good off-road capabilities. Didn’t want cushy and not out to make my wife happy.
Nicely done. No gimmicks, just good info. I own two jeeps, a GC, and a Sahara, but I have to hand it to ford, they really did a great job with the Bronco.
Thank you for the nice comment, We have a Gladiator and Bronco.. Both are fun for different reasons
I’m looking to get a Bronco next year and it kills me the Black Diamond does not have the option for wireless charging and 10 speakers. And the seats are not as nice as the Badlands. Very frustrating
My 2022 black diamond 2.7 mid mic top was non sas was 50k out the door. It was between that and the base sas 2.7 and the interior won out on the black diamond. Black diamond has the best looking interior I think. Both very similar prices. Only thing I wish I would've got was the tow which I added and the optional aluminum wheels which I'm also adding with 33s. Best bang for your buck I could find for me.
Waiting on the orders to open back up. Going to keep it simple on my BD order. Only going to add the hard top, mod frt bumper and auto trans. I'll swap out the wheels and tires for 33"s and possibly a lift at some point. Have plans for lots of extras and add ons over time. I definitely agree the BD being the best value and finding that middle ground of all the trim levels.
Hell yeah BLACK DIAMOND . IF you wanted to go step up with sq bumper screen lockers the everglades to I believe is great option my wife wants everglades
Hey Dave. I had ordered a 2 door Black Diamond 2022 with sas. It never got built. I converted to 2023 Heritage Race Red that I'm waiting on. I had planned on mods for the BD to look like the Heritage. Ordering the Heritage I lose the wash out interior and MG seats. But I gained the painted top, wheels and grille. I also added the signature lights, auxiliary switches, and it comes with the gunner hatch not available on the others. It is 300.00 more, well worth it. I'm hoping for March or April. I'm thinking about changing the front seats to Katskin and rear seat delete. If any luck, I'll be at Super cel. Road trip from AZ. Thanks Steve
I hate that some have been pushed back but sounds like you we're able to win in the end. Hope tp see youre sweet rise this spring
We are still waiting for ours. The only thing I did different was a hardtop. Thanks for taking the time to do this .
Cant wait till you get yours! The Bronco in all forms is a lot of fun
Just picked up our four door, velocity blue, Black Diamond after waiting almost two years. Have to agree it is a very nice trim. Had to replace the stock wheels and tires with better looking ones, but that is it for now. Will eventually get the hard top. Nice review, keep up the good work . 😎
Nice! Hope you enjoy the little beast for many years
2 door Badlands no additional options would do it for me. Only other consideration would be base bronco 2 door with Sasquatch. No other options. Between the 2 I’m still leaning toward the Badlands. Good video. Take care.
like the black D race red with steelies
whats with all the 4 doors mine is a 22 big bend 2door rear locker and switches waited a year for it at the 21 sticker price 2.3 7speed stock rims and is as fast or faster than a stock 4 door V6 weighs 500 pounds less city mileage at 22.5 and is amazing off road.Enjoy your bronco rides 2 or 4 door .
No way it’s faster than the 2.7.. 300 HP v 330 HP.
We like the 2 door and it was our original order but when calculating the space we need the 4 door made more sense.
Considering the Black Diamond.....would this be good on snowy/icy mountain roads?
Any 4wd is great on snow and ice provided you get a good winter rated tires. The Bronco is a fun SUV for sure
Interest rates aren’t just based on “you”, is more based on the treasury.
I love the blue! I am glad I got it over the Area 51
Do you think they fixed the manual trans grinding issue for 2023?
I’m not sure
One thing I didn’t realize was that the sway bar disconnect was only available on the badlands model!!
Yep.. They push you into the badlands
I have a 2021 BB with lift & 35’s soft top! Trying to decide to order hard top , or not? I wish I had gone with the BD !
We have a couple videos on the aftermarket hard tops. They are expensive but seem to be a nice upgrade vs the Ford top
Awaiting new retail orders to open up so I can get in line
Dopey question time. Where did you get that clock over your right shoulder?
Oh man it’s been a minute.. I think I found it on an Instagram ad
Like your build but would need the hard top.
Ordered mine in Oct 2021, thinking about saying F Ford and going Toyota. Mines a 2 door non sas with the 2.7. And Its not a slight delay for these constraints,
Our only issue in moving to a 4 runner is the outdated tech. We have reviewed the 22/23 4Runner and Tacoma's lately and the biggest issue is old back up cameras and feel. Hope you find the right SUV in the end.
You need to talk to Alan @diabolical_inc about making the Bronco slide out floor of his without the angle iron edge and instead be a type of slide out tailgate with their marine deck pad inserts so that you can sit on it.
Heritage seems like an even better value
Did you miss the rear arm rest and cup holders. Looks like they may be standard now. That's a big deal for the rest of us who don't cup holders.
Yep, we hinted in a live video a few months back that the arm rest was coming. Ford is listening to the people
I keep seeing more and more Broncos just plain dead.
No juice to anything in the Bronco.
Seems many have to have it towed in and most people don’t know how to get the automatic transmission into neutral so it can be towed.
How about a video on how to get the boot off so you can put the shifter into neutral when we have no juice. Thought it would be helpful !
Thanks
Ron
I disagree. Base Squatch. You get the bigger front axle. If you want wash out floor, that can be easily done. If you want seat protection you can do that too. Goat modes are just a program that can be jail broke. Plus you don’t have to buy 5 new aluminum wheels and new bigger tires. Front locker, mike drop! Boom!
A base Sasquatch package has the same diffs as this Sasquatch package. You also get the same wheels in each Sasquatch package. You do get a factory water resistant seat. Ok wait to see what the wash out floor liner will cost plus all the time to install.
No sure I need to drop a mic but cool
@@AllTerrainNation you make great points. I really can't disagree if you Sas the BD. I am biased as I have a Base Squatch on order (third time) which pound for pound is a great deal plus I have a priviate offer which when combined with $1,250 below invoice my total price is under $40,000. For a Base model the Bronco is pretty good w/ push start, LED front headlamps, Sync4 and the ability to upgrade (which I did) to the 2.7 engine, front Mod Bumper and the Sasquatch package.
@@scottdaytonhunn The base has a lot of value for sure but look at what you do not get.. no skids
But you don’t get sway bar disconnect that sucks
That’s true
You cannot get the manual transmission with the 2.7, plus there are valve problems with the 2.7.
2.7 had 50 motors early on.. It’s not been a issue in a year and you are right you can not get a MT with 2.7
You need to stay on top of the news…not an issue at all
Clicked off when you started on a 4 dr. build…no thanks
Well its in the thumbnail
The 2.7 is not as reliable as the 2.3.
Based on?
@@AllTerrainNation Reddit forums and some CZcamsrs. Something about a bad batch of valves causing engine failure
@@Ramibiker2023chief the first run production broncos had 60 with faulty valves. Past those the 2.7 has been solid.
Too much