Eye of the Beholder for Commodore 128 - Ultimate Gaming Rig Setup
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- In November of 2022, Eye of the Beholder for C64 and C128 dropped like a dragon roar heard 'round the realm. In this video I demonstrate what is one of the best ways to fully enjoy this incredible gaming experience. I use vintage hardware with a touch of modernity for the storage option. ARTICLE VERSION: www.amigalove.com/viewtopic.p...
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00:00 - 01:15 Introduction
01:16 - 01:30 AmigaLove Logo Animation
01:31 - 03:22 Hardware (C128, 1351)
03:23 - 04:05 Ultimate: Issues
04:06 - 06:10 EasyFlash 3 and Floppy Disks
06:11 - 07:19 Monitors (Plural)
07:20 - 09:35 Playing the Game - Starting Up
09:36 - 10:25 Mechanics
10:26 - 11:50 Final Sequence Bug, and Fix
11:51 - 12:16 Conclusion
12:17 - 12:42 Outro
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Yeah Eye of the Beholder is monumental for a commodore 64 game.. just unbelievable!
This is absolutely amazing! I had no idea something like this could be made. I recently got my old 128 running again so I've got to get this set up!
Did you get a chance to give it a go?
Been over a year and just rewatched this video because it came up in my YT feed. I see your "Don't Panic" button from Infocoms HGTTG which I must of missed the 1st time I watched this.
Haha! Yes - I use that button in a ton of my shots. Just briefly scroll my instagram feed and you'll see it multiple times. Sometimes it is well hidden, or in dark shadow, or on its side, but it is often there. =) instagram.com/amigal0ve/
@@AmigaLove I use X, FB retro groups, TT and YT. I do have an instagram account that my stepdaughter set up for me around 2 years ago if I had to guess. I used it for only a short time because at the time I was getting interaction on X and FB, but it was dead silent on instagram. Should I give it another try?
That is a sweet setup! 😊
Thanks! I can't complain. Honestly, I like just looking at it sometimes while not even using it.
Looking at it right now! Looks great!
This is some great content
Amazing!
Very nice video! TY for all the great content.
Charles, you are the MAN! Thanks a bunch. What an amazing time for Commodore fans!!
Stream of consciousness for the win. Just genuine nerd love bursting with joy.
LOL 100%. I practically exploded nerd juice all over the dang place.
It's a curse.
I downloaded the crt file and use it on my Kung Fu flash. It works great and you can even set the Kung Fu Flash for c128 mode which allows for the turbo option 2MHz in the game.
What can I say about EOB that hasn’t already been said? 11/10. Bravo.
Kung Fu Flash - last I checked - isn't 100% supported on NTSC machines. Are you on NTSC? That would be cool to have another option.
Someone else told me they use a BackBit. It normally wouldn't work (like the Ultimate) but apparently is you use a special modern PLA replacement, it does. Except - those are completely sold out due to chip shortages so it isn't really an option for me today. Cool way to go about it, though.
@@AmigaLove : Yes my c64 and c128s are both NTSC machines. Working great.
@@curiousottman Interesting! Thanks for the info, BTTB!
@@curiousottman And you didn't need to do any PLA replacement etc?
Great video. Answered all my questions. I was wondering why my C128 was crashing on 2MHz mode and now I know. Also good to know about the end sequence glitch in 2MHz mode. Hope I'll get there one day.
Awesome! Thanks for showing your setup, so cool! One more reason to make a "permanent" space for my C128 setup!
That's pretty much what has happened to me! I really wish I had more room...
@@AmigaLove Right? Heh, i just got to where i can have space for both Amiga 1000s setup at the same time, heh.
@@danjmcs It's so painful. I actually stress out over it. I have 4 setups at all times. (Currently A1K with Starboard or Parceiro, depending, C128D, A3K maxed out and Quadra 700, also maxed out). But in my greedy ideal world I'd also have a C64 station and either my Powerbook 500Mhz or a Win98 station. Or a stock A3K. But those 3 have to get rotated in and out. My Q700 is ever-present as is the A1K, and the other two "do the dance" every few months. But it kills me every time I have to do a swap. 1st world problems...
8 bit system
what a good game
Even if eob c64 was already discussed in other videos, your videos are so full of love for C= that they are unmissable
Giuseppe, you literally made my face blush and heart skip a beat. Thank you so much for the kind words. Made my day!
It's all true and deserved😃👍
Love the "They Live" alien on the right monitor.
It’s actually intended for sitting on a record player, and rotating. But I like to use him more like a desk caddy to keep my Douglas Adams close. :)
I couldn't click like fast enough. I have a 128 but because it's the original model it's a little too bulky, and I mostly just keep my C64 connected. But I do have a couple of 1351s and a 1581 for saves. Now that you have this exact setup, you should grab the C128 version of PETSCII Robots, which allows for the same dual monitor map feature. And then make another video because this was great.
Thanks, Pacbilly! Man I hope we start to see more and more C128 Love like this going forward. What a dream come true!
And thanks for the kind words. Damn.. left me a bit speechless.
Nice to see there is still so much love for these old retro systems. Amiga, C64, C128, Vic-20, Atari 8 bit, Atari 2600, Sinclair ZX Spectrum, you name it. There is new stuff coming out for these systems - software AND hardware! - on an almost weekly basis. Good times!
Couldn't agree more! Feels like a 2nd Golden Age of Commodore lately.
A new retrospective channel subscriber from Vantaa, Finland 🇫🇮 😺👍.
I still own the original Commodore 64 and
Amiga 500 computers and still play them 😺👍.
And Elvira😻❤️🌹 in 12:25... MEOW 😻💕💞!
Haha! Elvira is amazing. Welcome, Ari - thanks for being here!
@@AmigaLove No problem 😺👍🕹️.
For sure an absolutely amazing game and conversion. It will be the reason i take out my C128 soon after being dusty for a few years. Imagine this game came out in 1982 when the C64 was released? It would have been like a first time Mars landing.
Ive only played EOTB on the original A500 back in the day and it was a game everyone i knew with an Amiga played even if they were not fans of the genre.
100%. Realistically, a game of this size and magnitude wouldn't have ever seen the light of day back in the day. I think the CRT file alone is over 2MB. Most of Europe was running cassettes, and even here in the US my friends and I were all on floppy disks. That would have been a massive stack of disks, and the swapping? LOL
But... if someone had had the idea of burning the game to cartridge, with floppy disk backups and game loading? Holy crap. I would have begged my mom to get that cartridge, even if it did cost $200 back in the day (or more?). I wouldn't have gotten one, but I would have chased that dream for years until I snagged one. =D
@@AmigaLove Yes, true about the size of the cartridges. But what if they released every level on its own cart? Like how some developers release the endless DLC today? j/k
@@C64_and_Amiga_Memories lol!!!
Which CRT monitor would you suggest for a mixed setup (Amstrad CPC via SCART adapter cable and external PSU, C128DCR and Amiga 1200)?
I got a 1084S (with SCART RGB) for my Amiga 1000 and love it, but I need a second monitor for upstairs.
That's an interesting question. I don't live in SCART-land so I'm probably not the best person to ask. But it sounds like you have a very cool collection.
I'm spoiled: I typically have dedicated monitors for each computer setup. And I usually stick to CRTs that were paired with the machines from back in the day. My 1902A, which I use with the C128Dcr, was recapped and refurbished by a retired C= electrician this past year. So I use that a ton. My C64(s) get the 1702, my A1K et al get a 1080, etc. However my A3000 has an HDMI card in it, so I can pump that out to a 4:3 modern display.
I have been enjoying playing this on my C64 - but my plan is to migrate it over to my C128D to test and see if it migrates over flawlessly. I am using a Kung Fu Flash and so far it has worked great on the C64.
Shouldn't be a problem. If you're saving directly to the KFF (which someone else told me was working well) I think you're going to be good to go. The C128 upgrade is totally worth it - do the swap!
I have the U2+ and i would not be surprised if there wasnt a fix by the U2+ team soon. Ive had my U2+ for a number of years and from the beginning it couldnt load most .crt files. All that has changed now with heaps of new features.
I've been told there is a Uii+ core update one can use (that is not part of the Uii+ team's code base - I think?) that is available and fixes the 2Mhz issue. I've not investigated it yet, but trust the dev who created it. Soon...
“You’re going to lose most of your party, but who cares- there’s not a part 2”. 😂. Oh man, and I have grief if I lose a single Pikmin! Seriously, can’t wait to try this one!
Joe, you are going to LOVE it!!!
Nice setup.. I wish they more Commodore 128-specific games back in the day...
You and me both! Some folks have told me a recent game called PETSCII Robots also has dual screen support like this. Worth checking out!
Cool review. Looks Iike you have a Ramlink. Do you know if it works with a Ramlink and SuperCPU combo. Wondering about using a KungFu flash
Hi, James! I don't have a SuperCPU 128. I've never been able to source one. But I do indeed have a RAMlink. I only used the RAMlink's cartridge pass-through. The game doesn't like JiffyDOS, by the way, so I think CMD storage options are out - especially since this is a cartridge image. Someone told me the KungFu Flash worked for them. I'd read the KFF wasn't fully supported on NTSC machines, so I never went down that road.
I worked out that you can turn off a setting in the ultimate ii cartridge to make this work with it. Can't remember what it was off the top of my head
dam that game looks great
it IS great :) thanks for checking it out, Ohrom! So good to see you here brother
the devs did a great job. But for those who do not have a C128 or too afraid to dabble in the emulation setup, you can also get a similar experience with Grid Cartographer and Game Link. Works with a few RPG games, like Ishar, Might & Magic, Wizardy, Ultima and Eye of the Beholder: just search here for Grid Gamelink.
Thanks for the tip, Gerard. I've not personally heard of this - will have to check it out!
@@AmigaLove This is not a free tool. There might be a trial/demo version, but I have it as I use to create maps with this for different use. I wasn't convinced at first to shell out money, though on his Trello planboard it shows he also wanted to add Amiga support... so, this convinced me to support him. It has been very useful for some of these older games, especially those that do not have a mapping function.
There is alternative firmware for the Ultimate II+ which should let you run EotB with turbo enabled (and same for other .crt games which can use 2mhz, like Prince of Persia, SMB64, etc). Check the 'about' for my channel for the link.
Thanks, Bart! I will definitely check it out. And thanks for watching!
nice game
What kind of function does the red thingy on the desk have? What is it for?
The disk notcher? So I can Professionally cut out a hole the side and use the back side of a disk. DOUBLE your storage! ;)
Is it possible to get a .d64 image of this game and write it to real floppy disks using the Zoomfloppy? I would love to play it using my 1571 disk drives as I don't have a Kung-Fu Flash or an Ultimate II+ but I have a lots of 1571 drives.
No, the game is too large to fit on a floppy.
Manufacturer and part# for mouse micro switches?
I discuss the options here: www.amigalove.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2396
I chose the ones I'm using now based off 2 different brands I purchased from Mouser.
Oh, there's a commodore computer club in Seattle?
Yes indeedily do. I founded one about 5 years ago. There's another on the east side, too. SRCS
Mine is SEA-CCC and we meet once a month in the Fremont neighborhood.
Lets wait Dungeon Master remake on C64 :D
Holy crap that would be AMAZING!! Haha!
but can it run crysis?
\o/
woot!
Boyiiiieeeeee....!!
Is this game free?
100% free, yes. The hardware on the other hand ...