It might appear that that we sound a bit negative about ordering a Ford Bronco. If you have the patience to order and wait for one, it's probably the best solution since you should be able to get it for the window sticker price without any haggling. But ordering a Bronco right now also has some drawbacks, as we discussed in the video. So, if you're looking for a more immediate solution like we were, I hope you enjoy learning from our experience buying a Bronco right off the dealership lot.
Wanted a Bronco soooo bad since they came out, saw the markups and ultimately told myself to wait a few years and that it wouldn’t happen anytime soon. I ended up finding a 2022 Big Bend 2dr manual sitting on a lot for right around MSRP, when asking the dealer what the catch was, they said people kept coming in, seeing it was a manual, and ditching. I went back and forth with them for about a month (was working a lot), walked away from the deal once, and I ended up with a rate and payments that were so good I didn’t even think it was possible right now, and I’m making the 5hr drive to go pick it up Wednesday. I’m beyond excited. Patience is key when looking for your dream car. Congrats on yours!
The supply of Broncos is actually pretty good now. The problem is that some dealers are still trying to screw you by asking for $10K to $15K over sticker. If you have the patience to expand your search, you'll be able to get one at or very close to MSRP.
We live in NC and ordered from a dealership in PA, Chapman Ford of Horsham. I ordered the Bronco for my wife in January 2022 and received it this month. We paid several thousands below MSRP because Ford offered price protection. She is in love with her Basesquatch with the 2.7 V6 2 door in chilli pepper red.
Come to Michigan and there’s some dealers selling at MSRP with no dealer add ons or maybe just mats and wheel locks(about $300 over). I just made deposit to one In stock and am going to sign all documents next month
The dealership determines how much they charge you in interest. They make money off the financing. They get kickbacks from Ford credit as well as whatever bank they get the loan from. Always tell them that you are paying cash for the purchase and you have no trade in. That way you agree on the price they will sell you the vehicle. They can’t manipulate the numbers. You tell them after that you decided to trade in a vehicle and tell them let’s see what a payment would be.
I actually lucked into a 2 door big bend with the 2.7L after joking with the dealer about looking for a "Unicorn". Next thing I knew, he gave me a call 2 weeks later and had one coming into the dealership with most of the features I was looking for! I'm in Michigan so the local production probably helps with the delivery quantities here, but I also paid MSRP, no dealer upcharge thankfully!
Great video, I have a 2021 Black Diamond. I went through the similar experience. I got my Bronco through an order that was cancelled. I was in line with 5 other buyers. I can drive manual, and I moved up to the front of the line. Now I was able to deal with the dealership. I wasn’t paying the dealer mark-up; and eventually the dealer guy gave me the car since I was the only buyer that can drive a manual. A few comments, the rock rails, they do protect from rocks, but actually slide over large rocks (like a slider), and the wheels are not the same as the base. Same style, but Black Diamond uses 17 inch wheels, Base models use 16 inch wheels. Great video, make another one for the added features in the Black Diamond.
I had this same experience with my 2023 WildTrak 4-Door. We have 8 different dealerships around our area... It's interesting to see the different experiences. The first 2 dealers I went to were extremely demanding... And after the 4or5 location I had a sales rep that was very accommodating. After a full year he finally got me the offer I couldn't refuse. It was a great experience at the end of the day. Prior to the ridiculous upsale BS I went through for months straight.
Never fill out a credit app before agreeing to out the door price in writing with the sales manager's signature on it. And always be prepared to walk out. You almost always get a better deal by walking out at least once. I bought 4 new vehicles last year at msrp. Traded them in for another and made $$ each time. Now I have a HE Bronco on order for MSRP. Make sure your dealer has the correct allotment for your build, otherwise you probably wont get it.
I'm actually one of those people. My neighbor waited for over two years to get his Bronco and still didn't have it. He couldn't believe it when I drove up in the driveway. The dealership in Palm Springs had one. It was the badlands' sasquatch. It came fully loaded. It was expensive but we went ahead and went for it. I was sweating bullets after we did it, but now I'm really happy that we did. I'm enjoying it so much. I bought the soft-top, and I'm having fun riding with it down. It's an easy flip, and it's back down again. Congrats on your Bronco. I know you'll enjoy yours as much as I do. They have so much potential to be whatever you want it to be. I'm sort of wondering by the video if you're close to where I'm at with the windmills and the mountains. Thank you for the video❤
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience with us Kimberly! And yes, it's a small world - we might just run into each other on (or off) the road! 👋
Congrats!!! A year late watching, but still a congrats!!! I had two 2020 reservations, so my first Bronco was msrp and a cactus grey big bend that I "dumbed down" the order to get Nov 2021, after going to Bronco off roadeo I decided I needed a Sasquatch, but my big bend order I think got built the day I was at Off Rodeo so couldn't change that, but luckily I still had an outstanding reservation. I loved that Big Bend too so no regrets. I placed an order for the cheapest Sasquatch when order banks opened for model year 2022. Two Door Base Sasquatch 2.3 and my son picked the color Shadow Black, I got a very fast production time at the time, not sure how as we were hoping for a bit more time, but nonetheless by the time it arrived the msrp was higher than my order price so I got it below msrp at 38K!!!. My husband then picked up an order for a carbonized grey lux obx before order banks closed in 22, and when that arrived I traded the big bend for that four door and got paid above the price I paid so no negative equity!!! My son drove the two door sas for awhile but think I am getting it back in the meantime I drove about two hours to pick up a Pilot for a family vehicle... but I agree that was the only way to get a good deal (aka msrp) was to do a wide search. Anyways watching new videos as I need to do a few tweaks to the Sasquatch. I wish I got a manual but at the time no one but me could drive a manual in my family of four drivers. I have searched for new ones as I would pick a two door with manual or 2.7 but now you can't build one for less than 50K so I will just modify the one I have as it is closer to being paid off which is better than a new payment... there are things I like about the base models but sure wish they put those 12 inch screens on all vehicles in 22 and I do wish I had the mid package with heated seats because I loved the heated cloth seats from my big bend and I miss the cactus grey!!! but those are minor details and some things I liked they are not making anymore!!!!
Good content - We ended up paying $1,000 over MSRP. I refuse to talk to any dealer who talks Payments - I walk.... They gave us a generous trade-in as well. Very Happy.
why pay anymore that msrp? the lots have been filling up with broncos in the Boston area for the last month and today I was offered a choice of 2 different 4 door broncos with hard top and soft tops that were coming in 2 weeks. One with leather, one had cloth. Both for msrp 🤷
I ordered my Bronco 4Dr Badlands Sasquatch, within the first month on the first round of ordering. It took 2. 4 years for me to take delivery. I actually forgot about it at one point. I ordered it exactly how I wanted it. I have had it now since August of 22, I have put over 16k miles on it. No issues whatsoever. I would be this vehicle a thousand times. I love driving it, it makes off-roading fun again. I no longer wofer if my vehicle will get me home after a few days on the trail. With the 2.7 twin turdo engine I can rip through the desert like a wild banshee. The after market stuff is really coming around too. I installed my own charging pad and everything. 🎉congrats on moving up to the big brother, you won't regret it.😊
Finally got a 4 door black Diamond at msrp this week as well. Great video- one nitpick- the steelies are not only black, but they are 17”. I believe the base model comes with non-black 16” steelies, so they are different wheels.
Excellent review, great info. I currently have a Black Diamond 4dr in cactus gray on order and can't wait for it to arrive. Congrats on your Bronco and enjoy your many adventures!!!
Congrats! Your journey begins…. Good job on the negotiation. Seems like most dealers give the experience you described. It was similar to ours as well.
Loved your video, what an ordeal that was for you guys!!! Glad you got the Bronco you wanted. I was a reservation holder on day 2 of the pre-order on the release. Put my Dealership info on the order and it was done. 2 days later they contacted me to finalize my order and the price. It was straight up MSRP, no market adjustment, no nothing. December 5th 2021 I drove my 2021 Race Red 2 door Badlands home and I still love it so much you couldn't offer me enough to part with it. My Baby. I must say, the dealership and management make all the difference in the world when buying new vehicles. I have dealt with Cam Clark Ford in Airdrie Alberta Canada since 2005 with all our vehicle purchases and have never had any problems what so ever. Glad to hear you love your Bronco and Rock on Bronco. Man are they fun off road!!
That is because in Canada they cannot charge you over MSRP on new vehicles like in the US. Once they are considered used all bets are off though. Where i live in washington state they are trying to sell a ton of used Canadian market Broncos as well. So the sticker looks close until you realize its in loonys 🙂 Buyer beware!
Strange days we're living in! Where if you managed to get your car for list price, you got a great deal! Sounds like the postwar new car customers in 1946 were treated better.
I bought the big bend , has just enough stuff that I need coming from a 22 tundra that was loaded to the max of opinions I rarely used, so far I’m happy with the bronco
Good video to show others, who may not know, how to deal with dealers. One difference between the base and Black Diamond steelies is their size... Base = 16", Black Diamond = 17", tire type & size as well. 👍
Congrats!!Beautiful Bronco! Have you experienced the dreaded transmission grind/ rock tumbler noise yet? Seems like it eventually affects all of them. I got it on day one & my car has been at the dealership for almost 3 months waiting for the redesigned transmission to arrive. Worst of all I had to pay a 1200 mark up on a mt black diamond hardtop 4dr. All in all, I'm not overly disappointed and can't wait to get my car back lol. Great video, subscribed!
I had the same experience with my 21 Bronco sport outer banks., Took It to the dealership they said that was normal I call them out on their BS traded it in for a bad lands so far no issues.
Congrats. Sorry that getting it was such a hassle, but I while my experience was far less stressful, it took over a year. I ordered a stick too, had a salesman ask if I was really sure, but that crawl gear is so good off-road, I'm glad I did. Maybe I'll see y'all and wave if you come back to the Joshua Trees.
Get an approval for a auto loan with a bank beforehand. Banks especially credit unions almost always have lower APR & 100% finance if needed. Now you’re Free to shop without dealer markups & high APR financing. Just don’t tell the dealer you have it before the deal/$ is clear & on paper. Ask them to beat the terms you have with the bank or use the check from the bank.
Congrats on your new Bronco. This morning, 20 April 2023, was shocked to get Ford's notification that my March 2023 order for a 2-door 2023 Badlands w/all the goodies and VIN was scheduled for production in June, 2023. I was shocked because many new Bronco owners reported waiting 2 years for their orders.
Hey, I'm curious how this works. Do you put a down payment? Start paying the car off right away? Or do you make no paymentd until you actually get the car?
@@lucerocastaneda9497 I pay for my vehicles upon receipt, no loans, etc. My local Ford dealer did not require a deposit. Paying upfront saves a lot of money.
I originally ordered my bronco on March 9, 2021. I think it was the base model with the Sasquatch package. Around 8-10 months later I upgraded my order for the first time to the 2022 big bend model with the Sasquatch package. When figured out I wasn’t getting the 2022 model. I changed my order to the Wildtrak model with the lux package and changed the color to Area 51. 2 doors and one level below the Raptor. Finally after 25 months and 2 upgrades from my original order and date, I finally got my Bronco. Does anyone remember the email Ford sent out at the end of January? Informing everyone who were still waiting on their bronco orders. If we wanted a better chance to get a 2023 Bronco, that we only had 3 models to choose from! I was pisssed! I told the salesman I contacted at the dealership to cancel my effing order after he answered a few questions I had. Like I said, I was pissed! I was researching on how to order a 2023 Shelby Mustang, when I received a email on 2/9/23 informing me that my Bronco was scheduled for production on the week of 03/27/2023 and to disregard the email from Ford.
Is there a story as to why you wanted the 2 door? Was it solely to get the manual? Or something else? And maybe your long term thoughts on how you like it compared to your Bronco Sport?
I wanted the two door because in my opinion I liked the way it looked better. When we were looking for Broncos there wasn't much out there either so it just so happened this two door manual was the one I could get for the price I wanted. I honestly love my Bronco. It is by far my favorite vehicle I have ever owned. I also loved the Bronco Sport but mostly because it was practical whereas my Bronco is more fun to drive.
I got a Bronco 4dr Badlands Sasquatch, had to wait 16 months for it, but pd msrp…..if do your homework you can find a legit dealer to order from who won’t gash you with markups
Thank you! We intentionally didn't say the name of the dealership as we didn't want to promote them since we didn't have the best experience. And all their Broncos had markup.
Dude, I lucked up and got my 2-door big bend at MSRP by calling dealers from different states around California. I originally placed an order for a 4dr base sas, but the dealer in california never got back to me, and it's been 11 months. Almost every dealer in california wants 10k to 20k over msrp for Broncos actively on the lots.
I was set on getting a bronco but greedy ford sales tactics turned me off. I would recommend waiting to get a bronco. Prices will drop like a rock. Competitors like jeep have caught up with their inventory storage and you get a 2023 wrangler for $10k+ off MSRP.
Good video…with the recession pushing buyers away due to shifting priorities and unaffordable interest rates I am betting on softening demand and an increased supply of used units to pick from. I tried the order bank and Ford can’t even get the website right as I printed the order and submitted it into a black hole with no confirmation, order number, nothing! The dealer I selected called me immediately and didn’t even realize I was placing an order. Research afterwards showed my 7 speed manual transmission selection is no longer available but the Ford website allowed the order to continue and gave me no indication of any issues after submitting!
Well, I'm 71, and before I retired I had bought 16 brand new Chevy/GMC trucks from 1973 to 2012. I still own my 2012 2500HD Silverado with 32K miles on it. When new, I had the best undercoating/rust prevention done before loading it with aftermarket accessories to make it mine. 12 months ago I was offered $35k for it. I paid $38k for the base truck in 2012! It's an LT with everything but leather! What I learned over 16 deals, ALL car dealers are lying, cheating, no good, scum sucking, rotten to the core, thieving, useless pieces of crap that should be in jail not selling cars/trucks!! That about sums it up. 8) --gary
These dealerships have gotten out of control with markups. I will never take something that’s on the lot ever again unless it’s exactly what I want. Otherwise I always plan to order.
My sister just bought a 2023 bronco big ben in chicago that ford dealer was pushey $6,000 ad on to sticker for paint protection, warranty on tires, and other items told the sales men we won't buy the bronco if thay didn't remove the extra price I don't know what she paid but I'd never buy from that dealership bad experience
Why even deal witha company like Ford if their dealer network can't even get orders right for the customer. Especially when they're marking up the MSRP of said product.
@@wvjeepguy8178 yup, and I've been a Ford guy for years but my next vehicle may very well be another make. Hell I'd take a Nissan truck over the F150 or Ranger anymore.
Pathetic that guy questioned you multiple times assuming you didn’t know how to drive a manual. I love pointing out to people that my aunt is who taught me how to drive a standard transmission when they’re being misogynistic.
Good job and vert smart adbice. Congrats on the vehicle. I hope its all working out for you 7 months later. Perhaps it will make you feel even better. When I tell you, I have been a hostage negotiator for 19 years and I still paid MSRP. You crushed it! And I further agree that it's great to bring along your own support person who can help you do sanity checks along the way. After all, they are doing this right in front of you by running to and from the managers office and pretending there's no more wiggle room. It's great theatrics for you to be able to do that and duck off to a corner have one of their free coffees, and talk to your friend to get their feelings on things.
The base Sasquatch we test drove looked pretty sweet, however, in this current market we went the best deal. You can essentially do your own Sasquatch package in the aftermarket.
I have sasquatch. Don't find it worth it for the look but do find it worth it off-road. I'd have been hard-pressed to get an aftermarket equivalent in the same price, and that would be harder to finance and harder to re-sell if I ever need to.
Good looking ride I have a 22 black diamond 2 door eruption green July the 12th will be a year since I got it almost 25k on it heading to Colorado and Moab next week so possibly over 30k the first year lol
Bought my 2dr OBX Lux six months ago at $2,500 *under* MSRP. The markups are now a myth. I see Bronco's sitting on lots all around where I live. Sure, there were $20k markups a year ago, but with interest rates being what they are and the economy spiraling off a cliff, nobody is buying these things with markups. Hell, the dealer I purchased from has a 2dr OBX, 2.7, High, Sas at MSRP and it's been sitting on the lot for months. It's a REALLY nice looking Bronco!
Initially, the Kelley Blue Book (KBB) estimate set our expectations too high at 35k-36k, but we were eventually able to settle on a trade-in value of 34k after negotiation. Most other dealerships were offering trade-in values between 30-32k for our Badlands. Being Cyber Orange, having Ford CoPilot 360 Assist+, as well as having the roof rack helped.
I had an easier but similar situation. My 2 door 2022 wildtrak had $30k markup. They did offer me $33k on my Bronco Sport Badlands from 2020. In the end they knocked down markup to $6k, because I told them what my monthly needed to be and that I didn't NEED this Bronco, just wanted.
Good catch! We overlooked the fact that the base model actually has 16-inch wheels, while the Black Diamond model comes with 17-inch wheels, even though their designs are quite similar. Thank you for pointing this out, and we'll make sure to keep it in mind for our next video!
I watch this video I own a bronco as well black diamond but I couldn’t help get over you kept calling it a car it’s not a car. It’s a truck don’t sell yourself short. Your bronco sport was a car.
A lot of time dealerships will take advantage of women they act like they are clueless on what they want my personal opion is. That they don’t want to deal with women women have a man go with. You like a brother or maybe your dad
I’m my opinion you paid way too much for a manual Black Diamond. Black Diamond is essentially a Base minus the marine grade vinyl seats, which you can get for under $500. The wheel rims are painted black, $0. I know you all did your research. There have been numerous issues with the manual transmission. The fact that you got a 2 door is a plus, because they are only making 10% of them. So that will hold its value. Here are my reasons for buying Base. Paid $32k. Spent $7k on upgrades. 35” tires. 3 1/2 lift kit. Gutted out the awful stereo system and added a 12 inch sub woofer on the tailgate. Added rock lights, Bronco letters on the grill in bright white lights. Total investment. $39k.
Dealerships are turning Base Broncos into $55k Broncos with some vinyl decals, bigger wheels and tires which is ridiculous. And like we mentioned you can't currently order a Base Bronco or a manual transmission. Considering our Black Diamond is $42k and that's essentially the starting price, I don't believe it's accurate to say we "paid way too much" for it. You're comparing your modified Base Bronco to a different trim that comes from the factory with a rear locking differential, steel front and rear bumpers, rock rails, bash plates, auxiliary switches, rubberized flooring, marine-grade vinyl seats and 17-inch wheels (vs 16s on the base). As far as any issues with the manual transmission, that's what warranties are for. We are very happy with our Black Diamond and we think it was worth every penny. But either way we're happy you're able to enjoy owning a Bronco, some people are still waiting on theirs!
A year ago. You wouldn’t paid that price. But that’s neither here nor there. I know you wanted to trade in your Bronco Sport. The problem is, you came to the Bronco party, two years too late. So it didn’t matter how you thought you negotiated a good deal. You still overpaid! Just saying
Alot of dealrship "order the wrong model" but really its ford trying to sell vehicles that are harder to sell i.e. manual but making it seem like the buyer is getting some sort of deal when its all false.
It might appear that that we sound a bit negative about ordering a Ford Bronco. If you have the patience to order and wait for one, it's probably the best solution since you should be able to get it for the window sticker price without any haggling.
But ordering a Bronco right now also has some drawbacks, as we discussed in the video. So, if you're looking for a more immediate solution like we were, I hope you enjoy learning from our experience buying a Bronco right off the dealership lot.
Just ordered a '24 2DR Big Bend (Eruption Green w/ mid) and didn't even crack $45k.
Wanted a Bronco soooo bad since they came out, saw the markups and ultimately told myself to wait a few years and that it wouldn’t happen anytime soon. I ended up finding a 2022 Big Bend 2dr manual sitting on a lot for right around MSRP, when asking the dealer what the catch was, they said people kept coming in, seeing it was a manual, and ditching. I went back and forth with them for about a month (was working a lot), walked away from the deal once, and I ended up with a rate and payments that were so good I didn’t even think it was possible right now, and I’m making the 5hr drive to go pick it up Wednesday. I’m beyond excited. Patience is key when looking for your dream car. Congrats on yours!
The supply of Broncos is actually pretty good now. The problem is that some dealers are still trying to screw you by asking for $10K to $15K over sticker. If you have the patience to expand your search, you'll be able to get one at or very close to MSRP.
We live in NC and ordered from a dealership in PA, Chapman Ford of Horsham. I ordered the Bronco for my wife in January 2022 and received it this month. We paid several thousands below MSRP because Ford offered price protection. She is in love with her Basesquatch with the 2.7 V6 2 door in chilli pepper red.
Broncos at dealerships near me are STILL $25k over msrp. Ridiculous.
Come to Michigan and there’s some dealers selling at MSRP with no dealer add ons or maybe just mats and wheel locks(about $300 over). I just made deposit to one In stock and am going to sign all documents next month
@@SickMy_Duck Thanks
She can be a news reporter she has the voice and personality for it.
Custom factory ordering was the way to go. You only pay msrp, and you get exactly what you want.
The dealership determines how much they charge you in interest. They make money off the financing. They get kickbacks from Ford credit as well as whatever bank they get the loan from. Always tell them that you are paying cash for the purchase and you have no trade in. That way you agree on the price they will sell you the vehicle. They can’t manipulate the numbers. You tell them after that you decided to trade in a vehicle and tell them let’s see what a payment would be.
Absolutely!!!
I actually lucked into a 2 door big bend with the 2.7L after joking with the dealer about looking for a "Unicorn". Next thing I knew, he gave me a call 2 weeks later and had one coming into the dealership with most of the features I was looking for! I'm in Michigan so the local production probably helps with the delivery quantities here, but I also paid MSRP, no dealer upcharge thankfully!
Great video, I have a 2021 Black Diamond. I went through the similar experience. I got my Bronco through an order that was cancelled. I was in line with 5 other buyers. I can drive manual, and I moved up to the front of the line. Now I was able to deal with the dealership. I wasn’t paying the dealer mark-up; and eventually the dealer guy gave me the car since I was the only buyer that can drive a manual. A few comments, the rock rails, they do protect from rocks, but actually slide over large rocks (like a slider), and the wheels are not the same as the base. Same style, but Black Diamond uses 17 inch wheels, Base models use 16 inch wheels.
Great video, make another one for the added features in the Black Diamond.
This is my fav Bronco. Looks great in that color as well. Solid.
Thank you for showing me this particular configuration. It look great without the Sasquatch package, which I was wondering about.
I had this same experience with my 2023 WildTrak 4-Door. We have 8 different dealerships around our area... It's interesting to see the different experiences. The first 2 dealers I went to were extremely demanding... And after the 4or5 location I had a sales rep that was very accommodating. After a full year he finally got me the offer I couldn't refuse.
It was a great experience at the end of the day. Prior to the ridiculous upsale BS I went through for months straight.
Never fill out a credit app before agreeing to out the door price in writing with the sales manager's signature on it. And always be prepared to walk out. You almost always get a better deal by walking out at least once. I bought 4 new vehicles last year at msrp. Traded them in for another and made $$ each time. Now I have a HE Bronco on order for MSRP. Make sure your dealer has the correct allotment for your build, otherwise you probably wont get it.
I'm actually one of those people. My neighbor waited for over two years to get his Bronco and still didn't have it. He couldn't believe it when I drove up in the driveway. The dealership in Palm Springs had one. It was the badlands' sasquatch. It came fully loaded. It was expensive but we went ahead and went for it. I was sweating bullets after we did it, but now I'm really happy that we did. I'm enjoying it so much. I bought the soft-top, and I'm having fun riding with it down. It's an easy flip, and it's back down again. Congrats on your Bronco. I know you'll enjoy yours as much as I do. They have so much potential to be whatever you want it to be. I'm sort of wondering by the video if you're close to where I'm at with the windmills and the mountains. Thank you for the video❤
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience with us Kimberly! And yes, it's a small world - we might just run into each other on (or off) the road! 👋
That sounds good. Be safe out there. 👍
its 2023, why anyone would by a soft top blows my mind, they look so bad
@@Twinjeremythey look great to me! Plus it’s instant convertible. And a throwback to the original Bronco.
Congrats!!! A year late watching, but still a congrats!!! I had two 2020 reservations, so my first Bronco was msrp and a cactus grey big bend that I "dumbed down" the order to get Nov 2021, after going to Bronco off roadeo I decided I needed a Sasquatch, but my big bend order I think got built the day I was at Off Rodeo so couldn't change that, but luckily I still had an outstanding reservation. I loved that Big Bend too so no regrets. I placed an order for the cheapest Sasquatch when order banks opened for model year 2022. Two Door Base Sasquatch 2.3 and my son picked the color Shadow Black, I got a very fast production time at the time, not sure how as we were hoping for a bit more time, but nonetheless by the time it arrived the msrp was higher than my order price so I got it below msrp at 38K!!!. My husband then picked up an order for a carbonized grey lux obx before order banks closed in 22, and when that arrived I traded the big bend for that four door and got paid above the price I paid so no negative equity!!! My son drove the two door sas for awhile but think I am getting it back in the meantime I drove about two hours to pick up a Pilot for a family vehicle... but I agree that was the only way to get a good deal (aka msrp) was to do a wide search. Anyways watching new videos as I need to do a few tweaks to the Sasquatch. I wish I got a manual but at the time no one but me could drive a manual in my family of four drivers. I have searched for new ones as I would pick a two door with manual or 2.7 but now you can't build one for less than 50K so I will just modify the one I have as it is closer to being paid off which is better than a new payment... there are things I like about the base models but sure wish they put those 12 inch screens on all vehicles in 22 and I do wish I had the mid package with heated seats because I loved the heated cloth seats from my big bend and I miss the cactus grey!!! but those are minor details and some things I liked they are not making anymore!!!!
Good content - We ended up paying $1,000 over MSRP. I refuse to talk to any dealer who talks Payments - I walk.... They gave us a generous trade-in as well. Very Happy.
why pay anymore that msrp? the lots have been filling up with broncos in the Boston area for the last month and today I was offered a choice of 2 different 4 door broncos with hard top and soft tops that were coming in 2 weeks. One with leather, one had cloth. Both for msrp 🤷
@@INVERTEDBUKAKI What they "offer" and what's actually on the contract are often two very different amounts.
Great great information. Thanks for making this video!
I ordered my Bronco 4Dr Badlands Sasquatch, within the first month on the first round of ordering. It took 2.
4 years for me to take delivery. I actually forgot about it at one point. I ordered it exactly how I wanted it. I have had it now since August of 22, I have put over 16k miles on it. No issues whatsoever. I would be this vehicle a thousand times. I love driving it, it makes off-roading fun again. I no longer wofer if my vehicle will get me home after a few days on the trail. With the 2.7 twin turdo engine I can rip through the desert like a wild banshee. The after market stuff is really coming around too. I installed my own charging pad and everything. 🎉congrats on moving up to the big brother, you won't regret it.😊
Love your enthusiasm and knowledge and preparation.. Great job the two of you.
Thank you!
Finally got a 4 door black Diamond at msrp this week as well. Great video- one nitpick- the steelies are not only black, but they are 17”. I believe the base model comes with non-black 16” steelies, so they are different wheels.
Excellent review, great info. I currently have a Black Diamond 4dr in cactus gray on order and can't wait for it to arrive. Congrats on your Bronco and enjoy your many adventures!!!
Congrats! Your journey begins…. Good job on the negotiation. Seems like most dealers give the experience you described. It was similar to ours as well.
You two are awesome.
Loved your video, what an ordeal that was for you guys!!! Glad you got the Bronco you wanted. I was a reservation holder on day 2 of the pre-order on the release. Put my Dealership info on the order and it was done. 2 days later they contacted me to finalize my order and the price. It was straight up MSRP, no market adjustment, no nothing. December 5th 2021 I drove my 2021 Race Red 2 door Badlands home and I still love it so much you couldn't offer me enough to part with it. My Baby. I must say, the dealership and management make all the difference in the world when buying new vehicles. I have dealt with Cam Clark Ford in Airdrie Alberta Canada since 2005 with all our vehicle purchases and have never had any problems what so ever. Glad to hear you love your Bronco and Rock on Bronco. Man are they fun off road!!
That is because in Canada they cannot charge you over MSRP on new vehicles like in the US. Once they are considered used all bets are off though. Where i live in washington state they are trying to sell a ton of used Canadian market Broncos as well. So the sticker looks close until you realize its in loonys 🙂 Buyer beware!
Strange days we're living in! Where if you managed to get your car for list price, you got a great deal! Sounds like the postwar new car customers in 1946 were treated better.
I bought the big bend , has just enough stuff that I need coming from a 22 tundra that was loaded to the max of opinions I rarely used, so far I’m happy with the bronco
Good video to show others, who may not know, how to deal with dealers. One difference between the base and Black Diamond steelies is their size... Base = 16", Black Diamond = 17", tire type & size as well. 👍
That's a nice Bronco, glad you found a Manual!
Congrats!!Beautiful Bronco! Have you experienced the dreaded transmission grind/ rock tumbler noise yet? Seems like it eventually affects all of them. I got it on day one & my car has been at the dealership for almost 3 months waiting for the redesigned transmission to arrive. Worst of all I had to pay a 1200 mark up on a mt black diamond hardtop 4dr. All in all, I'm not overly disappointed and can't wait to get my car back lol. Great video, subscribed!
I had the same experience with my 21 Bronco sport outer banks., Took It to the dealership they said that was normal I call them out on their BS traded it in for a bad lands so far no issues.
Does Tremec make that manual?
@@MisterMikeTexas Getrag makes them in China for Ford
@@MrBeautalkz Damn Wall Street! Shouldn't hold such a corner-cutting control like that!
Congrats. Sorry that getting it was such a hassle, but I while my experience was far less stressful, it took over a year. I ordered a stick too, had a salesman ask if I was really sure, but that crawl gear is so good off-road, I'm glad I did. Maybe I'll see y'all and wave if you come back to the Joshua Trees.
Way to go! 🎉
Really nice ride, and glad you didn’t overpay.
Get an approval for a auto loan with a bank beforehand. Banks especially credit unions almost always have lower APR & 100% finance if needed. Now you’re Free to shop without dealer markups & high APR financing. Just don’t tell the dealer you have it before the deal/$ is clear & on paper. Ask them to beat the terms you have with the bank or use the check from the bank.
Congrats on your new Bronco. This morning, 20 April 2023, was shocked to get Ford's notification that my March 2023 order for a 2-door 2023 Badlands w/all the goodies and VIN was scheduled for production in June, 2023. I was shocked because many new Bronco owners reported waiting 2 years for their orders.
Great build! Congrats 🎉🙌
Hey, I'm curious how this works. Do you put a down payment? Start paying the car off right away? Or do you make no paymentd until you actually get the car?
@@lucerocastaneda9497 I pay for my vehicles upon receipt, no loans, etc. My local Ford dealer did not require a deposit. Paying upfront saves a lot of money.
@@problu9586 oh wow, that's kind of surprising that they dont require a deposit! Thanks for the info! Planning to get mine at the end of the year 🤞
@@lucerocastaneda9497 I put my order in for a Heritage and put down 500$ for the order so the dealer knows you are serious about buying it
I originally ordered my bronco on March 9, 2021. I think it was the base model with the Sasquatch package.
Around 8-10 months later I upgraded my order for the first time to the 2022 big bend model with the Sasquatch package.
When figured out I wasn’t getting the 2022 model. I changed my order to the Wildtrak model with the lux package and changed the color to Area 51.
2 doors and one level below the Raptor.
Finally after 25 months and 2 upgrades from my original order and date, I finally got my Bronco.
Does anyone remember the email Ford sent out at the end of January?
Informing everyone who were still waiting on their bronco orders.
If we wanted a better chance to get a 2023 Bronco, that we only had 3 models to choose from! I was pisssed!
I told the salesman I contacted at the dealership to cancel my effing order after he answered a few questions I had.
Like I said, I was pissed!
I was researching on how to order a 2023 Shelby Mustang, when I received a email on 2/9/23 informing me that
my Bronco was scheduled for production on the week of 03/27/2023 and to disregard the email from Ford.
I’m in the process deciding if I want a wrangler or a bronco.
Is there a story as to why you wanted the 2 door? Was it solely to get the manual? Or something else? And maybe your long term thoughts on how you like it compared to your Bronco Sport?
I wanted the two door because in my opinion I liked the way it looked better. When we were looking for Broncos there wasn't much out there either so it just so happened this two door manual was the one I could get for the price I wanted. I honestly love my Bronco. It is by far my favorite vehicle I have ever owned. I also loved the Bronco Sport but mostly because it was practical whereas my Bronco is more fun to drive.
Gawd. This is the only industry trap in the 70's. It's not gonna break my heart when the dealerships go under.
I got a Bronco 4dr Badlands Sasquatch, had to wait 16 months for it, but pd msrp…..if do your homework you can find a legit dealer to order from who won’t gash you with markups
That background has GTA 5 vibes!! Perfect rig for it!
Congratulations! I’m looking for a base manual 2 door! Where did u buy? I live in Commifornia!
Thank you! We intentionally didn't say the name of the dealership as we didn't want to promote them since we didn't have the best experience. And all their Broncos had markup.
Dude, I lucked up and got my 2-door big bend at MSRP by calling dealers from different states around California. I originally placed an order for a 4dr base sas, but the dealer in california never got back to me, and it's been 11 months. Almost every dealer in california wants 10k to 20k over msrp for Broncos actively on the lots.
I was set on getting a bronco but greedy ford sales tactics turned me off. I would recommend waiting to get a bronco. Prices will drop like a rock. Competitors like jeep have caught up with their inventory storage and you get a 2023 wrangler for $10k+ off MSRP.
Ford is seriously considering online ordering. It is the only way I would buy.
The story telling of you both is amazing
Good video…with the recession pushing buyers away due to shifting priorities and unaffordable interest rates I am betting on softening demand and an increased supply of used units to pick from. I tried the order bank and Ford can’t even get the website right as I printed the order and submitted it into a black hole with no confirmation, order number, nothing! The dealer I selected called me immediately and didn’t even realize I was placing an order. Research afterwards showed my 7 speed manual transmission selection is no longer available but the Ford website allowed the order to continue and gave me no indication of any issues after submitting!
Well, I'm 71, and before I retired I had bought 16 brand new Chevy/GMC trucks from 1973 to 2012. I still own my 2012 2500HD Silverado with 32K miles on it. When new, I had the best undercoating/rust prevention done before loading it with aftermarket accessories to make it mine. 12 months ago I was offered $35k for it. I paid $38k for the base truck in 2012! It's an LT with everything but leather! What I learned over 16 deals, ALL car dealers are lying, cheating, no good, scum sucking, rotten to the core, thieving, useless pieces of crap that should be in jail not selling cars/trucks!! That about sums it up. 8) --gary
These dealerships have gotten out of control with markups. I will never take something that’s on the lot ever again unless it’s exactly what I want. Otherwise I always plan to order.
Msrp in the bay area for a bronco is 60k really ridiculous for what your getting
My sister just bought a 2023 bronco big ben in chicago that ford dealer was pushey $6,000 ad on to sticker for paint protection, warranty on tires, and other items told the sales men we won't buy the bronco if thay didn't remove the extra price I don't know what she paid but I'd never buy from that dealership bad experience
I clicked the buy button on the Tesla website and it showed up at my house.
Congrats on buying the most recalled car with the worst build quality of any brand. Even worse than Chrysler products which is quite an achievement.
I ordered a base and an outerbanks and the outer banks is already scheduled
❤Thank you for sharing God bless you
Why even deal witha company like Ford if their dealer network can't even get orders right for the customer. Especially when they're marking up the MSRP of said product.
Yep...Ford has more recalls than any other company. They should be working hard to convince customers to buy their junk.
@@wvjeepguy8178 yup, and I've been a Ford guy for years but my next vehicle may very well be another make. Hell I'd take a Nissan truck over the F150 or Ranger anymore.
Pathetic that guy questioned you multiple times assuming you didn’t know how to drive a manual. I love pointing out to people that my aunt is who taught me how to drive a standard transmission when they’re being misogynistic.
I desperately don't want to deal with dealerships any more. So anti-consumer it's painful. Wish more manufacturers sold direct.
its a shame the everglades got discontinued so quickly
I only buy cars below invoice price. I guess there's no chance of that with this truck.
Is $39,521 a good deal on a 2d 2.7 OBX advanced 4x4 with high, tow, and aux switches? The MSRP is $51,270.
weird got mine for MSRP .....................only took 2 years lol
Good job and vert smart adbice. Congrats on the vehicle. I hope its all working out for you 7 months later. Perhaps it will make you feel even better. When I tell you, I have been a hostage negotiator for 19 years and I still paid MSRP. You crushed it! And I further agree that it's great to bring along your own support person who can help you do sanity checks along the way. After all, they are doing this right in front of you by running to and from the managers office and pretending there's no more wiggle room. It's great theatrics for you to be able to do that and duck off to a corner have one of their free coffees, and talk to your friend to get their feelings on things.
good job,,
Ordering a 2023? I dunno what that feels like since I'm still waiting for the one I ordered in 2021...
😞
Never paid over MSRP
I have 2 bronco one base and a black diamond both for msrp.
Did you order them?
@Auto Journey yes one took 3 months and the other took 7 months. Both ate 22 they were ordered 3 months apart
Luckily, it took me 2 years to get a msrp deal outside california.
My local dealers have black diamonds and outer banks available. Debating if Sasquatch is worth it or not for the look
The base Sasquatch we test drove looked pretty sweet, however, in this current market we went the best deal. You can essentially do your own Sasquatch package in the aftermarket.
@@AutoJourney that’s probably the smartest move! Thank you
I have sasquatch. Don't find it worth it for the look but do find it worth it off-road. I'd have been hard-pressed to get an aftermarket equivalent in the same price, and that would be harder to finance and harder to re-sell if I ever need to.
Good looking ride I have a 22 black diamond 2 door eruption green July the 12th will be a year since I got it almost 25k on it heading to Colorado and Moab next week so possibly over 30k the first year lol
How much does it cost ?
Will the manual be also available in canada?
Bought my 2dr OBX Lux six months ago at $2,500 *under* MSRP. The markups are now a myth. I see Bronco's sitting on lots all around where I live. Sure, there were $20k markups a year ago, but with interest rates being what they are and the economy spiraling off a cliff, nobody is buying these things with markups. Hell, the dealer I purchased from has a 2dr OBX, 2.7, High, Sas at MSRP and it's been sitting on the lot for months. It's a REALLY nice looking Bronco!
What state are you in? All the dealerships we contacted in SoCal had markup on every single Bronco. Sounds like you got a sweet deal!
How much did they give you for your badlands? I’ve been on the fence of doing the same thing
Initially, the Kelley Blue Book (KBB) estimate set our expectations too high at 35k-36k, but we were eventually able to settle on a trade-in value of 34k after negotiation. Most other dealerships were offering trade-in values between 30-32k for our Badlands. Being Cyber Orange, having Ford CoPilot 360 Assist+, as well as having the roof rack helped.
I had an easier but similar situation. My 2 door 2022 wildtrak had $30k markup. They did offer me $33k on my Bronco Sport Badlands from 2020.
In the end they knocked down markup to $6k, because I told them what my monthly needed to be and that I didn't NEED this Bronco, just wanted.
Did you get the extended warranty?
Nope!
Ford doing the Rolex thing . Kinda sad , I’d actually buy one if I could get / find a base
Your wheels are not the same as a base other than they're both steel they are different sizes
Good catch! We overlooked the fact that the base model actually has 16-inch wheels, while the Black Diamond model comes with 17-inch wheels, even though their designs are quite similar. Thank you for pointing this out, and we'll make sure to keep it in mind for our next video!
@@AutoJourney I bought my Bronco two-door Big bend Sasquatch from a dealer that sold at MSRP
You would have been "PRICE PROTECTED" when you order a new unit.
This $hit is so ridiculous. Why is it so fuck!ng hard to buy a Ford? This is ridiculous. Ford needs to fix this.
I watch this video I own a bronco as well black diamond but I couldn’t help get over you kept calling it a car it’s not a car. It’s a truck don’t sell yourself short. Your bronco sport was a car.
Jesus I would have said fug it and bought a Jeep
A lot of time dealerships will take advantage of women they act like they are clueless on what they want my personal opion is. That they don’t want to deal with women women have a man go with. You like a brother or maybe your dad
Short answer…..write a check.
I’m my opinion you paid way too much for a manual Black Diamond. Black Diamond is essentially a Base minus the marine grade vinyl seats, which you can get for under $500. The wheel rims are painted black, $0. I know you all did your research. There have been numerous issues with the manual transmission. The fact that you got a 2 door is a plus, because they are only making 10% of them. So that will hold its value. Here are my reasons for buying Base. Paid $32k. Spent $7k on upgrades. 35” tires. 3 1/2 lift kit. Gutted out the awful stereo system and added a 12 inch sub woofer on the tailgate. Added rock lights, Bronco letters on the grill in bright white lights. Total investment. $39k.
Dealerships are turning Base Broncos into $55k Broncos with some vinyl decals, bigger wheels and tires which is ridiculous. And like we mentioned you can't currently order a Base Bronco or a manual transmission. Considering our Black Diamond is $42k and that's essentially the starting price, I don't believe it's accurate to say we "paid way too much" for it. You're comparing your modified Base Bronco to a different trim that comes from the factory with a rear locking differential, steel front and rear bumpers, rock rails, bash plates, auxiliary switches, rubberized flooring, marine-grade vinyl seats and 17-inch wheels (vs 16s on the base). As far as any issues with the manual transmission, that's what warranties are for. We are very happy with our Black Diamond and we think it was worth every penny. But either way we're happy you're able to enjoy owning a Bronco, some people are still waiting on theirs!
Black diamond also has a locking differential, metal bumpers, and skid plates. I'd've bought one if it had a camera option.
A year ago. You wouldn’t paid that price. But that’s neither here nor there. I know you wanted to trade in your Bronco Sport. The problem is, you came to the Bronco party, two years too late. So it didn’t matter how you thought you negotiated a good deal. You still overpaid! Just saying
Buying new cars sucks
13 minutes of talking about the dearlership out of 16 minutes video...
The video is about BUYING a vehicle...?
Hopefully Ford goes the way of Pontiac
Bailed out of video as halfway through and still no review of the actual vehicle
This video wasn't labeled as a review, that's coming soon! Thanks for watching!
Recalls yet on that Fiesta, sorry "so-called Bronco"? 🤣🤣🤣
Rediculous. The base model should be ~$28K.
Ford isn't even offering a base model with the 2024 model year. The cheapest Bronco you can order now is around $42k....
Alot of dealrship "order the wrong model" but really its ford trying to sell vehicles that are harder to sell i.e. manual but making it seem like the buyer is getting some sort of deal when its all false.