Import Lathe Buying Guide

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  • čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
  • This episode on Blondihacks.com, I help you pick out that Asian import lathe you've always wanted! Exclusive videos, drawings, models & plans available on Patreon!
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Komentáře • 860

  • @PanamaSticks
    @PanamaSticks Před 2 lety +142

    As an engineering technician with 40 years experience in manufacturing, 23 of them also machining prototypes, tooling, fixtures, etc. I have to say this is one of the best presentations I have ever seen on lathes. Thank you..

  • @JorgeStolfi
    @JorgeStolfi Před 4 lety +381

    If you are a real hobbyist, the rule is: check what your budget is, spend twice as much on the basic machine, then spend twice as much again on accessories and material.

    • @Blondihacks
      @Blondihacks  Před 4 lety +53

      😂🤣 True.

    • @hilltopmachineworks2131
      @hilltopmachineworks2131 Před 4 lety +9

      Yep buy the biggest you can afford. With that comes more horsepower and more machine weight for rigidity.

    • @ilikeoranges4
      @ilikeoranges4 Před 4 lety +24

      What I would say is that it doesn’t matter as much what the price of the machine is because be prepared to spend several times that on tooling. Don’t budget for the machine. Budget for THE TOOLS! Every machinists, hobbyists or professional, has learned this lesson the hard way.

    • @John_Ridley
      @John_Ridley Před 4 lety +28

      @@ilikeoranges4 Yeah but you can add tools forever. You only generally buy the lathe once. It's a lot harder to find out that you really need a bigger/better lathe and address that than it is to buy another couple of endmills.

    • @jemijona
      @jemijona Před 4 lety +8

      I virtually did this. I was hoping for around $1200 but ended up spending $2488 delivered. Luckily it is coming with a mix of tooling but I will have to get the wallet out again if the tooling isn't up to scratch.

  • @patrickhgeorge6009
    @patrickhgeorge6009 Před 2 lety +20

    Blondi is exactly who American children need in these tough times. Some of us have to settle on cloned Asian lathes. It’s just a real shame we can’t get a few 100,000 clones of Blondi. Then our children could build and sell high quality inexpensive lathes right here in America. 40+ yrs experience with equipment and my learning experience with Blondi was “AWSOME”. Never have been much of a gusher so I apologize for it.

  • @okarakoo
    @okarakoo Před 4 lety +146

    I said it already, but here it is again: you are a natural born educator

  • @jwilsonmusic434
    @jwilsonmusic434 Před 3 lety +48

    I am a machinist, researching machines for a hobby shop. I like to think I know what I'm doing, but you pointed out things that I honestly had not thought about. I am amazed with your knowledge, and skills. I am very glad I found your channel!

  • @agri-lifeorganicfarm2466
    @agri-lifeorganicfarm2466 Před 3 lety +57

    I'm retired and watch a lot of educational videos and this is a Great video. No Bla Bla Bla. Blondi gets to the point with lots of good information. Good job Blondi!

    • @old_guard2431
      @old_guard2431 Před rokem +1

      Anybody who can talk that fast and remain both organized and comprehensible. . .

  • @johnoconnor5581
    @johnoconnor5581 Před 3 lety +34

    I had not run a machine lathe since a college class 45 years ago but wanted to acquire one to have fun with as my retirement approached. I spent 8 months trying to understand the features and pros and cons of everything from new import mini lathes to 80 year old American iron. Older small American made lathes (South Bend, Atlas, Logan) in the under $2000 price range were hard to find (at least here in Texas), were often times located 300 miles from my home, and if in decent condition and priced fairly, they usually sold within 24 hours. In addition, often times the footprint was quite large depending on the motor/belt setup, and you always run the risk that the lathe you just bought and hauled home is essentially worn out. I wish I had seen your video when I was researching before I bought my lathe, but I guess the fact that I ultimately bought a Precision Matthews 1022 like you own proves once again that “God takes care of little kids and idiots”(me). Your videos are very well done and are a great contribution to the community. Thank you

  • @radardoug
    @radardoug Před 4 lety +10

    I bought a Precision Mathews PM-1236 and have been extremely happy with it. I went that large to get the features you just described (D1-4 cam lock spindle, separate power feed shaft, nice headstock gearbox, etc). I also upgraded to a quick change tool post and DRO. I didn't go for a model with a coolant pump and instead set up a Noga coolant mister using an empty Jack Daniels bottle as a coolant reservoir. I couldn't find an empty Jack Daniels bottle so I had to construct one from a full Jack Daniels bottle.

    • @jhbonarius
      @jhbonarius Před 4 lety

      Looks nice! But you have to do some serious work for that budget. My wife would move back to her parents if I spend such an amount of our savings on my hobby...

    • @CraigLYoung
      @CraigLYoung Před 4 lety

      Jochem Bonarius : Don't buy Tennessee Swill Water. You can save a lot of money buy buying good Kentucky Bourbon. I recommend "Kentucky gentleman" or" Kentucky Inn."

    • @radardoug
      @radardoug Před 4 lety

      It's crappy but if you breathe enough of the fumes you won't care.

  • @nickrandol9133
    @nickrandol9133 Před 4 lety +131

    I’ve watched a TON of videos like this, and you, Madam, know a lot more than most. Very good, very informative vid. Keep it up!

  • @tinkmarshino
    @tinkmarshino Před 4 lety +11

    Damn! this was the best video I have ever seen on lathes.. I have always wanted one but never got around to gettin it.. now at 67 years of age I am about to jump in and play and need all the GOOD information I can find.. This was superlative! I have to go and watch more of your videos.. I am glad I stumbled onto your site.. not only are you very knowledgeable but are very good at teaching.. thanks very much.... carry on, be safe and have fun doing it..

    • @Blondihacks
      @Blondihacks  Před 4 lety

      Thank you very much for the kind words! Glad I could help!

  • @christopherswainson371
    @christopherswainson371 Před 3 lety +89

    BH you are a naturally brilliant teacher, with lovely clear and enlightening explanations. Thank you.

    • @rajwantmankoo1484
      @rajwantmankoo1484 Před 3 lety +1

      I ordered my Proxxon PD 400 lathe today & will be delivered in Calgary on March 30th 2021 from Hobbyland Italy. I tried to copy this guy so i can put my own video with my new lathe but i could not even make 5% of this guy.

  • @JMMC1005
    @JMMC1005 Před rokem +13

    I recently gained access to a small machine shop, but one where it's all 'self taught ' engineers using the tools for quick rework and jigs. I was looking for some good resources to get the basics of machining into my head, and your videos have been excellent. Clear and concise, yet detailed where it matters.

  • @Shazzzam74
    @Shazzzam74 Před 4 lety +81

    Ok, never heard so much useful information on Asian lathes or just lathe in general. Had no choice but to SUB! Thanks!

    • @Blondihacks
      @Blondihacks  Před 4 lety +4

      Thanks for the sub! 😁

    • @PatrickKQ4HBD
      @PatrickKQ4HBD Před 4 lety +5

      Same here, plus the Tony references!

    • @lenroddis5933
      @lenroddis5933 Před 4 lety +12

      Only just found this lady who is way ahead of most. She's a joy to listen to, clearly understands what she's talking about and addresses the really important issues.

    • @richardmeyer418
      @richardmeyer418 Před 4 lety +2

      Yep, it's really amazing how that works - no sarcasm.

    • @wraith8117
      @wraith8117 Před 3 lety +2

      Same here i jist found this channel and immediately subbed

  • @paulngopal
    @paulngopal Před 2 lety +2

    The First Rule of Asian Club: Don't talk about Asian Club.... The Second Rule of Asian Club: You Subscribe to this Channel! Great job Blondihacks!

  • @tomcook5813
    @tomcook5813 Před 3 lety +6

    I just stumbled across your channel. I am autistic high function and have a shop full of nice old machines, but lately the world events have scared me into the house and I haven't been in the shop for a couple months. Today that changed with this video, it motivated me to get out to the shop. thank you!

    • @Blondihacks
      @Blondihacks  Před 3 lety +2

      That’s great! Glad I could help in these difficult times.

  • @richardoleson7934
    @richardoleson7934 Před 4 lety +88

    Wow! What a lucid, well thought out and presented exposition on a complicated and nuanced topic. Your expertise is greatly appreciated. Thank you!

  • @martinpanev6651
    @martinpanev6651 Před 4 lety +3

    I came to this channel to learn how to use my mill and now I have a goddamn lathe in my living room!?!? Amazing! :D Definitely earned a sub...

  • @FranLab
    @FranLab Před 4 lety +87

    I love my 3rd-hand 80's era anonymous Asian made (probably Taiwan) benchtop lathe. Small, but overbuilt and well powered.

    • @Justforfun-ek7et
      @Justforfun-ek7et Před 3 lety +2

      Cant find anything these days, or shall I say days of COVID.

    • @sunrevolver
      @sunrevolver Před 3 lety +1

      I missed stuff from the 80s.. It's more often than not will be an overbuilt..

    • @anthonyortiz7924
      @anthonyortiz7924 Před 2 lety +1

      Nothing beats a 3rd-hand 80's anonymous Asian made 1.5hp benchtop lathe with a flattened aluminum pan underneath!

  • @bobridge5271
    @bobridge5271 Před 3 lety +6

    Blondihacks, you are fantastic ! I really appreciate the discussion regarding metric versus imperial. The British still use imperial, so not just the US Americans. Ditto your brilliant discussion regarding AC versus DC motor, lead screw, etc. I learnt a lot in just half an hour. A big thumbs up and thank you from a Brit/Ozzie expat. in Japan (all metric).

  • @EcoMouseChannel
    @EcoMouseChannel Před 4 lety +13

    Took me a long, long time of self educating myself on the lathe features I wanted and how much I could realistically spend. I really, really wanted a Precision Matthews brand, for many of the reasons mentioned in the video. But there's a bit of a premium price they are tacking on, because they are shouldering the cost of import and specing the machines to their standards etc. So, I opted to buy my lathe directly from a high quality factory in China and import it myself. I got to pick the features and added accessories and was less than HALF the price, even with freight costs!! What I was looking for size wise, was larger than a 10x22 machine, but not quite the footprint of a 12x36. So I ended up going with the exact same lathe as the PM-1228VF-LB (but I only paid $1920 with all the bells and whistles, and a bunch of upgrade accessories)
    HOWEVER... what they don't tell you is how much more you will spend at the port for taxes, fees, duties, transportation from the dock to a temporary storage facility, all before it gets on a truck to your door. When it was all said and done, I literally spent MORE on those costs than the actual lathe machine itself. If I were bringing over a container full of them, those costs would have still been about the same as they are for just one. Keep in mind, my lathe rode across the ocean in one container by itself. So, realistically I should have filled it up and sold them on eBay or whatever. (Which is what a lot of those machines you find for cheap are... but they aren't spec'd the way you want them exactly)
    So lesson learned, I should have just saved up longer and bought from an established importer like a Precision Matthews in the first place.

    • @drhender6943
      @drhender6943 Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah, and because you didn't buy from PM, you don't have an American company you can email or call and get support of a replacement part or whatever. A close friend bought a PM lathe and mill last year and is very happy with both the purchase and the service after the sale. He's not an easy guy to please, but he sings high praises for Matthew and his crew. When I buy, I'll spend the xtra money and buy Precision Matthews.

    • @taiwanluthiers
      @taiwanluthiers Před 2 lety

      By the way, I had a PM-1228VF-LB.
      Keep in mind unlike the lathe shown in this video the PM1228 does NOT allow you to reverse feed direction on the gearbox! You must loosen a gear on the back where the gears are, then engage them to the opposite side in order to change feed direction. It's a bit of a pain...
      Now I have a Victor lathe, you can switch feed direction on the gearbox but you must turn the spindle off before doing this, or you will grind the gears.

    • @BinaryBlueBull
      @BinaryBlueBull Před 16 dny

      I know this is an old comment, so my apologies for only now commenting but I really need to ask: Could you point me to the factory you got your lathe from? I'll keep the part about additional costs in mind. I'm in Europe so Precision Matthews will likely mean additional costs as well

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 Před 4 lety +6

    Thank you Quinn for all the time and wisdom you've put into this 😀

  • @Peter57808
    @Peter57808 Před 2 lety

    A machinist that knows DC motor fundamentals!
    That is very refreshing!

  • @GaryT1952
    @GaryT1952 Před 4 lety +13

    Well explained Quinn. Thanks for sharing your knowledge in a very entertaining and interesting manner.

  • @dr.lareme7737
    @dr.lareme7737 Před 4 lety +1

    I like Chinese lathes and mills. They have made me an expert in quality control. I've learned to re-manufacturer out of spec parts, re-align gear trains, replace bearings not seated properly, scrape dove tails, ect. I now fully understand the meaning of the word rigidity, something these machines don't offer new.

  • @gregoryharris6834
    @gregoryharris6834 Před 3 lety +16

    Wonderful explanation of imported lathes! Wish I had found your channel and this video before I bought my Grizzly G0602 secondhand. Still happy with my purchase but now I'm so much more educated about the basics. Thank you.

  • @cyclebuff782
    @cyclebuff782 Před 4 lety +6

    This was amazing. I'm currently in the middle of this exact cost-benefit analysis decision. You answered several questions I didn't know I had! Thank you!

  • @mattmcclure490
    @mattmcclure490 Před 4 lety +9

    If you’re diligent and look on Craigslist, marketplace, and local auctions you can find nice American ,British , and import lathes that are much larger and more capable. I found a clausing colchester 13x40 in excellent for $2500 after looking and being patient for about 6 months. I looked at 6 lathes that were too worn out or not priced right before I found this one. Always be willing to walk away from a machine that shows obvious signs of wear or abuse.

    • @jlucasound
      @jlucasound Před 4 lety

      Amen, Matt! If you doubt anything at all, about a machine tool you're looking to buy, walk away. When the seller starts throwing a lower price at you, walk faster.

    • @mikescottdana
      @mikescottdana Před 4 lety

      Agree, although space, weight, power, etc can be a factor. We bought a PM-1127VF-LB a few years ago for our model shop at work. Would have loved to get something like a HLV-H, but we’re on the 4th floor of an office building.

    • @satibel
      @satibel Před 4 lety

      Don't forget to haggle, cut the price in half then go up from here.

    • @andrewculverhouse8914
      @andrewculverhouse8914 Před 4 lety

      If you buy a seccond hand one I'd almost suggest getting one that is tatty, fresh pain hides some real issues if bought seccond hand sold as seen. Also make sure you see it running. My first purchase was scrap nicely painted, my current one was tatty as can be but actually mechanically sound.

    • @mattmcclure490
      @mattmcclure490 Před 4 lety +1

      Andrew Culverhouse exactly. Mine is still factory paint and not much of it but you can see the imperfections. A fresh coat of paint hides a ton of problems and you never know if the guy who took it apart put everything back together properly

  • @GoalOrientedLifting
    @GoalOrientedLifting Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for this video. Going through small, but important, topics and parts was extremely usefully and informative. You've got yourself a new subscriber.

  • @prodoverjeff2876
    @prodoverjeff2876 Před 4 lety +6

    After a lifetime of using imperial measures, I found myself in a shop primarily serving to automotive customers. Our engineers typicly convert metric to imperial, the prints at my machines were imperial to run on a metric machine. So, either cry and complain or get the calculator out and convert. The other day, a young new guy asked me what tools he should be buying, rangewise. My smaller allen arenches are not marked, so I guickly grabbed a mic, measured the small one, grabbed the calculator and started to convert when the newbie told me "Just push the button on the mic!" So newbie taught the old timer! Of course the old timer felt better telling him the 1.48 measurement is actually a 1.5 MM wrench, so I still look like a useful tool.

    • @scotty362100
      @scotty362100 Před 4 lety

      And yet it never dawned on you there was more than ONE button staring you in the face, clearly marked as to their function...lmao, sounds like a "story" to me, just saying.

    • @phillhuddleston9445
      @phillhuddleston9445 Před 4 lety +3

      Then his battery fails and you have to show him how to use a real mic.

    • @mattsadventureswithart5764
      @mattsadventureswithart5764 Před 4 lety

      @@phillhuddleston9445 *** Really old.
      Both old and modern are real...

    • @phillhuddleston9445
      @phillhuddleston9445 Před 4 lety +1

      @@mattsadventureswithart5764 Most micrometers made today are not digital ones. The vast majority of machinists today still use a standard micrometer and even dial calipers over digital ones. If you know how to use a mic and calipers correctly there is no advantage to digital ones that can easily malfunction and require batteries unlike conventional non-digital measuring tools. The only advantage digital calipers have over dial calipers is that dial ones can skip a tooth if a chip gets in the rack and pinion but this is easily correctable and usually avoidable. When digital ones fail you throw them away if it isn't battery related.

    • @mattsadventureswithart5764
      @mattsadventureswithart5764 Před 4 lety

      @@phillhuddleston9445 the standard micrometer is not the modern one, no matter how common its usage. Hence my use of the words "old" and "modern".
      I can use either modern or old and both mine are definitely old.

  • @Ga18bo03
    @Ga18bo03 Před 3 lety +6

    Hard to put into words how grateful I am for your content

  • @ukulelebob7412
    @ukulelebob7412 Před 4 lety +3

    Thank you! I needed to watch this, as I'm preparing to buy my first lathe. In fact, I will be watching this a few more times. There's a lot to consider.

  • @raybilyeu1594
    @raybilyeu1594 Před 4 lety +6

    First time have watched blondi very well spoken and intelligent thank you

  • @ThomasBurns
    @ThomasBurns Před rokem

    Thanks so much for this break-down. It really helps simplify things for those of us wanting to level up with a lathe in our workshop!

  • @randallscott4094
    @randallscott4094 Před 13 dny

    Your Getting Started & Import Lathe Buying Guide videos immediately answered my questions regarding investment considerations for a beginner. Thank you very much. I guess if you want to work on hard steel (like automotive parts), you need to plan on spending quite a lot and be prepared for the space and machine weight. Makes you really think long and hard about what kind of projects you want to get involved with on a part time basis - hobby? I'm not sure. What got me researching this, is a desire to restore the Differential Axel Carrier from a 58 Chevy Apache Pickup where I threw the bearings. Needs metal build up, then lathed for the bearings. Local machine shops think welding the build up before lathing would cause heat problems. Instead, I'm going to try some super metal epoxy paste to build up the bearing worn spots on the Carrier, then pursue a lathe. Not ready to buy one yet, so I'll hope I get lucky with local machine shops after I apply the Loctite Super Metal epoxy paste. Keep up your great videos. I have subscribed and enjoy watching them. Incidentally, I think I have an O'scope just like yours. Best regards.

  • @johntucker803
    @johntucker803 Před 2 lety +4

    What an excellent review on what to actually look and think about when buying a smaller lathe! Thank you so much for producing such a quality video. After 2 days of watching what others called "review/purchase" videos this was refreshing to say the least! Subscribed!

  • @freeidaho-videos
    @freeidaho-videos Před 3 lety

    Great Video. I am glad I found your channel. Subscribed! You make some really good points about size, metric, brushless motors, etc. Your explanations are the easiest to follow. Nicely done!
    Thank you!

  • @douglascampbell9809
    @douglascampbell9809 Před 4 lety +10

    Between you, AvE, and Bigclive I actually understood all of this.
    I was a celulose necromancer when I could work. (furniture maker)
    The factory I was in was ground zero for the Metric vs Imperial war. Everything we did was in both from the blueprints in metric to the hardware in Imperial. Nothing was standardized.

  • @wayneknodel3347
    @wayneknodel3347 Před 3 lety +5

    Absolutely great video, I have not seen a more concise, clear, and professionally presented narration, by an obvious expert. I decided to subscribe almost immediately after starting to view it. Thanks for your expertise!

  • @sampreechar5368
    @sampreechar5368 Před 4 lety +1

    thank you, thank you. I can't say enough good things about your clear, concise, explicit VDOs. Two thumbs up and my hats off to you. Keep producing quality VDO.

  • @curtiswest4272
    @curtiswest4272 Před 3 lety +1

    I have to say this is a quality video. Your knowledge of the subject matter and your communication skills are top shelf. Thanks.

  • @francescozambuto1713
    @francescozambuto1713 Před rokem +1

    What a great site, I have to express my sincere gratitude for all the work you have done and for sharing it with us I plan to see more of you. When compared to others your getting down to the real deal. Thank you so much and please have a safe and happy holiday season.

  • @trackie1957
    @trackie1957 Před 3 lety +1

    One thing about inexpensive lathes is that you can expect the machine itself to become a hobby as you spend time putting in the fine handwork needed to make it pleasant to live with. For a hobbyist, it can be a satisfying journey. I learned how to scrape ways on my Grizzly 7 x 14, made better cross slide and compound knobs, made quick clamp for the tail stock, added clamps for the ways. In the end it was much more rigid and smooth, but it was still a cheap 7 x 14...

  • @bostedtap8399
    @bostedtap8399 Před 4 lety +2

    Hi Quinn, excellent, clear and informative guide, perfect for the new hobby lathe user, second hand are a good alternative to learn on and improve your requirements for a machine tool.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @myphone7568
    @myphone7568 Před 2 lety

    If I wasn't already married, your explanation of imperial vs metric would have made me propose! What a great video!

  • @garykirkpatrick8425
    @garykirkpatrick8425 Před 2 lety

    Your tutorials are exceptional. I really appreciate that you are clear and concise, something one does not find in many CZcams videos. Thanks so much for your knowledgeable and professional approach.

  • @jeffreysmith9369
    @jeffreysmith9369 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice summary of imports, and usage context. Well done.

  • @metalshopwithtroy5755
    @metalshopwithtroy5755 Před 4 lety +5

    Very well outlined video.
    Yes you get what you pay for and that applies to everything and even more important do your homework.
    QUINN, you supply a great amount of well thought out content, i found it very valuable and I already have a very good
    Asian lathe 12 x 36. Well done

  • @keganboddy8598
    @keganboddy8598 Před 4 lety

    Wow! I have been looking for info just like this! I am in the market for a lathe....hopefully in the new year. I have been agonizing over how much to spend and what to look for. Thank you, this info is awesome!

  • @zmotorsports62
    @zmotorsports62 Před 4 lety +2

    Nice video. I couldn’t agree more about the variations in import machines.
    I purchased a PM1340GT about five years ago from Matt and it is such a joy to use because of the quality.
    Mike

  • @jeffreysmith9369
    @jeffreysmith9369 Před 4 lety +8

    Never mind the lathe advice, I am going to recommend folks look at this video for motor application. Excellent.

  • @andrewsutherland6370
    @andrewsutherland6370 Před rokem

    Fantastic presentaion, so refreshing listening to someone that knows their stuff!

  • @bunnyrabbit4972
    @bunnyrabbit4972 Před 2 lety

    Very good technical explanation of pros/cons, features, and failings. Well done!

  • @buyusedpaycash7752
    @buyusedpaycash7752 Před 3 lety +1

    Smart and articulate. I know almost nothing about machining, but thinking about the hobby for myself and friends. EXTREMELY helpful. Thank you!!!

  • @garyperry4832
    @garyperry4832 Před rokem

    Just seen this and it’s the best review of a import I have ever seen on CZcams. Thinks for the effort you put into this video!!

  • @andresvaca5848
    @andresvaca5848 Před 3 lety

    Looking to buy a lathe for the first time, so far you have been the most informative about imported lathes. Keep up the good work, thanks for all the tips.

  • @MrAtheHun
    @MrAtheHun Před rokem

    Thank you, wonderfully concise insights into choosing a small lathe. Brilliant use of language to share knowledge, very rare in these parts.

  • @MrTrekFanDan
    @MrTrekFanDan Před 4 lety +1

    Outstanding video, you’re in my top 3 favorite channels!
    I love detailed information videos, well done.
    Thank you for taking the time.🖖😎

  • @kvlasblom
    @kvlasblom Před 3 lety

    I've been watching your videos for some time, with high interest. I've now come to the point that I really need to buy a lathe (I drew some parts that I was hoping to get CNC made, but that turned out to be too expensive), and found this video extremely useful, thank you!

  • @bryans5150
    @bryans5150 Před 3 lety

    Very nice job my friend. I was fortunate enough to find an old Sheldon lathe that was tracked back to a navy ship. Very substantial castings but the restoration of these beautiful machines is no easy task.... But very do-able. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge... It is greatly appreciated.

  • @29Mucker
    @29Mucker Před 2 lety

    The best video I've seen on lathes! Thank-you very much and keep up the good work. You answered all the questions I had.

  • @jameshickman5299
    @jameshickman5299 Před 3 lety +9

    This is a REALLY good video.
    Perhaps the best one I’ve seen on imported lathes.
    Thank you.

  • @larryschweitzer4904
    @larryschweitzer4904 Před 4 lety +1

    A well done discussion of the lathe. When I bough my lathe I went bigger because I didn't want to get all the things for a small lathe only to discover it wouldn't do what I wanted and then have to buy all the stuff for the new larger lathe. Ease of use is important to me. That means I would get these luxury items: QCTP, DRO, gear box, drill chuck, live centers, 5C collet chuck & collet sets, boring bars, the list can go on for ever. Then you find the next got-a-have, a mill!

  • @trackie1957
    @trackie1957 Před 3 lety

    Great explanation of solid state DC speed control. Simple and clear.

  • @scania1982
    @scania1982 Před 4 lety +9

    I am impressed by your knowledge.

  • @cristofacar
    @cristofacar Před 2 lety +1

    I have just discovered this channel and I'm glad I did. Some youtubers just know what they are talking about, and some just pretend to know. You very clearly do know and I will be back to feast on more of your knowledge :) (having subscribed, of course!)

  • @paulperotti3946
    @paulperotti3946 Před 2 lety

    Really appreciate the detail and clarity of your explanations.

  • @willemdafuq
    @willemdafuq Před 3 lety +2

    I watch this video periodically even though I got my lathe a year ago. It’s really helpful and I get something new out of it each time

  • @rickguyevans
    @rickguyevans Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for a very articulate and thorough episode on import lathe buying! I went through this exercise years ago and recognize the quality differences...you get what you pay for is very correct. I've had Southbend; Atlas; Craftsman and assorted Chinese machines and wherever you are in life can dictate how much you can spend on a given machine for personal use. Very impressed with your attention to detail! By day, I am a millwright and after hours, an avid motorcycle restorer(?) and hobbyist. Keep up the great videos:))

  • @jwboatdesigns
    @jwboatdesigns Před 8 měsíci

    I used a lathe a couple of times when in school at age 14 but not since, now, 60 years later I've just bought a brand new lathe. I'm very pleased to have found your channel, thanks for taking the trouble to post all of this. Very helpful.

  • @skipd9164
    @skipd9164 Před rokem

    Took machine shop in High school then apprenticeship in a large manufacturing company in early 80s. Then worked for GE. I worked in the gear plant in Lynn MASS. Every machine was huge. Horz boring mills used steel t floor for table and y was over 15ft. VTL machined 20ft and bigger bullgears. Politicians let manufacturing leave our country and what stayed became CNC. Always loved milling and lathe work and will get them soon

  • @michaellitzkow8123
    @michaellitzkow8123 Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks for a great explanation of the compromises found on the smallish import lathes. I hadn't realized that the quick change gearboxs don't give you the ability to make threads. It sure is true that the tooling will end up costing as much or more than the lathe. However you can spread that out some. Also, if you upgrade the lathe later, you'll be able to keep much of the tooling for use with the new lathe.

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 Před 3 lety +1

    I have a number of suggestions or comments on this matter. Some of which I will list in the modifying machine video GoldeiHacks has
    1) Spindle Bore. Bigger is better. To a Point. Obviously a 2"/51mm bore in the spindle is a little ridiculous in a 10" lathe. It could be done but there are compromises that would need to be made.
    2) Lathe Size. Bigger is Better. Again to a point. Where is the lathe going? What type of work do you plan on doing? If the lathe is going in a basement shop how hard will it be to move? Will you need to break it down into smaller pieces? How many strong backs may be needed? Type of work. If your interest is minature steam or IC engines. 10" is plenty big. If you intend on doing side jobs repairing stuff for various people. I personally would not want a bench type machine.
    And as mentioned in the video, customer support varies. Also machines seem to come and go in terms the type available.

  • @charleskwan2005
    @charleskwan2005 Před 3 lety

    Thank you Quinn for this informative video. It answered my question regarding the half nut/threading dial.

  • @bobaloo2012
    @bobaloo2012 Před 4 lety +13

    One nice thing about a good DRO is that other than threading, metric or imperial is just a matter of pushing a button on the display.
    10 years ago when I bought my new lathe, American lathes were almost impossible to find here in Oregon and were really expensive, so I ended up with a Grizzly 4003G, 12x36 with Japanese spindle bearings, D1-5 camlock chuck, lots of good features and it's done a great job for me, and I paid a little over $2500 for it brand new. Today, the same lathe is more than $4500, and oddly enough the American machines have come down in price and become much more available. I'd probably make a different decision today if I found the right lathe, but I've been very happy with the G4003.
    I did have a little 8x14 for a while, the lack of a quick change gearbox quickly drove me crazy, and I had to sell it and buy the 12x36 as soon as I could. Don't underestimate the pain in the butt factor of having to swap gears for thread cutting, if at all possible get a lathe with a gearbox, and do put a cheap DRO on it. A DRO isn't necessary but it does make a lot of jobs much easier.

    • @ctrchg
      @ctrchg Před 3 lety

      Thanks, Don. Good information. I am just getting into machining and am watching a lot of videos before buying. Blondi has been the best teacher so far.

    • @ctrchg
      @ctrchg Před 3 lety

      Also, good tip on the DRO. Are they easy to add?

    • @robfrancis8830
      @robfrancis8830 Před 3 lety

      I think people started realizing you can do alot with a new import with a little tweak while the SB is mostlikely worn out and missing hard to find parts. I have both . Thanks BH for a nice primer on import lathe.

    • @brahtrumpwonbigly7309
      @brahtrumpwonbigly7309 Před 2 lety

      First thing I did was throw a DRO on my small mill. It's a lifesaver.

  • @hermannstraub3743
    @hermannstraub3743 Před 4 lety +2

    Very good explanation. I am nowhere near to machining by myself, but i liked to listen to you.

  • @eddiel1538
    @eddiel1538 Před 10 měsíci

    This is the best video on CZcams about lathe buying guide, you covered all important things that every beginer need to know, I am one of them. Thank you so much, keep up the good work.

  • @mechanicsdiary1438
    @mechanicsdiary1438 Před 2 lety

    I just found your channel. You due a fantastic job. I have just purchased a small lath and mill. I have started watching your channel and I learned more in 3 hours than I have after being around machine shops for decades. That is to say I paid others to make the parts. Thank you.

  • @martinolesen9930
    @martinolesen9930 Před rokem

    I really like your videos, they are extremely easy to understand, they are short and clear, thank you 😀

  • @timothylyon2567
    @timothylyon2567 Před 3 lety

    Thanks so much for this informative, professional video. I'm about to buy a small lathe, and feel much more confident about what to look for.

  • @thomastthai
    @thomastthai Před rokem +1

    Concise presentation that hit all the critical points. Thank you!

  • @bobaloo2012
    @bobaloo2012 Před 4 lety +20

    I prefer to do all my work in "nano light seconds', which conveniently enough is almost exactly a foot in the old money, or of course we could define a light second as one giga-foot.

    • @swistedfilms
      @swistedfilms Před 3 lety +2

      Bah! For *TRUE* precision one must use the Planck Scale!
      And the metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!

    • @arrlmember
      @arrlmember Před 3 lety

      @@ianmoone2359 - You say that "The speed of light is infinite" yet if you take a test required by the Funny Candy Company (FCC) they expect you to know that the speed of light is three hundred million meters per second. Furthermore, the wavelength of a radio signal (in meters) is equal to the speed of light divided by the frequency of the radio signal. (Lamda = 300 x 10 to the 6th divided by frequency in megahertz.)
      An example of "close, but no cigar" is the two meter ham band. Since 300 / 2 = 150, but the 2 meter band is actually between 144 and 148 MHz, they made their point. Notice I relocated two of the variables, but within the rules of mathematics.

  • @turningpoint6643
    @turningpoint6643 Před 4 lety +6

    A proper traditionalist would simply chose to base there measurements in full & fractional cubits over the flash in the pan imperial / metric fad that's sure to fade away any day now. :-)
    A very well done video covering most of the basics that I wish had been available about 40 yrs ago when I started with a home shop.

  • @hg2.
    @hg2. Před rokem

    Fantastic.
    Best intro-to-home/hobby-lathes ever seen. ... A "must see" for would-be machinists.

  • @alangivens7983
    @alangivens7983 Před 4 lety +6

    This was extremely helpful thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @Michael_Mears
    @Michael_Mears Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. More than I can take in in one sitting. Very useful to refer back to.

  • @mpalfy67
    @mpalfy67 Před 2 lety

    Excellent presentation and coverage found yet! Well done!

  • @thomasalison6188
    @thomasalison6188 Před 3 lety

    Really a great guide for choosing & buying a lathe, great job on the video!!

  • @markkoons7488
    @markkoons7488 Před 2 lety +1

    I sure learn a lot from your videos. Besides, you present well. Thank you so much.

  • @Darren_Barclay
    @Darren_Barclay Před 2 lety

    I learn a lot from you, I like you dude, am a totally noob and just purchased a warco super mini lathe and am just soaking up everything I can. Your very informative through a broad scope of topics, so keep up the good work and I’ll continue to watch your content. Planning on making small things to begin with but got it in my head to make model engines, we’ll see how that goes, rather excited to get started. After spending £1500 on everything I can say am set with the basics and choking to get started, but there so much to machining, it gets the old nogging sparking lol. Keep up the good work.

  • @weloveups831
    @weloveups831 Před 3 lety

    She is awesome. Great job explaining these types of lathes.
    I enjoy the work you do! Thanks

  • @TheRealWindlePoons
    @TheRealWindlePoons Před 3 lety +2

    Excellent video, topics well explained. It is one thing to know your stuff but quite another to be able to explain it so well.
    On the metric/imperial question:
    I started my machine shop apprenticeship in the UK in 1975. (Rail engineering - my lathe had a 4ft swing and 15ft between centres.) Jobs were 50:50 metric and imperial so the apprentice school put us on imperial machines with metric drawings and metric machines with imperial drawings. The mental arithmetic involved is not hard. Just use a metric micrometer on metric drawings and an imperial micrometer for imperial drawings.
    The big difference came for us with screw-cutting. All our lathes had a screw-cutting dial showing where to engage the half nuts on the leadscrew at the start of each cut. We found that changing the gear train for a metric pitch using an imperial leadscrew meant the nut engagement dial no longer worked. We had to leave the nuts engaged permanently and reverse the chuck between cuts to get back to the start position. This makes the job more of a chore and practically doubles the time taken. I once had to cut a 1.25" OD x 5" long four start square thread nut on a metric machine this way and it took over a week.

  • @miketheknife2
    @miketheknife2 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video, well explained and clear voice. Very helpful to anyone looking to buy a lathe ! 👏

  • @russelljohnson6243
    @russelljohnson6243 Před rokem

    You gave tons of great information here, thank you very much! You have earned a new subscriber, thanks again!

  • @marcmckenzie5110
    @marcmckenzie5110 Před 4 lety +16

    Quinn, as I started machining in the past year, I have watched about every video I could find on what to look for in a lathe. This is easily the most comprehensive and easy to understand summary so far, and I learned a few things myself - like the different uses of lead screws in powering the carriage. It would be so useful if even one supplier or event had the whole spectrum lined up with all the important suppliers, so in person or via a video like this the newbie could actually see what the trade-offs are. The one thing you didn't touch on is that most of the North American importer/integrators of Chinese lathes have their own histories and biases - which unless you are fairly experienced, are difficult to decode. It is a thorny field to shop in!

  • @stevebrueggen800
    @stevebrueggen800 Před rokem

    I am interested in getting into a lathe. This was so informative, and well presented. ❤Thank you.

  • @raymondhorvatin1050
    @raymondhorvatin1050 Před 4 lety +4

    Yes I agree with your statement on 7 by 10 mini lathes after spending much time smoothing and replacing spindle bearings I can produce almost acceptable results . It's a fun toy to play with and I've learned a lot about how not to do things.

  • @CrimFerret
    @CrimFerret Před 4 lety +6

    Great video and a lot of good info. I'm hoping to get into machining for hobby and DIY stuff. Something around the size of that 10X22 would seem to be ideal for that. A knee mill of similar quality (with DRO) would fill things out nicely. Much as it would be fun to play with CNC, I need to learn basic manual machining first.

  • @mike-carrigan
    @mike-carrigan Před 4 lety +21

    Nice! Are you going to do one on the mill too? Those are probably what I'm going to have eventually

  • @xealit
    @xealit Před rokem

    the list in the description alone is awesome! 👍

  • @123suzukisamurai
    @123suzukisamurai Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent presentation of info. Thank u very much. U explain things in a way everyone can understand