Wallis Simpson: Kingmaker (2023)
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Wallis Simpson was an American socialite who had been married twice when she met Edward, Duke of Windsor (then the Prince of Wales), at a party. She became Edward's mistress, leading to the "abdication crisis" in which he stepped down as king in order to be with her.
Hearsay and conjecture have clouded the assessment of the Duchess of Windsor's life. There is no document which proves directly that she was anything other than a victim of her own ambition, who lived out a great romance that became a great tragedy.
The Duchess is reported to have summed up her life in a sentence: "You have no idea how hard it is to live out a great romance."
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Finally, a documentary that does not slander the Duchess of Windsor. Thank you!
Agree!
Yes, it’s refreshing 😊
@@a.harrison3721 certainly is ( for a change) 🙄
Finally. Because the majority of focos. has relied on documented evidence which,Im afraid reveals a vacuous spendthrift whos dalliances were legion.This one just went too far. Be careful what you wish for.
We never forgave her but we never forgave him more.
As it turned out, we got a fabulous King who had courage and led us through WWII.
@KateTarrant-Dean YES!!. bless him, how stressful it had to be for George VI, who was happy leading a quiet life with his wife & daughters.
So given what you said, I'm not sure why you never forgave him. He was in love. He got what he wanted. You got what you wanted---an amazing king who bore an amazing queen. Where's the loss? He tried to get them to accept her, they wouldn't so he left it because--GASP!--she meant more to him. If you are married, I would love to know how you would've felt if your husband would've said--"well Kate, the tail was amazing. Thanks for letting me hit it, but I have to go kinging now, so see ya on the flip side! Buh-bye!" As a person who's wasted FAR too much of my life doing what ingrates wanted and thought "Was best" being screwed for it and never having them reciprocate when their turn came--good for Edward for looking out for himself. No one else would have or did and he saw that when they kicked him to the curb. That's EXACTLY the type of family you would throw away the crown you didn't want in the first place for.
And y'all need to stop being butt hurt that he abdicated. He was a TERRIBLE king! And you probably would've been speaking German had he NOT abdicated You all were done a HUGE favor.
@Kate Toorant-Dean Wouldn't it rather be Winston Churchill who was courageous and who led you through WW 2 ? 😉
His choice to abdicate was the best thing to ever happen to the UK and its people. Without that QE2 would of never been.
So much for heredity being how god chooses monarchs
If he had never had children, Elizabeth would have become Queen twenty years later than she did.
He never had children so if he didn't abdicate Elizabeth would have still been queen but in 1972
HE was incredibly selfish. A bigger person would NEVER have put someone they loved through the shit he put her through. He was a coward who hid behind her ,for 35 years ,allowing her to take the flak and damning her ,to a whole generation. He wasnt up to the job ,his popularity created by ,what we call today "spin" ,went to his empty little pea brain. I never thought her ,particularly likeable either ,but she did deserve better than what she got .
If the powers that were, did conspire to rid us of this clown ,then thank God they did . Probably the last sensible thing any British politicians did.
Yes THIS, thank you 👏🏼
I think she did deserve what she got. She unscrupulously chased dtatus and prestige....
Well she got a form of it. She was avaricious and she got wealth and expensive objets d art and jeeellry and homes and servants. She was as foolish and vacuous as he. He at leadt had the excuse of a dreadfully screwed up childhood
I personally feel that his obsession with Wallace Simpson was an act of divine intervention. Regardless of his popularity, he did not have the selfless and dutiful personality that the following two monarchs both had in spades. And his views towards Nazi Germany speak to his true character.
She was the true Nazi, not him. His tour of London s east end, while Prince of Wales got him into trouble with George V when he famously said “something must be done “, about poverty. And ppl who refuse to pay tax aren’t selfless, they’re greedy.
In the end the crown ended up on the right head
She was Wallis
@kyliecross I totally agree. We would all be talking German!! The holy trinity did the world a big favour. Has this lady read the files on Edward and Wallis???? Not to mention Edward's own FATHER said he would not be a good king! This documenrty goes against the actual historic proof
Yes. I came here to say the same. You said it better than I could have.
I have read many books and watched many documentaries on this couple. Many feel Wallis wanted to be Queen - not sure that is the case- but one thing is certain, Edward did NOT want to be King. I believe he planned a way out knowing that Wallis would not be acceptable and it would end in abdication, so he would be free to lead his own life. Unfortunately it backfired somewhat in that they were never wanted back in England and spent an aimless life.
"Be careful what you wish for; you just might get it."
I don't think she wanted to be queen. I don't think she really wantrd him-just the perks of being the royal faborite. But she got stuck with him
@@shellytracy5396 I agree, you can imagine being overwhelmed by the attention, money , gifts, high society, but she let it go on too long. it was a pity Ernest didn't stand up to her and say end it now!
Harry and Rachel are our version of the Windsors
Edward VIII & P. Harry really do share tremendous similarities; tragically. E.VIII’s life is a cautionary tale for H. & his family. H. Does not appear to have any skills for introspection or taking responsibility for his life choices. His decision to drop all his responsibilities & walk away during a time of a pending world war was a blessing & astoundingly selfish. I believe Wallis had more power to influence his decision than this writer maintains. W.S. was not a victim. Any more than M.M. Is. Granted, W. reportedly had great regrets after marrying Edward, settling for members of the international cafe society instead of courtiers, & denied the style of HRH. However, she was showered with one of couture clothing & a gobsmacking jewelry collection. We all make choices. I hope it was worth it. Sadly Wallis outlived Edward by many yrs. & died alone.🕊️
How can Wallis Simpson be called a "king maker"? Not her fault, but the affair took down a king, not made one.
England got the right king when Edward abdicated, no two ways about it. Edward got who he wanted, selfish as usual
I don't believe she was intersex and she wouldn't have told any man about it before her wedding .
Agreed
It seems unlikely that two husbands would ignore that fact.
Could you please explain in more detail what is intersex, was she operated on or got other treatment.
No, but she did like the company of women, and him men.
❗Bless you Wallace. You saved a nation by marrying their king.
I am beginning to feel empathy towards Mrs. Simpson. A lifetime with a completely infantile man, ugh!
She didn't to have any affairs she had a husband in her life
I don't feel sorry for her, but I understand that she had issues like the rest of us do. The intersex thing is new, and I don't believe it.
She looks much more sophisticated than the Queen mother
Agree, and she’s 4 years older, which is crazy
Elizabeth Bowes Lyons was an English rose. Wallis Warfield Simpson was a cactus.
She loved her dogs. As an animal lover that’s good enough for me. I also admire her for not breeding ❤
Yes. She also did not pretend to have children.
I also think that Mr Simpson initially encouraged the relationship between Wallis and Wales. It opened doors that were previously closed to him. But be careful what you wish for. I truly believe that Wallis and her husband had not anticipated that the relationship would go so far and found they had ended up between a rock and a hard place. How the heck could she get away from Wales???????
Edward had the self-awareness of a brick. What on earth did he think would happen - that the RF and the British public would welcome his American divorcee with open arms? This was a society in which even the "innocent" party in a divorce was prevented from attending Court, couldn't enter the royal enclosure at Ascot, was not "received" in many households - why did he think things would be any different for him and Wallis? The answer is that, with his usual arrogance, he thought the rules wouldn't (shouldn't) apply to him.
Of course, with the benefit of hindsight we can see that in fact Wallis Simpson did Britain a huge favour in removing from the scene a man wholly unsuited to the role to which he was born.
Yes, there probably was what would now be termed emotional neglect, but he wasn't specially singled-out in this, and we know that he, rather than being a unifying figure for his siblings, in fact undermined, disrespected or was downright cruel to more than one of them. His feelings and thoughts on his unfortunate youngest brother Johnny can only be described as abhorrent, and his bullying of his brother Bertie is well-documented. Outside the family, his treatment of his female lovers once an affair had ended was cavalier and nasty, proving that he didn't reserve his unpleasant traits for his family.
……he’d the mental age of a 14yo.
This poor woman, she was treated so badly by all shame on them..
Like how Megan has been treated
She was also a social climber, an adulterer, and liked Nazi enemies of GB
Agree, I feel bad when I hear other people slander her.
The wonderful film. Thanks a lot
Divine intervention
I have watched several stories about Mrs. Simpson and I have NEVER heard such outrageous excuses as this woman has out forth.
Madam, you insult your audience by assuming we are all idiots! She may have been intersexed, as in not having a womb; but, to still be a virgin!!!!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think you might be a little mistaken over the married woman thing. The heirs and the spares have always preferred married women as their mistresses. In fact this was expected as first of all the women had experience which generally led to the royal involved to tend to stick to her while he sows his royal oats and the obvious reason is that the potential illegitimate offspring of the pair could be explained away by the husband. The husband pretty much always knew what was going on and it was often in his interest to look the other way.
How about all the money he took that should have been his brothers.
RIP Wallace. ❤
29:35 First time I have seen this coverage. Thank you
And now there is Camila.
Thank you for thus very good documentary that goes deeper into Wallace's psyche.
Had he known how unpleasant his situation would be after the abdication, he would have abdicated for sure , he was a complete coward and didn't want the responsibility ( and hard work ) of being King , she was the perfect excuse, he knew without a shadow of a doubt that a twice divorced woman, with two living ex husbands could never, under any circumstances be Queen of Great Britain and the dominions, impossible , the very rules surrounding this were non negotiable , he could quite justifiably been incarcerated as a national security threat or exiled without titles of any kind and no income, in a sense it was a national crime that he committed , having played the role of Prince of Wales with the expectation of becoming King, then the great betrayal. A God job if there ever was one .
Shut up. Look who's on the throne now. He is far worse than The Duke and the consortium is an odious homewrecker.
……Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon had a lot to do in getting rid of KEVIII from the throne, because he’d spurned her when they were younger. She was a narcissist, & took her revenge on him………
That of her being intersex is a new for me to hear. I have been interested about this couple for over 40 years and this is the first of me hearing this new scandal
Its been said for many years I'm surprised you never heard it...I'm not quite sure if it was just a nasty rumour or it was true
She was very androgynous, not sure about the intersex, but she did like the company of women, and he liked the company of men, both were bisexual, which is why I think they royal family wanted him out of their lives sadly.
What research? Wallis did nothing except to ridicule and humiliate the poor man.
Yup so many testimonials.
Because he was a sniveling man-child, who had Peter Pan syndrome. That would wear on anyone. He also manipulated her by threatening to off himself if she didn’t marry him, so she had no choice.
He was man child who was overly needy, and he enjoyed her treating him that way.
Wallis simpson . King maker or king taker ??
You can’t take a king without his consent
Neither. He was fit, and she hot stuck with him
Kingbreaker!
Bizarre title, isn't it?
I think maybe the term Kingmaker refers to Bertie becoming king because of Edward insisting that he marry Wallis. She indirectly caused the abdication.
🇬🇧 My Great Aunt was cook to Wallis Simpson when she stayed at the Beach House , Felixstowe awaiting her divorce. Also my birth Mother's second husband, Gordon Rogers, ( of the Rogers Brothers, Felixstowe ) , bought Harvest House Hotel, Felixstowe , this is where Wallis and Edward 8th spent some time.
Did your great aunt have good things to say about her? I heard she was quite nice and easy to talk to.
I didn’t ever meet my Great aunt. In her book, The Heart has its Reason's , Wallis Simpson mentions the 2 staff, and if I remember correctly, she wasn't very complimentary. Apparently my great aunt had to have French cooking lessons. This was all told to me by my birth mother, ( I'm adopted) , who used to live in Felixstowe.
@@Sharon_Mc thanks for replying. I’ve heard mixed things regarding Wallis, she was kind to all the children when they lived in the Bahamas, they had nice things to say about her, she use to invite them along to picnics and always make time to talk to them, but I’ve read some stories from people whose family were from Baltimore where she grew up, said she could he rather snobbish.
All very interesting, thanks for sharing your story 😊
@@79Bobola
I suppose my great aunt was looked upon as ' just staff. '
Is anyone keeping count of how many times this lady says “milieu”?… 🤷🏻♀️
Wallis changed the course of history
I thought that before wallis his affair was with a eoman named thelma furness.
……as well as Freda Dudley-Ward…………
❤❤❤
King breaker
Intersex. No, I don't believe that.
Su cara de tristeza y soledad en su casamiento. Parecia pequeño y derrotado sin la pompa y los ilustres personajes de su familia.
El se lo buscó.
The title should be😢 "KINGBREAKER "
Nah
Our choices have consequences. We will all pay the debt of our choices one day.
Why would they?
If Wallis and Edward had not met, would Edward have been a good king, or even a king who merely went through the motions? I think George VI was a good king. He went through the motions because he knew it was best for the country, and he wanted to serve his country because he was royal and being king was the family job. It was what his family paid to wear the crown jewels. I suspect that Edward did not want to be king. It was a burden. Then, when he realized that he had given up respect and love to his stuttering brother, and that George was actually doing grood and even great as king, then he realized that he wanted the glory of being the hero king. He couldn't respect himself. Wallis could not respect him for quitting, so he could not respect himself.
Wallis had style and class; imagine if her Uncle Saul did leave her his millions which she was entitled to. We ended up with two adulterers as King and Queen now (heading the Church of England).
I'm also intersexed, it's surprising to hear about Wallis perhaps having been aswell..!
She wasn’t. Just a mean rumour.
Maybe she was...he was known to have a few sexual quirks of his own.
Uncle Solomon was the brother of Wallis’s father, not the brother of her mother
Everyone know that King George the 5th was a rotter.
The British people forgave the "Rottweiler Camellia"but couldn't forgive Wallis Simpson
Hardly the same thing.
Hardly the same thing.
Hardly the same thing.
@@tessdurberville711 very much the same thing. Hypocrites!!
How is she a Kingmaker
That’s what I was wondering. Maybe Kingbreaker would be a better fit.
Because she made Edward's brother George, King, due to Edward marrying her. She saved the monarch
@@79Bobola George became King because Edward abdicated not because he married Wallis. She was still married at the time of the abdication.
@@rogerfielding1117 that’s why he abdicated though, because they wouldn’t allow the marriage, so yes, it was because of her.
She didnt make George king, it was his birthright@@79Bobola
King Breaker
Or the Harry and Megan story.
Eww no
Surely you mean King-Breaker?
Surely you don’t grasp what the title actually means
His brother was a better King and Elizabeth his wife a better Queen mother
Not very historically accurate.
Here we are all these decades later slating a woman who actually tried to end their affair, but Edward wouldn't give her up.
Thankfully he didn't he spent the rest of his life with the woman he loved.
I think they were treated abominable by their family and history is repeating itself with the hounding of Harry and Meghan.
They were Nazi sympathizers. Jr eas a traitor to his crown, and his country. Th Harkles are NOT being hounded. If she didn't call the press everytime she burps no one woild know what they're doing
100 percent agree. They didn’t deserve they treatment.
What snobs!
Wow ! Lots of hate, jealous, and uneducated speeches here about Wallis and Edward ! Let's open your mind, this is the year of 2024 !
Compared to Charles & Camilla and Harry & Meghan in 2024, Edward & Wallis are the angels and innocents !
Exactly, thank you.
12:29 😮😮 what, she was intersexed?? Really, how does anyone know this?
They don't, it’s a rumor
Wallis was a gold digger! She did not love Edward! She wanted desperately to be accepted into the British aristocracy! She played with fire and got burnt, but make no mistake, she knew exactly what she was doing! Only when it appeared there would be negative and severe repercussions for herself did she start to retract! Wallis dated the Edward, went on trips with him for months leaving her husband home alone! Ernest is the real hero, I’d love to see a documentary on him one day!
No, she was not. She desperately wanted out of the relationship before the wedding but caved when Edward threatened with suicide.
Why don’t you inform yourself before spreading falsehoods?
Ernest encouraged it. The husnands of the royal favorites also get perks
Don't you mean king killer?
NOPE. How do you not know what she means by this title???
Are these videos narrated by computers? Too many words are badly mispronounced for me to believe otherwise.
Such hogwash!
Oh poor nana like to be a subservient peasant to the toxic royals. Sad.
How so? She did love animals and she did not breed.
The second, Boston-born Cleveland Amory, who spent six months talking to the Duke and Duchess and their friends, was shocked at how gratuitously vicious Wallis could be to her husband, often leaving him in tears.
She’d allow her pug dogs into the sitting-room, but keep the Duke’s dogs out, much to his distress.
Or she’d be furious when he kept singing jingles from adverts he’d seen on television, or used Americanisms such as ‘I guess’ or ‘making a buck’.
‘The Duchess was a complicated person - cold, mean-spirited, a bully and a sadist,’ says Amory’s stepdaughter Dr Gaea Leinhardt.
@@lizziebkennedy7505
Yes you are hogwash
Natty or juice?
I feel megan and wallis are exactly same in terms of how the British press and public gave treated them ...
Megan deserves every rotten thing throw at her!!! WALLIS ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!!!
Nope. Most of the similarties are betweenHarry, and Edward...weak, abd stupid. Edward left and stil wanted ti be treated like royalty. So does Harry. Megraine stalked Harry, and decided was going to change thr Monarchy. Wallis wanted a few perks and to go home to her husband.
Completely agree very sad to see it happen 80 years on.
@@shellytracy5396how did she want to change the monarchy? She was doing everything she waa told to do at first, but thing is she wasn't from that lifestyle...she was an outsider kate is from that type of lifestyle...and weather people want to acknowledge or accept it ger colour does have something do with it ...she was never going to be accepted EVER so what could she do ?
@@shellytracy5396Wallis going home to which husband are you talking about Ernest or Edward?
Very biased in favor of Wallis. No, I'm sorry, she did NOT 'try to make him happy every day', that is just ridiculous. There are any number of verifiable accounts of her despising him more or less openly, at least in the presence of others. Theirs was NOT a 'love story', it was a story about obsession and narcissism. It's a big mistake historically to make 'victims' or martyrs out of selfish people. They were not only traitors to their countries and active pro-Nazis, they were traitors to decency and humanity. The fact that they were rich and celebrated for the rest of their miserable, useless lives is testament to the bad judgement humans make about other humans and how evil is often rewarded. We need to consider that more now than ever, what with all this counter-factual 'revisionism' of history's villains. King George XI and Queen Elizabeth were the heroes of this piece. Wallis and David the villains.
When they live off of taxpayers their private life isn’t their own.
I personally support Wallace and Edward....they were avid animal lovers...good enough for me ❤
The second, Boston-born Cleveland Amory, who spent six months talking to the Duke and Duchess and their friends, was shocked at how gratuitously vicious Wallis could be to her husband, often leaving him in tears.
She’d allow her pug dogs into the sitting-room, but keep the Duke’s dogs out, much to his distress.
Or she’d be furious when he kept singing jingles from adverts he’d seen on television, or used Americanisms such as ‘I guess’ or ‘making a buck’.
‘The Duchess was a complicated person - cold, mean-spirited, a bully and a sadist,’ says Amory’s stepdaughter Dr Gaea Leinhardt.
Hitler supposedly loved his dogs too. Before he committed suicide he shot his German Shepherd who had recently had puppies, worried that she might be adopted by a Jew. The Windsors were friends with such a person.
I think he was gay. Makes so much sense.
……bi………
Both were bisexual, yes. That’s they got rid of him.
The woman had extra-marital affairs all her adult life. She never went near Edward in the last days of his life, too busy sleeping around
Weres the proof she had affairs?
@@sarah6557She had an ongoing affair with Hitler's UK ambassador Von Ribbentrop (Discovered by declassified UK documents when they did surveillance on her once they found out)
How do you know? It’s just bollocks. Ironic though, because the Royal Family is notorious for it.
@@lizziebkennedy7505 There's a Guardian article that talks about an FBI memo with a testimony if someone close to the family, the German side, who said she would receive 17 roses from him which was 1 for everytime they were together. I agree though that the royals were hypocrites about affairs since they were so commonplace
Yes, how do you know ?