Seyyed Hossein Nasr | The Global Philosophy of Religion Project | Islam
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- How does Islamic philosophy define ultimate reality? What is the meaning of divine infinity within Islam?
Seyyed Hossein Nasr is University Professor of Islamic Studies at The George Washington University. He is recognized as a foremost scholar of Islamic and Perennial Philosophy. In this interview with host Robert Lawrence Kuhn, he discusses metaphysics, God, and reality from the Islamic perspective.
The Global Philosophy of Religion Project aims to make the philosophy of religion a truly global field by promoting the scholarly work of researchers from underrepresented regions and religious traditions. It is led by Professor Yujin Nagasawa and hosted by the University of Birmingham.
Learn more about the project: www.global-philosophy.org/
This project was made possible in part through the support of a grant from the John Templeton Foundation. The opinions expressed in this video are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of the John Templeton Foundation.
I had the privilege of Dr. Nasr being my mentor as a graduate student. I will never forget the man.
how did you get him as your mentor
♥️ Fool who is seeking a luminous sun while holding a candle ♥️
that was a fun saying,isn't it
Or the other way around.
Why you seek candle when you have the 🌞?
Always a pleasure to listen him
this fool traitor would be jailed if he returned to Iran
He is a confused man and traitor
@@anesehalborzi84 there are no traitors in religion , just different opinions/views/paths
@@francesco5581 he betrayed Iran .
And he betrayed my university
Sometimes too much informative knowledge confuses, while confident comes from experiencing the Truth. Can you explain to somebody what is sweet, one who never ate sugar? Truth of the taste cannot be replaced with words.
So God has given us Aql to confuse us? If too much informative knowledge mislead people God wouldn't have commanded Muslims repeatedly to use Aql in the Quran.
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@@alihammadshah This is another way of him saying he's having a hard time understanding.
ego death is the ultimate experience of union with god, happens when you die before you die, to get there you either take a big dose of psychedelics, like smoking 5-Meo-Dmt, or drinking a DMT brew like ayahuasca, this is the easy and immediate way, OR , you can meditate while doing some breathwork to manipulate the body into thinking that you're dying, so it can release DMT naturally in your brain and BAM, you experience god
Or can you explain eunuch what is sexual pleasure is?
"La illa illa Huwa" Allah is the (sufficient)witness that he is One God. My favorite supreme concept of the reality of Allah.
Thank you, Dr Nasr, for opening me up to Islam.
I love Dr.Nasr. Thanks for this interview. He becomes so old, but still full of knowledge and wisdom. We don't have so many wise and sages like Dr. Nasr in our modern world.
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@@u235u235u235 Ur fool father is traitor not the wisest and best philosopher of the century of Iran
Excellent conversation. Seyyed Hossein Nasr is great, mashalla.
♥️ Ultimate reality is limitless ♥️
@@eduar2971 ultimate reality, to be expressed most simply i believe and know, is infinite nothingness or absolute consciousness between +0 and -0 which I like to call Maitrey.
Why are people of your background always talking in vague pantheistic terms
@@stephenb6911
+0: !
Maitrey: 👽
-0: ?
Why do u worship the universe and assign it false consiousness
@@maazhanif8753
+0: true
Maitrey:
-0: false
Brilliant!👌you can not find anything like this discussion in philosophy departments and conferences in the world, or with people like William Lane Craige...
The foremost (duty) in religion is the acknowledgment of God; the perfection of acknowledging Him is to bear witness to Him; the perfection of bearing witness to Him is to believe in His Oneness; the perfection of believing in His Oneness is to regard Him as pure; and the perfection of regarding Him as pure is to deny Him attributes, because every attribute is a proof that it is different from that to which it is attributed, and everything to which something is attributed is different from the attribute.
Thus, whoever attempts a description of God creates His like; and whoever creates His like regards Him as two; and whoever regards Him as two recognizes parts for Him; and whoever recognizes parts for Him mistook Him; and whoever mistook Him faulted Him; and whoever faulted Him admitted limitations for Him; and whoever admitted limitations for Him enumerated Him (i.e., denied His oneness and uniqueness).
Whoever said, “In what is He?” held that He is confined; and whoever said, “On what is He?” held He is not on something else. He is a being, but not through the phenomenon of coming into existence. He exists, but not by coming out of nonexistence. He is near to everything, but not in physical proximity. He is distinct from everything, but not separated (by distance). He acts, but without the need of movement or need of instruments. He is One, such that there is none with whom He may keep company or none whose company He may miss. Sermon 1 (Nahjul Al Balagha (Peak of Eloquence), Ali ibn Abi Taleb, Commander of the Faithful, Chief of all believers.
Blessing to you Mr. Kuhn
I adore the Bible.
I love mysticism
Hermetic's is the utmost importance.
I am a Hermeticist.
My devotion, might you say is religiously, is that to Philosophy which is the core of all.
In fact, if God had a religion, it would be Philosophy.
True Philosophy -- not the separated and divided thought circles of modern times, I mean the core, the very nature.
The sacred sciences, music, art, poetry, combat.
The cosmos, solar system, nature, being.
Blessings to the righteous, divine, empathic, understanding people of Islam. Much respect I have for the middle east. I only wish that Divinity and reverence, piety like long ago, would return to the Hearts of man, not only over there, rather all over this majesty planet which we experience life.
Thank you for this incredible video.
And may Truth be acknowledged as a direction we grow in.
May Spirituality return as the true lifestyle as it once was.
May modern man discover again his Divinity.
Ameen.
Hermès Trismegistus was a Prophet of God in my opinion.
oops you missed the point
He mentions a german metaphysician at 21:05 but i can't figure out how to spell his name correctly to look him up. Does anybody know?
Frithjof Schuon
Frithjof Schuon
@@charliefoxtrotter Nuttiness is the major flavor of religion.
@@Stimmevon70 I find the idea of divine's negation of himself included in all possibilities very troubling! Dr nassr is saying, that is very well explained in islam! But i don't understand, what exactly he is reffering to?
@@khabibnurmagomedov9707 it's above my paygrade to speculate about his thoughts, but it is the acceptance of "No God but god" that affirms the creed for Muslims. As such, it's not a negation of God per se, but rather, it is to arrive at the conclusion that there in naught but He (beyond gender, of course).
Shaykh Nour Kabbani said that we first must reach the knowledge certainty by the mind, being certain of a Creator (swt). What Prof Nasr said seems to point out that it is that faculty of the human being that is called intelligence-in the latin meaning of the ability to discern the truth-that allows human beings to find the truth by using that tool (the intelligence faculty) in searching for the truth by applying it to knowledges. Thereby, reaching the "knowledge of certainty" through finding truth and becoming certain of it.
❤️ beyond the duality of good and evil ♥️
this fool traitor would be jailed if he returned to Iran
I think he can not transfer the reasoning of al_ hekmat or the philosophy of devinity very well ,
Salam warohmah, Sayyed Hossein Nasr.
this fool traitor would be jailed if he returned to Iran
Muhammad has taught us some profound lessons.
Also record a video with Pakistani scholor Javed Ahmad ghamidi
lol
Mr. Lawrence, your guest's voice is not that clear we can barely understand him.
Subtitles are there
❤️queen of all science ♥️
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A lot of profound refutations by atheists in the comments. jk Personal attacks only.
Islam and Jews claim that the almighty God exists here now, but this is IMPOSSIBLE. The reason is that the almighty God WOULD KNOW the REAL future. Here "REAL" means the ONE future that will really take place, we have only ONE past and only ONE future is ahead: the ONLY ONE which will become our past. Well, God is supposed to know that ONE future. In other terms God MAKES A PREDICTION of that one REAL future. But this means that He CANNOT STATE "I reserve the right to change that future later if I like to, because I am omnipotent". The reason is that the omnipotent God's PREDICTION CANNOT FAIL, God thus MUST GIVE UP HIS RIGHT to change it later: God CANNOT AFFORD any error. In this scenario God would thus BE OBLIGED to follow exactly his prediction down to the smallest details, because the PREDICTED FUTURE must EXACTLY UNFOLD LIKE IT IS, different decisions are no more allowed. Worse than that, MAKING ANY KIND OF DECISION is no more allowed. But God is not even thinking to live in this nightmarish situation, this is why the ALMIGHTY GOD CANNOT BE HERE. What is the God's solution to this problem? Simply - as in a CD - God records all the words and actions to be taken by Him in that well determined future and lets that CD in playback mode: those words and actions will be AUTOMATICALLY TAKEN. God is thus absolutely free from any other duty: He completed his work, He could even go away.
@Muzaffar Zaky My comment above - even when arguing about God - is a LAICAL, PHILOSOPHICAL comment, ONLY based on LOGIC, not on scriptures (this is made to respect this channel devoted to philosophy). I thus expect that you try to falsify those arguments only using logic. To recap, that comment states: IF God exists, then He would surely be able to PREDICT the future. But in this case God would immediately BECOME SLAVE (!) of his own prediction. The only way to avoid that is to set his POWER so that his prediction will come AUTOMATICALLY true WITHOUT his participation. This means that the God's words will be automatically spoken in the world by NOBODY (as well as miracles, automatically made by his power too). All above is just LOGIC. However, a strong basis for that can be found in the gospels.
@Muzaffar Zaky the Quran says that the almighty God is here among us. This is not possible. Why? Because God would be a SLAVE of his OWN prediction of the future, OBLIGED to do what is included there. That prediction cannot be changed anymore. Being a SLAVE means being NOT almighty. The same applies also to other monotheistic religions.
• Sahih International:
Or [consider such an example] as the one who passed by a township which had fallen into ruin. He said, "How will Allah bring this to life after its death?" So Allah caused him to die for a hundred years; then He revived him. He said, "How long have you remained?" The man said, "I have remained a day or part of a day." He said, "Rather, you have remained one hundred years. Look at your food and your drink; it has not changed with time. And look at your donkey; and We will make you a sign for the people. And look at the bones [of this donkey] - how We raise them and then We cover them with flesh." And when it became clear to him, he said, "I know that Allah is over all things competent." (259)
Al-Baqarah, Ayah 259
Sons of Adam inveigh against [the vicissitudes of] Time, and I am Time, in My hand is the night and the day (1).
(1) As the Almighty is the Ordainer of all things, to inveigh aginst misfortunes that are part of Time is tantamount to inveighing against Him.
Time is something created by God. Don’t be confused by it.
God, who is without limits - may become limited if He wills it so.
Nonsense imo.
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Look at the triangulation of perceived truths between and amongst the three mystical and apophatic traditions of the abrhamic faiths... you're more correct than you know... it is non- sense-able... it is no-thing-ness. The fullest void. The realist unreality.
I like Global philosophy or religion project, it seems an important step towards recognizing my idea of post deism as the only true and final global religion. An idea we live in a world where we already know no gods or divine powers were ever real, and the entire humanity must learn how to live with that fact. To say God doesn't exist is not enough, we must understand people had superstitious beliefs since the down of first civilizations. We can't pretend it never happened, but also not allow false beliefs and wrong concepts to ever emerge again.
This is why we need legions of extremely militant atheists who will purge false metaphysical concepts, by using the most powerful scientific tools on their disposal. They will establish connections with all government academia on the planet and experimentally debunk false claims. Then governments will have no choice but to exclude obviously false religious BS from all public schools and start teaching real knowledge everybody could verify by themselves and come to exactly the same conclusions.
What will be left after purge will become future metaphysics, meaning concepts like Big bang, inflation, black holes, strings and such. Those have at least some theoretical chances that phenomena can be proven real once, in some shape or form unknown to us in the present.
The most important role of philosophy has just begun, since somebody will have to think about every new scientific discovery from all possible aspects. Scientists can't control themselves, it's philosopher's job to keep scientists in check and prevent they could become to immoral or even dangerous to humankind.
Islamic and Hindu regions of the planet are the best examples of what must be done before we can achieve the next stage of enlightenment. Advanced civilizations will have to engineer development and social plans, so rich capitalists could invest their money and resources in Third World countries. Sounds like business as usual, but it's not quite the same as things progress these days, when corporations support authoritarian governments and religious fanaticism, to avoid criticism, obstructions and revolt of the primitive native populations. Philosophy must demonstrate crucial differences from nonsensical word salad to practical and useful information, so natives could learn how to actually build advanced technologies and put sophisticated tools to a good use.
In return, advanced civilizations will also have to change, rationalize consumerism, disarm large armies and adapt to living like true global citizens. First important task should be how to rationalize human population, because natural resources became scarce. We must learn how to maintain large cities according to what is sustainable in natural environment, there's no point to living in slums or in crowded places, but also can't have small, underdeveloped and primitive communities scattered all around the planet. This is why we have to abandon all religions, so we can establish natural balance, we can multiply and spread all over the galaxy once we invent appropriate technologies and gain required knowledge about the universe. Or we can continue to tolerate this ideological insanity until the entire planet will burn in flames. It's time to choose, it's gods or us, one will have to go.
bring jawed ahmed ghamidi
Don't get SHN started on evolution. Please.
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Ummmm, what?
this fool traitor would be jailed if he returned to Iran
He said that Christian's think God is a man.
No. Christ is the Sun of God -- the Spiritual essence of God.
Christ had 12 disciples, that's the zodiac.
Christ said, I of my own self can do nothing, it is the father in me.
We know God through the Sun, the Christ -- light, life, knowledge, wisdom, love, devotion to others in empathy.
Any Christian who thinks God is a man doesn't know
he said ordinary christians!
@S3RAVA3LM
You don't know who God is and who God is not.
Because you attribute creational properties to God, as 'god' begotten a son.
@@rizwanrafeek3811 if Islam was so great, you wouldn't need to put down the bible and everyone else.
If Islam was Godly, people would gravitate to it.
Because people gravitate to Light, love, life, harmony, beauty, wisdom.
And you have never displayed such virtuous characteristics which are Divine.
I ask you too. All you do is go on about your beliefs.
I ask you to display these qualities
You only attack the bible, reading it literaly.
I informed you that its not a literal book, rather metaphor, and you disregard me because your belief is better that everyone else.
I am part of the universe, and because.you don't respect me, only shows you do not know the Divine.
While there has been theological debate over the nature of Jesus, Trinitarian Christians believe that Jesus is the Logos, God incarnate, God the Son, and "true God and true man"-both fully divine and fully human. Jesus, having become fully human in all respects, suffered the pains and temptations of a mortal man, yet he did not sin.
Do Christians believe Jesus was fully God?
Most Christians believe that Jesus, as well as being fully human, is also fully God. Most Christians believe that Jesus is the second person of the Holy Trinity and is the Son of God.
Who do Christians worship?
Christians, however, believe in a triune God: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. And many evangelicals will say that means Muslims and Jews do not worship the same God as Christians.
Do you need more evidence about man-God, this is from Wikipedia!
This notion that there is an “innate faculty to know the truth” is the problem. It’s an impediment to knowing the truth. The Quran, the New Testament, and the Old Testament cannot all be true. Resurrecting “metaphysics” is stepping back in time 500 years, and, of course, it’s nonsense. Apologists always start their arguments with a flawed premise. He’s a great example. Philosophy of religion kills logic.
The books you mentioned are about consciousness. That's it.
Arguing which are true is arguing which is more of a fruit: apple, oranges or kiwi -- which is a true fruit?
All humans -- meaning true Souls -- have a right to express, this physical, mental, spiritual integrated experience, contemplating on their path to the Divine. And that's what we have within those books.
I don't argue which is true.
That's such a stupid stand point.
Knowledge, Wisdom, Understanding are the Souls whom innately 'Know'.
'I Am' metaphysical.
An integrated interaction in connection and union, is metaphysical. Or Spiritual.
Science today is only mathematics -- modern science is not genuine, not original. It's math.
@@S3RAVA3LM That’s rubbish, gibberish, circular, and self-serving. Innate knowledge never put men on the moon. Religion serves an evolutionary purpose, no doubt, but understanding the world requires more than feelings.
How is it an impediment to knowing the truth? The truth is obvious.
You dismiss metaphysics like these aren’t the most important questions a human can answer. In fact the ability to have these existential discussions is what distinguishes human beings.
@@jonmeador8637
If understanding ‘world’ requires more than feelings, then imagine how much more is required to know about its creator.
To accept God is a choice, but once you have accepted Him then his word becomes a must “jabar” جبر
Who cares about people going to the moon? Has it made society better or people happier? @@jonmeador8637
How can a good person believe that the creator of everything would instruct them to give 100 lashes to someone because they had sex outside marriage?
Shows a lack of understanding of Islam which I’m presuming you are trying to downgrade as evil.
Implementation of punishment in Islam isn’t theological - it is circumstantial, so therefore penal laws can change, be suspended, evolve or reform according to the culture of the times. Similarly Jews and Christians do not stone adulterers anymore, or burn people who May May practice magic..
The other side of the argument from a non religious perspective is that goodness is relative and subjective. What May be good to one person, may not be for others.
@@iqinnovative4886 you can be a non-believer and still think morality is objective, but that's another subject.
Was it ok to give 100 lashes at one time? Is that a command from allah?
How can the creator of everything, a perfect beeing, command such an atrocity!! I've seen videos of lashing, nobody in their right mind can think this is just.
I don't care about other religions, they're also awful.
@@fr3d42 I’ve answered it above - lashing isn’t theological and I believe it was in relation to adultery - ‘down graded’ from stoning as found within the Christian-Judaic tradition. I believe the philosophy was wrecking the sanctity of marriage which in those days or at least in Moses time meant destruction of many lives, stigmatisation of women, children etc and therefore like anything a deterrent.
Either way I am not saying I agree with lashing, however I’m pretty sure the root of either stoning or lashing is not explicitly God’s decree but pragmatic laws which evolve through time.
In regards to which videos you have watched - I think best to speak to an expert on religious law - would I say conservative Christians bombing abortion clinics is God’s law - I think not, similarly in a secular country, the use of the death penalty, is this humane in the 21st century? At least in Europe we do not ‘execute’ human beings.
@@iqinnovative4886 This law is is the coran, it is the word of god. I don't care about other religions they are also cruel. I don't care at what time it was implemented (btw it IS the law in some countries right now).
My question is: how can a good person think this is moral, and how can they believe a perfect beeing would command this?
But something needs to be understood here.
Laws are created for the unlawful. Adultery or Fornication is not looked down upon kindly by God. The culture of sex before marriage amongst consenting adults is a recent phenomena - even as short as 30 years ago - sex before marriage, in western countries, was considered a taboo and practically unheard off - in many countries it still is quite a shock.
So although we can assume that this worldly punishment has been decreed for sex before marriage, the fact is that this verse looks strongly at creating a law around sex outside marriage; an extra-marital affair - after all, fornication is defined as sexual intercourse between two people not married to each other.
So yes, this strict and horrible punishment for an act of fornication find its way in the Quran - for an act of cheating on your spouse, in many cases, is the last nail in the coffin. Couples set apart, families get torn, and the entire societal structure breaks down. And hence, a punishment that can prevent the crime. Strict laws are made so that the unlawful can be in check. This law is applicable for both Men and Women. However, God goes onto protect the ones, especially the women, if accused falsely.
Here is the thing though, if this Law has been decreed for us, who in their right mind would do it?
We are born as emotional, irrational and gullible animals. If we remain in that state then, this guy will make sense to you. If you strived to become rational and a critical thinker, you will not accept the crap this guy is stepping in.
Wow it just burns 🔥 you up that a Muslim ☪️ is interviewed. Did he strike a nerve?
As long as people don't oppress others with their beliefs.
I protect peace, and it's a very difficult battle.
Be a good person, seek Divinity, be a star, be conscious rather than of the subconscious -- this is what I respect.
Critical thinker,hmm,self acclaimed critical thinkers with limited knowledge and experience.I laugh.
Lol this clown again🤡
Carey stated with the emotional turmoil of a child with a quivering lip. Godbless you .
Nasr is not representative of nor a sholar of Islamic metaphysics...from the perspective of the history of ideas, his vision originates from fin de siècle occultism...
he started with strawmaning, yes everybody dont understand every science but everybody can see how the process goes on and there are always proofs if somebody wants to confirm it plus we all can see the products of science thats why we believe in it.
contrast to this so called transcendental fairytale which he calls "metaphysics" that nobody can falsify or confirm it.
A world class philosophers vs an ignorant Internet athiest I know who I'm listening to 🤣
@@knowledge_lantern well that just shows who is the ignorant here , instead of answering the argument you talk about the personalities , thats not how the logic works mate.
i just find his ideas wrong and i have explained why, thats it.
no matter who he is , he still doesnt know how human beings are.
he gives a privilige to a very small number of people calling them "the truth seer" regardless of the personal biases that these people can have and the unfalsifiability of their claims and thats unscientific and completely wrong.
plus im not an athiest.
@@milano0103
you can also verify what the religious authority is saying to the same extend that you can verify the scientist claims.
unless you deal with a charlatan that will scold you for asking questions
The products of science are not necessarily positive
This guy hasn't said a thing.
Lol he talks about you at the beginning. You're not ready...
Show me one piece of evidence that god exists. Think it through and it's a nonsense idea.
So everything we experience is a result of random elements interacting through time? No intelligence whatsoever behind the architecture of reality?
Show me one piece of evidence that God doesn’t exist.
@@stephenb6911 Yes
@@stephenb6911 No specific description, just the one that fits reality.
@@stephenb6911 OK cool. There are countless ways a god that fits our observable, experiential reality could exist. It doesn't have to fit in with the arguments you may be used to rolling out to demonstrate the strength of your position. But you're going with the he one, again, one possibility that all of this, all of it, is a random accident of quantum field fluctuations? That's confidence. There could be an entirely rational narrative that satisfies your requirements but it is easier to feel smarter than other people than it is to actually think about shit.
This is nonsense to a very high power (math-religion pun intended).
Not watching. Philosophy is dead, gets you a job in fast food or academia, and one these two things is useful to other humans.
fast food actually kills other humans ...
Philosophy is awesome.No wonder people worship science today.A sub branch of philosophy.
I think Nasr has a disturbed mind and needs to be immediately hospitalized. His speech is mumbled and hard to comprehend.
Brilliant man!
@@MrTajazikria he’s an idiot. I know him from Iran
Abrahamic religions have very little in common with philosophy. They all came out of politics.
Islamic metaphysics 😂
far more briliant than christians and atheists
Your shallow knowledge 😂😂