This Batman Episode Was Fanfiction!
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- Batman Brave And The Bold "Knights Of Tomorrow" tackles a version of the future for the Dark Knight in the form of fanfiction? Bruce Wayne having married Catwoman tries to prepare his son Damian Wayne for a future as Batman. It's an episode with many homages, and some deep cut references. We explore it all here on Casually Comics!
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Alfred writing a fanfic about his surrogate son getting married and starting a family is one of the most adorable and funny things I’ve ever heard
One of the only funnier things is that it's also about him and his wife dying horribly and their son going down the same road as Bruce.
This was one of my favourite episodes. This is how batman should be handled.
Alfred is a fanfic writer confirmed.
He needs to have hobbies since he cannot die from old age.
The best he is
This episode was very loosely based on silver age Batman comics in which Alfred actually did write some stories like this, if my memory serves me correctly.
The fact Alfred wrote this possible future is both funny and disturbing at the same time.
It's a bit psychotic that Alfred's fanfiction includes the death of his master/ward/pseudo adopted son and his wife, leaving their son an orphan just like his father was.
"I have an idea for a Father-Son legacy story... but hmm... how do I make a reluctant son take up his father's legacy as Batman? I know! I'll just copy Bruce's origin! It's so simple, it's genius!"
I really don't think it's that messed up. Could just be the easy solution to writer's block.
Bro plays no favorites, that's better than most fanfic writers
@@danielendlessand many comic writers
“It’s called Kill Your Darlings, my dear, one mustn’t play favorites in the grand art of fanfiction literature.”
This is Gotham we're talking about
I like how at the time, this was the first time Damian Wayne was ever used outside of comics, and probably one of the best since, he wasn't a jerk right out the gate... which probably isn't the best representation of him overall. Also, Alfred is a fanfic writer and a shipper, who is voiced by Avatar Roku.
3 things:
1. NICE TO SEE YOU HERE ⚡
2. He was also great in Battle of Supersons Thx to Bat-Cow & Jon, everytime Jon & Bat-Cow appear they make Damien actually likeable
3. Brave & The Bold Alfred was also Voiced by King Bradley in the Spanish Dub
Woh Woh what his voice actor is that of Roku awesome
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 hey do you think Damian likes rock n roll?
Based on this episode, my head cannon is that The Killing Joke (2016) is Alfred’s fan faction after a few too many glasses of wine one night lol
That's somehow more disturbing than it being canon
It actually might be funnier if Alfred writes fanfiction to make extra money and does commissions, and The Joker found out about this, and create a fake account, and paid in obscene amount of money for a Batman Batgirl slash fic… that seems like the kind of crazy things Joker would do just a mess with people lol
Don't insult Alfred's fanfiction writing skills, man. He wouldn't write Barbara so out of character in his Real Person fanfic AU.
Please the one without the animated parts
I’m picturing Bruce looking through the library in the manor and finding the fan fic and not recognizing it as something he owns and sits down to skim through it seeing if he knows it seeing his name in it a few times
8:38 Pretty sure the guy at the funeral is supposed to be Plastic Man. The hair checks out and it will explain why he has the glasses. Plus, he was a regular guest.
I was thinking it might somehow be the Penguin but Plastic Man makes far more sense.
It is more likely to be Oswald Cobblepot, aka The Penguin, who would go semi-legit. He would become friends with Bruce Wayne, despite not knowing he was Batman.
@@strongbladeseems like a huge stretch. Plastic man makes more sense, considering he’s one of the most reoccurring heroes in this continuity. Plus both of his eyes being covered, since we never see Plast’s eyes. Not 100 percent on it being Plast, but I’m pretty confident it ain’t Oswald.
@@TheShockVoxhehe "stretch"
I remember a few Silver Age stories that Alfred "wrote" in continuity. One involved Bruce marrying Kathy Kane and lawd girl it was a mess
I have Batman 145 (Feb, 1962) with a future Batman II fighting Joker II , in a story written by Alfred
@@Valohir666 I think that was collected in "Batman: From the 30s to the 70s" or some such thing
I can't believe I've never read that one! It has ginger Robin and everything! Looks like a follow up is in order :)
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@@Therese504yes, that's where I know it from.
Convinced now Alfred can only ask Bruce to settle down in the most convoluted ways.
Alfred took the "canon convergence" Ao3 tag and ran with it.
I remember this one Damian Wayne is Composite Character of Himself, Bruce Jr Batman's son from those imaginary stories and Earth Two's Huntress aka Helena Wayne Batman and Catwoman's Daughter.
Damian: I don't like rock n roll but I don't know why
Also, this episode is partially based on Batman #131's story "The Second Batman and Robin Team". That's where "Damian's" attitude and it being a story told by Alfred come from. The differences are the Villains not being the Joker, and Robin being a version of Bruce Wayne Jr. and his mother being Katherine Kane/Wayne instead of Selena since it was written in the Batwoman era of comics, also his parents may not have died I'd have to double check. They likely changed it to Damian since he was more well known at the time as Bruce's biological son so more people would be familiar with the name and Selena for internal consistency as a love interest (and BTBATB's Batwoman's episode I don't think happened yet).
Someone also tossed Batman 145 into the mix, this vid is going to need a follow up. I'm excited lol two episodes for the price of one.
@@CasuallyComics What a deal!
Thank you. I knew I had read a story where Alfred was writing a fanfic marriage of Batman and Batwoman and Dick becoming Batman II.
@@CasuallyComics there were quite a few of these tales, all handily collected in DC's Greatest Imaginary Stories Vol 2 Batman and Robin
"Alfred, I found your journal. I'm not sure what's more concerning: your story having me die horribly, or that you gave my prospective son the same name as the Devil's child in 'The Omen'."
I love this episode. The ending with Alfred writing it all as a fanfiction was wild to me.
I'm pretty sure that Silvery Batman costume is from that 1990s Batman: Brotherhood of the Bat, an Elseworlds story made to use all the rejected Azrael-as-Batman costume designs. Some were pretty cool, too.
Shippy Alfred amuses me. How about that Catwoman, huh Master Wayne? Huh?
Bruce: well she can maybe replace my missing heart piece of the joker
So Alfred basically spent his time off writing What If Batman Fanfiction? Basic fanboy.
A frustrated father wondering when he's going to get some damn grandkids already
One has to wonder, if it's because he's a historically accurate butler,
based on indoctrinated military operatives who can't function in society without a schedule or rewriting propaganda narratives,
or it's because the adult authors are themselves so childlike with no beter understanding than the children they write about violence to. Maybe I'll ask Chelsea Manning.
Never gets old seeing just how much passion went to Brave and the Bold. Its a pure celebration of all of DC, mainly Silver Age but it brings in stuff from all comics and all media at the time. Its so much fun to rewatch and spot all these little references. Thanks so much for giving BnB the spotlight.
It all makes Alfred seem pretty bizarre. Those are real people for him and he didn't even bother to change the names or disguise what he was doing with some of his own creativity like writers usually do when they crib from real life.
The point about the costumed weddings reminded me how Dick was Wally's best man, and Wally's ID was public when he and Linda got married, so Dick had a wig and shades on to make him unrecognizable.
Wally even jokes that only Batman would think to give a secret identity a secret identity.
10:47 The suit honestly looks like a hybrid of Tim’s 90’s costume and One Year Later costume
Damian's batman suit may have taken some inspiration from the batman one million suit
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Yikes. Alfred's fanfic gives Bruce rather a horrific death. Freud would have a field day.
The pirate with a parrot has gotta be El Papagayo, who was honestly more of a Jonah Hex villain, but did fight batman briefly back in the day and was then brought back in Morrisson's Batman Incorporated where he was a little less of a racial stereotype. But he did die, almost immediately.
I think that future Batman in the black and silver costume is slightly based on the future Batman from the DC One Million crossover.
I suspect that the mysterious man at the funeral is non other than Alfred Beagle, the goofy golden age Alfred who was entirety a comic relief character.
I think the top hat baddie in the montage is supposed to be Deadshot, his early look was a top hat wearing guy with a pencil mustache
I'm pretty sure Damien's future Batsuit is a reference to Batman One Million
Took me a while to realize Alfred was voiced by Avatar Roku in this episode. Love the casting choice.
Damien's batsuit looks kinda like Batman One Million, first appearance in '98
I think Alfred writing Fanfic can explain all the Elseworld's stories.
How? That none of them happened? There alternate earths stories from the comics. Brave and the bold depicted the else world's and silver age stories very well. I know huntress was originally batman and catwomans kid from earth 2 and it wasn't a faithful adaptation of that story but it was a nice story and a great episode.
That scene in The Return of The Joker where Joker explains what he did to Tim remains one of my favorite animated Batman scenes ever!
Damian's silver batsuit reminds me a little of the Kingdom Come batsuit.
18:05 I feel like that is the perfect excuse to make a video about Robin 3000
12:30
that suit looks very Batman One Million inspired
I would love it if you tackled the Superman BatB episode. So many amazing silver age Superman references.
NGL whenever I saw this I was confused but also one my favorite episodes.
Looking back it the ultimate love letter to what could it be.
In my head alfred has always been righting fan fiction to past time
The man with the parrot on his shoulder is El Papagayo, a Mexican bandit Batman fought in the 40's, by the way Papagayo, is Portuguese not Spanish, I am Portuguese, anyway he was retconned into a 19th century Johan Hex foe if you look him up but I recall reading his story in one of those 80 page giants in the '60's, yes, I'm old.
3:55 ok now i wanna see the footage of comic stores with wedding cakes
Batman ‘66 had random pirates as Penguin’s henchmen. Part of the overall nautical theme.
12:30 That metallic costume remind me to the futuristic Blue Falcon from the "Scooby Doo! Mask of the Blue Falcon" movie
Little know fact; Strange like getting punched by Batman and Catwoman. That’s were the strange part of his name came from.
What other stories is Alfred writing?
probably all the great stories DC doesn’t wanna do
I like to think like to think Alfred is the actual writer of superman’s girlfriend Lois Lane it started as Alfred being petty because Lois made some comment about the food or the house or something when at one point she interviewed Bruce Wayne, so Alfred got out his anger by writing story’s about her having failed marriages next thing you know it’s become a hobby he does every time Bruce is off with the league. Because no one questions Alfred ability as a butler.
Alfred writes about Bruce's "playboy exploits" and sells them to tabloids.
@@alexanderf8451 I just created a whole head canon with Alfred Beagle and Vicki Vale lol
I can't help but think of Neal Gaiman's "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" Where Alfred creates the Joker as an alternative identity to give Batman an arch-enemy and so let Bruce Wayne live out his fantasy.
Yay! More brave and the bold content!
I think Damian's Batsuit might be a reference to DC One Million, but that could just be the logo more than anything else
13:00 its also like the original Golden Age "Batman II" and "Robin II" story where it was revealed at the end it was Alfred writing fan fic (Batman #131, April 1960). Batman II is adult Dick and Robin II is a Bruce jr. They did a couple more stories that include a "Son of the Joker", so that informed this episode as well.
i want alfred writing more fanfics, and not just about batfamily, but others.
and maybe some smuts? lol
9:30 Personally i love Joker confirming you can Blow him up, falling into chimneys or even get eaten by Shark...Hes the Friggin' Joker! He'll always return! Face it, he's Gothams Penniwise!😂
I always enjoy these Brave and the Bold episode retrospectives from you Sasha. I'm still hoping you eventually cover the Doom Patrol episode.
Since you've been talking about various superhero animated series lately - I'm kind of surprised you haven't yet touched on "My Adventures with Superman." Definitely one of the best superhero series in years!
I think Sasha's interest would be so piqued if they do an episode where Lois Lane for some reason begins doing all the crazy Silver Age nonsense that Silver Age Lois did. Marrying monsters and being a marriage obsessed schemer.
This and Chill of the Night are my favorite episodes.
So, Alfred is writing a book about Bruce Wayne passing the mantle of Batman down to his son? And we thought Bruce was who doesn't understand what "secret identity" means.
I was expecting a mention of how, in the (Silver Age I think, could be Golden Age) comics, Alfred would write stories where Dick Grayson grew up to be Batman II (with the II prominently on his chest), while Bruce's son became Robin II.
Batman 457 changed my world when I bought it from my local comic shop the week it came out
The future suit gives strong Azrael Batman vibes to me
That future Bat-suit reminds me of something from the 1995 'Brotherhood of the Bat' story.
I remember the episode, but the only thing that stuck out was thinking that is a rather random story for Alfred to be jotting down. If they needed a framing device wouldn't Batmite have been a better idea.
even just batmite sitting beyond alfred. could have even put in a "the public's never happy" joke
Happy Friday and happy Brave and the Bold video!
Also, maybe that person behind Gordon is Chief O'Hara?
The Damian Wayne Batman suit, has a few traces of the Knightfall Batman with the extending shoulder mantle, Rob Leifeld garter pouch, and the beefy gauntlets..
mr toad should team up with killer croc
I don’t know whether or not this is a hot take but I think this episode (minus the reveal that it was written by Alfred) should have been the final episode of the brave and the bold.
I would have liked it better, then the actual series finale!
12:45 I think Azrael's Batman suit was definitely an influence as well
This story is SUPER similar to Superman/Batman Generations by John Byrne. Especially Vol 1 and 2. Joker Jr fighting a Dick Grayson Batman in the future I think is straight up from thatm
Great Episode , & I’m betting Alfred made Damian ‘s sidekick Robin Dick & Babs son, who would surely be named Bruce Jim Grayson hahaha…Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
Robin 3000 is an excellent overlooked and underappreciated series.
Sci-Fi writer Bryon Priess (sp?) and P. Craig Russell present an awesome story, as a normally non-comic book writer his writing really leans into Sci-Fi but given a excellent comic book editor the story is a good mashup of both types of writing.
Yeah, hey have you done the Blue Beetle Trilogy episodes?
I could be totally off on this but my first instinct is to guess that the mystery guest at the funeral is the Penguin, Oswald Cobblepot, of all people.
Wish they kept the episode as an actual Elseworlds story a la certain Ben 10 episodes, without needing the ending of it showing off a fine piece of work by good old Mr. Pennyworth.
Still, you know what some people say: all the fiction read in one universe may actually be reality in an infinite number of others.
Alfred you're not just fired, you're super fired
Thanks for covering this show! Its so great!
Alfred writing fanfic like this still makes him the most batman fanboy lol
Batman brave and the bold is one of the best Batman shows of all time
For damien's suit at 12:37, it reminds me of batman from dc one million, with the silver bat that goes all the way to the shoulders
This was one of the few episodes that I remembered, and I quite liked it. Good vid
Alfred: Master Bruce, when am I gonna get some grand kids?
Batman: Dad we've talked about this......
Alfred: You can be with Selena AND Talia.......
Batman: No more anime for you....
I could see Alfred writing about himself in his supervillain alter-ego the Outsider also him writting Merry Little Batman.
Damian’s Batman suit has Batman 1,000,000 vibes.
Based on Commissioner Gordon's other appearances in Brave and the Bold, it was Chief O'Hara, who is always by his side like in the 60s show.
This reminds me of the comic where Alfred was at Batman’s funeral where he tells how he killed Batman. In that comic he tells how Alfred and his friends where once theater actors and to help Bruce they all dressed as silly villains to so Bruce can fight them and feel as though he is making a different until it goes to far and Bruce dies.
that final suit has some feeling of the batman one-million (and one million and one) suit. which is a pretty obscure as a character, but has that shiny 'chest piece going to the shoulders" setup
also, cut that potential. but if italians cared, there would have been noticeable pushback already.
Great video! This episode always seemed so cool and interesting to me, also the new Batman suit reminds me of the Batman Knight suit Batman wore in that episode(of this show) where Batman and Green Arrow meet Merlin and Morgana Le Fay.
Great video.
The best part of Batman's original outfit will always be the Purple Gloves of Justice
TO be fair, Mr. Toad ends up in hell for a reason. (Thinking of the Disney ride.)
WHAT! There’s a Ned Kelly bushranger style villain called SWAGMAN?
As an Australian, I absolutely hate Captain Boomerang, but this is TOO COOL
But but but he has a boomerang!
“I’m going to be honest, I wrote myself into the corner with the whole “Damian doesn’t wanna be Batman” thing, and needed an excuse to get back on track, so…” - Alfred Pennyworth, currently being sued for liable.
I feel like the armor is close to either Justice Lord Batman or the Batman armor from when they have to face Vandal Savage in the past, it's been awhile but they're both Justice League 2 parters
Nah, if shops ordered cakes, and Batman and Catwoman didn't get married, it's the funniest thing on the planet.
Geriatric Joker has maybe my favorite Joker line ever: "The doc gave me six months to live... 😢 I gave him six seconds. 😂"
I liked this episode. It sums up what I think all adaptations try and do. A different take on many stories. In a way, each run on a comic is some form of fanfiction.
"I AM THE PASTA MAKER!!!"
(I know, completely rando and totally OTS, but anytime Batman comes up, I can't help but think about Harley Quinn!)
I’m an old fart (45 yrs old) and remember seeing Robin 3000 on the shelves & thinking “Nope, not touching that with a 10 ft pole!” 😂
Brave & the Bold generally kicked ass.
The guy in the top hat was the robber baron I believe he was featured in the third volume of the Batman golden age omnibuses.
That's such a deep cut but so cool
I'm Joker Jr, but you can call me Jo-Ju.
I am fascinated by learning Bill Finger didn't think Batman would be effective if the villain didn't die. Just thinking about that in the context of modern debates about whether Batman should kill his villains blows my mind!!!