Vevor model CJ210A 8x14" lathe ... 4 months after.

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  • čas přidán 24. 09. 2021

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  • @lenmajuskin
    @lenmajuskin Před 10 měsíci +47

    well it's a lathe czcams.com/users/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.

  • @rominhawk3949
    @rominhawk3949 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing about the machine and your experiences. Good presentation. Appreciated.

  • @rexmasters1541
    @rexmasters1541 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I am buying one now. Perfect for my little projects.

    • @kevinmullner4280
      @kevinmullner4280 Před 2 měsíci

      8 months later and now i´m gonna buy one. I looked around for one year and the cd-210v [same as the one presented here] is still the best option.
      What is your experience?

  • @wolw66
    @wolw66 Před 2 lety

    Thanks, I bought one of these after watching your video.
    I was undecided but you helped.

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety

      Glad you got one. I am pretty pleased with mine and I hope you enjoy just as much.

    • @diytypeofguy6502
      @diytypeofguy6502 Před 2 lety

      This better than the HarborFreight one?

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety

      @@diytypeofguy6502 same basic import lathe however it is larger for approx same price and metal gears. One thing tho, I started out with a HF 7x10. First one power supply failed, second one had bad bearings and 3rd one power supply again failed. I asked for a refund and they refused so I took the 4th lathe and sold it on Craigslist and bought a used Craftsman 8x16. Restored that and sold it for enough to get what's in my video. I have had no issues with the quality of this lathe.

    • @diytypeofguy6502
      @diytypeofguy6502 Před 2 lety

      @@masons320 the one in ur video is only 500 correct?

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +1

      @@diytypeofguy6502 It was listed as 700 including shipping but the lathe listed was a different model than what was shipped.. after lengthy negotiation with the seller I wound up paying 500.

  • @mythai9593
    @mythai9593 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks 👍. Been looking for a lathe and that name came up but i'd never heard of them.

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +4

      If you decide to order a Vevor lathe I would suggest you order thru Amazon. You may pay a little more but their buyer protection is worth it. Then go thru the lathe completely.. and photo or video any issues. Sellers on eBay will ignore or stall you where Amazon gets right on it.

  • @davekimbler2308
    @davekimbler2308 Před 2 lety +8

    All good to know things ! I also up graded my tail stock by adding a lever locking , new hand cranks ( I made them ) along with metal gears but went to collets instead of a 4 jaw chuck ! If you get a chance to use collets your going to put the 4 jaw away , that’s how good they are ! With a 8x16 you can use ER40 collets that go up to 1-1/4” . I made a steady rest and that’s a must for long pieces and a QCTP is a must have ! I’m in the process of making a new compound top with t-slots for better adjustability and more ridged . I use more HSS tools then carbides and am learning to make my tools to do different things . I’m far from being a machinist , I’m a hobbyist! Lol. My next purchase WILL be a mill for sure , I tried to make my lathe into a mill but no success because of the ridged factor ! Thank you for your input !

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +1

      I have an ER32 collet chuck for the lathe as my mill uses the same collets. I look forward to seeing your video. Sharing ideas helps everyone. Thank you.

    • @davekimbler2308
      @davekimbler2308 Před 2 lety

      @@masons320 nice to know that Klutch uses ER32 collets , most that I’ve looked at use R8 which I don’t have ! My neighbor has a Jet mill that she’s selling to me for a great price ! It’s a full size mill for $1,000 w/ all the tools ! It weighs about 1,000 lbs but if there’s a will there’s a way !

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +1

      @@davekimbler2308 the klutch uses r8 but I ordered an r8 to er32 adaptor.

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +1

      @@davekimbler2308 my hobby shop space is only 10'x16'.... I didn't have any more room for a set of r8 collets 😆

    • @davekimbler2308
      @davekimbler2308 Před 2 lety

      @@masons320 it’s not the size it’s the organization that matters! Lmao

  • @eriktorp-olsen1706
    @eriktorp-olsen1706 Před 2 lety +4

    Greetings from Norway. -I have a lathe made by the same manufacturer in China, -a CJ525.
    Mine weighs nearly three times as much as your lathe and has a 10 inch swing above the bed, no variable speed, only pulleys and belts.
    It needed some adjustments and the weakest point is the compound rest which I never use so I tightened the gib screws down.
    I can turn steel like it is butter, taking off some good sized chips with no chatter and reasonably nice surface finish.
    I believe these lathes are good value for the money you pay.

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +2

      I kind of wish I had belts/pulleys instead of variable speed. I think it is more reliable and it is what I learned on ( WW2 US Navy surplus).
      As far as this lathe I am satisfied with it. It can cut steel, as you say, like butter and more than enough power considering the motor is so small. I mostly use recycled carbide cutters that I resharpen. I get them from a business about 20 miles from where I live and the savings is well worth the short trip. I can get 10 indexable cutters for $1.00 USD.
      Small metal lathes have a cult following here and good used lathes bring a high price lately.
      Thanks for watching and keep making chips 😎

    • @eriktorp-olsen1706
      @eriktorp-olsen1706 Před 2 lety +3

      @@masons320 Apart from locking down the compoundslide gib screws, the greatest improvement was to get rid of the lathe stand and replacing it with a super solid wooden bench made from 2x4's and bolting the lathe to the bench top.

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +5

      @@eriktorp-olsen1706 mass is the key. I found a granite countertop section and glued it to my workbench that is attached to an exterior wall. Drilling the granite was a job in itself but it cut way down on vibration, noise and greatly improved finish.

    • @martinolesen9930
      @martinolesen9930 Před 9 měsíci

      Hi, do you have a link to where you bought the CJ525 lathe?

    • @eriktorp-olsen1706
      @eriktorp-olsen1706 Před 9 měsíci

      Moe&Co,-Bergen, Norway.
      Free freight to the whole of Norway.@@martinolesen9930

  • @tvogel1810
    @tvogel1810 Před 2 lety

    You helped me - thank you!

  • @MaxMakerChannel
    @MaxMakerChannel Před 2 lety

    Does your big carriage hand wheel have play back and forth? My one does. I can move the carriage back and forth 4-5mm. Not sure what would be stopping it.

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +1

      No because I adjusted it to take out the play. Simply remove the wheel and tighten it up. Also adjust the nut under the sliding part. Theses lathes usually need every moving part tweeked. They come assembled but not very well adjusted.

    • @MaxMakerChannel
      @MaxMakerChannel Před 2 lety

      @@masons320 But how does tightening up the wheel get rid of backlash? There are just spur gears riding on a rack and pinion right?

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +1

      @@MaxMakerChannel no. Best you take it apart and see how it is built and functions. Also there are many videos on how to do this. It's better you see how rather than me telling you how in these comments. It's a fairly easy thing to do.

    • @eriktorp-olsen1706
      @eriktorp-olsen1706 Před 2 lety +1

      @@masons320 Precisely,-mine needed every moving part to be adjusted too, but that's half the fun.

  • @stanburdick9708
    @stanburdick9708 Před rokem

    Just rvd a vevor 7x14 that was pretty lmpressive and must have gotten a good one cuzz i couldn't notice any flaws. What surprised me was it came with a spare belt !! So someone at vevor must have been thinking! Cuzz the last import I had the belts were impossible to find!!!😣anyway haven't yet ran it but am sure their will be some problems along the way, other wise am happy

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před rokem

      Good..glad you got a good one. So many have said they had issues with theirs. I sold mine because I scored a 100 year old lathe that was bigger and had money left over to get a 6x10 lathe from shop fox. Still having an issue with it not coming with a compound slide but I think I solved that with a very easy to make slide design that I may do a video about soon. Good luck and keep making chips.

  • @BL-tr2ug
    @BL-tr2ug Před 2 lety

    TT, ....A great video. It's info like this that helps others. I've a machine from the same company, but it seems to be a dud. I'm going to try to project it back to life and I have ordered some parts for it. I'm not a pro but I would be grateful if somebody here or TT would message me about a forum or even contact info so I can speak with people who have these specific machines and what they did to improve them.
    Thanks in advance.

  • @mrrgstuff
    @mrrgstuff Před 2 lety +2

    Sounds like a great price for the lathe 😀👍

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah. Glad I got it before all this inflation started.

  • @bill4639
    @bill4639 Před 2 lety +1

    Some important questions that I think we would all appreciate being answered are 1) how big a piece of steel will it cut? 2) are the drive gears made out of steel? 3) Could you put a more powerful motor on it?

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +4

      Extreme center to center this lathe indeed has 8"x14" capacity. Actual real word use of the machine with a 3 or 4 jaw chuck and tailstock mounted drill chuck with a standard jobber length drill bit does restrict the workpiece size to about 6" length but that is an extreme example. Use of dead center increases the capacity to about 10" +/-.
      The drive gears are indeed steel but of what grade and strength I have no idea. I would hope they are hardened gears but have not checked as 95 percent of my work is done freehand so I seldom use the carriage screw.
      As far as a stronger motor, allready replaced 350W motor with a 600W motor I had on hand. There are several offerings from sellers that have different motors and indeed brushless vs brushed motors. It all depends upon your budget and how much you may use the machine.
      I hope this helps and thanks for watching my video.

    • @bill4639
      @bill4639 Před 2 lety

      @@masons320 thank you sincerely sir 🎩

  • @orange12v
    @orange12v Před 2 lety +3

    I got a second-hand 8x16 the guy I got it from only machined plastic so it's had no stress or wear

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +4

      Lucky. It's hard to find any decent metal lathe of any size at a good price. You did well.. just be sure it is vegan and cruelty free 😆

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +3

      Just kidding... About the vegan and cruelty free lol 😂

  • @davekimbler2308
    @davekimbler2308 Před 2 lety +2

    P.S. I will post a video on my channel about my upgrades @ Dave Kimbler in about a week !

  • @kenshelhamer9816
    @kenshelhamer9816 Před 2 lety +2

    Wondering if the lathe bed is the same as the 7" swing mini lathes?

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety

      Seems to be the same. The head is just a bit taller.

  • @firstlight4165
    @firstlight4165 Před 2 lety +1

    Appreciate you take on this unit. What is the max through bore diameter?

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety

      Without going out to my shop I am thinking it's about 7/8"

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +2

      Looked up the specs online. 0.8 inch bore... I was close.

  • @richierobinson8645
    @richierobinson8645 Před 2 lety

    You got lucky I had my vevor lathe for less then a month when the control board went out got the new board yesterday and luck have it the digital speed screen went out the same day. Does anyone know where I could get a new one

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety

      Check the connection ().... possibly a digital display can be purchased elsewhere ( Amazon, Ebay ) and with hopefully minor modification it would work

  • @skezburah
    @skezburah Před 2 měsíci

    This model has the electric switch at the front to reverse the lead screw....how do the other vevor ones work they don't appear to have the switch

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 měsíci

      Sorry, can't answe6 that one

  • @jimmyhuffman6802
    @jimmyhuffman6802 Před rokem +3

    These frigging things are like used cars, you don't know what your getting until it's to late, and then you're stuck with it. I don't know what to tell people except if you buy these lathes expect to drop money into a bottomless pit.

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před rokem

      Yeah. I got rid of mine and went with a 1920's metal lathe for my shop up north and a Shop Fox for my hobby shop down south. So far much happier with either of these than the Chinese lathe. Thanks for viewing and your comment.

  • @safteydoode7824
    @safteydoode7824 Před 2 měsíci

    Did you check your spindle run out on the ID? Chuck removed, of course. Those bearings sound beat

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 měsíci

      Of course I did. I eventually got rid of it and actually made a profit on it due to Bidenomics. I then made my own lathe which worked just as well.

    • @safteydoode7824
      @safteydoode7824 Před 2 měsíci

      @masons320 I bet, that little vevor needed some work.

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 měsíci

      Let's just say I worked on it enough to be able to build a metal lathe from scratch

  • @LSpower7.0
    @LSpower7.0 Před 2 lety

    accuracy cost money im a machine tool fitter that means i recondition and do call outs to repair anything from Chinese machine tools all the way up to hand scraping white metal bearings in huge generators or a full cnc machine center, I've been called out to so many Chinese lathes usually about 1 to 1.5m between centers with geared head most i find the gearbox gear shafts are made out of the softest steel so they flex when under load and bang a couple of teeth are chewed off no biggy but it will cost them $800 before ive left the shop, by the time i see the damage people just sell them off cheap and buy a new one, i guess if your going to use them in an industrial setting pay the money and buy a good old english one which last 30 - 40 years before they need to see me, they certainly can be fixed by useing stronger shafts even boring out the gears and putting in larger shafts, cluches in them (larger machines) are the same deal especially on a variable motor, when you 1st get them the headstock and tail stocks are always out by any thing to 10 thou beds are usually heat treated and haft to be reground but if you by a $10k lathe making it anywhere near an english lathe can cost upwards of $15k to get to the stanadred of 1/2 thou in a foot or less, little lathes like this one are good for small jobs if i purchased one i would go through it to cut out the chatter aline the head and tail stock and rescrape in the saddle to the bed running a taper is not an option

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +3

      While what you say is all well and good remember these lathes are for hobby use. We don't expect them to be a Logan or Southbend and with the prices on questionable used machines of that type becoming increasingly out of range for most of us we get what we can. Personally I don't have the budget or room for something like a heavy 10 SB. There are other priorities in my life and actually after fine tuning this lathe it does what it does. Again.. Hobby. I don't make parts for others as my living.
      This small group of hobby machinists learns a lot from these little chinese machines and some move on to get better like you suggest. However many don't have the money or time nor desire to carry it further. No the machines are not high quality. Yes they need tweeking or even major work to give better results.. but again... It's a Hobby.

  • @anthonyflores9846
    @anthonyflores9846 Před 4 měsíci

    Where did you get the hand wheels?

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 4 měsíci

      I made them on the same lathe

  • @cwboxguitars
    @cwboxguitars Před rokem

    Is your tool post an AXA or OXA?

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před rokem

      Axa size. The tool holders came from one of those cheap aluminum tool posts and so I made a steel post the same size.

  • @notwrkn2mch
    @notwrkn2mch Před 2 lety +1

    Will this also thread American threads or just metric?

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +2

      It can do both

    • @notwrkn2mch
      @notwrkn2mch Před 2 lety +2

      @@masons320 Thanks for the quick reply it's been a big help for a newcomer to a lathe.....

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +2

      @@notwrkn2mch lots of good videos about lathes and mills on youtube. I have had 6 different vintage lathes ( I like to restore them) and 2 Chinese lathes. So far this on is much better than the cheaper lathes like the Harbor Freight type metal lathes.

    • @notwrkn2mch
      @notwrkn2mch Před 2 lety +1

      @@masons320 I've been investigating this lathe and have not seen a reference yet but do you know if it has the better tapered roller bearings or the less expensive ball bearings on the main shaft.
      Been turning wrenches all my life and got pretty good at it but never had a lathe and i could do so much more with a lathe to make parts...

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +1

      @@notwrkn2mch It has the cheaper ball bearings, possibly deep groove. I immediately ordered angular contact bearings so that they are "at the ready'

  • @edcammarata6430
    @edcammarata6430 Před 2 lety +1

    Be prepared for many hrs of
    Cleaning, and goes ever said VEVOR sucks , they do, they don't even put on serial numbers on any of ther e
    Equipment. I got one one these 8 e is no #14 just recently, you have to put a lot of work in them to fix up
    There is no pay attention to
    Detail here and nobody looks
    At lease befor they go out the door. So beware. Put if you pour lots of love in them
    They can do a decent job

  • @jonathannovak5961
    @jonathannovak5961 Před 2 lety +2

    So what kind of tolerances can you hold? +/-.001 or better?

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +2

      I just finished making a sine plate and the pivot or hinge cylinder needed to have the pivot pins accurate for a proper action. Part of tolerance accuracy is the machine and part is the operator of that machine. After turning the part in the center and drilling/ reaming the two end pieces I can happily report that yes with this lathe I can get results that are +/- .001 accuracy. It did however require "tweeking" this lathe to get that result.

  • @larrymacdonald4241
    @larrymacdonald4241 Před 2 lety +1

    Vevor sucks, my machine arrived broken and they are refusing to refund/replace, the tail stock bolt broke during shipping and it damaged the bed during shipping....

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +2

      I hope you bought it thru Amazon or used PayPal. They will correct the situation. If not make a claim to the shipping co... FedEx is slow but will correct it. Now ya know why my first video was complaining about who I got mine from. Not broken just not what they showed in the offer.

  • @karlbuschtoolmaker
    @karlbuschtoolmaker Před 2 lety +1

    Your cross slide spindle is bent

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety +1

      Cross slide spindle? Do you mean the Screw that moves it or the tool post stud. Never heard of a cross slide spindle

    • @karlbuschtoolmaker
      @karlbuschtoolmaker Před 2 lety +1

      @@masons320 yes the handwheel that moves the tool bit to take a cut or face your work piece

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety

      @@karlbuschtoolmaker no the screw is not bent. The handwheel is slightly out of round because my chuck was not centered yet. See my vid on truing up the chuck without grinding the chuck jaws. That cheap chuck was way off when I got it but the hand wheel out of round is not that big a deal.. I can just make a new one now that my chuck is centered.

    • @karlbuschtoolmaker
      @karlbuschtoolmaker Před 2 lety

      @@masons320 OK I see what you mean ,if you put the handwheel on a mandrel then remachine it straight will save you from making a new one

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety

      @@karlbuschtoolmaker yep that works too... Slightly smaller is all.

  • @DClarke1954
    @DClarke1954 Před 2 lety

    Hi TT, yours is a big-brother to my 8 x 14 as it has the wider spindle-bore but in most other respects appears to be the same 8 x 14 frame etc.
    Mine has a 600W brushed motor but in operation the lathe sounds a lot quieter than yours. Even when you are not actually cutting, your lathe is a bit noisy?
    I do most of my turning by hand so I have the gear-train in Neutral so only the main spindle is turning, this makes a big difference to the noise-levels.
    Is your drive belt the clear nylon one and is it mega-tight? Best wishes, Dan.
    My machiine running can be heard here : czcams.com/video/oEdUMib57p4/video.html

    • @masons320
      @masons320  Před 2 lety

      It's the d#mn speed range change gear. I am now using a 600 w motor from another lathe ( that I had a treadmill motor on it ) and it's original controller... Put the gear in neutral and it it whisper quiet also. Great minds think alike yes?