The new Hokuriku Shinkansen extension has one HUGE issue
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2024
- Japan's latest high-speed rail extension will open tomorrow, 16 March 2024, on the Hokuriku Shinkansen line. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokurik...
However, the extension doesn't sit well with many people, mainly because of issues with its terminus, Tsuruga station, which I visited in February.
Come along and explore all about the extension, the new station, its main problems, and my takes on the matter.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:28 Thunderbird to Tsuruga
4:23 New extension
5:31 Tsuruga station
6:46 Problems with the station
8:45 What could've been done
10:34 Future extensions
11:15 Shirasagi from Tsuruga
12:20 Outro
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Watched your video prior to our trip from Shin-Osaka to Kanazawa and it left me with a little anxiety if I’m honest. But the concerns about the transfer time were completely unfounded, with 9 minutes between trains we rushed off our Thunderbird express train to make the transfer with the Shinkansen and made it with more than 5 minutes to spare. The station is really nice and easy to navigate, with trains running on consistent platforms it’s easy to check ahead of time the departing platform for the connection and make the transfer.
Another point is the cost, from what I believe, with this transfer, the price would go up since it becomes two individual sections, and part of it becomes the more expensive Shinkansen. So more cost with pretty much only 10% travel time off with the possibility to be stuck at a crowded station and losing the good old time of one seat for the entire trip. And it just basically ''forces'' people to pay higher with no significant improvements and provides no good alternative for people.
yeah the new Shinkansen is pretty polarizing cuz the east (greater Tokyo area) love it while the west (Kansai - Osaka, Kyoto, Kobe, etc) hate it
Kansai is pretty much stuck with this until the Shinkansen eventually reaches them, but who knows how long that'll take
Three scenarios:
1) Dual-gauge the Kosei Line. Disadvantages however are in the loading gauge, and the speed is not fast enough.
2) Run thunderbird as a through service and type-3 operator to at least Fukui, but even that would render handing over the Hokuriku Main Line to Hapi/IR to be redundant.
3) Hapi takes over Thunderbird and runs chokutsu onto the Kosei Main Line. But it would require Hapi to have money in the first place. That said it's been done before with Hokuetsu Express. You also get some flexibility with JR pass holders.
1) thru running to Kosei Line was the original plan with gauge-changing trains, which I think would be pretty cool except it also runs into issues with reliability
the line is subject to strong mountain winds so it is often delayed and Thunderbird trains either get hit with a speed limit, or get rerouted to Maibara
in fact it already happened like a few days ago fxtwitter.com/shinkansen_ex/status/1769522923554111873
One of the proposed routes of the Shinkansen extension from Tsuruga to Osaka actually parallels the Kosei Line, which was ultimately dropped in favour of the Obama-Kyoto route
It’s a good call by JR West, cuz it really sucks if shinkansen often gets delayed like this
2/3) obviously running main line express to Fukui would be a crowd pleaser, but I guess JRW would be against the idea cuz it splits ridership from their shinkansen
what if JRW runs a special rapid service that thru runs with Hapi’s rapid service?
8-car 223/225 + 2+2-car 521
that would be a banger service
Manggarai station ahh moment
just read about the station on wikipedia
i can certainly see the similarities in structure
except Manggarai seems way busier with two main lines each with their own sets of platforms which makes working in a cross-platform transfer seem very hard
i would definitely love to check out Jakarta (and Indonesia) someday, and check out the Japanese rolling stock plus the new high speed rail
speaking of, i would love to hear your thoughts on Halim, which doesn't seem too convenient, as it lacks a direct rail connection to the city center
@@mann_1586Eyea the new Manggarai is pretty horribly design, especially with their cheap escalators, they broke down almost every 2 weeks and the repair time can take almost 2 month each
And thank god they finally opened platform 1-4 for Cikarang line recently. Before that Cikarang line was served on platform 5-7 and it was a nightmare because there's only a single track connecting the platform with the main line one the south side plus lack of stairs and big pillars on that rather narrow island platform
If you want to visit Jakarta's commuter train network my advice is just try to avoid the rush hour, people get squeezed inside the train. Well at least until the new and refurbished train set is ready for operation
@@mann_1586E halim station actually has a rail connection to the city center and its the brand new LRT Jabodebek with its Automated GoA 3 trains and its actually not that bad even tho it will be better if the actual HSR terminus was on the city center just like what japan offer on the bid against china, but from my perspective as someone who live in East Jakarta its actually good to have the station here because i dont think they will also make station here if the terminus was on Dukuh Atas
From my train enthusiast perspective it will be better for everyone if the terminus was on the city center
But yea indonesia is really need the technology transfer from this project to grow its economy where japan didn't offer unlike china and i hope japan will still involved on the conventional train and MRT projects
And yes, Manggarai and other commuter train problem still need japan help like the electrification in greater surabaya and greater bandung
7:50 Late trains cause delays 🤣Deutsche Bahn Logo
Fortunately, in Austria we dont have it that bad with our trains (look at that Railjet Beauty 😍) - but i think japanese Trains are still better, even the commuter ones
(sorry germans)