Unused Deus Ex conversation: Red Arrow in Wan Chai Market

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  • čas přidán 18. 01. 2011
  • Seems like this guy was supposed to greet you somewhere in the market, but was then hidden off to the side. You can see him off to the left of where you start in the T pose. My handy dandy dartstop can knock him out of the T pose and he has this interesting tidbit to tell you. Do note that he is armed, unlike the tea house idiot, and could have been intended to attack you at some point.
    Make of it what you like. It's unused content.
    My theory:
    There was likely a storyline where you actually go to Hong Kong because UNATCO tells you to and this guy would be your welcoming committee for the beginning of the "assassinate Tracer Tong" mission. That having been removed, this guy is forever damned to be off to the side.
    And I'm not sure what's up with the the glitchy video stuff. I had to record this several times at various settings to get one this good. I guess the mild Missouri winter is just too hot for Mr. HD4670.
  • Hry

Komentáře • 52

  • @pauldenton1892
    @pauldenton1892 Před 11 lety +59

    My w... what?

  • @peepsbates
    @peepsbates Před 12 lety +35

    I nearly spat out my tea when he said wife. Seriously the earlier story must have been crazy. Or it could have been one of chows lies

    • @nopushbutton
      @nopushbutton Před 6 lety +24

      It is. When you talk to her she says she knows Paul "intimately."

    • @domasbaliulis23
      @domasbaliulis23 Před rokem +5

      @@nopushbutton she IS the liar, she is the bloody actress, for god sake.

    • @Dennis-nc3vw
      @Dennis-nc3vw Před rokem +1

      Actually I've heard there's another variant of this conversation if Paul is alive, in which JC knows Paul is married to Chow before coming to Hong Kong.

    • @akrammeziane9979
      @akrammeziane9979 Před 5 měsíci

      On a message in his apartment computer​@@Dennis-nc3vw

  • @shuboy05
    @shuboy05 Před 13 lety +22

    The part about Maggie Chow and Paul Denton being married was part of early versions of the story.

  • @MrBrassBalls
    @MrBrassBalls Před 4 měsíci +3

    Oh, so every white dude with black hair, glowing blue eyes and a black leather coat somehow concealing a shoulder-fired rocket launcher look the same to you?

  • @domasbaliulis23
    @domasbaliulis23 Před rokem +2

    "stay away from the luminous path."
    red arrow member in kowloon, 2049

  • @Dennis-nc3vw
    @Dennis-nc3vw Před rokem +2

    0:35
    Yes, just want JC Denton needs. Good deals on newspapers and vases.

  • @Markworth
    @Markworth  Před 11 lety +8

    I wish. But it would be, understandably, mighty difficult. A lot of the props and characters still exist, but producing the maps and storylines for the UNATCO path would be an epic amount of work. And reproducing the voice acting...wowzers.

  • @haircafekevin
    @haircafekevin Před 9 lety +26

    This guy does appear in the PS2 version.

    • @TheRedSetterr
      @TheRedSetterr Před 8 lety +5

      +Kevin Mann Where?

    • @default0012
      @default0012 Před 6 lety +5

      Are you sure? I just checked extensively and I couldn't find him.

    • @domasbaliulis23
      @domasbaliulis23 Před rokem

      im pretty sure you are talking about the one in tonnochi road.

  • @Markworth
    @Markworth  Před 11 lety +6

    The maps for the Whitehouse segment, a lot of conversations, and who knows what else would have to be created for it to work. Otherwise, what's the use? Shifter mod restores a lot of the unused content, but other things (like this conversation) don't really make sense unless you properly have the option to join UNATCO.

  • @Markworth
    @Markworth  Před 11 lety +4

    That's too bad. But I can assure you that introducing the unused content in Deus Ex is not sufficient for reproducing the unfinished storylines.

  • @Jeansowaty
    @Jeansowaty Před 3 lety +2

    Cool discovery. I really wonder how the story was like in that "side with UNATCO" way of playing.

  • @Trexmaster12
    @Trexmaster12 Před 11 lety +2

    *sigh
    If only somebody would make a mod by introducing unused material (conversations and characters); the "uncut, uncensored, director's cut" edition, y'know.

  • @Trexmaster12
    @Trexmaster12 Před 11 lety +1

    Yes, I read about that mod but there some things that I don't want to be implemented or changed: unique weapons, deadlier npcs and new augmentations; for instance.
    My only bet is to wait. for someone with enough skills and patience to do that mod for my taste.

  • @KatamoriENG
    @KatamoriENG Před 11 lety +1

    What the...? It is seriously in the game?! I thought my vision is augmented...

  • @nopushbutton
    @nopushbutton Před 6 lety

    Huh. He's like the Red Arrow equivalent of the Luminous path guy on Tonnochi road that tries to run up to you and you shoot in the face.

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 Před 2 měsíci

    I'm torn on whether or not this deserves to be restored in case of an Enhanced Edition.
    In the meantime, sucks that the devs never thought of just making the necessary voiced lines, assets, and more new doodads and tidbits in the expectant hopes that other capable folk would create the UNATCO Loyalty route their own way... the modding community would have become godlike heroes by doing such work.

    • @Markworth
      @Markworth  Před 2 měsíci

      Come on. You know you want the White House and Moon Base missions where you join MJ12.

  • @Markworth
    @Markworth  Před 13 lety +1

    @StarFleetCommand3 Yeah, I wanted to kill him for points without scaring everyone. Stunned+Fire+Dead seems to work well for that.

  • @chessemchesse3676
    @chessemchesse3676 Před 5 lety

    what mods were you using?
    id really wish i could use em too

  • @brdane
    @brdane Před 13 lety

    please tell me how to get all the custom weapons you have

  • @Rolatis
    @Rolatis Před 8 lety +8

    How'd you get this guy out of his 'T' pose?

    • @Markworth
      @Markworth  Před 8 lety +12

      +Rolatis I hit him with a custom dart projectile that sets his orders to none.

  • @adamhamilton8313
    @adamhamilton8313 Před 7 lety +9

    Paul was married to Maggie? Gross 😖

    • @Markworth
      @Markworth  Před 7 lety +11

      Paul isn't your regular old 007-style secret agent. He has morals. Of course he married the villainous bird before sneaking around her not-so-secret MJ12 apartment base.

    • @adamhamilton8313
      @adamhamilton8313 Před 7 lety +10

      Of course! That's why he married her! I don't think he married her for her compassion though. Are there any hints in game that indicate that they're married? I remember reading an email sent to her, or a data cube or something like that in her apartment.
      And I also remember reading an email on Pauls computer where he was talking to a women, being compassionate to her.

    • @Markworth
      @Markworth  Před 7 lety +10

      I can't remember off the top of my head if there's any in-game proof of such a thing. Maggie does mention that she knows Paul "intimately", but it might all be a lie to convince JC to work against the Luminous Path.

    • @mysteriousDSF
      @mysteriousDSF Před 5 lety +1

      they two definitely had an affair, but who was the one outsmarting the other is anyone's guess. at least that's what I gather from the game.

  • @Rolatis
    @Rolatis Před 4 lety +4

    Apparently theres a bit more dialogue to this if Paul was killed in the raid (Paul is dead flag has been set to true)
    JC: "He got killed in New York."
    Red Arrow: "I am sorry to hear that."
    JC: "I want to find out what made him risk his life."
    Red Arrow: "Well, Mrs Chow welcomes you to visit her at 1313 Tonnochi Road."
    www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68516&page=2&s=441fd9868c2055e8691c1e860a8587d0

  • @SFC3
    @SFC3 Před 13 lety +1

    Star Trek Phaser?

  • @Aywusgod
    @Aywusgod Před 6 lety +1

    Did they add this guy in Revision? Because I recall having this conversation.

    • @MrPoke
      @MrPoke Před 5 lety +1

      no, he's not in there

    • @ggabey14
      @ggabey14 Před 3 lety

      @@MrPoke Yea, he isnt in the game

  • @Markworth
    @Markworth  Před 12 lety +1

    @Hivnom Just pick a model for multiplayer mode and start a new single player game.

  • @jhj22
    @jhj22 Před 6 lety

    Where can I get this skin mod ? :O

    • @Markworth
      @Markworth  Před 6 lety +6

      In Shifter, if you play in Unrealistic mode, your player model will be your selected MP character. I like the scuba guy because he's clearly the most prepared.

  • @Markworth
    @Markworth  Před 12 lety +1

    @Hivnom Shifter mod

  • @boganlogan6457
    @boganlogan6457 Před 3 lety +1

    is this the Shifter mod?

    • @Markworth
      @Markworth  Před 3 lety +1

      I use Shifter with some custom weapons that I made, but you can do this with vanilla and console commands.

  • @Daniel_Delayne
    @Daniel_Delayne Před 9 lety +1

    why'd you have to kill him??

    • @Markworth
      @Markworth  Před 9 lety +5

      I dunno. I think I wanted to see what he was carrying.

  • @Trexmaster12
    @Trexmaster12 Před 11 lety

    Who said anything about reproducing: they're there, only unactivated.

  • @Trexmaster12
    @Trexmaster12 Před 11 lety +4

    Want to know another one?
    *This require cheating, though*
    Everytime you go in Hell's Kitchen, respectively in Smuggler's Lair, summon Ford Schick. I don't think it matters if you save him or not but, meh, your choice.