1st guy - Totally worth $20. Not perfect but 100% worth $20. 2nd guy - Could easily charge twice as much. 3rd guy - Pay the man whatever what he wants.
Hey Travis thanks a lot for the work and featuring me in your video! I had no idea what it was for when I was recording so to see this pop up on a channel that I watch was a good surprise. 😃
That black dude with the beard is one of the best players I've ever seen. His spatial awareness over the fret board and control between the strings is crazy.
Listened to you on Spotify; very Kevin Sherwood/Elena Siegman but more modern prog with a better bass player. Feels like you'd sound better live, though
Martin plays a Music Man Bongo, which is the signature model for John Myung from Dream Theater. Maybe that explains his main kind of music and why he didn't even break a sweat at the ending 😄
When I saw his face my first thought was "This man can play Acid Rain by heart", granted that's LTE so it's Tony Levin and not John Myung on the bass, but same deal, almost quite literally.
@@bassimprovjams3772 Liquid Tension Experiment, is a band, that solely consists of Dream Theater members who are not John Myung. Bass is played by Tony Levin. It's prog metal, but without vocals.
I also think it's hilarious that many of the guys slid up chromatically on the last part, considering it's a paid job. 🙃 I would try to slow it down and actually figure it out but I think you nailed it when it comes to how a gospel-style player would approach playing the track.
okay i dont know if this is only my take or someone elses as well but... i think this guy is a slight bit insufferable. I mean, I understand that he might be an expert in his gospel field, but repeating every minute that gospel is such a difficult genre and that even the best cannot play it is really a pain to listen to. as if you do not need feel in each and every genre. Then, i found kind of low discrediting the first player like that for not playing "note for note" as he meant because "thats whatcha do with gospel". Like, if you play master of puppets you also have to play it note for note, and if you play the sir duke brass break you also play it note for note. What would the 20 dollars guy know that in gospel you "have to play it note for note"? after all, the track you sent is just a funky soul-ish track for who is not acquainted to the genre. No need to talk so negatively about this guy.
Yeah, I kind of agree. I think his criticism was fair, but he could have expressed himself a bit better. Gospel of course requires a different feel than metal or jazz or funk, so obviously those who know the style really well will have a better feel for the style. But the same would apply to all of those styles. I think it would have been helpful if he had talked about what exactly creates a good "gospel feel", and how the other players' feels differed from that. He did touch on some of that when critiquing the first guy - the talk about note length was helpful. But all in all, I dislike the use of vague words like "feel". In this case, it simply seems to mean "this guy knows the style really well" or "this guy doesn't know the style that well". Obviously those who don't play the style that much won't know the style that well, so they will naturally play some stuff that someone who knows the style well wouldn't play. Make a gospel musician (who has never played metal) play metal, and they aren't going to have the right feel for the style either - they are very likely going to play a lot of stuff that sounds weird, and just doesn't fit the song. Then again, I do appreciate him not being afraid to say what he feels (without being mean-spirited - it was clearly meant as constructive criticism, not hate). Too many people in the CZcams react scene just say "wow, that's amazing" to everything, or "this sucks" if the point is to "hate-watch" stuff. What I liked about his comments was that he seemed genuine. He wasn't performing for the camera by doing an exaggerated reaction. But I do agree that he could still have expressed himself a bit better. Just because the first guy was pretty good, doesn't mean there wasn't a lot of room for improvement (I actually think it's great to see a pretty good player being critiqued, because most of the time this kind of critique is only given to beginners - it simply shows how much better you can be than "pretty good"). But I think most of it was stylistic knowledge. I think his slap part was good, and I didn't notice any obviously wrong notes. But someone who knows the style is better at judging the bass part by the standards of the style. It isn't that it sounded bad in an objective sense (although his tone wasn't that great). It was more that it probably wasn't something any gospel musician would have played. But again, that's also why I think he should have expressed himself better when it comes to the critique. If you aren't familiar with the style, you won't really understand why he reacted so negatively to some of it. To my ears, it sounded good, because I don't know gospel (and I actually really liked the slap part, even though this guy seemed to hate it). I could easily hear that the 3rd guy played the most stylistically appropriate stuff, though. It's just more difficult to hear the nuances of "not 100% stylistically appropriate, but still technically good" playing when you don't know what to compare it to.
Yeah, I agree. The guy seems a bit arrogant, like "gospel is the best because it has the most feel and you have to be the best musician to play gospel and did I mention I play gospel?" As if rock, funk or jazz bass don't require "feel" or don't ever have complicated basslines. IMO that kind of none-too-subtle self-aggrandizement is a sign of hidden insecurity. Also complaining about the bassists not playing the exact notes when you didn't send them a chart is just stupid. _Also_ don't tell me "I ain't gonna beg you to subscribe" when you're literally begging me to subscribe. Like dude. First you brag while pretending you're not bragging, now you beg while pretending you're not begging. You have honesty issues.
@@xyzabc123-o1l Nah he has a point and you ain't refuted it. "Touch grass" is shit you say when someone goes on a 1,200 character rant about a K-pop star. "This guy comes across as a little conceited" is not a "touch grass" situation. IMO, good to call out people's BS when you see it. 23 people thought about the vibe the guy's giving off and it'll make them think about how they come across too (we hope.)
I actually liked guy #2 the best. His tone was killer, it was so snappy, and that tap was exciting. The 3rd guy was really good too, but wasn't exciting, not crazy about his tone either.
I reckon the second guy's specialty is prog metal based on the 5-string bass, skill at tapping and general vibe. He provided more "colour" - his personality would shine through in the right kind of band. The third guy is most likely a pro session musician who takes Fiverr gigs as a side hustle. He's used to playing anything and everything and his MO is to "blend in" to a track - as a sessionist, you aren't the main attraction, it's all about tying it together in a subtle way.
I m writing this comment after chapest one offer.... So my question is: did u sent him charts? You are telling us now, that he is playing wrong notes... But this notes ARE in harmony.
First video I've seen of yours. Horrible first impression. "I don't want to tear anyone down" - proceeds to laugh and mock the guy. I've seen enough of you.
@@didi5617this wasn't constructive criticism, it's just criticism. To be constructive points on how to improve are needed and even then its still douchey when he's still laughing at the guy.
Yeah plus he spends like the entire time talking about how gospel is a tough genre to play and you have to be a really good player to play gospel and... by the way, did I mention I play gospel? Cause I play gospel. It's really tough and mere mortals can't play it. But I do... not that I'm bragging or anything!
@@didi5617 Not constructive at all. Let's look at how he treated $20 guy: 1) Made a big issue of him not wanting to be filmed. $20 guy might usually be okay filming himself but might have got cold feet when he found out this was going to be a CZcams video. He might not want his face all over the internet. Fair enough. 2) Made a big issue of him playing the wrong notes when he failed to provide sheet music, so the guy had to learn it by ear. Bear in mind he's being paid $20 - he can't spend all day learning it or it's not worth it. 3) Made a big issue of the guy not attempting the complicated, difficult final section. Again, $20; doesn't make sense financially for the guy to spend all day nailing down this one complicated section. 4) Made absolutely no suggestions about how to learn by ear, what creative choices might fit better in a gospel context, how to get the right bass tone etc. _Constructive_ criticism requires _advice_ - "here's how you might do it better", as opposed to just "this isn't good enough". After all that, this guy has the brass balls to say he's "not here to tear anyone down" after doing nothing but picking on $20 guy's tone, creative choices and playing the whole time! It doesn't help that this guy spent the whole video talking about how he's hot shit because he plays gospel, which is a really hard genre to play, and gospel musicians are just superior beings, and gospel is played with feel (inferior musicians who play other genres just wouldn't get it), oh and by the way I'm a gospel musician, not bragging, just throwing that out there. Gross. I thought gospel was about praising the Lord... this guy could use a little humility!
Im on Fivrr and I NEVER take note-for-note requests... I improvise. Thats what I do. I have no interest is trying to sit there and tab out some intricate improvisations and runs... Not worth my time, and I dont enjoy it... I love getting requests where I can let my artistic ability and musicality be free to interpretation and always create something new... It was a fun little challenge though for sure.
As someone who watches CZcams vids on their phone, gotta say, I honestly maybe heard like 6 total notes played by each player. Gotta do something with that eq for the common man my dude. For all could tell it was just the backing track the entire time.
The first one was the cheapest and you got what you paid for. That second one is funky, I like that alot. The third guy did it how it sounds, it definitely needed some tapping if you can't move your fingers that fast along the board. The last guy, he was in his element - that's not fair to the other players 😂 Also, I think it's interesting you expected note for note without sheet music. Even the Fake Books or "official" tabs written by pros have wrong notes 😂
Do I clearly understand that you did not provide those players with a written chart or Tabs ? Just the track, and having to learn what is on it ??? For 20.$ ? If that is the case, I would politely decline. I also find your critique valid to a (small) degree, but it seems you did not give them specific instructions. Worse of all, what I perceive is that the guys were presented with a somewhat 'fictitious', virtuoso bass line that you see as Extremely stylistic to a genre. So what ? Let's test a Gospel player attempt a simple Cole Porter tune and see how he does...
Shoot if he would’ve asked me to play Love For Sale or Night and Day I would’ve easily preferred to play one of those instead of that crazy gospel track. 😂 All Travis knew was I’m a professional session musician with a page on Fiverr. Gospel is just one thing I happen to know well but I study and play just about any genre you can think of at a high level. Except bluegrass 😳
@@BrandonMeeksMusic Hello, your response has made me smile. Your are a truly remarkable musician. And your playing is assuredly a kick-in-the-butt to all instrumentalists watching this performance. (I must acknowledge the fantastic skills of the other players selected for this presentation). For some reason, it reminded me of the parable in the Bible, and I will paraphrase : «What have you done with the talent I have entrusted you with ?». Well, you certainly did not waste time developing your gift. I am a pianist and I thank you for the inspiration !
I found the guy's constant harping on about how gospel is super difficult to play, requires loads of feel, etc. etc. kinda obnoxious considering he is himself a gospel musician. I'm not saying it's not _true_ but it's also true that jazz, prog rock/metal, soul, funk etc. can also have complicated basslines and bassists within those genres can also have a distinct "feel". In that light, his criticisms come across worse. No advice on how to get the "right" bass tone. No advice on how to break down and learn complicated sections by ear. Just "this isn't good enough". After all that talking about how great he is... eww. I picked up a kind of insecurity here that manifested as a veiled arrogance. Not saying he's a bad guy, just there was a slightly sour vibe about the whole thing.
I just started learning gospel guitar and I tell you what.. It’s some incredible players out there. I’ve only been playing a year and 3 months and this is the toughest genre for me. But.. I love it!
@@Jayyy_Wav Oh yes I’ve been creating R&B music for years, but I just picked up guitar. Once I started playing, I realized how skilled gospel players are.
This is soooooo good! There was something about Martin that was super intriguing - maybe it was the stone cold look as he navigated the fretboard. I dig Brandon though--super professional Fiverr profile, killer feel, effortless butter on his playing! Well worth the watch! 🙌🔥🎸
Feel like Martin would fit better in a band context, assuming it's the right kind of band (I reckon his primary wheelhouse is prog metal based on the 5-string, tapping and general vibe) while Brandon is most likely a pro session musician. Martin provides more "colour" to a song, Brandon effortlessly fits within _any_ song.
My fingers and brain hurt just listening and looking at these guys, especially the last two. All three were good, but the last two were fantastic. Guess it's time to venture to gospel from the bass side of things.
1:55 no offense, but to me this sounds like cheap infomercial, midi file played by win media player like, synth pattern like ..sound ...is this really what gospel feeling sound like??
That black guy at the end just jumps out of the screen. Sits so nice in the track, bang on the money time wise, sweet feel, all the chops, the mark of a truly brilliant bassist. Get your wallet out. But the second guy was no slouch.
you made my day and excite dbecause i felt the genuiness of all you said. yes feel and execution is what differentiates a real gospel bazz player...you are good sir
They all did a very good job. Martins tapping at the end was very cool. The last guy reeks of gospel all the way. Great job guys!!! Be careful Travis, this last guy may take your job! LOL
As a drummer of various genres. I can say that gospel music is the most challenging music I have played. And that is in the face of jazz fusion, jazz funk, and classic rock and soul. The changes and breaks alone will force you to be at your very best!!
I like this kind of video! Cool seeing how different players approach it. I saw a gospel bassist on Scott's Bass Lessons KILL hearing Iron Maiden for the first time. Made me realize how amazing gospel bassists are hearing music. Justin Raines was amazing!
As an owner of a Sire V8, I can also attest to the tone of the Sire bass. It’s absolute fire whether I’m out on a gig or recording. It’s the one I reach for when I need to nail the tone of a song. Glad to see it’s being represented by a pro!
Gospel music is a product of the Black church. There's a reason why the last guy "feels" better. Because what's in him is where Gospel music comes from. Truth is truth. He understood what tone was needed because he felt what tone was needed. He added the little extras (bends and vibrato) because he "felt" that's where they belonged. We are not all the same inside, because God didn't make us all the same inside... and Gospel music is proof of that. It's not about theory. We break SO many theoretical rules and THAT'S why our music sounds different from ANY other kind of music. We play from our hearts, and what's in our hearts (in the Black church) is different. The theory is understood, but we don't let it limit us. This comes from inside us. It can be mimicked, but not duplicated (as proven in this video). And it is not a style. There are lots of styles covered in Gospel music (as you mentioned). That's why Gospel musicians are so versatile. Thanks for the shoutout and respect to the genre in this vid, Travis.
before watching this video, I thought Gospel was just some religious dudes singing basic major chord progressions. Cool to hear that there is more to it
Brilliant idea that one Travis and hats off to those guy’s, well done. I, along with lots will be attempting to learn it. A little challenge 👍🏻 God Bless
#3 - has a Sire bass. Looks like a P8 5 String? I have an M7 (and had a V7 before). Excellent bass and a great price. Travis - you should demo one sometime!
Hi, Travis!!! I really enjoyed listening to AND LEARNING your Track. it's interesting that you got so many different comment about how Gospel Theory is so difficult to understand. I got MY start in the Gospel world 50 Years ago... And, I've learned a LOT from it as well as in other genres of Music. Now as a Touring Pro, I STILL try to learn as many things as possible! I JUST got in from a Gig and started working on my Music for Tomorrow's Service... And, I HAD to run over YOUR Tracks again... IOt's such FUN!!! I even de-ciphered the Final Scale and learned it BACKWARDS just for fun!!! I DID subscribe to your You Tube page. Looking forward to seeing more from you, my New Friend!!! Stay Blessed!!! BTW, your Keyboardist/Partner is AWESOME!!! I HATE HIM!!!😆😆😆😆
I feel like american / black gospel should be their own genre Like international famous gospel "band" like hillsong, planetshakers, etc is not like these I feel like these should become their own genre, idk whats the name but most of the world didnt play like this on their gospel(churches) songs
Groups like Hillsong, Passion, Elevation are CCM which is its own thing. Planetshakers have some more rock and edm influences but definitely some CCM in there too. Gospel is very different and very much a genre of itself.
i have the same Bass as the last one have "marcus miller p8" the tonal range and sound you can get from it are insane, ( i have the 4 string version thou)
Yikes! This guy! Ummm yo! Wait up! The last guy is the difference between using accents in a foreign language and a foreigner speaking it for the first time. You can hear the embellishments and the seasoning he added to the part! You get what you pay for! AMAZING!
1st guy - Totally worth $20. Not perfect but 100% worth $20.
2nd guy - Could easily charge twice as much.
3rd guy - Pay the man whatever what he wants.
Nicely put
I'm blown away at the quality of all these takes to be honest
😂 💯
Definitely well said my man!
2nd guy was the best!
Hey Travis thanks a lot for the work and featuring me in your video! I had no idea what it was for when I was recording so to see this pop up on a channel that I watch was a good surprise. 😃
Man your touch is crazyyyy🔥
You killed it!
U def earned me subscribing to your channel my guy!!! You better Playyyyy boy!! 🔥🔥🔥
@@josephmukoko674Thank you! 🙏🏾
@@DanielAlexander-ci1oiThanks bro!
last dude puts his bass in bed and sleeps on the couch im sure
😂😂😂
He is in my band ATAN man , ridiculous bass player.😉
😂😂😂
Lololol!! Yes he does
I burst out laughing with sheer delight at Martin's tapping riff, that was SO slick
He's like.... that's how I play it.... and that was cool.
The Gospel Track sounds like a Mario Kart tune. Also sounds like Jazz fusion in general.
I was just about to say that. 😂
praise the koopa!
Thank God it wasn't just me hearing that. Felt like Mario was gonna pop-in with a "let's-a-go!" at any moment.
It sounds a lot like sped-up japanese city pop, which as it happens is what inspired Mario kart music!
I was getting Donkey Kong vibes.
That man is a prog man, look at him. The epitome of posture, comfort, and precision, that man is ready to play anything.
I was so excited to hear the music that I forgot I was watching on a phone 😭 didnt hear a single bass note
That black dude with the beard is one of the best players I've ever seen. His spatial awareness over the fret board and control between the strings is crazy.
And he made it look soooo easy;
Marcin is in my band called ATAN and it is prog metal crazy stuff, he can play anything really !!
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Thats siqq!
Listened to you on Spotify; very Kevin Sherwood/Elena Siegman but more modern prog with a better bass player. Feels like you'd sound better live, though
Haha, I knew he was a prog metal guy from the 5-string bass and the crazy tapping skill!
Tell Marcin he rocks! And I'll go listen to ATAN.
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Martin plays a Music Man Bongo, which is the signature model for John Myung from Dream Theater.
Maybe that explains his main kind of music and why he didn't even break a sweat at the ending 😄
Definitely! I was happy to see a J MM bongo! Myung is my bass God next to Ryan Martinie lol glad you mentioned Myung 🤘😂😎
When I saw his face my first thought was "This man can play Acid Rain by heart", granted that's LTE so it's Tony Levin and not John Myung on the bass, but same deal, almost quite literally.
@@ericmyrs I gotta admit this comment is confusing the heck out of me lol
@@bassimprovjams3772 Liquid Tension Experiment, is a band, that solely consists of Dream Theater members who are not John Myung. Bass is played by Tony Levin. It's prog metal, but without vocals.
I kinda liked the first guy's made up slap part
I like it too.
it was my fav
Martin was on point (Second guy. Did not even break sweat). Brandon knocked it out the Park. Totally. Worth the cost.
The synth bass part definitely isn't 100% synonymous with the real thing but the "feel" is there!
I also think it's hilarious that many of the guys slid up chromatically on the last part, considering it's a paid job. 🙃 I would try to slow it down and actually figure it out but I think you nailed it when it comes to how a gospel-style player would approach playing the track.
@@rashuninbloom Agreed, especially when being paid to learn & play it.
I'm not a bass player, I am a drummer though and I can tell you, the slap version on the first person Alex had me rocking! For $20...Hmmmm! 12:03
Gospel musician are in a their own class. Shout out to all Gospel musicians…
Oh trust me, Gospel is not the only genre with crazy bassists.
The tapped out ending sounded better.
for sure more articulated
okay i dont know if this is only my take or someone elses as well but... i think this guy is a slight bit insufferable. I mean, I understand that he might be an expert in his gospel field, but repeating every minute that gospel is such a difficult genre and that even the best cannot play it is really a pain to listen to. as if you do not need feel in each and every genre. Then, i found kind of low discrediting the first player like that for not playing "note for note" as he meant because "thats whatcha do with gospel". Like, if you play master of puppets you also have to play it note for note, and if you play the sir duke brass break you also play it note for note. What would the 20 dollars guy know that in gospel you "have to play it note for note"? after all, the track you sent is just a funky soul-ish track for who is not acquainted to the genre. No need to talk so negatively about this guy.
It's Constructive Criticism. You can't say it's perfect if it's not. Also the point of the video is that this is difficult.
Yeah, I kind of agree. I think his criticism was fair, but he could have expressed himself a bit better.
Gospel of course requires a different feel than metal or jazz or funk, so obviously those who know the style really well will have a better feel for the style. But the same would apply to all of those styles. I think it would have been helpful if he had talked about what exactly creates a good "gospel feel", and how the other players' feels differed from that.
He did touch on some of that when critiquing the first guy - the talk about note length was helpful. But all in all, I dislike the use of vague words like "feel". In this case, it simply seems to mean "this guy knows the style really well" or "this guy doesn't know the style that well". Obviously those who don't play the style that much won't know the style that well, so they will naturally play some stuff that someone who knows the style well wouldn't play. Make a gospel musician (who has never played metal) play metal, and they aren't going to have the right feel for the style either - they are very likely going to play a lot of stuff that sounds weird, and just doesn't fit the song.
Then again, I do appreciate him not being afraid to say what he feels (without being mean-spirited - it was clearly meant as constructive criticism, not hate). Too many people in the CZcams react scene just say "wow, that's amazing" to everything, or "this sucks" if the point is to "hate-watch" stuff. What I liked about his comments was that he seemed genuine. He wasn't performing for the camera by doing an exaggerated reaction. But I do agree that he could still have expressed himself a bit better.
Just because the first guy was pretty good, doesn't mean there wasn't a lot of room for improvement (I actually think it's great to see a pretty good player being critiqued, because most of the time this kind of critique is only given to beginners - it simply shows how much better you can be than "pretty good"). But I think most of it was stylistic knowledge. I think his slap part was good, and I didn't notice any obviously wrong notes. But someone who knows the style is better at judging the bass part by the standards of the style. It isn't that it sounded bad in an objective sense (although his tone wasn't that great). It was more that it probably wasn't something any gospel musician would have played. But again, that's also why I think he should have expressed himself better when it comes to the critique. If you aren't familiar with the style, you won't really understand why he reacted so negatively to some of it. To my ears, it sounded good, because I don't know gospel (and I actually really liked the slap part, even though this guy seemed to hate it). I could easily hear that the 3rd guy played the most stylistically appropriate stuff, though. It's just more difficult to hear the nuances of "not 100% stylistically appropriate, but still technically good" playing when you don't know what to compare it to.
touch grass
Yeah, I agree. The guy seems a bit arrogant, like "gospel is the best because it has the most feel and you have to be the best musician to play gospel and did I mention I play gospel?"
As if rock, funk or jazz bass don't require "feel" or don't ever have complicated basslines.
IMO that kind of none-too-subtle self-aggrandizement is a sign of hidden insecurity.
Also complaining about the bassists not playing the exact notes when you didn't send them a chart is just stupid.
_Also_ don't tell me "I ain't gonna beg you to subscribe" when you're literally begging me to subscribe. Like dude. First you brag while pretending you're not bragging, now you beg while pretending you're not begging. You have honesty issues.
@@xyzabc123-o1l Nah he has a point and you ain't refuted it. "Touch grass" is shit you say when someone goes on a 1,200 character rant about a K-pop star. "This guy comes across as a little conceited" is not a "touch grass" situation.
IMO, good to call out people's BS when you see it. 23 people thought about the vibe the guy's giving off and it'll make them think about how they come across too (we hope.)
'There is no wrong note' - Victor Wooten
If you wanted it note for note, you could have provided a chart as to how you wanted it played.
I actually liked guy #2 the best. His tone was killer, it was so snappy, and that tap was exciting. The 3rd guy was really good too, but wasn't exciting, not crazy about his tone either.
I reckon the second guy's specialty is prog metal based on the 5-string bass, skill at tapping and general vibe. He provided more "colour" - his personality would shine through in the right kind of band.
The third guy is most likely a pro session musician who takes Fiverr gigs as a side hustle. He's used to playing anything and everything and his MO is to "blend in" to a track - as a sessionist, you aren't the main attraction, it's all about tying it together in a subtle way.
I m writing this comment after chapest one offer.... So my question is: did u sent him charts? You are telling us now, that he is playing wrong notes... But this notes ARE in harmony.
#2 facial expressions were everything. Who needs a stank face when you got the ultimate poker face.
*facial expression
What a legend 😍
First video I've seen of yours. Horrible first impression. "I don't want to tear anyone down" - proceeds to laugh and mock the guy. I've seen enough of you.
Constructive criticism to the artist and to everyone watching
@@didi5617this wasn't constructive criticism, it's just criticism. To be constructive points on how to improve are needed and even then its still douchey when he's still laughing at the guy.
Yeah plus he spends like the entire time talking about how gospel is a tough genre to play and you have to be a really good player to play gospel and... by the way, did I mention I play gospel? Cause I play gospel. It's really tough and mere mortals can't play it. But I do... not that I'm bragging or anything!
@@didi5617 Not constructive at all. Let's look at how he treated $20 guy:
1) Made a big issue of him not wanting to be filmed. $20 guy might usually be okay filming himself but might have got cold feet when he found out this was going to be a CZcams video. He might not want his face all over the internet. Fair enough.
2) Made a big issue of him playing the wrong notes when he failed to provide sheet music, so the guy had to learn it by ear. Bear in mind he's being paid $20 - he can't spend all day learning it or it's not worth it.
3) Made a big issue of the guy not attempting the complicated, difficult final section. Again, $20; doesn't make sense financially for the guy to spend all day nailing down this one complicated section.
4) Made absolutely no suggestions about how to learn by ear, what creative choices might fit better in a gospel context, how to get the right bass tone etc. _Constructive_ criticism requires _advice_ - "here's how you might do it better", as opposed to just "this isn't good enough".
After all that, this guy has the brass balls to say he's "not here to tear anyone down" after doing nothing but picking on $20 guy's tone, creative choices and playing the whole time!
It doesn't help that this guy spent the whole video talking about how he's hot shit because he plays gospel, which is a really hard genre to play, and gospel musicians are just superior beings, and gospel is played with feel (inferior musicians who play other genres just wouldn't get it), oh and by the way I'm a gospel musician, not bragging, just throwing that out there. Gross. I thought gospel was about praising the Lord... this guy could use a little humility!
I agree with this.
Im on Fivrr and I NEVER take note-for-note requests... I improvise. Thats what I do. I have no interest is trying to sit there and tab out some intricate improvisations and runs... Not worth my time, and I dont enjoy it... I love getting requests where I can let my artistic ability and musicality be free to interpretation and always create something new... It was a fun little challenge though for sure.
Yes, but it's to prevent musicians who do lazy improvisations, ignoring specific rhythmic accents and runs.
Yooooo, I didnt even think about tapping the last part 😮
gotta add tapping into gospel regime
Man I did a double take when I saw the guy that was tapping at the end…nice . But the guy at the end was on point as well …. Nice challenge bro!
Martin snapped😮💨😂
As someone who watches CZcams vids on their phone, gotta say, I honestly maybe heard like 6 total notes played by each player. Gotta do something with that eq for the common man my dude. For all could tell it was just the backing track the entire time.
The muted notes on player 3 really set the feel for me.
The tap from player 2 was a pleasant surprise!
The first one was the cheapest and you got what you paid for. That second one is funky, I like that alot. The third guy did it how it sounds, it definitely needed some tapping if you can't move your fingers that fast along the board. The last guy, he was in his element - that's not fair to the other players 😂
Also, I think it's interesting you expected note for note without sheet music. Even the Fake Books or "official" tabs written by pros have wrong notes 😂
Do I clearly understand that you did not provide those players with a written chart or Tabs ? Just the track, and having to learn what is on it ??? For 20.$ ? If that is the case, I would politely decline. I also find your critique valid to a (small) degree, but it seems you did not give them specific instructions. Worse of all, what I perceive is that the guys were presented with a somewhat 'fictitious', virtuoso bass line that you see as Extremely stylistic to a genre. So what ? Let's test a Gospel player attempt a simple Cole Porter tune and see how he does...
Yeah I thought it was wack.
Shoot if he would’ve asked me to play Love For Sale or Night and Day I would’ve easily preferred to play one of those instead of that crazy gospel track. 😂 All Travis knew was I’m a professional session musician with a page on Fiverr. Gospel is just one thing I happen to know well but I study and play just about any genre you can think of at a high level. Except bluegrass 😳
@@BrandonMeeksMusic Hello, your response has made me smile. Your are a truly remarkable musician. And your playing is assuredly a kick-in-the-butt to all instrumentalists watching this performance. (I must acknowledge the fantastic skills of the other players selected for this presentation). For some reason, it reminded me of the parable in the Bible, and I will paraphrase : «What have you done with the talent I have entrusted you with ?». Well, you certainly did not waste time developing your gift. I am a pianist and I thank you for the inspiration !
Welcome to playing gospel music, you’re never handed music, charts or tabs just the recording.
I found the guy's constant harping on about how gospel is super difficult to play, requires loads of feel, etc. etc. kinda obnoxious considering he is himself a gospel musician.
I'm not saying it's not _true_ but it's also true that jazz, prog rock/metal, soul, funk etc. can also have complicated basslines and bassists within those genres can also have a distinct "feel".
In that light, his criticisms come across worse. No advice on how to get the "right" bass tone. No advice on how to break down and learn complicated sections by ear. Just "this isn't good enough". After all that talking about how great he is... eww.
I picked up a kind of insecurity here that manifested as a veiled arrogance. Not saying he's a bad guy, just there was a slightly sour vibe about the whole thing.
I just started learning gospel guitar and I tell you what.. It’s some incredible players out there. I’ve only been playing a year and 3 months and this is the toughest genre for me. But.. I love it!
Keep at it. It’ll only make every other genre easier to learn if and when you enter the secular world.
@@Jayyy_Wav Oh yes I’ve been creating R&B music for years, but I just picked up guitar. Once I started playing, I realized how skilled gospel players are.
This is soooooo good! There was something about Martin that was super intriguing - maybe it was the stone cold look as he navigated the fretboard. I dig Brandon though--super professional Fiverr profile, killer feel, effortless butter on his playing! Well worth the watch! 🙌🔥🎸
Feel like Martin would fit better in a band context, assuming it's the right kind of band (I reckon his primary wheelhouse is prog metal based on the 5-string, tapping and general vibe) while Brandon is most likely a pro session musician.
Martin provides more "colour" to a song, Brandon effortlessly fits within _any_ song.
2:15 the sound differece Between the synth Bass and the real Bass played by yourself just blows me away!😳 Sounds so much better! Awesome😃
My fingers and brain hurt just listening and looking at these guys, especially the last two. All three were good, but the last two were fantastic.
Guess it's time to venture to gospel from the bass side of things.
1:55 no offense, but to me this sounds like cheap infomercial, midi file played by win media player like, synth pattern like ..sound ...is this really what gospel feeling sound like??
when he cuts in with the real bass it sounds a lot more soulful
Your take was fire also...
The 2nd guy with the tap 😂😂😂
The 3rd guy 😂😂😂 Ogbolo plenty for e hand... Nigerians will understand better... Ogbolo😅
Lol! The way the guy dey draw that thing>>>>>>>
I love the way the last guy's fingers hardly moved!
It’s nice to see young people with so much talent and a love of music. I’m encouraged that the world won’t collapse.
That black guy at the end just jumps out of the screen. Sits so nice in the track, bang on the money time wise, sweet feel, all the chops, the mark of a truly brilliant bassist. Get your wallet out. But the second guy was no slouch.
Martin nailed it, with the straight face, didn’t break a sweat.🔥
That was just terrific to see and hear! Thanks Travis ! Great stuff ❤
Hands up for Martin!!
you made my day and excite dbecause i felt the genuiness of all you said. yes feel and execution is what differentiates a real gospel bazz player...you are good sir
Martin rocks, light touch, relaxed.
Thanks, now I’m practicing more fills in mycraf.
The second guy is a monster 🔥
They all did a very good job. Martins tapping at the end was very cool. The last guy reeks of gospel all the way. Great job guys!!! Be careful Travis, this last guy may take your job! LOL
As a drummer of various genres. I can say that gospel music is the most challenging music I have played. And that is in the face of jazz fusion, jazz funk, and classic rock and soul. The changes and breaks alone will force you to be at your very best!!
The 2nd guy tapping the outro made me jump out of my seat with an OHHHH! Good tone as well.
I made my comment (although warranted) prior to watcghing the third bassist Brandon. He is hands down "that dude"
I like this kind of video! Cool seeing how different players approach it. I saw a gospel bassist on Scott's Bass Lessons KILL hearing Iron Maiden for the first time. Made me realize how amazing gospel bassists are hearing music. Justin Raines was amazing!
I bought the track, and I'm having a lot of fun with it, but those runs are tough!! Awesome content!
This is nice, Travis. Learnt a lot. Keep more coming.
That was fun and super cool. Love your format and that attack.
Subscribed. Good stuff my friend
As an owner of a Sire V8, I can also attest to the tone of the Sire bass. It’s absolute fire whether I’m out on a gig or recording. It’s the one I reach for when I need to nail the tone of a song. Glad to see it’s being represented by a pro!
That last brother was smooth with it!! Bravo 👏🏾
The last guy... Is tooooooooooo gooooood and annointed
...the last, hmm has played gospel..no doubts
Yeah I was basically born on a church pew. Lol
@@BrandonMeeksMusici have that same bass. What is your recommendation to get that tone?
But you know what... I understand what you mean watching Martin Tap! I just learned and I'm humbled! He nailed it for sure! 13:43
The last guy was playing like I will that in my sleep brother!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
2nd is flawless ! amazing :] and 3rd also super groovy & clean!!!
Amazing last performer....wow
the last guy wiped the floor with all of em, video author included, a few shelves above all. The track is jazz fusion imo.
This can EASILY be a “Bassist Challenge.” I’d like to see/hear people like Justin Raines, Bubby Lewis, Mononeon, and, of course The Gooch!
You just named several of my bassist idols, particularly Andrew Gouche and Justin Raines ..... and don't forget about Sharay Reed!!!
One of your best, Travis. Also, your contribution didn’t go unnoticed 🔥🔥🔥
Hands down last bass player nailed it with feel and technical aspects for tasteful tight and tone killer!!! Effortless!
I totally agree that gospel is about that feel bro! The last guy… no doubt for sure, has played gospel!
Brandon NEVER disappoints!!!
You's a BAD BRUTHA!!! 🔥🎸
And YES... he DEFINITELY plays Gospel bass...!!! Represent, my guy!
Martin very tight...very easy for him! And on video too!
Third guy amazing, he has the groove, or the feel 😍🎸❤
🤣👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 that face told you: don’t you play with me!
That feel of @brandon 🔥🔥🔥
3rd guy , absolutely amazing, gospel flows in his veins.
Was looking forward to your take😥
Nonetheless, this was a really interesting and fun video. Love it!!!
Thank you for your technical side of my learning bass. This video was very entertaining and educational. Gospel is that jam.
Sounds like first guy dialled in his tone for slap bass
I liked the 2nd one the best.
third guy never even broke a sweat...damn!
Gospel music is a product of the Black church. There's a reason why the last guy "feels" better. Because what's in him is where Gospel music comes from. Truth is truth. He understood what tone was needed because he felt what tone was needed. He added the little extras (bends and vibrato) because he "felt" that's where they belonged. We are not all the same inside, because God didn't make us all the same inside... and Gospel music is proof of that. It's not about theory. We break SO many theoretical rules and THAT'S why our music sounds different from ANY other kind of music. We play from our hearts, and what's in our hearts (in the Black church) is different. The theory is understood, but we don't let it limit us. This comes from inside us. It can be mimicked, but not duplicated (as proven in this video). And it is not a style. There are lots of styles covered in Gospel music (as you mentioned). That's why Gospel musicians are so versatile. Thanks for the shoutout and respect to the genre in this vid, Travis.
Yes...
Feeling is everything...
I feel emotional, charged up, so
I will put more money in the collection baskets..😂😂😂
That was fun. These guys ( even the first one) are great. Of course #3 is #1 no question
This was interesting. I don't think I could do it so well done. But brilliant idea
before watching this video, I thought Gospel was just some religious dudes singing basic major chord progressions. Cool to hear that there is more to it
That third guy has the greasiest vibrato ever....thats what made the difference. . I cheat with hammer ons but his LH is deadly.
Brilliant idea that one Travis and hats off to those guy’s, well done.
I, along with lots will be attempting to learn it. A little challenge 👍🏻
God Bless
#3 - has a Sire bass. Looks like a P8 5 String? I have an M7 (and had a V7 before). Excellent bass and a great price.
Travis - you should demo one sometime!
Can't talk about them highly enough. Sick basses! And I think he's playing a P7
Hi, Travis!!! I really enjoyed listening to AND LEARNING your Track. it's interesting that you got so many different comment about how Gospel Theory is so difficult to understand. I got MY start in the Gospel world 50 Years ago... And, I've learned a LOT from it as well as in other genres of Music. Now as a Touring Pro, I STILL try to learn as many things as possible! I JUST got in from a Gig and started working on my Music for Tomorrow's Service... And, I HAD to run over YOUR Tracks again... IOt's such FUN!!! I even de-ciphered the Final Scale and learned it BACKWARDS just for fun!!! I DID subscribe to your You Tube page. Looking forward to seeing more from you, my New Friend!!! Stay Blessed!!! BTW, your Keyboardist/Partner is AWESOME!!! I HATE HIM!!!😆😆😆😆
13:00 went crazy lol…I’m still watching tho lol 😂
Love the way you talk about your craft.
Giving exposure to others ❤ Great vid!
Love this idea! Great job
This is awesome. Beautiful tunes, great video!
No one gave you the reaction like the guy tapping. that puts him over the 3rd guy for me
Please make more of these Vids. this was amazing....
Charles B. can play this with ease...❤ love your amazing bassist playing..
So, I wanna play this, but I ain't sending it to you Travis!! You ain't beating me up!! Ha ha!! Slick vid.
I feel like american / black gospel should be their own genre
Like international famous gospel "band" like hillsong, planetshakers, etc is not like these
I feel like these should become their own genre, idk whats the name but most of the world didnt play like this on their gospel(churches) songs
Groups like Hillsong, Passion, Elevation are CCM which is its own thing. Planetshakers have some more rock and edm influences but definitely some CCM in there too. Gospel is very different and very much a genre of itself.
Great video!!!! Would definitely enjoy more of these. Youre a gifted musician. Love in Christ brother....
i have the same Bass as the last one have "marcus miller p8" the tonal range and sound you can get from it are insane, ( i have the 4 string version thou)
Yikes!
This guy! Ummm yo! Wait up!
The last guy is the difference between using accents in a foreign language and a foreigner speaking it for the first time. You can hear the embellishments and the seasoning he added to the part!
You get what you pay for!
AMAZING!