Why the E-vehicles market is central to Germany-China rivalry | DW Business Special
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- Competition between Western carmakers and their Chinese rivals is on full display at the German auto trade fair IAA in Munich. Chinese auto firms are accelerating in this global race. Technology and innovation consultant Peter Fintl from Capgemini breaks down this intense rivalry.
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No matter how many similarities there are between Japan and China, one difference stands up like a sore thumb: Japan wilted under the US hegemony.
oh really, care to explain?
Yeah. China is a big inspiration to the developing world because unlike Japan they refuse to become a puppet or succumb to pressure from western countries.
@@neothaka Seriously. You need an explanation?
Sorry. I, nor anyone, can wake up someone who pretends to sleep.
Are you sure? Japan is a free Country. And it’s industry was for a longtime very successful on the US market. I do not see any hegemony…
@@markuscasper9498 "Free" is such a cliche thrown around whenever any country refuse to become a vassal of the west or accept their cultural imperialism. The funny thing is that those that think they live a "free" country are the ones that complain everytime, have very low happiness index than Chinese people which are said to be supposedly "oppressed" 🤣
Seems China really shocked german during IAA. Never seen dw has to have 3 reports day by day talking about chinese EVs....
Let me tell the truth. Soon German electric cars will not even have a chance to compete with China. Batteries, energy, and patents are sad.
German car is specialist in combustion engine... Let China do their EV .
but I bought a BMW anyway, why? For nostalgia😂
@@balckston Combustion vehicle will soon be history. EV, is cheaper and environmental friendlier.
@@huggybear441
No it won't be so soon... Can last for another 50 years. Current EV 🔋 need a big lap in technology revolution.
He makes it seem like Chinese manufacturers are catching up in the first part, while it are in fact the German manufacturers that are behind
I checked . true
German executives held the entire industry and Germany itself back for over a decade.
Its the arrogance of europeans..they think they at creators of everything,but go round and steal everything
@@luyaowang7811
Of Jun 2
Too right. They live in a cave. They don’t even know what’s been happening in China.😂 There’s just no competition, not Tesla not the German makers. That’s why VW EV moved and setup their design team to China.
Here in Brazil, Volswagen is only talking about electric cars for the next two decades without any practical action, while Chinese brands such as BYD and GWM are starting to take over the market.
Let me tell the truth. Soon German electric cars will not even have a chance to compete with China. Batteries, energy, and patents are sad.
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@@indiasuperclean6969got the point super irony 🤣
there 2 big problems germany does not have enough engineers to parallel the ev production withe the classic combustion second it`s behind battery tech compared with china or usa but the part with the design is an astute absurdity germany is probably number 2 or 3 in the world in the field of power electronics
@@raygao1409 He is not Indian, he is a troll from China or Pakistan or some country that has beef with India.
Who would think that Germany would be worry about competition from Chinese automakers in Europe! Completely unthinkable 10 years ago.
How is this.unthinkable ？ It's destined
@@chengyanslc You honestly thought 10 years ago that German Auto makers would be worry about Chinese competition in Europe?
@@bobcharles7716German carmakers didn't even take Tesla seriously 10 years ago, let alone Chinese car makers.
@@xet869that is very very true. They thought Telsa was a joke. I was one of the people who thought that too.
I must confess
Not only German, but also we Chinese wouldn’t expect that. It’s like just one night that everyone here in China started to buy Chinese car. You know Chinese ppl used to dislike Chinese cars and worship German cars. It’s like carved deep into the bone thing. But just in a short span of time everything has changed. Unbelievable
Although the Germans may not be happy---the Chinese cars participating in this exhibition are all models that have been on sale in the Chinese market for a year or more.The Chinese do not think it is necessary to bring more advanced and technologically advanced models to the exhibition.
In fact,the intensity of competition in China's domestic auto market far exceeds that in Europe.The challenges that Chinese automakers encounter in the European market are basically from racial and political issues,and almost none from technology.
In China, last year's EV model is already ancient history. That's how fast the industry is growing and changing in China, it's mind boggling.
DW you can use one common title for all coverage about China: Germany and the EU should be worried about anything China does and doesn't do, period.
当他们竞争不过时，他们对中国就会产生仇恨。这其实是可以理解的，因为中国的产业升级确实会对所有发达国家的产业造成威胁。发达国家粉碎机的称号不是浪得虚名。
That's about it.
Exactly, and this bald yapper is absolutely clueless about the real and relevant important issues… and a silly chynese cheerleader…
😂
Doublethink
More and more affordable cars in the market, which is a good news for all consumers.
First they complained about how chinese companies worked with volkswagen for their technology. Now years later they complain about how volkswagen works with chinese company for their technology. Bunch of clowns
Rise munchers stole alot of manufacturing tech from the west. Maybe it's time to treat the pingpong IPO the same way.
But world's largest battery maker is in China..... Tesla also use China-made battery .....how ?
By having a gigafactory in China
Simple , use solar panels for car, revolution
@@mengreat6982just no
Since Dec 2022, CATL has already started battery production in Germany. It is building another factory in Hungary.
Volkswagen owns 25% of Gotion High Tech, a Chinese EV battery manufacturer. GHT has announced it has acquired a 25% stake in a Slovak EV battery start-up. This start-up will manufacture EV battery for the European market.
@@mengreat6982the top 10 solar panels manufacturers are all from China😂
Not only in EV, China is also successful in the tunnel boring machines which they take up 70% of the world market. Germany used to dominate in this market, but the Chinese entry has lowered the price tag which the west can hardly complete. In the fields of construction machinery China repeats the success story, Liebherr lacks behind China's XCMG and Putzmeister was absorbed by Sany
XCMG is from my hometown
also cranes for ship building and containers....
I guess probably cus China is now building roads, tunnels etc. on an faster lvl than Europe did especially after WW2. Germany needed all thous brands like MAN and Putzmeister to rebuild its country, first after WW2 then after 1990 when Eastern Germany joined. I mean now in Europe is quite common to see Korean made heavy trucks and construction cars.
German TBM companies leaked of technical services if a machine broke down only German company technicians would allow to inspect and fix. There was an incident happened in China 2007 a TBM broke down and under the contract Chinese engineers were forbidden to look and touch the machine which the project had delayed a few weeks and the service charges were huge too ! Two boys' fights from Germany + $ 1000 usd /day each + 5 star hotel and meals and only work 9 to 5 + no weekends. So,the Chinese government was pissed.....now you know the rest of the story. New Chinese TBM have 7/24 5g online service to its Head Quarter Engineering Dept monitoring each operating machine data.
heard story about this, the germans sold tunnel boring with exorbitant price to the Chinese, then when it need services, the germans against charge exorbitant price, and when not long after the services, the tunnel boring broke down again, the germans didn't want to take responsibility, so the Chinese simply made its own tunnel boring
Why can’t DW see EV as an opportunity of collaboration rather than life and death rivalry?
because DW stand with US not Germany
德国大众已经取得中国小鹏汽车的一部分股份，并合资建厂
Volkswagen ID3 sells for 16,000 euros in China and 37,000 euros in Europe
Is it a problem with the Chinese government?
Is it a Volkswagen problem?
Is it a problem with the German government or the EU?
Be happy to see competition so that users have a variety of choices and are not bothered by high prices. But everyone also knows that if its products are not possible to compete with competitors, given a national security excuse, product share can be increased.😊
It wouldn't be long before cars are classified under national security items in North America and Europe...😂
@@Libochseeing how insecure America is I wouldn't be so sure 😂😂
Can’t wait to see how no country on the planet will be able to handle the energy requirements of electric vehicles in the next few years, while their electric grids burn to the ground in the process… 😂
@@MikeOxlong- 75% of all cars in Norway are EVs. I am not sure about China, but read news report that 35% of their new are are EVs. Looks like they are doing fine, so far...
Compete all you want. If the CCP is on your side, you'll win.
With gone of cheap energy from Russia to Europe, i don't see how Europe especially Germany could compete with China, when China can now access as much as possible cheap Russian gas and oil.
Europe did this to them selves folks.. 😔
可以说德国的经济严重依赖俄罗斯的廉价能源和中国的市场，这就是经济原理无关政治。但是德国人面对北溪被轰炸，却能保持沉默，简直不可思议。德国已经从独立骄傲的国家变成了美国的殖民地。
I bought VW ID4 last year but felt a bit regretful because NIO SUV is more expensive than ID4, otherwise we would rater to take NIO instead of ID4. Pls don't feel hurt. My last car is Honda Vezel. And maybe my next car will be a Chinese brand which I'm pretty sure. Changes are quite huge and faster here in China than you can image. Hold it tight, ladies and gentlemen.
What matters is what works over many years - look at Chinese military weapons that do not work - their EV will not work after the warranty period!!! Wake up.
@@atlaspath5803哈哈哈哈😂
还在睡觉💤？
@@atlaspath5803That's why my brother is burning modern German tanks with his brigade. For each fascist tank, the state pays a bonus to the soldiers. I could show you hundreds of photos and videos, but CZcams really doesn’t like footage of burning Ukrainians in fascist tanks, the videos are deleted very quickly by CZcams moderators, and to be precise in the wording, by the moderators of Uncle Sam, your master. You’re not even an independent country, but a satellite of the will of the United States 😊😊
China have talents in ALL sectors not just in space exploration and moon landing ( like India which is more focussed in prestige)
India is also having all sector but they went to USA and Europe for their opportunity. USA and Europe only doing that tech things becoz of Indian. China is now developed and having opportunities in their country itself. India is developing and it takes around 10 to 15 years to be like China.
@@irose4066 Yes and climbing to the head. They want to influence them from within, that's why!
@@irose4066india will never be like china 15-20 years. Our politics still in the barriers of religion, hate etc. Only cronies are developing here. Govt data gives us the idea, still 800 million people are still dependent on government's free rationing scheme. Internet was doing better in some last years but it doesn't mean that prosperity comes with it.
India will become the next China. And when it does, the West will use the same tools to bludgeon it.
What is missing from this whole debate is that none of the car manufacturers were able to make a car with profits except BYD and Tesla.
li auto google it :)
And they do ?
if you google you would know :)@@rodmarker2071
@@rodmarker2071, in brief, yes. BYD has started to barely make profits. Tesla is selling those cars for one of the highest margins in the entire car industry. It has to do with manufacturing numbers and techniques.
Everyone else is currently making a loss.
@@ThalanorThornhale BYD has whole airport landing strip size carparks of cars produced but not sold. And that makes a profit ??? The batteries explode .
I would even travel as passenger in a chinese car.
without cheap energy, German industries are doomed
From what I hear on the other channel the Swiss Bank has made a detailed analysis of BYD's Dolphin model by taking apart piece by piece and comes up with the conclusion to build the same model car in exact specification, it costs 35 % extra so what does that tell you as they need to make an investment decision for their clients.
LOL... the "reporter" was trying so hard to ask leading questions and control the narrative, but Peter didn't take the bait. Bravo Peter for the level-headed responses!
This news report is just dripping with the anxiety of lost dominance that basically summarizes the Western view of China. We have been dominant technologically for the past several hundred years. Now that is changing and this is unacceptable!"
Now the tables will be turning in other respects also. As German/European exports die out, I expect Europe will start demanding localized production in Europe from the Chinese manufacturers or else they will face tariffs. Just like China has been doing for many years and still does. Maybe they should even demand partnerships with European companies and forced transfer of technology. Pay back time
@@curioussand1339 yeah, China set the precedent of this. It is an option for China to sell in Europe
Most of the focus if on manufacturers. Missing here is the efficiency or initiatives by policymaker and government of the country to enhance or support the ecosystem needed for EV application. It is not necessarily stopping ICE and call everyone jump into EV. They need time but China did it faster and started way earlier.
Fintl handled some tough questions with great finesse. Germany used to be a leader intechnology now VW is partnering with XPENG where XPENG supplies the technology. The reply was we have realize that China is no longer a copy cat, just as Japan stopped being a copy cat in terms of technology. We should welcome a win-win collaboration. The americans feel very uncomfortable, when/if they are not the conquerers and the winners while those they conquered are destroyed. The win-lose option is the only one they know exists. Win-win is foreign to the rulers of the global empire. Rome wins Gaul loses, Rome wins Carthage loses. Fintl is the opposite of Annalena Baerbock and Haback.
Why does this have to be Germany against the US? You act as if we have favourable trade terms with the EU.
Its compulsory for non-chinese car companies to enter into a partnership with a chinese car company in order to do business in china.
@@matthewbaynham6286 这是过时的信息，参考tesla
@@matthewbaynham6286 Tesla didn't.......bang!!
Well, China stole tech from Tesla
Thanks for providing a fair discussion regarding the progress of EV vehicles globally. I like how the emphasis isn't necessarily the battle but more of a cooperation that can help more people in the world adopt more environmentally friendly vehicles. Thanks for the report!
If you're serious, buy a plane ticket to China, with over 50% tram coverage in first-tier cities, and a lot of brands to choose from between $30,000 and $50,000 that sell very well. Tesla and BYD are starting to turn a profit after a long period of losses. Quality is another topic, go look at sales of electric buses and electric cabs. Germany has the best fuel cars, but the world change accelerated after Germany lost its pipeline. Germany has lost cheap energy, and to give up the partnership is to give up decades of lucrative markets. German and Chinese car companies have different strengths and it is still not too late to cooperate.
Just your typical anti-China story from DW. Carry on.
Competition is good. Foreign competition forces the local ones to innovate, reduce costs in order to be competitive or be out of business. All these benefit the consumers who can do with better quality and more affordable reasonably -priced products. I really don't care much about protecting the domestic market (that's for inefficient companies and govt to worry) if such competition means I get to enjoy lower prices and more options! Also EV cars and even driverless transportation like buses have been in China for quite some years. I was in China some years ago and was amazed by how fast they have leapfrogged in certain areas. It's not that China is catching up in EV, just that German is getting complacent and lagging behind without the foreign competition from overseas ... until now.
>> I really don't care much about protecting the domestic market > I get to enjoy lower prices and more options!
German expertise is in internal combustion and associated drive train. They have been left far behind the EV race.
Even worse Germany lacks the minerals and the energy to make competitively priced EVs. It has no gas or oil, it has no lithium, copper or nickel.
What a weird title. When German's car flooded Chinese market, they didn't put up such title.
Thanks for reporting
This is no surprise to me, German auto makers drag their feet as long as possible to halt & delay this process & now they have to pay the price
Tesla started building its Shanghai factory in Jan 2019 and started the assembly lines in Dec. 2019. One million EV's
were built between Dec. 2019 to Aug. 2022 . And another one million were built From Sept. 2022 up to early Sept. 2023 .
Most of the German Car companies are working together with their China partners at present in this race .
BASF Germany energy cost is at least 4-5 times higher than BASF China ! Europe has to find a way to De-risk
from the US, in order to stay competitive .
>> BASF Germany energy cost is at least 4-5 times higher than BASF China ! Europe has to find a way to De-risk
- Lets get all the countries of Europe together to create a manufacturing powerhouse called the EU. The richer countries can provide Tech and Cash while the poorer countries provide Manpower.
- Brilliant idea
- And then we will outsource everything to China
- Wait... WHAT?!
🤣🤣🤣
That’s the plan all right.
BECAUSE YOU ARE LAZY AND WASTE OF OXYGEN
China has Market/low price labour force /better policy😂 bro
Bro is this possible without Russian energy?
Will it be on pay per view
China and Germany are not boxing in the same category. China is in the heavyweight, Germany is in the featherweight.
So germany didn't see tesla as rivals who has much bigger markets in germany compared to chinese ev's? 😂
The Tesla is from the U.S. The German government is controlled by the US partly. The CIA intercepts all high rank of German politicians and know their secretes.
It was almost ten years ago, I was lucky to have a chance to join an event hosted by the Audi executives in Barcelona. I test drove their self driving prototype electric A7and it was amazing. They also gave us a lecture about their visions of the EVs, very impressive. But as we all know, none of those happened. 😂The times have approved that German corps are not as innovative as they advertised.
Electric car should not be expensive, because of simplicity of it ! Battery + Electric motor + computer - thats it
where is fair competition,where is open market
7:10 funny thing in that graph is, both the Chinese and German EV exports to a large extents are the locally manufactured Teslas...
It’s fair and normal that Germany fall behind Americans
Yes its in case of Germany, but not in case of China.
Not for China.
In China, very few people buy German electric vehicles. This is a fact, because the entire electric vehicle industry in the West is far behind China. China's electric vehicle technology is currently the world's number one, and it is also the world's largest single market. Germany, in addition to fuel vehicles There is no advantage in China. With the development of science and technology, it will be a matter of time before fuel vehicles are eliminated.
The CCP makes it hard for foreign brands to sell to the Chinese market. That's why. Chinese EVs are not known for their quality, quite the opposite.
@@aceyageyou are totally brainwashed by the media you consumed，be awakened！
@@aceyageChina is the single largest most profitable market for most legacy automakers.
@@aceyage wrong. the software tech in chinese EV is far more advance than gemany's. If you ever compare them, you'll know
@@aceyage All electric vehicles in China are currently in the stage of competition for high-end electric vehicles, while Germany has just started. Except for fuel vehicles, German brands are not favored. What the West is best at is describing good things as bad, so there are many fools in the West. Intellectual ability is too low.
I am sorry my German brothers and sisters but looks like game is over for German cars though I love having one.
Why so pessimistic? Isn’t this what motivates German car companies? If we collectively surrendered when Tesla landed in China, there would be no BYD.
ICE cars going obsolete which many countries are phasing out. New trends are EV cars. Buyers prefer affordable, quality EV over branded ones.
You can really hear how loaded everything the host says is
10:08 The despair of the lady stating that "young people deciding to buy a new car" in urge to save the industry 🙄
they deserved outcome similar to speed train story. Most of Euro countries is sunset without new idea compare old day Nokia, Alcatel, Airbus, ERC, Seimen etc.
Let us wait to see in next couple months if "National Security" issue is rising in germany parliament. If any new restriction applied on China-EV in EU-Market, as reliatation, would the VW sale in China be restricted ? So basically, be careful with VW-Stock for long term investment.
But where are the machines that makes those cars are made, and the control circuits?
China used to buy German TBMs. . . too expensive. . The Germans don't cut prices at all. .
Eventually we plan to build our own. . The Germans said when they found out. "I give you the blueprint. You can't make it either." .
result. . We made it.
The same is true in the automotive field.
The German auto industry can do all the same things as the Chinese auto industry, nothing is stopping them, but unfortunately the German auto industry is still mostly focused on squeezing the ICE a bit longer even though the writing is on the wall to change directions. But don’t underestimate the German auto industry!
Maybe too late. What about batteries & related raw resources such as lithium? Both are already dominated by China. Software is also German's weakness.
German cars are overated now, too expensive, less 10 years they are done
Hardly doubt people will cross-shop a German brand and a Chinese brand, more likely German cars on a Chinese platform. Remember in the 90's reading "Only Turks buy Japanese car in Germany" replace Japanese for Chinese and will have a more accurate picture.
Lol typical Germans being typically racist. You guys never change.
Just go test drive the MG4 XPower, you will see the true picture. You get a super car for the price of peanuts, who could resist that?
2025 is still early, electric cars are just starting to show their growing pains
The Chinese are way ahead in EV.
And they've got the RnD and manufacturing base.
Chinese party has cheap energy supply from Russia and low wages that fact brings very competitive prices to the final costumer so that competition is a big motivation to bring a new friendly energy over traditional way to manufacture is a big challenge but europe could overcome and rescue their star product if they not only researh and give the research results to manufacture in china because that is vicious circle and chinese industry will keep strong
Because of technological advancement.
China is crushing it in terms of quality and price. The Era of expensive and over-priced german engineering will die out if they don't compete on price.
In ASEAN, Chinese EVs are taking over the car manufacturing. Countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, are making Chinese cars locally this year. And Thailand is rumoured to be talking with Geely, BYD, etc., too.
ps. Hungary is building the largest battery plant in Europe soon, with CATL.
LG already has the largest battery plant in the EU in Poland. Yes, it's larger than CATL's.
Great.
20 years of German cooperation with Russia and China got us where we are now - more of the same is definitely what you do not want to hear for the future.
You forgot to mention NIO.
Is that edible?
Chinese will not only replace the German brands in Russia 🇷🇺 but very soon also in Germany 🇩🇪 and Germany can’t stop it 😢
Co-op or loose the market song of the day
Question - where is all the lithium gonna come from for all these cars for the next 50 or so years?
We will transition away from lithium batteries. Also, there's actually more than enough lithium available. It just varies in how easily accessible it is.
@@harmless6813 if there was more than enough class 1 A lithium available Tesla would not be requesting anyone that has it to contact them and they will setup a contract to buy it
@@harmless6813to cobalt or magnemese or something * I can't recall ???
What's long term solution??
@@mkodyChallengesYOu If I knew I'd be rich. There are several new technologies that are being worked on. We will see which one will win.
Just search for "new battery technology" for some candidates.
The South American Lithium Triangle is the popular source at the moment. The water exploitation during the long refining process is dramatic.
That’s game change now.
China has saved many countries from backwardness especially Africa.Ten years ago we used local buses and in our villages only government employees owned motorcycles due to high cost bt after entry of Chinese brands almost every house has a motorcycle that saves time in our daily activities ,nowdays we have luxary buses in villages .Kudos to china
love you bro from India... Global South Unite ❤
German products are favored in China among the rich, Chinese products are popular in the west among the grassroots.
Where is the PHEV in Germany?? It is great competitors to EV !!
There are only 22 parts in a EV car. And a EV car is nothing but a battery with four wheel and a computer. So it is not that hard to get into the business, as long as you can secure the Chinese batteries which is the REAL DEAL. And Chinese car batteries are superiors. Even Tesla is using Chinese car batteries.
If you have a chance to see the Chinese made EV cars, their quality and price ratio is OFF THE ROOF. Chinese EV car makers are so competitive among themselves that they practically load all luxury features they could think of into the EV cars.
What matters is what works over many years - look at Chinese military weapons that do not work - their EV will not work after the warranty period!!! Wake up.
wake up youself! you are talking something only coming from ur baised mind without any solid proof.
The EV is environmentally friendly and maybe the good solution for reduce of emission, so it will be able to reduce of depending of energy resources, as we know that the war between Russia and Ukraine have been the price of energy rise up to scarcity. Another side that the source of energy have been belonging of Middle East countries. But the most questions is how the manufactures will be able to supply the raw material of EV, it will be depending of another
Germany don't like competition? It's ok when they were in the lead. But nothing stays the same.
Jolly good! We have more advanced technologies and cost effective EVs in the market. 👍
Chinese car maker have prospered from VW sharing its expertise. I hope VW will prosper in turn with XP sharing
given the climatechange with the weather catastrophes i would like to have a car that is fireproof and can swim.
If you can afford to, why not. There are apocalyptic geared vehicles😅. Not everyone will afford to survive.
Buy a yacht..... but be careful not to park in hurricane/cyclone/monsoon prone areas.... hmmmm there was a barely good movie about this. Waterworld (not Kevin's best effort).
防火还做不到，但BYD真的有可以游泳的车
Les voitures allemandes, certes très bien sous beaucoup d’aspects, sont bien trop chères. Et encore l’euro sous côté par rapport à sa vraie parité , autrement ces voitures seraient hors de prix
And then you find out chima has fields of abandoned elecyric vehicles too boost sales on paper
@JackSmith-uy9cf Google it and find all the sources you need.
EV's and cars in general are wayyyy overpriced. Bring on the competition to bring the prices down!
The Three Body has told the truth, weakness is not an obstacle to survival, while arrogance is.
German car makers only concentrated in high end market.
For commoners like me, there is no chance to even smell german cars in my lifetime.
I am driving japanese cars since birth and now its inevitable that my next upgrade will be chinese made ICE car or EV
you haven't lost much
A lot can be said, but I'll leave it at: There is exactly 0% (zero) room for surprise in these developments. In fact I'm inclined to question what's wrong with people's heads who are surprised.
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the chinese car industry is making a big splash.
3:25 electric vehicle: larger battery and no conversions.
3:55 everything works smooth, digital, and seamless.
also the perceived quality of the interiors - use of leather, soft surfaces, lavish outlook
6:55 who is winning the export race
7:40 this is a typical pattern of the chinese industry
8:10 combustion engine vehicles
Good. more competition. It’s about time the EU vehicle manufacturers get some real competition. Saying this a while: for too long they sell very expensive vehicles, but they are basically shells without exorbitant options. Any car costing 50k or more should have ventilated seats and HUD as standard.
I’m currently in Shanghai and I was literally taken by surprise in the locally manufactured EVs. Eg Voyah, NIO, Avatar, byd etc.
Commercial jet engines is the last castle from the West 😮
China had test the jet engines
Europeen car market, specialy for ev, is really open to import, as the ev credit market is based on sale product, not on production, so there is governement money stimulus to import ev from china
I hope that German manufacturers wake up an stop making UFOs and start making practical, nice interior EVs. And stop trying to copy Tesla.
VW Fans don’t want a Tesla with a VW Logo, they want a 100% electric polo, golf, passat.
Golf has already started selling electric versions in the Chinese market, and there is no longer a fuel version available.
It's all talk, talk, talk in German industry - oh, and fear from a competitor making far better products. It is quite clear that all the German car manufacturers have buried their collective reputationallly based heads in the sand. It is high time to sweep out all the failed "leaders" of the German car industry and take a cold hard look at the mess before any more damage is done.
VW, MB, Audi, BMW, Porsche… are very popular Chinese market for years, there is no direct competitor from China. The number of Chinese export is nothing comparing to Japanese and Korean brands, also I just watched another DW video announcing EVs era is ending. EU wants affordable EV and complain Chinese EV price is too low.
BMW cut the price of i3 hugely and now is almost 100k yuan cheaper here than 3 series
The way he is defending german investment in china, although it is good for all the parties but the german companies can explore opportunities in other countries like India
The German auto industry can do all the same things as the Chinese auto industry, nothing is stopping them, but unfortunately the German auto industry is still mostly focused on squeezing the ICE a bit longer even though the writing is on the wall.
Nokia and Kodak could have done that too.
Lol Germany dont even have natural resources and now even dont have russian cheap gas, theyre doomed, Finished! 😂😅😂😅😂😅
It should b china+eu against tesla
Why are the Chinese focused on the Euro car market? A) It's a large and affluent market. B) Asian expansion is already underway C) Big US tariffs on Chinese products, and few are willing to lose as much money as Geely is to access the US market. This will result in BYD and others building factories in Mexico. It will take time though.
German manufacturers (3 top positions ) are battling TESLA for the 1st spot..... what kind of reporting is this??
German cars over chinese cars every day in the week...
Sure at the Top End. But China is steeling the mass market like Ford did once
A friend of mine will only ever buy German cars, so she bought a Smart car and she loved it, she didn't talk to me much after I pointed out that it was made in France and repeatedly asked her how her French car was doing every time I saw her.
Sure, you just pay much more. LOL.
@@matthewbaynham6286Designed and engineered in Germany. Where it is made is irrelevant.
No German Carmakers are well ready for EV markets. They will lose their positions in the car industry.
German car makers are practical business people. It's not like they love Chinese car companies or the Chinese tech but to propel their own business to grow and survive the current downturn. Keep your friends close your enemy closer. Who knows, maybe someday it's your enemy that will save you for going under.
13:10 this goes to show that china had already shifted into a tech industry instead if manufacturinng
Face reality, China has caught everyone asleep with respect to EVs , they are def ahead and have the battery tech and supplies. Give them a few years and they will even improve their products even more. It’s going to be a losing battle - they have govt support , plenty of land , the talent ( engineers etc ) , the supply chains , the battery tech , and the money.
Oh dear
The world is a playground,each nation compete for number 1