This Isn't A Gaming Laptop...😉 - HP ZBook Studio G8
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2021
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HP has been making laptops over the years and the ZBook line has been some of their strongest performers. Alex thinks you should know about the ZBook Studio G8... even though it's over $4,000
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We need more of this. I want a gaming laptop that doesn’t look like a 16 year old’s version of a spaceship.
I like my space ship... :(
@@a_spire Its the price for the smaller body, I meant if u move around a lotnits worth it. And thats what I prob buy a laptop for
with a 5000 dollar price tag 😂
Try Lenovo legion 7 2021*
@@imaysin97 I was gonna mention lenovo. They keep things relatively simple and clean
"Two colour accurate displays... that are accurately displaying colours."
- Alex Clark, 2021
yeah, not his best review, nice machine but a bit too much repeating ...
Thou he kinda forgot about the huge difference in contrast and resolution ;\
@@gurratell7326 câmera captures different from the eyes, he said to his eyes it looked the same
I came to the comments to say the same... Haha
@@arhurcomth The contrast and resolution difference is very easy to see even on a 16", so if his eye didn't see that he don't have very good eyes.
Lmao when will we see a video where Alex doesn’t start with him saying “oh man” with a small chuckle in the beginning
I'd be worried if he didn't
@@ShortCircuit Are you worried to remove the spam from the comments?
@@Z3t487 and how do you suggest they do that?
@@Z3t487 this would mean a lot of work for one person. Basically open every comment and look through every comment. Thats a lot. The first simple step would be blocking links in comments except for the uploader. Then a few filter rules and you probably can get rid of the most of the spam. But if you filter too strict, possible real comments get filtered too. Its balancing act, but doable to some degree. Blocking Links would be a start
@@Z3t487 not possible. On more popular vids, bot comments appear quicker than you would be able to remove them. The easiest way of doing it would be to ban links to other pages in the comments as 99% of spam comments want to direct you to another site.
"It's just.. it's basically just aluminium. But at the same time it's basically just aluminium - and it looks sick."
Alex, 2021
Funny considering that it's actually magnesium 😂
And I'm pretty sure the ZBooks are made of Magnesium alloy, not aluminum...
"Everything's better than Razer"
Ouch.
Not saying a lot there.
It's 50%-80% more expensive than the 3070 Razer Blade 14, too...
Never used a razer laptop but I love my razer peripherals
I have a 2020 blade 15 with a 2080 super, it's basically perfect for what I use it and I've a never had problem with it
It's faster for gaming than this, more upgreadeable, better io, better looking and waaay cheaper
I have a 2018 Razer Blade 15, works great for me.
Finally, somebody beat Dell at Crab Rave! To my ears HP was much better, hands down
totally agreed
Comparing laptop speakers as heard on a youtube video.. especially through my crappy laptop speakers.. yeah I'd say HP sounded better.
How accurate that comparison is.. well you figure it out.
you do know you listen to your speakers, right?
Yeah I kind of wish he’d broken out the MacBook at that point
Recording audio through a microphone and then put through CZcams compression absolutely destroys the low end. You won't be able to tell
Alex: "I dont know what people are doing with those."
*Yes you do, Alex. Yes you do..*
Making sex.
ZBook having actual ports is a HUGE advantage over the Dell XPS. I would pick HP just for the ports and better keyboard.
EDIT: Finally got my ZBook Studio, amazing laptop. My only gripe is that battery life on the 4K model is really short, I got 4 hours. Returning it because of this but otherwise excellent.
You would pay $2000 for one USB type A port?
@@LightsLuck- Prices are identical.
HP's business laptops have "fake price" listed on the site, the _Real_ selling price is usually exactly half the official msrp so you can assume around $1800 USD for the 3060 model. Unlike XPS, there's a mDP port on the ZBook that allows the dGPU to connect directly into external monitors, which is an essential feature for lots of 'Pros'. Plus I don't enjoy the typing feel on the redesigned XPS keyboard, it's too shallow and flat. So overall, the ZBook Studio is the superior laptop of the two for the same price.
@@mini9503 Is that only available for businesses? Cause $2 - 2.5k would actually be a decent price for this.
Just buy some Type C cables. I've been fully in the USB C realm for 5 years now.
@@LightsLuck- No they're frequently on sale at least on HP USA. Sales season prices like on Black Friday/Back to School discounts are even lower (usually 55-60% off), and price matches what corporations pay for on a regular deal.
I took advantage of this and managed to import HP Envy laptop from the States through the business portal at 50% off.
I really like the way Alex presents like we’re friends chatting about a new product. Feels really personal. As opposed to Linus or mkbhd where they’re really presenting like a proper host.
That comic-book-Z really spoils the professional aesthetic for me.
Agree 100%
Yeah, kinda cringe. Looks like some laptop you'd get off Wish.
"I'd wanna be able to switch out the RAM" *has 32 gigs*
If the memory has a failure, replacing it would be a nice option... Far better and more cost effective than having to buy a whole new laptop or hoping a repair tech can solder new memory on.
@@nikm5628 zbook fury supports up to 128gb gbs of ram
These are classified as mobile workstations. The people using them will easily utilize 32GB. My Zbook Studio X360 has 64GB ECC in it
My work ZBook started with 32GB, I have now upgraded it to 64GB because projects change… The Zbook line has always been an enterprise line.
@@nikm5628 Curious, how often do laptops have memory failure?
I got the ZBook MW G7 and it's a beauty and a beast. Its fast, mostly pretty quiet (execpt when Teams is starting up / I'm in a video call) and it looks so sleek!
Combined with a docking station I can connected multiple displays and I dont have to worry about cables or occupied USB Slots. I love my workplace so much for this!
"You want to be able to EXPENSE your gaming PC"
Linus: soooo....whatcha been doin....?
2:07 mDP is included since it's a 'business' laptop, it's basically the standard for adapters in a lot of business settings from my experience
Yup my dad’s work switched them to surfaces and are now switching them off of them, and they all use mini DP
But don't you have to carry a "mDP to DP" dongle anyway? Why not just have one more versatile USB-C port and carry a "Type C to DP" dongle instead?
@@mini9503 the displayport on most laptops like this (we have a ZBook at work) connects directly to the 3070 and can use it to power an external display to it's fullest with no converting required. The Thunderbolt ports may not be as good at doing that.
@@mini9503 the cables/mDP adapters are already gonna be in the room with the projector or whatever typically, so people don't have to worry about their own dongle
the mDP is wired directly into the dGPU, the thunderbolt ports are passthrough the thunderbolt controller, and the eDP is passthrough intel iGPU. When clients need a direct dGPU connection, they NEED a direct GPU connection.
1:15 my work laptop (Dell Precision) takes 2 type C/thunderbolt connectors for about 210W of power. We are getting to the point of having enough power delivery on a single type c cable!
Have this one (last years model), heats a lot sooo lot....I had to keep a glass of cold water to put on my finger so it does not burn.....I play a lot of Dota 2 and have a habit of resting my left pinky on the chassis next to the tab key. and the trackpad's left click is already not working...
HP pc brand that i do not even consider.... the more i know the more i dislike it.
Hp going back to Compaq seems to me has always had overheating issues + noisy fans, if what you say is true then consumers should just avoid hp altogether
@@Quayledant customer service depends on region. Quality aside HP laptops doesn't have good reputation for at least last 20 years. Other manufacturer had they hiccups HP just not getting better. Personally don't know any PC enthusiast that likes HP. As my experience goes even software side is Cancer.
Sounds like you need to contact customer service, should never hurt
Just use an external keyboard?
For that price, I’ll stick with my Omen.
Yeah, for that price you can stick with couple of them
my macbook air and my desktop combined costed almost half the price of this laptop xD
Get M1 MacBook plus Xbox, simple
Wait just a bit, the price will come down to around $2000 like it does usually with HP's business laptops. Their official price is largely nominal, the "real msrp" is usually half that.
@@arushh42 Why would you do that horrible mistake?
I really like the Z on the back instead of the HP logo lol Also how thin and cool it looks. That being said, im still early in the video and expecting it to be insanely expensive since it's also a productivity laptop
Lovely machine, I had a Zbook 5 years ago and it was a beast but it was heavier and chunkier. This is amazing:)
When you said fan in the bathroom I started noticing the fan sound in our bethroom which is soooo loud and can hear jt though multiple doors
Why am I watching videos about things I can only dream of?
performanc test would be great. cant imagine the 3070 and the i9 getting cooled enough for long workloadswith an A Series GPU would be interesting to see how it handles it
Very impressed. HP has made big improvements since the Touchpad.
At 6:00 you can notice how much the Dell XPS 15's screen wobbles like crazy while the Z Book's one is almost perfectly still, that's a win in my book
I am using a Razer 14 (2021) RTX 3070 and I am happy with the performance!
Alex, when are you going to do a video about the best laptop options for AutoCAD?
Jumping onto this comment to request a Solidworks test too!
What? Autocad could run on a toaster
The ZBook Studio also has Quadro graphics up to equivalent RTX 3070, but you don't necessarily need Quadro ever since Nvidia made Studio drivers available for the Geforce graphics family. So just get a cheap gaming laptop.
@@tannerhartl5175 Exactly lol. You dont need a lot to run AutoCAD. I used to run it on my i5- 3rd gen laptop CPU. Basically get anything with good single threaded performance, you will be good to go!
@@ark_knight run autocad - yes. But when you are working on large 3d files in the construction business and you have a whole building or a neighbourhood loaded in with all the electrics, hvac, cooling, plumbing, architect etc files it becomes pretty heavy and my current laptop from last year with a quadro card costing 3k$ starts to shut sometimes, especially when running like tekla or some other 3d viewer at the same time :)
Which one do you recommend to buy in terms of specifications for professional design and montage, if they are the same processor, coer i 7, 11th generation, hp zbook power g8, acer nitro 5 or a device
LeGion 5 or 76 msi Gf
Glad I found this 😅 my original work laptop broke and I’ve had it for 4 years, now I’m the branch manager and IT said they were upgrading me to a new laptop since I don’t go out in the field anymore 😅
"I don't know what people are doing with those"
I love that you're bringing valheim back into mainstream discussion because I haven't heard shit about that game in like 5 months lmao. Hopefully they start releasing good content updates soon because they promised them a long time ago
I have the 2018 G5 version of this, it's amazing apart from the onboard USB ports & display port over type c sometimes acting up.
This is wayyyy better though, 4k OLED and 3070 compared to my 1080p & p1000
Hey, writers/Alex, was the laptop on Geforce Drivers or Studio drivers at the time of recording? That would explain the low framerate in Valhiem.
You're getting less fps due to the power limits on this laptop alex , some laptops perform better because they have a thicker chassis so they run a cooler with less power limit , in this case you might see 3060 laptops preform better than 3070 laptops.
Well, obviously. Alex talked about that in the video.
That said, you’d be hard pressed to find a 3060 mobile out-performing a 3070 mobile unless the 3070 was severely under-powered and the 3060 had a couple hundred watts to play with.
@@DanKaschel the 3070 is severely under powered at 85w. I'm waiting on the omen 15 with 3070 at 100w which is still under powered. A 3060 may not outperform but it could probably come close if not match it. I would say it's pointless to have a 3070 with such low power but apparently it has its use for professional applications. I guess fps is where the power is drained. For the omen I think they throttle power because of battery life because it's a cool running laptop. They should give an option because I'm fine using it plugged in
I bet that a 3060 with 130 W on a lenovo legion would walk circles around that underpowered 3070 at 85 W
I was recently given one of the previous gen for work, and there's one thing to consider about heat:
If you cover the bottom exhaust (ie. on your lap / on the bed), this thing will get insanely hot, really fast - it actually gets uncomfortable to use by touch.
Besides that this thing is a beast 😁
Hpw would it go with a cooling pad ? I game in bed due to illness and always use a. Cooler pad.I found my msi gs63vr was much less uncomfortablely hot when i used one.
I got mine today, love it… my company ordered 30 of them!! Mine has a 3060 though and less storage and memory but still very nice
I have a 1st gen zbook. Man I use it for gaming and hard core programming, it runs so smooth. The only drawback is portability but even though its ancient it runs so smooth I'll only upgrade it when I have money to throw away
5:02 woah there Alex, I could hear the whip cracking on that one 😂
I feel the HP has a clearer sound compared to the XPS.
5:01 i was washing the dishes and that got my head turned😂
on the audio test the HP is the clear winner when I played this on my PC with a hifi setup
I can't wait for you to check out the 4k 120hz one too! Btw your fps would prob be better if plugged in.
Plus it was probably running on integrated graphics.
Yeah playing without being plugged in will absolutely fucking tank performance soo hard
love the Alex laptop reviews they make my week every time
Can you use both thunderbolt ports for charging?
The link in the description isn't the same as the model being shown here - specifically the I/O on the right side. It looks like the Amazon link has HDMI near the DC barrel input. This is important for people that have the zbook dock with the the USBC+DC input together next to each each other
It is more expensive than all the PCs in my office combined 😂
I love my hp envy awesome power to size. It runs Linux.... It's original ssd was copied to a gen 4 m2.0 2tb and became my desktop. Then installed a faster m2.0 in the hp. They really don't want you getting into their laptops.
You need to compare this to the g14 for the LTT review, cuz that will show how good its cooling the 3070 if it can or can’t beat a better cooled 3060.
Can be service?
It higher that 25 mm?
It's durable?
I love the zbook line. The older ones were rugged and powerful.
I was distracted by Alex's out of place hair that kept bouncing.
i like the zbook lineup use it for everyday task, sometimes uses it for virtual box. Works great for 1st gen zbook.
Does anyone know if this machine has any thermal issue?
WTF is that giant Z? Perfect example of when companies just make up some very random unnecessary branding just for the sake of different branding. I would much rather have a completely clean back panel or at least a simple HP on it. It's a put a sticker on it material for sure.
That razer comment... I guess LTT burned all bridges after the Christmas gift incident.
What happened?
Well, after saying everything is better than Razer and proceeding to get low frames says a lot... and soldered RAM and WiFi, lol.
@@mrmarecki1 Linus gifted a Razer laptop (I think it was the 1st gen Stealth) to every LMG employee in a Christmas party. And one by one the laptops failed quite spectacularly. If I remember correctly, an absurd number failed, like, more than 80%
I had a ZBook for work, the two year old model but it was a beast. Never struggled with anything, 3D modeling, CAD, etc. Only complaint was the weight, it's a beast.
and he said this one's lighter than even the XPS. I think this laptop will be perfect for me (if only i can afford it 😭)
Hi ShortCircuit. Thank you for the informative video. Do you have a video you could point me to on the Mobile workstation HP ZBook Fury - 17.3 G8 62T11EA. Possibly a comparison between HP ZBook Studio G8 laptop and the HP ZBook Fury - 17.3 G8 62T11EA
Ok, the HP sounds waaaaaaaaaaaay better then the xps does. Also, love the keyboard. It has the home, end, pgup, and pgdown keys without having to press the function key. But it still has the half height arrow keys for up and down, which I don't like.
This is a really good looking laptop, and those bezels are amazing. However, a 3070 doesn't mean anything in a platform that constantly thermal throttles. That's the big reason the XPS only has a 3050, because they've figured out it really doesn't make sense to slap in huge GPUs that sit at 80 degrees after 30 seconds.
So, I'm VERY curious to see if this thing has the brawn to back up the looks, or if it just dies a death after like 20-30 minutes of gaming. Also, that metal chassis=hot palms. The XPS uses carbon fiber, which basically never gets hot. So, that's another win right there.
Dell over HP all day. However, a comparison between the ZBook and XPS is not accurate as are two different markets.
does this give a chance to normally play any game in low settings
I really want to see a laptop cooling pad video!!
Should I buy one and which one
I've had a Razer laptop for about a year and a half. 2060 unit. It's performed VERY well for me. I now have a proper desktop, but I don't get the dig on Razer. I've gamed for a long time with it and it's served me very well.
They have a lot of reliability issues. That sort of thing is always amplified when you are over-exposed to the failures like a reviewer or a PC tech.
I’m glad you’ve had a good experience.
If it's called professional or workstation it HAS TO HAVE AN RJ45.
It's not negotiable. For people who get work done for example in programming devices or you want to move data reliably I want my RJ45.
Even the foldable ones they put in thin and light... I don't want to carry around a usb nic.
Alex said in the video you can buy the ZBook Fury series which are thicker and has all the other ports.
You can buy alienware X17.
It has upto 165W 3080 and RJ45
I love me an RJ45 as well, but it’s definitely negotiable. In my use case (and probably most others), my laptop spends most of its time docked either at work or at home, so the dock can have all the ports. On the road, I don’t need Ethernet all that often (though I do carry a mini usb-c hub with nic+hdmi).
You need what you need, I just don’t think it’s necessarily representative of the needs of the majority.
Can you enable hdr with this oled screen in Windows setting?
Is the blade 15 really that bad compared to this spec for spec?
I see a lot of reviewers leaning on the specified 3000 series part number. Haven't we seen reports (even from LTT) that the part number doesn't reliably predict performance? Isn't it down to implementation and cooling so actual performance rankings can be the opposite of what the class suggests?
Alex is easily the most intellectual and handsome engineer I’ve ever known
about the gaming performance, maybe the laptop comes shipped with studio drivers for the GPU instead of the gaming drivers?
I don't see the 3080 mentioned anywhere on the product page.
As a Canadian I think it should be pronounced "Zed"
We need an AMD version of this!
This guy out here smacking the laptop like his toy, Alex my man 13:17
Mini Displayport is important because office environments often have users daisy chaining displayport monitors together
Wait… you can daisy chain DP?
Alex: this is the laptop that you can expense to work
Me: so you mean I should not have been able to get work to buy me a Razer blade 14 as I did under the guise of using it for school work too?
0:01 crab rave doubled 😂
Thanks I missed it
Getting one of these from school, looking forward to it
I love my XPS15 but that HP had so much clarity at that volume
As a proud owner of the new Razer Blade 14 that dig made me sad. I know Razer has a hit or miss quality sometimes but the performance of the laptop is actually amazing.
Surprisingly the Razer is cheaper than this as well !
I really feel like 4k is overkill on a 15-inch display, and that display increases the price of an already extremely expensive laptop by a couple hundred dollars.
You can see at 7:49 that indeed, there is a IPS display model and by only choosing it the price has a huge 400 bucks drop
Hey would you guys consider looking at or suggesting to manufactures to make laptops designed more for music production, things like powerful cpus with an amazing built in soundcard without the need for an audio interface in a laptop could be a massive niche for someone to fill!
Please review the Thinkpad P1 Gen 4. I haven't seen any reviews of that yet. Thanks
$4400 for 18 fps? Yeah, great deal.
Pretty sure it was using integrated graphics rather than the 3070.
"Everything is better than Razer"
Niceeeeeeeeeeee.
I want that cam you advertised, but can’t afford it. I’d spend all day looking at stuff outside 🥸
I prefer my speakers in the hinge. i must say that is one genious way they did it on my yoga c930, sounds good to.
Me using an i5 2nd gen laptop watching Alex nit picking
🥺
4k on a laptop is already pointless, so lets add 120Hz to it and make it so there's no chance it can manage it. Oh and lets also make it more than 4 grand, that'll make it a good value proposition...
I have a zbook for work, not sure what gen, maybe 3 years old. has a i7 vpro with a Quadro T1000. i love it, awesome laptop
Where's the full test at?
Hi
Hu
The gigabyte aero has a color accurate 4k 120hz screen and doesn't look like a toy. There are some things I don't like about it such as the secondary key functions don't light up. That is probably my biggest problem with it. The speakers kind of suck too but kind of a non issue when using other things
Dude the soundtrack i cant concentrate on the video its too good
I have the model that has the i7 11850H, the RTX A2000, 1TB NVME, 32gb of RAM, and just the regular 60hz 1920x1080p IPS screen.... and It's fantastic for just doing IT work. Usually, I wouldn't get myself something so pricey, but it was all I could get.
I love how the HP looks the speakers sound good but I like the he gray and the dell looks a little smaller which is why I would get a laptop
The Eufy sponsorship aged well.
I have been using a zbook and now I think I should upgrade.. these seems nice... Hope it isn't too pricey
The ram is not soldered on, they have two ram slots under a metal cover plate. Fully upgradeable, at least on the G9...
Can someone tell me wich is the most performance oriented Zbook ( or the most performance oriented HP laptop in general )? Mentioned at 10:15 Im just looking for the beast of the beast from HP:s lineup.
Zbook Fury G8.
Hows the thermal performance?
I kinda have an issue with the fact that you're not putting the tgp in the specs and not mentioning it at all when looking at laptops with 30 series rtx. It's a crucial detail in my opinion?
Had a Zbook G6 but HP throttles the CPU's power limits to keep it cool and have a better battery life. I moved to a Precision 7560 which is not as good looking and a little heavier than the ZBook but performs much better for actual work.