Pro torch on a cheap welder + wire pipe clamp/crimp tool
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
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In this episode we take a look at our cheap tig welder which has performed increadibly well over the last few years, now we are going to upgrade the torch to a wp-17F so we can use professional cups and lenses that can't be used on this model curently.
we are also taking a look at wire clamping/crimping and how to make a simple tool to do it and what makes it so effective.
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Find the same 200amp Tig welder here on Amazon:-
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Find the same torch accessories here (UK):
Adapter - amzn.to/2QMpgM1
Large lense - amzn.to/2FBUOO2
Pyrex lense - amzn.to/2NhflvL
Pyrex kit - amzn.to/2Nbp5Yj
Standard cups - amzn.to/36JVcWN
Find the same torch accessories here (USA):
Adapter - amzn.to/30bCiFH
Large lense - amzn.to/36NV6NO
Pyrex lense - amzn.to/35MVjiN
Standard cups - amzn.to/2tMZ6Q0
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Joshua, that's a nice tool you made. I converted my TIG to the WP-17F yesterday. I happened to have a kit with stainless steel automotive hose clamps that only have one lobe. I crimped the lobe tight, grabbed it from behind with my crimping tool (with the clamp and hose in the throat of the tool), and used the tool as an anvil to peen down the lobe while preventing it from loosening. Took about 3 minutes and it fit inside the handle no problem.
A cheap TIG is just what i was looking for, thanks.
I was pulling nails and my nail puller pliers wouldn't get close enough to the wood so I ground them down, now they also crimp up those hose clamps too.
Dude! Dont stop being creative and sharing your ideas. First the air flow mask now this. So helpfull! Searched youtube for your ideas. I ordered using your links for the mask. Waiting for the arival. Then im not gonna spend alot on a tig welding machine. Love that ure so practical. Thanks
Thank you. I've got plenty more coming soon when I get the time. Cheers J
Another cool video. Thank you for your "down to earth" approach.
This is exactly the video I needed have the same brand tig welder with the same issue of not being able to find replacement parts awsome work Thank you!
Thank you David. I'm glad it's helpful. Cheers J
interesting video
the plastic clips they use round pub beer gas lines would have worked a treat on that set up , but then look at the fun you would be missing out on
I'm always up for better solutions, thank you! cheers J
@Joshua....Good toolmaker as well as a good welder and blacksmith...very impressed! 👧👍
Thank you very much! cheers J
The exact same situation, trying to get an argon hose fitted inside the tig handle got me to make a clamptite clone. And honestly it does has its place in the toolbox.
Most of the comments are a bit harsh. How do you know you can’t weld until you try it? 👍👍👍
I was making replacing some air hose ends and used my PEX hose clamps, quick and easy.
Nice hose clip trick! That tool is similar to the C.V. Boot clip tensioning tool. Amazing that TIG's are that cheap these days! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! its been great, I did think to get a valved torch and bypass the solonoid valve so i can manually control the post flow of gas, it would be perfect then. j
Extremely usefull Thank you for sharing
Thank you. Cheers J
Scary technical! I can see your expertise, and other welders are probably saying, yeah! I get what you're doing and saving serious money. For the average mook (like me) I reckon this will be forever beyond us. I'm not critcising, I can see that experts can save money from this vid, I just think that a noob like me who tries to follow in your footsteps is a fool because he or she will flub it up because of lack of knowledge. I still enjoyed the tutorial because you are spreading your knowledge out to thise who can benefit from it, I just recognise that I am not knowledgeable enough to use it correctly.
I've made many failures to learn what I know, some dangerous and stupid mistakes.... but if i didnt ever try and have a go at these skills I wouldn't be sharing with you what I now know. You can do this... if you put the same amount of attempts and failures in to it. just remember videos like this don't show the hours of the boring stuff ;) J
@@joshuadelisle I completely get that! I really appreciate that you think that your youtube followers are worth showing the technique, your knowledge is priceless. I also know without a doubt that my own knowledge will never equal yours. Part because I just don't have the basic skills and part because I know I will never have the time to earn and learn those skills. I'll be happy just to get decent results with my basic stick welder, but I can see how more accomplished welders can use this tutorial to increase their own skills. I still say how good you are is scary!
@@Moondog-wc4vm If you continue to sell yourself short, you'll never move on from where you are. One of the first things my first real supervisor out of high school beat into my head was that if you stay in your comfort zone, you'll never grow. He drove me out of my comfort zone more times than I can remember in the 4 1/2 years before the company shut down; when I walked into the next job I was ahead of the game. Since then life has had it's ups and downs, but I've always tried to keep learning and growing. And for the most part, I've come out ahead because of it. Don't sell yourself short; you just might be surprised at what you actually can do. :-):-):-)
@@Moondog-wc4vm never say never or I can't. They don't exist. It is your decision not to try and that maybe for good reason but you CAN if you apply yourself. Skills don't require great intelligence, they require repetition, perseverance and analysis to improve upon. Everything else like equipment etc can be acquired over time and there is plenty to learn for free off the internet. Believe that you can in what ever you do and it will become possible to achieve it. All the very best. J
@@joshuadelisle I agree with what you say. I have always tried to live my life by that supposition that you can do whatever you set your mind to, but I have also always tried to set realistic goals. within my own personal frame of reference. The reason I say that I will never reach the same level Is because I have assessed my capabilities and limitations and factored in my available time and responsibilities. I'm a fair bit older than you, I have several disabilities to contend with. I've set myself the goals of learning the basics of blacksmithing, bladesmithing and simple fabricating over the next 2 years. I don't have a practical background in any of those skills to draw on so I need to start from scratch. I also have some other responsibilities to dependents that I can't let slide. If I can achieve my personal goals without shirking my other responsibilities I will feel that I have done as well as I possibly can, and will take great pride in that achievement. Taking all that into account, and factoring in the fact that I have never had a natural affinity for electrical engineering ( my maths ability is not strong and I'm also colourblind) I reckon that if in the end I can weld a decent strong bead I will be more than happy with the outcome. I applaud the knowledge that you have of the craft, but don't feel that the investment in time that I would need to equal your knowledge is an efficient use of the my time, considering my other responsibilities. Learning the skills is a hobby for me, not the basis of a career so I can't justify ignoring people who rely on me in order to increase my knowledge base. If I really tried hard and worked on nothing else for a few years, I'm sure I could make myself better than the average, but doing so doesn't actually improve anything for my dependents. It would make me proud of what I had learned, but wouldn't improve anyone's life, not even my own, in fact it would make me sad that I had ignored others just for my own satisfaction. I realise that the same is not true for most other people, only those few in my own particular situation. I really appreciate the fact that you do your best to be positive and encourage those of us who follow you on YT. It is he best attitude to have and could really make a difference in some peoples lives. I'm just pragmatic enough to understand that at my age, and with my limitations that I will never become an artist smith, or talented fabricator, not without letting other people down who depend on me as I am now. If I had taken this path in life as a young man, then I might have been the provider that my family needs, but I took a different journey to the same end and I'm satisfied that I did a good job. The welding and smihing can only ever be a pasttime for me, but I will be more than satisfied with whatever I am able to learn in the time left to me. Again, thanks for the encouragement and motivation,you can be sure I have taken your words to heart and will be doing my very best.
Welcome back ! Those wire clamps are awesome and you will be using them on most everything from now on. The tools are a tad pricey but they pay for themselves quickly if you consistently buy/use commercial clamps, AND..... no bulges from the screw mechanism or crimp nub as you've found. They can also be wrapped in tape or heat shrink much easier. Now I sound like a salesman. You're homemade tool cost nothing and does just as good of a job plus others will marvel at your ingenuity !
Be sure to use a quality wire with a high tensile strength.
Thank you! Cheers J
The wire from Steel Wire Armoured cable has served me well, but then so has baling/fencing wire.
You’re slightly unhinged which is an admirable quality. Thanks for this vid specifically- very useful.
Thank you Marc. Lots more coming soon. Cheers J
Joshua De Lisle I have a Primeweld ct520dp on the way. Supposed to be a really good “budget” machine. I’m hopeful the included “17 series” torch will take a gas saver lens, etc. but if not (or if I just don’t get along with the torch) I’m setting up for a CK Worldwide with this hack. So thanks again. Keep your fingers outta that cool power hammer and have a good one!
Joshua De Lisle ok 👌 got the welder. It is APPARENTLY able to take any 17 series consumables- I want to put a CK gas saver on there. That said, it’s... big. Somewhat. Not as bad as some but it’s not a CK 17. I don’t need to go crazy just want a 17f and I will be happy. The pedal is also not the greatest but it’s just needing a little love with some delrin washers to take some slop out and then I’m jazzed. I’m thinking about getting a second torch and using it for the sacrificial unit, so if I screw up I still have a runner.
It’s 114* here today. 🥵 I can probably weld on the sidewalk.
Thats brilliant!!
Thank you. Cheers J
Certainly subbing, not sure why I haven't seen more of your videos yet. But I'll be keeping an eye out for more. God bless.
Awesome thank you so much. Cheers J
great video - Thanks
Thank you for watching. Cheers J
A great teaching video as usual Joshua - brilliant.
Thank you so much for the encouragement! cheers J
Not sure how you haven’t got a shed load more subscribers?!
so busy on the next project I missed the premiere of my own video.....
Great save, nice job
@@mertonsilliker3686 thank you!
Another good vid sir😀entertaining and informative,keep them coming!
Thank you so much for watching and supporting! cheers J
Once you try a Pyrex stubby gas lens/cup, you will never go back to ceramic . They are that good! Excellent video the only one I’ve seen on this subject which has been on my mind for ages now because I want to adapt a CK superflex hose or just change out my torch’s handle to one of the CK style black knurled tubular things with a zip tied on switch. I’m really happy with my DC Hitbox TIG200P ( p stand for pulse I guess as it’s got a few pulse settings and they actually work a treat on thin metal )
Great video 👍🏽
My best guess is that the tool is a large (20 mm or so) punch that punches then flattens the distortion caused by punching. It's meant to be used on the power hammer. If that is what it is, it would benefit from a handle. Cheers!
Cheers Tim. It's actually a nail header but I ended up making a completely different type to make nails super quick. All in the latest video. All the very best. Cheers J
The link for the triger please. Thanks
OR you could turn up a small brass adapter to connect the smaller cheap Chinese hose end to the nice torch.
Keep it up God bless you Brother
Thank you. Bless you too. Cheers J
Right then! Now! What do you do if someone attacks you with a banana?? First you take the banana from your attacker, then you eat the banana, whereby rendering your attacker helpless! :-D
Ha ha!
Be very wary of the concealed banana!
nice video chief, the way i see it if your going to be welding on DC and not exceeding 150ish amps on the regular then there is no point of spending huge money on a tig, if you want to do Aluminium or prolonged DC welding then u need a good machine and a water cooler. other than that any machine will do as long as you keep it cool. heat is a killer of all tools.
Thank you, you're right there. Cheers J
Would it not have been simpler just to use your stick welding Leeds and a old-fashioned Tig torch flow meter setup? You can still use lift Arc, and bypass the gas solenoid which I found to be a little slow anyway. Just clamp your stinger are the power block and reverse your polarity
doese the welder have hf start or would the torch conversion still work on hf start, great channel loads of useful info
Hi. Thank you. Yes this one has HF. Cheers J
Hi Josh what make model is the Tig is it still working ok
Hi Joshua
So, what kind of arc starting process is on the tig?
Scratch? Lift?
I’m just trying to figure out what to look for when buying a tig or combo kit.
Cheers
Chris
This is a HF TIG (high frequency start) and is the only type I would recommend. lift and scratch come with many problems but HF won't let you down.
@@joshuadelisle
I’m want to buy a mig/tig/mma combo but I have an older Jason 180p which has Hf but I have never used it.
After watching your videos I’m wondering wether to get the old Jasic going and just buy a mig which is really what I need most for fabricating my own machinery.
Jasic still works fine on mma so should ? be ok in tig mode?.
You may not be familiar with the Jasic and that’s ok.
Problem is the more I research the more I’m drowning in mud.
Cheers J
@@chrisdaube5435 jasic are fine and is probably better than my one. The most important thing regarding TIG is the gas shielding and so I now have a quality CK superflex wp-17 torch with no.12 gas lense set up for most applications. I have two TIG machines one is DC only and I use it mainly for on-site use on steel only along with its MMA because it's small and light. In the workshop I now use my 250amp AC/DC TIG mostly because I can use a foot pedal control which makes it easier to use and can do aluminium too but it is very big and not practical for on site use. My MIG is 200amp rated but is only good for 6mm steel maximum and even struggles on 3mm in certain situations but I only needed it really for sheet steel. Anything structural I use MMA with 7018 electrodes which will do all thicknesses. If I'm doing high production I use my MIG but would consider getting a 350amp version if needed a lot for anything over 6mm. Tig I use for small aesthetic welds mainly in thin materials. Hope that helps.
@Joshua De Lisle hi Joshua the 7018 rods what mm do you tend to use 2.5mm 3mm or 4mm? Love all the vids thanks for them and your help. P.s how are you finding metal prices at the moment ?
WELL!!!! RATS!!! THIS is what's up with-- Alffun 17pcs welder TIG welding torch Collet Body nozzle kit Tungsten electrode for wp-17/18/26 TIG welding torch-- in my neck of the woods! Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock. Jeff must be pissed off at me again...
I'll look into that and find a link to one in stock. Cheers J
Can you tell me the details of the Tig welder please? Brand/model etc?
Should be a link in the description. Cheers J
If you twist plastic cable ties tails off with a pair of pliers held in tight and flush you'll be left with a smooth finish as in no razor edges. Oh, looks like you're making a nail jig now.
I really LIKE the wire Crimping tool you made I have seen similar crimps now and again but never the tool... Do you have any tips on creating the tool or am I going to have to keep rewatching that portion of your video till I can create some rough measurements. I also like your welder tool mod, I so far have not sprung for a tig due to the depressing price of good ones and crapola cheapies being a waste of dearly-won Lucre. I had thoughts of building a rectifier and gas system for my very old 220VAC Forney Farm/Ranch 180 amp welder that came supplied with tools and instructions to charge batteries, thaw pipes, solder, braze, 3000 F degree carbon arc torch as well as arc weld and a gage to determine welding rod diameter on the top... a copper wound oldie but a goodie that even advised you could operate it at half the ratings when one phase was out to your remote location. A Great old welder.
Nice! I love old machines, they're built to last. I have an oil filled 220amp beauty but she's too big for the tiny shed.... Regarding the tool, make sure the winding lever is shorter than the pointed part so as you wind it can make a full rotation. Other than that please feel free to raise the viewcount...
Didn't you Tig weld a horse head last year as I remember it looked great.
I Tig welded the Ram skull with the old torch. That torch had problems but the new one is far better. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Thank you, I did say in the next message. It's great to see the light in your eyes,
Понял вольфрамовые штучки к ним есть.. Не показал.. Как дела Джошуа
Helo!
Helllo! J
Картину, на стене покажешь. Этю море..
What is the tool for.... You can't find the stupid lug nut key socket, so you're going to carve your own.
No quite but good try! Cheers J
Ok rams head
While that’s a very good job on your part, most of the guys wanting to buy the cheapest welder won’t be capable of doing that. My experience is that those guys have no experience in fab. They’re almost always guys who are amateurs in every sense of the word. For them, It would be better to buy a used welder from a better manufacturer, and not have to fool around trying to fix something they don’t understand.
That's a fair point...cheers J
@@joshuadelisleHever mind the pesimists! It doesn't matter that beginners might not be able to use it, that's a nice piece of information you passed on!
@@MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc thank you! Cheers J
In some cases you may be correct, in many however, that's how people become fabricators. They have knowledge of mechanics and simple physics, but lack the funds to buy the big boy toys... Buy it cheap and make it better.
My experience in reading posts from people on You Tube who want to buy these really cheap devices is that they have NO experience whatsoever, and no knowledge of how the equipment works either. They’re told by somebody on You Tube with a channel, who themselves barely know what they’re doing, that after screwing around in their garage for a coup,e of months, that they’re ready to take on paying work.
I’m sorry, but just no. Anyone serious about this will find a place where they can spend a few hundred bucks and take at least a beginning course on welding, to see if it’s really for them. If people aren’t willing to take that step, then they should stay away from it other than to just mess around with it for themselves, doing nothing critical that people will stand on, or under, or rely on for support.
Looks like bailing wire to me
It is used as tie wire, annealed wire is probably the same stuff. Cheers J
Same stuff, different country.
Some bloke with a beard started the video and then...
The years are going faster...
Gyd,, cyd. zipacyd... Не хрена не понял..