The ALPHA LEGION in the HORUS HERESY | Legion XX: Origins | Warhammer Lore

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  • We're finally there - Legion 20 and it's probably the strangest of these videos to date on account of everything being LIES! So let's find out what might or might not be true about the Alpha Legion!
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Komentáře • 278

  • @mashzapotato
    @mashzapotato Před rokem +326

    Alpha Legion are my favorite legion because they take the 40k lore ethos of "everything is canon" to its logical extreme. They're the good/bad/neutral guys who either are the only ones who know what's REALLY going on or are chaos personified and just doing shit for no reason beyond what they want to do in the moment. Or both.

    • @SirZeu
      @SirZeu Před rokem +19

      i am alpharius or am i? (vsauce music)

    • @ecyor0
      @ecyor0 Před rokem

      @@SirZeu the vsauce music contains a memetic virus that infects mechanicus systems on one specific agriworld, ruining the harvest and ensuring a specific legion does not receive the food it needs to complete a 15 year siege of a traitor world.

    • @SirZeu
      @SirZeu Před rokem +4

      @@ecyor0 hydra dominatus!

    • @TheSebastianSykes
      @TheSebastianSykes Před rokem +4

      You are entirely… correct?

    • @SirZeu
      @SirZeu Před rokem +6

      @@TheSebastianSykes that is a lie

  • @richiek1155
    @richiek1155 Před rokem +23

    Don’t forget the best line in the setting and the best way to retcon anything comes from the Head of the Hydra. “This is my record and all records lie”

  • @ButchersNailsEnjoyer
    @ButchersNailsEnjoyer Před rokem +8

    “Eternal war demands eternal discipline” is a quote that keeps me going in the gym even after a 12 hour shift

  • @RuntyMcTall
    @RuntyMcTall Před rokem +104

    The bit in Dan Abnett's Alpha Legion Horus Heresy book where he reveals that the Emperor is dooming humanity and all of the galaxy to extinction, that the greater good is served by Horus winning and that this is possibly why the Alpha Legion turned traitor is probably the ballsiest / most shocking lore moment in their whole canon, I think. Pretty much turns everything on its head.
    I was pretty surprised that they let him do it.

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 Před rokem +30

      What makes it better is that we don't actually know what Alpharius and Omegon really think about it. They fight for Horus, of course, but to what end? Do they even really buy the Cabal's vision? Are they really playing the long game?

    • @haroldsandahl6408
      @haroldsandahl6408 Před rokem +19

      I always assumed that the Alpha Legion always worked towards their own ends. While people claim they are traitors, they're not. They are attempting to use the tactics and methods they've perfected on a galactic scale. It is why there are reports saying they hurt the traitors while at the same time helping the traitors. They have their own goal, and my guess would be to see humanity's survival over all else.

    • @edwardharman1153
      @edwardharman1153 Před rokem +8

      The Serpent Beneath is also pretty mind-bending - one of the few Heresy books I have gone back and re-read a couple of times trying to make sense of it.

    • @zalvion7344
      @zalvion7344 Před rokem +1

      @@Bluecho4 the cabal is probably biased though. Yes Chaos is a problem because humanity is a good energy source for them but you have to realize the cabal was made up of xenos who were under threat of extinction by humanity so getting humanity to fight itself/destroy itself no matter the outcome was always in their best interest

    • @cameronyoung8838
      @cameronyoung8838 Před rokem +11

      I always thought alpharius was traitor and omegon loyalist, or vice versa

  • @GustavWestberg
    @GustavWestberg Před rokem +79

    As a casual fan of Warhammer lore (both fantasy and 40k) for the past 20 years, this series has been great. You have my most sincere gratitude Ian.

  • @Bluecho4
    @Bluecho4 Před rokem +60

    The first 40K novel I ever read was _Legion,_ so I have a certain affection for the sons of Alpharius. Indeed, alongside the Night Lords and Thousand Sons, the Alpha Legion are among my favorite of the traitor legions.
    What I like about the Alpha Legion is their narrative flexibility. They can be anywhere, do anything, and fighting anyone. They might be traitors pretending to be loyalists, loyalists pretending to be traitors, or independent agents playing both sides for their own inscrutable goals. They themselves might not even know whose side they're on, only following through ancient and dubious directives.
    And on the battlefield, anyone can be the Alpha Legion in disguise. A chapter's colors are just a coat of paint, after all, and their agents and spies are embedded in many organizations. Sleepers waiting, perhaps unknowingly, for the signal to act.
    Hydra Dominatus.

  • @warsmithgalvinc4151
    @warsmithgalvinc4151 Před rokem +268

    This video being unlisted I see what you did there

  • @crimcrusader8459
    @crimcrusader8459 Před rokem +6

    The roman markings of the 20th/XX Legion is definitely a not-so-suble allusion to the Double-Cross system used by the United Kingdom's MI5 during World War 2.

  • @penguinhenrymd
    @penguinhenrymd Před rokem +92

    He’s only gone and done it!!! Congratulations on getting all legions covered! The emperor surely rejoices this momentous occasion:)

  • @ExaltedLordNano
    @ExaltedLordNano Před rokem +23

    The Alpha Legion represent the volatile nature of 40k where everyone believes themselves to be the Hero and at the same could be seen as the Villains of the story. They are both the most traitorous and loyal members of the imperium. I love it.

  • @Yacovo
    @Yacovo Před rokem +21

    Thanks for the video.
    Loyalist Legions: "Alpha Legion, I hate those guys."
    Traitor Legions: "Alpha Legion, I hate those guys."
    Alpha Legion: "Just as planned."

    • @SWProductions100
      @SWProductions100 Před rokem +2

      Alpha Legion: All according to Keikaku.
      (sorry, old anime meme)

  • @jasonnewell7036
    @jasonnewell7036 Před rokem +2

    Every single point about the Alpha Legion can be followed by, "But, did they?"

  • @RATZGobbler
    @RATZGobbler Před rokem +2

    It seems a little strange to me that the most enigmatic, conniving and impersonating Legion ISN’T the Tzeentch aligned Traitor Legion.

  • @trajanfidelis1532
    @trajanfidelis1532 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Love the Alpha Legion for their meticulous attention to detail, their use of human agents, their multi layered attacks, and their disregard for strategic and tactical dogma. Hydra Dominatus!

  • @joenewkirk6136
    @joenewkirk6136 Před rokem +87

    What an AMAZING series, I'm so glad to have watched as they came out one by one!

  • @SirWilliamKidney
    @SirWilliamKidney Před rokem +43

    I hope you continue to bring us lore after this, it's been such a good series!

  • @adrians2190
    @adrians2190 Před rokem +5

    I do little wees of joy when I see your Horus heresy legion videos pop up in my feed.

  • @brianpj5860
    @brianpj5860 Před rokem +23

    I think there might of been some kinda of internal Schism within the Alpha Legion, Similar to what happened with the Dark Angels.
    Imo, Alpharius gestation pod landed on terra while Omegon’s gestation pod landed across the galaxy.
    So it was Alpharius at the side of Malcador and the Emperor for all those years, remaining undercover as their secret weapon.
    Later when the brothers eventually found eachother, they decided to switch identities and it was actually Omegon who came out to Horus as Alpharius and figurehead of the Alpha legion.
    I like to believe that one twin stayed loyalist while the other turned traitor, and it was actually Omegon(publicly under the guise of Alpharius) who died on Pluto, after siding with Horus.
    While Alpharius(who remained hidden under the guise of Omegon) remained aligned with the Emperor and the Imperial creed.

    • @alphariusomegon4432
      @alphariusomegon4432 Před rokem +7

      Stay where you are

    • @00784865
      @00784865 Před rokem

      Yes, thats what happened in Head of the Hydra, Omegon met Horus and Alpharius stayed hidden.

    • @meepy546
      @meepy546 Před rokem +1

      Amogus

  • @Lord_Inquisitor7
    @Lord_Inquisitor7 Před rokem +17

    I actually choose to fully believe the story of the Alpharius primarch book, everything about the legion is so shrouded in mystery and deceit that most anything can be true or false, so I choose to believe the story that I like the most.

    • @alexyoblick
      @alexyoblick Před rokem +1

      I personally agree and choose to believe that story as their true backstory.

    • @Anni3sgotagun
      @Anni3sgotagun Před rokem +1

      People that say they don’t trust his version need to keep that energy with the rest of the primarchs. Can you really say you trust anything any of them say?

    • @KillerOrca
      @KillerOrca Před rokem +1

      "This, too, is a lie"

    • @DivebombMovies
      @DivebombMovies Před rokem +4

      I absolutely choose to believe everything in that book as well. it's so good, it ties everything so well together. especially with how alpharius (who goes by the name omegon in books like Legion) was always the completely anonymous one, and omegon was the one that acted as the primarch outward and had slightly more ornate armor and used the spear.
      omegon was the one that came forward as the primarch to horus, and died at the hands of rogal dorn. after which alpharius met horus before the siege began, giving them plans of the solar system, but withdrawing his legion from aiding horus in the siege.

  • @Booyaka9000
    @Booyaka9000 Před rokem +4

    Her Majesty passes, the world reacts, and in the midst of that chaos Arb-Ian releases his Alpha Legion video in the most Alpha Legion way possible.

  • @Jason-35D
    @Jason-35D Před rokem +1

    Ideally appreciate how your shirt matches the legion’s coloring through all the videos.

  • @ScytheNoire
    @ScytheNoire Před rokem +6

    I'll never figure out how GW came up with such creative names like Alpharius and Omegon.
    Love this series, hoping you do more lore videos.

  • @jdlr369
    @jdlr369 Před rokem +2

    Alpharius gave leadership of the 20th Omegon. Omegon became Alpharius and was killed by Dorn. Alpharius was heavily schooled by Malcador and sacrificed his brother for some grand scheme? I believe Alparius is still loyal to the Emperor.

  • @nicorepetto5781
    @nicorepetto5781 Před rokem +2

    This series is how I got into Warhammer lore. I used to collect the miniatures when I was younger but never actually looked into the incredible lore much. Thank you Ian for being the perfect introduction to Warhammer 40k

  • @apothyon2000
    @apothyon2000 Před rokem +14

    Finally my sons get their day! Thank you so much for such a great series. As someone getting into Heresy and with only a passing knowledge of each of the legions, this series has been really fun and interesting to watch.

  • @geordiepaul3099
    @geordiepaul3099 Před rokem +2

    Alpharius novel is great. Especially introducing the twins.

  • @MorboTheLeprechaun
    @MorboTheLeprechaun Před rokem +4

    I'm honestly so sad that this series has now come to an end. I've never been so engaged with a series of videos on CZcams before, getting so excited when a new episode dropped. Absolutely hats off to you, the quality of this content has been utterly fantastic.
    Perhaps a series discussing the lore of each xenos faction?

  • @IAmTheDawn
    @IAmTheDawn Před rokem +8

    your videos are criminally underrated. Cant believe you dont have more subs. Thanks for all the work you do in getting these out to the masses

  • @Commandobadger
    @Commandobadger Před rokem +1

    Now unto the non astartes human factions! I need this lore series to continue!

  • @Many_Sparrows
    @Many_Sparrows Před rokem +3

    Thanks a lot!! I watched all 20 videos and now the Heresy story is spoiled for me!! You should put some kind a warning at the start!!!

  • @Ithikialau
    @Ithikialau Před rokem +5

    Thanks for this great series. Not flashy or annoying, just a pleasure to watch and let the narrative drive the interest. :) Next series idea... the initial years after the Siege of Terra. Keep up the great work.

  • @dr_wilko
    @dr_wilko Před rokem +4

    Finally getting to my Legion because I am Alpharius

    • @megaduck7965
      @megaduck7965 Před rokem +2

      I’m Alpharius , and so’s my wife

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Před rokem +13

    Great capstone to this series.
    Any chance you’ll touch on other groups during the Heresy, such as the Custodes, Sisters of Silence, Mechanicum, Officio Assassinorum, et al?

  • @THCthehempcloud
    @THCthehempcloud Před rokem +8

    Thank you so much, this has been an awesome series.
    We need another one. Maybe address all the crazy theories about 40k. Idk but you are my favorite 40k lore creator so please, keep cranking out those videos!!!

  • @HEADLESSKROGAN
    @HEADLESSKROGAN Před 4 měsíci +2

    He survived by the miraculous healing powers of the balsamic vinaigrette bath

  • @benwilliams7902
    @benwilliams7902 Před rokem +2

    I think its also implied that alpharius and omegon maybe were differently convinced as to the cabal's vision or warning, and I think its in the scene when omegon hears of alpharius' death at pluto he seems pretty disinclined to continue supporting horus. There are also plenty of indications (although of course no facts ;) ) that there may have been various alpha legion factions during the heresy who were actively working against each other, or maybe they weren't, who knows?!

  • @aarovanhatalo8575
    @aarovanhatalo8575 Před rokem +2

    Will you be doing a blackshields/shattered legions video? I think it would be a interesting to talk about the non-legion elements of the heresy

  • @Instar_nine
    @Instar_nine Před rokem +3

    Head of the hydra is Omegon talking about Alpharius experiences
    Omegons opinions come out contradicting Alpharius thoughts and history
    Nice video
    There is unfortunately way to much to talk about with Spoilers
    It is unclear who died Alpharius or Omegon to Dorn
    John French and Mike Brooks comments are contradicting on the matter

  • @HistoritorJimaldus
    @HistoritorJimaldus Před rokem +3

    Hydra Dominatus!!

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Před rokem +3

    Really like that they still keep the legion a full on mystery. Reunification war for any legion is my favourite. Will you cover any of the other factions during this period? Nice video. Keep up the good work..

  • @AW-wf2dx
    @AW-wf2dx Před rokem +2

    Congrats! Loved the series, and the format -- clearly a lot of work went into these. Would love to see more of this.

  • @davydatwood3158
    @davydatwood3158 Před rokem

    The stories of Alpheron you relate here really remind me of stories about Loki - in the Norse oral tradition there's a huge variety in the stories; sometimes Loki is a good guy, sometimes a bad guy, sometimes just totally focused on himself without ill intent. And it's basically impossible to resolve all the stories into a coherent timeline.
    All of the Heresy 101 videos have an element of myth, rather than history, to them, but in this one it really shines through that these "histories" are really *legends* being written down after millennia of oral transmission and evolution.

  • @marjoe32
    @marjoe32 Před rokem +2

    Good lord how have a binge all 20. At this rate ill be caught up soon.

  • @jameswhite8238
    @jameswhite8238 Před rokem +2

    Congrats on reaching the 20th!!! I've been following along from the beginning. These videos are outstanding, thank you so much!! I keep re-watching them while painting ... learning through osmosis, lol.

  • @mahmodwattar8169
    @mahmodwattar8169 Před rokem +2

    this was a great series if you are up to make more "mini" series like it then I would love to see one were you go through the IRL history of concepts like the Primarchs, empower or space marines

  • @VicodinElmo
    @VicodinElmo Před rokem

    Something about the end of your intro with the credits rolling, music playing and you voicing over just reminds me of 90s TV. “Coming up after the break.”

    • @VicodinElmo
      @VicodinElmo Před rokem

      That isn’t a criticism! It’s kinda nostalgic!

  • @a.gjosaether
    @a.gjosaether Před rokem +6

    I have been such a fan of this video series. Thank you for the service you provide in making Horus Heresy approachable!

  • @deathlesslight6569
    @deathlesslight6569 Před rokem +9

    Finally an Alpha Legion video AND Liz kicks the bucket? What an amazing day!

  • @philallen9632
    @philallen9632 Před rokem +10

    Excellent end to an excellent series. I've enjoyed every one of them, and hope that you carry on doing these for other factions.

  • @baronbreakfast4681
    @baronbreakfast4681 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for making this series. Each video has been incredible, from the lore to the production quality. The series is a real resource for anyone wanting to take a deep dive into the history of Warhammer 40,000.
    Watching them has reinvigorated my interest in 40k, a game that hasn’t been on my radar in ten years. I’ve picked up a codex and some models to paint, although ironically I haven’t opted for Marines!
    I look forward to your next lore videos. Thanks once again.

  • @OldManRogers
    @OldManRogers Před rokem +2

    The II Legion video was the best one! ;-)

  • @sub39h
    @sub39h Před rokem +3

    This was a fabulous series. I thoroughly enjoyed it and learned a ton. Thank you

  • @elvenstranger
    @elvenstranger Před rokem

    Thanks for this series, it is been a great source of knowledge and entertainment. Not sure what's next but I look forward to it.
    Maybe a similar guide about the other factions, guard, mechanicus, sisters, inquisition etc?

  • @ivorbrae
    @ivorbrae Před rokem +2

    Most effective legion, by far. can achieve the same level of disruption of a company of Space Wolves with a half-dozen embedded operatives that might not even be Astartes.

  • @wobblytide
    @wobblytide Před rokem

    Thank you so much for this amazing series. I have to admit I half expected you to not release this video, which would have been the most Alpha Legion move.

  • @gregoryvigneault1824
    @gregoryvigneault1824 Před rokem +1

    Hopefully they are waiting for the right moment to turn on the chaos or revive the emperor with some of that secret technology

  • @unknownexo
    @unknownexo Před rokem +2

    Great videos, I'm new to 40k lore and your videos have helped alot

  • @Zoulstorm
    @Zoulstorm Před rokem

    These are great! I hope you do videos on the different mechanicum ordos and imperial militia etc as well!

  • @antonioruizfernandez8281

    What an amazing series Ian, I love your channel and no doubt that I will stay subscribe after this ride had ended.

  • @gilledgar2243
    @gilledgar2243 Před rokem +1

    My reaction after every (almost) videos in this series, "oh, a X legion, maby I should do that instead..."

  • @Red2Productions
    @Red2Productions Před rokem

    Great series Ian. I was waiting for this one, got a bit worried for you when we had no content for a couple of week.

  • @eggsmcneil
    @eggsmcneil Před rokem +6

    Can we get a 2nd Founding Series now? ;) Great stuff as always.

  • @redacted8092
    @redacted8092 Před rokem

    Funny, I checked earlier today to see if you'd made one of these for the Alpha Legion. Was disappointed to not see it, only to come home to this new video! Woo

  • @richardstanton5329
    @richardstanton5329 Před rokem

    Nearly couldn't wait for this to come out while at the same time sad that is here. I have really enjoyed this series. Thanks for doing it.

  • @johnkevill470
    @johnkevill470 Před rokem

    Thanks for the lore, I really enjoyed the series. Keep bringing us tales of the great and terrible Imperium of Man and the warriors who fight for and against it.

  • @DerekdaDude91
    @DerekdaDude91 Před rokem

    I really enjoyed this series. Very informative and interesting. Was always looking forward for the next episode. Thank you very much :)

  • @HBon111
    @HBon111 Před rokem +1

    YES! I have been waiting so long for these guys! It's a tie between them and the IW's for my favourite.

  • @tiredoldfraggle12
    @tiredoldfraggle12 Před rokem

    Congrats on getting through all the legions. You've done an absolutely fantastic job on these. That being said, my loyalty to the First Legion has not wavered though these all of these holograms. I'm looking forward to whatever lore series you come up with next.

  • @danknatank6623
    @danknatank6623 Před rokem

    The absolute best series regarding the original 20 legions, hopefully there'll be a series similar to this regarding the Badab war chapters or other subfactions!

  • @alpharius4434
    @alpharius4434 Před rokem +2

    Please Ian ! Do the others chapters of the foundings ! I loved your work on this series !

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205

    "I am Alpharius"
    - Alpharius, probrably.

  • @TomFynn
    @TomFynn Před 6 měsíci

    "What side is the Alpha Legion on?"
    "Yes."

  • @gingerone11
    @gingerone11 Před rokem +2

    Hope you're going to carry on with the Sisters of Silence, Solar Auxlia, The Custards and so on.

  • @robertflynn4215
    @robertflynn4215 Před rokem +1

    My favorite loyalist/traitor legion.

  • @Mugdorna
    @Mugdorna Před rokem +1

    Wonderful series. Sad to have it end (even though it always had to)

  • @tomroberts6934
    @tomroberts6934 Před rokem +1

    Thanks very much for doing this series, I’ve really enjoyed it

  • @matthewthomas5657
    @matthewthomas5657 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for this terrific series Ian!

  • @bmbtdk
    @bmbtdk Před rokem +1

    A lovely ride, thank you Ian.

  • @Zdarkete
    @Zdarkete Před rokem

    Halfway through, i was shocked to learn that this video contains spoilers.
    Anyway, thank you so much for this series Ian. Amazing job.

  • @alexsmith7313
    @alexsmith7313 Před rokem

    I've always loved the idea that Alpharius disguised himself as a Custodes alongside the Emperor, that way he wouldn't need to deal with questions of why he was in any given place, and he could operate with Custodes credentials but not dressed as one for more covert operations.

  • @ericasandberg7286
    @ericasandberg7286 Před rokem +2

    Hydra Dominatus! 🐉

  • @Dan_Wintermoon
    @Dan_Wintermoon Před rokem

    This was one of the best lore series I've ever enjoyed, regardless of the franchise. I loved every video. Can't wait to see what you do next. Great work

  • @justinmaitland7335
    @justinmaitland7335 Před rokem

    when reading "the praetorian of dorn" i feel it is pretty clear Alpharius was commanding the attacking fleet, not on pluto fighting dorn (who only triumphs due to assistance).

  • @spergalicious2940
    @spergalicious2940 Před rokem

    I've absolutely loved this series, thank you so much for making these.

  • @MrCai01
    @MrCai01 Před rokem

    Great series Ian. Look forward to whatever comes next

  • @cruc1form
    @cruc1form Před rokem

    Thank you for making this series. I'm sure i'll watch them many more times.

  • @docterfantazmo
    @docterfantazmo Před rokem

    Amazing, dude, phenomenal work.
    ...
    Now do the Ork clanz!

  • @TamDNB
    @TamDNB Před rokem +6

    Thanks for this series Ian, it's been epic

  • @danielhenderson8000
    @danielhenderson8000 Před rokem

    A wild legion to end this series on! The Alpha Legion do what I honestly never really pictured a Space Marine doing, but they are really interesting and delightfully bizarre. This has been an AWESOME way to dig into the lore of the Horus Heresy and I am eager to see more of these kinds of videos. Perhaps the other factions next? Or the major characters? Or perhaps some shocking twist from a secretive angle that no one saw coming! (How thematic!)

  • @shawnflynn5391
    @shawnflynn5391 Před rokem

    I clicked on this accidentally, after 5 minutes you got me bud. Now my work listening. Cheers from murica

  • @anamnesisdavid2918
    @anamnesisdavid2918 Před rokem

    Out of curiosity, do you have any plans to do the same kind of video for talons, 30k mechanicum and solar auxilia ? That was a wonderful serie to follow !

  • @philhitchings
    @philhitchings Před rokem +1

    Brilliant series. Thank you very much :)

  • @TangyZizzle456
    @TangyZizzle456 Před rokem

    this is the one I was looking forward to most, great video

  • @Eddieo9999
    @Eddieo9999 Před rokem

    Great series Ian! Hard one to finish off with aswell!

  • @RealChaosSmurf
    @RealChaosSmurf Před rokem

    Heavily enjoyed this series, looking forward to whatever's next to fill the gap.

  • @ovan2190
    @ovan2190 Před rokem

    I'm so bummed that this series is over :( it was so much fun to watch :) I hope can't wait for what comes next though I hope there more Horus Heresy stuff planned at least, if not I'm excited for the next video

  • @pendantblade6361
    @pendantblade6361 Před rokem

    Congrats for all twenty episodes, Ian! Truly you are one of the Emperor's Finest.

  • @ebriblet449
    @ebriblet449 Před rokem +1

    We must have read a different book because Omegon is the one that died Alpharius was the one that felt it far off and then goes my "Alpharius Omegon" as tribute. At least how I read it. (over and over) "Alpharius is my fav."

  • @musicalDrebin
    @musicalDrebin Před rokem +1

    man these were a load of fun. thanks a bunch

  • @fallstar7013
    @fallstar7013 Před rokem

    thanks for all your hard work on this series man! Great work.