Fastest and Most Accurate way to Mark and Cut!
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- čas přidán 28. 09. 2021
- This is the fastest and most accurate way I’ve found to mark and cutout just about anything! Use your actual piece of material and physically transfer marks to it. This will reduce a ton of error and reduce need to accurately read a tape measure. It’s already super confusing being American and using a standard tape measure instead of metric so I’m all for it! What do you think? Useful or pointless?
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As an electrician I can say you guys normally just board over the box then jam a router in there to mangle the wires
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That's more of a drywaller M.O.
Don’t forget to leave the bit extended out as far as possible! 🤬
Lol as a carpenter, i can tell you those guys that do that they are framers that call themselves finish carpenter
Indeed as a union carpenter/ drywayll steel stud framer we definitely do this 😭🤣🤣🤣
It's almost like a speed square can be used to speed things up....
Ironic huh?🤣🤣
But it's a triangle?!
@@yournamethere123 it is used to make things square fast, therefore “speed square”
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This is a good book. Does provide a step by step introduction to how to build things czcams.com/users/postUgkxhgbP-6hUnXu_QRaoHgLztgsI0YF3HqR0 , also does offer some steps. Includes pictures to give you ideas for layouts and such. If you are looking for a guide, this is not exactly what you want. But if you are trying to familiarize yourself with the way that pole barn building and other out buildings, are made, then this will work just as you need it to. A few things in this book are a barn (of course), detached garage, storage building, and coops.
As an electrician seeing you cut that in perfectly warmed my heart
Ya and you jackass electricitions just drill holes through finishes siding cause you can't keep up with us. Time and time again.
Until the cover plate screw don't go in
@@foundwheels1939 if the screws don’t go in that’s the electrician’s fault for not setting the box out far enough. The cut was perfect.
As a Starbucks customer, why is the outlet so loose
@@scifi_shopas a maintenance technician, not enough caulking was used.
The square is truly one of the greatest tools a carpenter can have
anyone *
@@zforbes839 Not "anyone". 98% of people will never need a square.
The second greatest is a circle 🔵
You mean the triangle
@@getaflattyinya the circle is the greatest shape because all shapes are created out of it.
I usually just yell "Hey Greg, measure and cut that for me." Then I realize Greg works for you, not me.
I do the same, then realize my name is Greg and I get sad.
Too funny!
Lol sounds like a Jack Handy comment
@@scruffythejanitor1969 me too! Then I remember my names Greg and I feel better
Speed square is the best toll ever invented
Man I wish we had youtube in the 90s when I was learning. My boss wouldn't have had to yell so much.
LOL I remember when I first started out… 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@rockridgewoodshopI think you should learn to relax….
Kids today got it so easy with CZcams! Lol
@@saintsfan2605Yes they definitely do, but actually we all do, filtering out all the garbage there is some excellent how to info available.
Haha I can only imagine coming around the corner and catching the guy who told me he was experienced watching a you tube video to be able to do the job I assigned him! 😂 He would have held the record least time to get fired. Reminds me of a guy that I had just hired once with 12 years exp. He stopped to watch me use a boring jig on a door and said that was a cool "thingamajig" I had there and what was it called? I stopped, walked out to my truck wrote his check and sent him on his way. Experienced carpenters don't call tools thingamajigs nor do they require CZcams videos! 😂
It never ceases to amaze me hos useful a speed square is, even though the only thing I seem to be able to do correctly with one is make a straight line 😂
As a guy who does drywall, you forgot to cut all the wires in the box and make the electrician more money 👍
Or board over it and make them play find the receptacle
@@blake102989 Except the electrician has a blueprint and knows where the box is so he just cuts it out himself and back charges the GC. Problem solved.
@@robertthomas7239 and the sub contractor who did it gets away without having to pay a penny and no extra work
@@robertthomas7239 I like to make sure the drywall guy has fun as well, so I start hammering through the drywall 3' to the left and right of where the box is supposed to be.
@@blake102989 Not where I'm from.
As an electrician finding boxes that’s aren’t cut out right or damaged durning installs like this. Glad to see someone doing it right.
Someone said it makes you more money tho, is that true?
@@Mo-xj8sx takes more time if they're paid by the hour and not for the work done.
The most frustrating part of the job. Now I gotta go get or make spacers, hope I can splice my wires and the owner will complain that the plate doesn’t cover
Huh? It would take an electrician say something stupid like that... Doing it right? Sure its a great technique with small pieces..but how do you suggest you do this efficiently with large sheets of drywall? Or cement board? What about in a corner or in between windows or moulding? On the ceiling? Great idea when it works but don't say that this is the proper technique
This is not done right and can only work on that specific scenario.
I know it takes time to learn, I know it doesn’t come easy. Some people just have a way of making complicated things seem so simple!
How is this complicated? 😂
@@Void_0_Walker you just made a simple comment complicated: much like your life; lonely and complicated.
The oscillating multi tool is literally the most handy useful addition to my handyman toolbox. It's so practical for cuts and little touchups
As an electrician, this guy is awesome. If the hole is too wide, my outlet has nothing to sit on. I have to shim it out with washers and waste time fixing someone else’s work. Be like this guy.
I have 1/4” plastic spacer that save me so much time with outlets. I got thousands of them from a job at multiple retrofit locations. They slide right over the screws I can shim out as much as I want.
Work in IT at a desk all day. Absolutely learn so much from these vids. Who knows maybe one day I'll be able to put up some shelves 😂👍
I'm a webdev so I feel this. 😂😂 Best comment ever.
that is sad....
@@grosseader so sad.
@@grosseader how is it sad? Other people's professions are not the same as yours. While he knows how to mark things, Jack knows how to fix computers, while someone else's is saving lives. Not everyone can know every single thing. I build computers and have worked in construction, but still..... Mcdonald's workers might not need to know how to cut out 5 inch by 7/16th inch cutouts.
@@melwinder1 It is up to being human! What tf was you doing from 5 to 15yo? Whole day gaming, sleeping, coke and burgers, and same again?
I find it as normal, casual, to know this things by simple geometry and physics lessons , that are learned around 12yo in school!!!!!!
I started working at 11yo (for money) at 12 i bought my very 1st own PC. I know why i'm here and how to accomplish it.
Also, i do not wanna make it looks bad, it is nice to learn things every day, simple as this, but people should be ashamed of that they do not know how to draw rectangle!!!
First book I read cover to cover was “measure twice cut once. But only when you have to” by Norm Abrhams. If you can find it: great read.
"never measure what you're able to mark"
~Norm Abrhams ~
OMG thank you ❤I am a DIY’er who was only using part of the square. This will make measuring for cuts so much easier 🎉
Women aren’t builders .. stuck to making me a sammich
Im a metalworker and never figured out how to use the scribe lines. Thank you.
That scribbing technique is def efficient, scribe wherever possible and measure 📐 the rest of the time 👍
For a homeowner. As a carpenter, you should be scribing with just a pencil and your hand along the edge of the board. There is normally at least 1/4" of play with most cover plates. Its 3x faster.
@@johnd5542 you're exactly right ,I do trim and cabinets. Use the edge of the wood or cabinet , 10x faster than looking for my square
I'll be impressed when you demonstrate that with a full sheet of drywall!
edit: this is "tongue in cheek"...not serious. C'mon man!
You cAn do the same thing with a small strip of wood then transfer your horizontal and vertical marks to the full sheet!
Yeah, for drywall we just measure the center and butt the sheet against it with a couple or screws and use a rotary/drywall cut out tool. Its faster.
I can tell you've never installed drywall it's called a drywall cut out tool and the drill bit is dull at its tip so u use the box itself as a guide once the sheet is put over the box.
Put drywall against it in position and then tap where the outlet is and it will make and indentation on the back of the drywall. Then just cut it out. Works well with metal boxes anyway. Assuming petrude out of the studwork or wall
He wasn’t trying to impress you
As a finishing carpenter i have 3 different router jigs to mark out/cut in receptical boxes! Electricians love when the tabs are flush in the material. Makes all the finsihed plates sit minty 😎 if you have more than a couple to do, it might be worth trying! Multitools are a little sketchy when plate tolerances are tight. Especially on pre-fin material
I'm 15, my dad and I are doing renovations right now,
were installing wainscoting he had me do it around the outlet box this would've been helpful earlier.
@@zn6632u they do care, because gen z is so messed up they don't even know what wainscoting/etc is. And "they" want to see more people like me , not a miserable guy who touches grass an trolls a 15yo.
@@zn6632u he has a good relationship with his father. They do things together. Yours hit you.
@@zn6632u I have it on good authority that he also likes Led Zeppelin and thinks Justin Bieber sucks though
Have you ever heard the term “pick me girl?” That’s kinda what you’re doing. It’s cool and good to learn those skills. Using it to pretend you’re better than your peers is kinda dumb though.
@@da_poopoo_dealer3152 ahhh thanks Da Poo Poo dealer. You make a good point!
I love the speed square with the internal grooves, I never realized that's what they were for
Jesus christ....
@@griever781 😂
Me too
Lol
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Great tip. Maybe I'll find another video that will show me how to cut perfectly straight lines with my multitool.
It's called a square! Though a straight board can help too. I have only been using them a few months, but it didn't take long to figure out that a square was a perfect guide for straight lines.
@@javabeanz8549 I've gotten better with my multitool since I wrote this. The problem with using a square as a guide is making sure I don't twist the saw into it and start gouging the edges.
Wow, thank you so much for this! These cuts have been the bane of my existence working!
I think this is a POV of what it's like to have a Dad. Wow, how different my life would be.
A dad who gives a shit*
The next best thing to having a dad would be a good mentor. Because after all, that's what a good dad is for their kids.
Trust me, he didn’t curse at you nearly enough for it to be like having a dad lmao
@@rafaelaragon2933 The Almighty God has blessed me with knowledge and wisdom, you're absolutely right, I just thought it would be trendy to make a "No Father Figure In My Life" joke, those are in right now, two levels above the step sibling jokes that have somehow become a thing in our miserable society, "No Dad" jokes are appreciated by everyone. People psychologically see the implications it has on society when boys are not raised by "Men", and so it's funny because the world is literally burning down because of it. All of this is my personal and humble opinion, of course.
I feel that.
Didn’t know Carson Wentz took up carpentry. Thought he still had his contract with the colts.
He does look like carson 😂😂😂😂
I think you mean Two Sprains
He would be better off there because football he gets hurt
@@miami4evertheu mmlm mom k I'll
I thought it was Harry!
As an electrician, thank you👍
As a drywall hanger for 35 years, I learned early to take
the butt of my hammer handle and push the wires in.
And, I used guide points so as not to mangle the wires.
Underrated comment
@@lukehaight5011
I don't completely understand your comment. Please expand.
@Bama3728 "underrated comment" means something like "this is a good comment and more people should like it." Basically, he was agreeing with you and giving you a compliment. Personally I don't know about this stuff, but your explanation made a lot of sense to me
@@whitestoneandy797 Thank you.
This method also works great for flooring. When I was an installer, my partner would hand me a tile with the tick marks and I would head to the we r saw. I'd usually use the guides on the saw as my square. Customers would comment that we communicated in hieroglyphs. Lol. Super slick trick.
Sounds pretty normal to me
@@Mebot29 🧐🧐
Reminds me of a comment that Norm Abram made in one of his books. "Measure twice and cut once, but if you can, don't measure at all."
used to watch his videos with my gramps on weekends then go do a project in the loft. good stuff
Measure once cut once.👍
Lary Hann said something similar.
Measure once, cuss twice.
Measure like a trans cut like a homophobic
Give this man a sub. Kyle at RR building does this the right way. His attention to detail is unmatched in the biz. Well done sir
When I was training as a carpenter, the instructor always had us use the material, just as you demonstrate
At sixty years of age I cannot believe I still have things to learn. Doing a cottage refurb and already used some of your methods to build a stud wall. Quicker and much neater.
I’m only 22 but, I’ve had a few old timers tell me that if I ever decide I’m through learning, that i might as well pack my bags and head on to the next life. That probably stuck with me a little too well lol
Working with my Dad (89) last week. Had my battery collated drywall screwdriver. He reminded me about another cottage in the row we refurbished back in the 80s. Nailed the ceiling and hand screwed in all the walls. It was blooming hard work. 🤣
With twenty plus years under my belt as a Maintenance Tech for Hotels,Apt complexes and Resorts I was able to learn quite a few things and teach some things as well,keep up the good work and teachings to the young ones as well.
Great advice - thanks for taking the time to share
Really enjoy watching these people do their thing with such happiness and joy in sharing their knowledge!
Thanks❤
For a guy that trys to do my own projects and watching videos. This is the best and simplest way to do a cut out. Thanks.
I use my Oscillating saw for everything! Even has a sanding attachment with it. The Dewalt I use has variable speed setting so you don’t burn up your material. Def recommend!
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Called a Oscillating Multi Tool in UK .. but totally agree , best tool of the last decade and most versatile ! .. 👍
Handiest tool I've bought since my Dremel.
Hek yea, my ex wife like the variable speed 😁😋😼
I love my oscillating saw it is definitely a game changer especially when you're doing flooring and you have to remove old flooring that is either under a cabinet or under a wall I've got a toe kick saw but a lot of times the oscillating tool works better not to mention you can do all your cuts like this way easier
You are the man! Those electricians love you and hope to see you on the next job
Simple and instructive ! Most act like they do it better or before anyone else. You specifically stated that you were referring to those who didn't already know that. ! Excellent. Subscribed.
It’s the same principle when screwing battens to a wall. Drill one hole and screw on the batten. Drill the remaining holes through the batten. If you don’t have frame plugs drill screw size holes and open out with a larger plug size drill.
Great tip... Also, that oscillating multi tool he used to cut out that outlet opening is a huge timesaver for carpentry work like this.
Yea if you have a good sharp blade
@@DP-nb2hd why wouldn't you have a good shape blade? Buy some good quality blades and they will pay for themselves in the time you save within a couple of weeks and if you take care of them they will last you far longer than the budget blades most people use.
For finishing carpentry I use it most of the day worth buying a high quality one with decent blades
@@CS-zn6pp in theory you should have a good sharp blade but when you work for a union outfit, you do probably 5x more volume in a single day than a home owner or small scale non-union guy. And sometimes company owners don't want to spend the money to give each of their 10 or so employees on that one particular job a fresh blade for every use. So ya work with what ya got bud.
And a "higher quality" blade wouldn't last more than a week or so with constant use at commercial volume
Yeah. The blades are always shot on those. If only we had a new blade. Goes for pretty much anything that cuts something where I work. Utility knives to table saws. The blades are always shot. Haha
I really like your short video tips,tricks and tool demos. You do good work. Thanks for sharing your secrets Pal.
I would love for this guy to build me my house. Such a professional! His crew really believes in craftsmanship! Big fan!
Yeah, I'm waiting for a drywall installer to ignore the box, cover it. Then cut an excessively large hole around it, then fill the box with mud for no apparent reason
My fav. Is when they cover it.. forget it's there.. get reminded.. use a router and size a bunch of the wires. Thanks drywallers!
Push your wires into the box sparky
Didn’t know that’s what those notches were on a square, learn something everyday!
If you get a real square they come with a book to tell you all the different things it could do. You can build a roof with that thing
@@NightFyreTV so true, it's quite the book they give you explaining everything its capable of being used for
A squaaare? I only see an triangel??
@@ReaganWForrest not just any regular square, it's a speed square 😎
They are so useful I bought one to do my quilting.😉
Always a great joy to see you show us how it has to be than love you man
Kyle is the best. I love watching him build, but I love watching him explain the process even more.
As an electrician I definitely don't get to follow this guys work, my boxes are most times way over cut or so tight that it's forcing the box every which way. Great work though 👍
Same here...sometimes I think a blind person installed drywall in the houses I've wired.
I think a blind person probably could do a better job lol. so many people just simply don't care about there work anymore which is sad. The one drywall finisher I follow will fill switch boxes about 90% full and then leave it.
Man he handles that Milwaukee multi-tool like a boss! I have the newest M12 Fuel version too and absolutely love it!
😮Thank You So Much!!!
I’m just a do it Yourself kind of gal and I 💕 this! Keep giving us those tips they save us time and Materials😊
Finally!!! No more seeing you in commercials, just good content. Thank you sir!!!
I'm reading all these comments with people acting like he's advertising the speed square. The real trick in the video is marking directly on the material.
A speed square is absolutely essential for any carpenter and you'd be hard pressed to find a guy without one in the field. Like walking onto a jobsite without a tape or hammer.
A carpenter without a hammer and square on the job is like a cowboy without a horse
What kind of tape do I need? Scotch, masking or painters tape! A square makes things easier but not! I'll still get the job done and probably fast from my methods of madness!
Believe it or not, Ive never even seen a speed square in europe. And I really want one!
You have no idea how much I wish you worked on the jobs I work on. I'm an electrician and i wish drywallers, and carpenters were as good as you..
Ikr
As a butcher with 36 years in the trade, I heartily endorse this approach.
Nothing is more satisfying than a perfect cut. I feel it in my soul, or maybe its the vodka.
You missed the part were you use a roto zip with a 2" bit and cut up all the wires😂
Speed squares are such an amazing tool.
I was an industrial electrician with a specialty in controls, but I have done some resi and commercial and I have never seen a plastic box be mounted through the back. Always just attached to the side of the stud through the ears.
I build mausoleums now and wholeheartedly agree with using the material to make the mark.
It's nice having someone to show these types of things, comes in handy!
i appreciate when they follow up with these tutorials and show it actually working
This is weird, but somehow I don’t understand the context, faster or easier? Because I don’t need to spend that much time nor need to move the material. Take the height and width of the socket, then take the tape, lock the length from the wall to the socket bottom right or left don’t matter, transfer the length first, then the height and width with .5mm added.
I'm gay
@@nicstamford5965 congrats girl
@@dunderheadgood did you just assume my gender
@@nicstamford5965 i assume ur a troll cause no actual gay person says that shit lmfao
Great job! I’d just put chalk around the box and then place the board up against where it is to go and press lightly. Release the board and cut around the chalk print. Your way is more precise though. That was perfectly done. Thank you for showing.
And that’s how it’s done👍🏻 easy peezie I like how you are teaching tape, square, and scribing. This is how the experienced do it pay attention.
Wow!! I wish I knew this 20 years ago!! 😂 Seriously, thank you so much!!
Damn I could've used this information when I was installing paneling in my wife's she shed.
Your awesome for building your wife a she shed
Thanks man. That’s an actual good tip
I installed T&G boards in my home addition on a 35 degree angle some 40 years ago, still proud as I was an amatuer then of my box cutouts. At $12 a board, I couldn't afford miscuts, especially where two boards met.
he is like "imma take my square" and took out a triangle😆😆🤦
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Actually had this happen to me once. A 5 YO girl told me "That's not a square, it's a triangle. I know, I learned that at school". Didn't know what to say, so I just said "Oh, okay, thanks."👩🏫❤
@@jeffhale2278 you could have explained why it is actually a square how a square works.... lol
The speed square is an awesome tool.
Dude, its JG! You put up a hell of a fight against Max Holloway last weekend. Sorry you got slept!
I'm going to learn a lot from this channel that will save me A LOT of time!!!
Ive just started learning carpentry and love it. One thing I have realized is that a carpenters triangle is my most used tool by far. Useful for so many things i never realized.
It’s called a speed square or square, I don’t suggest u call it a triangle in front of any carpenter
@@treymoon9027 yeah I realized that a few days later. Again, very new to this. I think most would cut me a little slack. Everyone has to start somewhere.
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@@treymoon9027 🔥😂😂
@@0420Junket of course, starting out my boss would always bust my balls about correct nomenclature, I’d be like can you hand me the triangle and he’d be like you want what what u need oh oh the speed I square
Wasn't looking for this but I'm happy I found it 😃🥰
No you're not, stop lying
Great tip, thanks!
Wow. You totally reinvented the wheel. I’ve never seen that before. You’re probably the only person ever to think about that
That's what I call a carpenter. One that knows how to use an angle Square Great job.
That was great info and use of the triangle, thank you very much for teaching.
just saved me 5 min thanks brother appreciate learning more everyday
Great tip. Love your channel.
Wow I will litterally never use this but I can't help but enjoy these videos
Man it’s like my phone is watching every struggle I go through and finds a solution my guardian angle lol great video my friend much love guys and gals.
The Application of Math skills in construction, Geometry especially, coupled with the great skills always amazed me.
Excellent job !
“There we go”
*Doesn’t fit*
I don't use a wiggle saw for my cut-outs, I karate chop them.
And, I can't scribe as well with my Swanson Speed Square but I saved $260 by going with it over the Martinez😉😆
wiggle saw lmao, never heard it called that. nice
I call it Sir Buzzington
The buzz buzz
😂🤣😭👍 Thanks, your comment actually made me laugh out loud, God bless you brother 🙏
Excellent. I will be installing a.bunch of paneling soon.
After years of trying “measure twice, cut once, and then twice, then throwing it out and buying a new board,” I switched to “hold it up to it and mark it, because the world ain’t perfect so just see how it is and make it fit to that.”
I couldn’t tell you how many guys I’ve worked with that did the “measure twice, cut 3-5 or even 6-7 times and waste materials” method. Some people just aren’t cut out for construction and never pick it up or never grasp concepts like this no matter how many times you show them. I’d love to work with guys who truly are skilled like this and know what they’re doing and do good quality work quickly. Seems like I always have to deal with guys that try shortcuts at every turn and just end up messing things up and causing others more work and time.
I miss working with guy's like him. Professional!
Great use of the square. I usually mark the box with a whiteboard pen and place the wood against it. Then cut out the transfered mark. So far so good.
Like a glove. Nice work!!!
That’s genius and a major time saver! Thanks for the knowledge man!
Thank you for teaching me what those grooves are actually for
Great tip! Thanks so much for sharing.
Use the same procedure with exterior siding when you hit outlets, taps, etc. Works.
The essence of this video is what I teach my kids when the opportunity presents itself.
You don't always have to know the exact number in inches or centimeters to measure something and a lot of times it is easier, faster, and more accurate to do what was done in the video.
How was this faster? Kudos on you though for telling your kid that learning math is not important… Because heaven forbid they should be smarter than you… Literally 3/4 of this video is longer than what it would take to just measure it. Not to mention you can’t always do it this way. But you can always measure.
@@evilsWa, it's faster because you don't have to pull out a rule or a tape measure, measure, memorize or write down the measurements, etc. You simply hold the piece of wood up and make a few marks.
That's quite an assumption you got there.
I never said I didn't teach my children mathematics or how to measure. They are all performing well above their grade level and mathematics is something we focus on constantly. I know one thing for certain though, given your completely ignorant remark my children are far more intelligent and compassionate than you.
Did you miss the part where I said "You don't always have to know the exact number in inches or centimeters to measure...."? That would mean that I acknowledge and teach my children that the method presented in the video is not always the ideal method to use.
Yes, you can always measure but you can also keep your condescending, insulting and down right rude comments to yourself and not let the world know how colossal of an idiot you are. Especially having the audacity to speak about someone's children like you did.
@@BLUELEADER78 you have to carry material to install location mark it then drag it back to saw then back to install location... how is that faster pal...
@@grimendancehall drag it back to the saw? Get a portable saw lmao
@@grimendancehall You still walk to the install location and then to the wood regardless because you need to measure first to begin with???
Nobody just eyeballs it with a tape measure either, you're just asking for your cuts to be fucked up
Thank you very much for the tip
Perfect 👌🏼 👍🏼 🏴🇬🇧
Thank you for the demo and info
I love people showing and sharing their skills and experience like this!!!
What skill, any person with common sense knows this.
@@armymedicchris funny was my exact thought watching this “isn’t this just common sense”? But I guess it’s not so still worth sharing for people who get something out of it.
@@armymedicchris 99% of people don't ever build anything on their own, this is for hobbyist who are thinking about DIY, so what the fuck are you talking about?
@@armymedicchris thats not true at all. I have an abundance of common sense, although not enough to know better than to respond to your comment.
If you can't use a tape measure then put some washable marker on the box lay the board over it and put a little pressure... You get a nice little print of the box 👍
Wax crayon or paint marker works too
I usually use lipstick
@@rogerblock81 we’re talking about work not Friday night
Doubt itd be too useful for boxes as you’d need two reference surfaces to lay the new slat on
Awesome tip. I'll need to use this in 3 or 4 days. Thank you.