The Truth Behind OSRS's Dark Side ft. Ex Mod Mat K
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:16 Mat K Introduction
1:34 What is Mat K up to now?
10:25 What days stand out the most from your time at Jagex?
13:54 What's the story behind the T Bow glitch?
17:00 Do you feel like the lifespan of OSRS has exceeded expectations?
21:15 If you still worked at Jagex, what would you do to reinvigorate the game?
22:56 Steam client and how it affects botting; How does Jagex handle bots?
33:57 Discussion about 3rd party clients
45:24 Continued discussion of botting. How it affects the economy, etc.
52:47 Is it possible for the game to be sustained entirely from ironmen accounts?
55:37 In what ways does RWT damage the game?
1:01:25 Duel Arena and gambling.
1:26:48 Does Jagex underpay it's employees?
1:34:20 MTX Discussion
1:43:16 Would you ever go back and work for Jagex again?
1:48:30 What happened with Mod Reach?
1:50:09 What happened with Mod Jed?
2:07:58 What was a moment where you made a big push forward on something in the game?
2:19:45 Questions from the chat
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0:16 Mat K Introduction
1:34 What is Mat K up to now?
10:25 What days stand out the most from your time at Jagex?
13:54 What's the story behind the T Bow glitch?
17:00 Do you feel like the lifespan of OSRS has exceeded expectations?
21:15 If you still worked at Jagex, what would you do to reinvigorate the game?
22:56 Steam client and how it affects botting; How does Jagex handle bots?
33:57 Discussion about 3rd party clients
45:24 Continued discussion of botting. How it affects the economy, etc.
52:47 Is it possible for the game to be sustained entirely from ironmen accounts?
55:37 In what ways does RWT damage the game?
1:01:25 Duel Arena and gambling.
1:26:48 Does Jagex underpay it's employees?
1:34:20 MTX Discussion
1:43:16 Would you ever go back and work for Jagex again?
1:48:30 What happened with Mod Reach?
1:50:09 What happened with Mod Jed?
2:07:58 What was a moment where you made a big push forward on something in the game?
2:19:45 Questions from the chat
Hey Ryan, Would you be able to DM Raikesy on Twitter/Discord?
The real mvp
Not all capes wear heroes
It’s people like you that are why I’m proud to be part of this community
Thanks for this
guys please stop talking over him mid story. Id much rather hear his story than your reaction.
Edit: The most interesting questions about what happened to old J Mods and you guys cant even stop talking long enough to let him answer the dang question
Aggred STFU when he is answering. Not only that but.. this is a Q&A not a Podcast lol
@@Chris-ex2sl “OSRS PODCAST”
Agreed, and i feel like Raiksey doesnt listen very well to begin with. Regarding the duel arena, Mat K says multiple times that deleting the duel arena (or putting a limit on the amount) would move those players to a different area, where they would try and do the same thing and could cause even more destruction to the vulnerable people of addiction . Then 10 minutes later Raiksey asks "if you could eat the red pill and remove the duel arena, or swallow the blue pill to keep it, what would you do?" What an absurd question, that was already answered.
It was an interesting watch. My only advice would be try not to cut-off a guest mid-answer, let him finish his ideas/sentences before you interject. Will really help with the flow of the podcast.
this, so much
there were so many points where i was just thinking to myself "holy crap let him talk" or "whats the point of asking a question if you're just going to talk over the answer"
Its not necessarily easy to interview somebody in this kind of format when initially they are not formed in any way for this, but I support the fact that letting the guest talk more (even more when it's an iconic/important figure as Matt K was/is) will help the flow of the show.
@@Chucky42069 Its common sense to let someone finish what they are saying lol, this has nothing to do with format
@@Born... Oh, I meant the zoom format where there is delay and everybody interrupts everybody. I have weekly zoom meetings and this was an issue I observed in the first few months of usage. Plus being three hosts and not any of them having the lead on the interview makes it even more scuffed.
Yeah not good interviewers honestly. ex MMK didnt even get to introduce themselves...
I absolutely love Mat K. It's selfish of me to wish for him to still work at Jagex when I know he's moved on and happy. His twitch streams are phenomenal; a friendly, humble, hilarious British man who knows damn near every tiny scrap of the entire history of this game. HIGHLY recommend his streams if you really love this game. He is a master.
Thanks for letting me know he streams on Twitch, didn't know, watched the first one tonight.
Yup, he also reveals how much inside shit theres going on inside jagex lmao. Create a game which people can RWT gp, its like win win win situation. They profit off membership fees, then they can also do inside job shit to RWT themselves etc.
Would love some general time stamps for topics discussed. Doesn't have to be heaps but would help for those of us who don't have 3hrs for each podcast
There are timestamps in the video description if you’re still interested.
You got it friend
Mod Gee was the artist who did the T-Bow glitch.
Watch Bankstandin' episode with Mod Gee and then Mat K backtracks with:
"while SHE was being trained, um or he I cant actually remember who the new artist was"
wait wasn't it the one who was training her the one that did it? because K said the trainer spawned all the bows as an example of what not to do then forgot to remove one
@@mdikeee4817 Yeah it was whoever was training her. At least that's how I understood
A bit late on the reply, but I believe it was Mod West. I recall them talking about the tbow glitch on a Q&A livestream, and they were making jokes about 'west'
Conspiracy theory: Mod Matt K is a lizard and creates the bots with his "new" super computer job. He is still with Jamflex and uses his "new" job as a front for bots so they can boost their player base.
1:37:52 I think he blinks his eyes sideways here
@@Bsliggs haha this gave me a good laugh
I still think J1mmy's idea of removing the duel arena and enable money stakes at the rat pits is quite brilliant.
Great podcast! Loved it! One thing that is slightly hard to listen to is when someone is making a point or replying, another person jumps in and speaks (even briefly) and the whole audio is unintelligible, not sure if there is any remedy but it seems like on other podcasts it doesn't have as much of a blocking effect
Awesome podcast guest this time! I agree with the feedback about not talking over the guest. Obviously, there's a huge learning curve to the whole interview thing. I might recommend having each host and guest record their own audio on their end (and send it to the edtior after) so that you can edit the voices more clearly in post. That's what professional podcasters do to ensure great audio quality.
This took me 3 sittings to get through but glad I did. Mod mat is such a great speaker can answer any question even if that is he has no answer. Side note. Can you guys get evscape back on after br3 went down and it's been 2 years since last seen him.
2:05:33 the final areas had to be both f2p and multi. that limited them to fally/barb/wildy/al kharid. the palace bottleneck was 100% an oversight and not a calculated choice to give anyone an advantage. iirc, the final area was leaked because the environment was tweaked in the update ahead of the finale and someone noticed.
Yeah that’s what I had heard as well. Rot members noticed the AL Khalid palace doors were removed prior to the final hour. At least that was their narrative!
I believe ya Ronan
Shoutout to my main man Mod Mat K. And the rest of the podcast gang!
For gambling-addicted players have an NPC to talk to. Let's say a player knows they're addicted, they talk to the NPC and the NPC can "lock" the player out from staking for like a year or so.
I kept thinking Mod Mat K was wearing a tophat due to his mic placement
This game is so facinating, and its been that for years and years.
I absolutely love it. Hope we have many years to come
Just finished the entire podcast, every second of it. Thanks for posting very interesting topics and all around fun
Mint’s haircut looking fresh 👌
A normal hair cut. Yes, looks better than what these weirdos have nowadays
I also was part of that group that really committed to OSRS when GWD came out, before then I still played both RS3 and OSRS.
Great podcast! Mat K's contributions and further insight into OSRS is incredibly impressive and interesting. It'd be nice to have timestamps, but I will still watch the 3 hours regardless. In the future though, timestamps would be a good addition.
Great insight in this video. Loved having someone close to the corporation on this podcast.
Great postcast! You guys really made the most out of having Mat on, would love to see him back at some point!
So glad you asked him to play the guitar!
Great job guys. Smashed the like goal in less than a week
Not done yet but this is awesome need more of these!
Best episode yet, I've played for almost all of RuneScape and never had any idea how influential mod Mat was in my life. Wonder if he had anything to do with darkscape, or if he's in on the Jagex conspiracy to erase all mentions of that gamemode from the internet
1:45:46
"You burn the shrimp"
Based Mat K realizing you need to fix people and not symptoms. I *love* his view on gambling addiction. You can't just remove every symptom of a problem, and then pretend it'll magically solve itself afterwards
Make the conversation about duel arena into a separated video upload. I bet many more people would be interested hearing just that conversation
Nice to see Mod Mat k again! hopefully there will be more podcasts with him.
this was a real treat, tysm guys!
Another amazing podcast gents, one of my favorites.. I'm only half way through but I would like to suggest some tinkering with the audio levels, I find myself turning my volume up and down for each speaker and I also found Mat to be constantly drowned out. Mintmadcow has the cleanest audio but the sound level also got drowned out by RiceCup etc.. just some food for thought :D
You will always be a part of the Runescape community Matt
Any plan to put these podcasts on apple podcasts or Spotify or anything?
Mat K?
Pog. Really awesome guest guys!
3 hours omfg, I guess I'll just go to sleep and postpone this precious gem. :D
Fall asleep to it for a couple nights
Would love if you guys uploaded to other podcast platforms!
Loved it as always.
Never watched an OSRS podcast before but this was a really interesting listen
Mod Mat K is a smart dude, so chill, he is dearly missed!!
Banger.
MMK is such a great guy, so glad he worked for Jagex when he did.
@Mod Mat K I respect you a ton and loved your streams. But I think the focus on the players who consume the new content shines a little brighter than the players who truly love to put in a days work to gain good gold/hr like picking flax or any resource gathering. We're here! we're just not the ones that make noise.
Interesting remarks around tools during the question about OSRS lifespan.
It makes you wonder if Jagex use version control (Git, Mercurial, etc) today.
Downloaded this yt vid but came back to leave a like
So much insight into JaGeX, really nice to listen to for addicted players
best series on yt
Great video, haven't played the game in almost a year after playing on and off for 15 years. Only issue I had was felt like Raiksey talked and interrupted way too much, aside from that loved hearing from Mat K and some great questions
I agree with the interrupting. Idk what 3 parts were to the rwt K was mentioning.
Love this series 👊🏽
Mod Mat K is so bored of listening to these dudes half his age preach at him about gambling in OSRS.. and they're too immature to realize he's already answered the question.
We love and miss you Mod Matt K ❤️
SEA SHANTAY WAS A STRAIGHT BANGER. MISS YOU MAT K
Love the insight you gained out of Mat K! Keep these coming chaps :)
Mod Mat k should have a statue of him erected in the legends guild. The man did so much for the game it cannot be overstated. Mod mat k, Mod Ash and the Gower brothers. also me, I should be in there too.
dud thanks to the "new to you" feature on youtube I found this. Pretty lit.
The other issue with RWT / Services is that it allows microtransactions to effectively take place, just that Jagex isn't making the money off it. You let people buy items, levels and gold without really earning them.
good video, some of the question were really questionable, perhaps research some topics beforehand..
One of the best pods yet boys keep it up
This was a great video guys! Defs do more of these with ex jmods
Mod Mat K, is the goat. I always thought he was just a meme but man, this guy is incredible. Very intelligent and knows the right way to go about leadership and running a business. Respect for the GOAT
Yayyyyy love the podcast boyzzz
I could listen to Mod Mat K talk RS all day. Such an interesting guy.
Thinking about the duel arena and the problems around gambling within this area of OSRS, would it make sense to have Responsible Gambling control tools or settings available, options similar to those featured on actual betting sites or lottery services. E.g the option to have a short break, long break, lifetime exclusion or even setting your own limits on amount staked per week/month. I don't know how realistic that would be in practice but just something that came to mind when listening
Great idea but ppl just use Alts/ get friends to stake
Hard af brothers!
I wish this podcast got more hype
interesting that he suggested that he would encourage the team to get on diff platforms cuz i always thought it'd be interesting to play on the switch!
Just found this but this is dope
did he delete his twitch? anyway i can see any of his content now?
Love you guys man! Just have a question? Raikesy how did you manage to steal mintys beard and put it on your head!? looks good though
You'll probably never see this Matt K , but you truly are a legend and just like Ash hold a special place in every players heart. Runescape has been intrical to my mental health. I'm 27 and never dreamed I'd still be playing a children's game 16 years later....but I love it. I love osrs. I play because it helps me forget all my problems for a little while. People like you have helped make sure my 'safe place' will hopefully live on for many many years to come.
Thanks for sharing this, very cool.
absolute legend matt love the insights
im loving these podcasts but every small sound u guys makes completely cuts off matt k's mic, theres like 4 times where i had to rewind over and over to try to hear him but to no avail... :(
still love the idea, good work
Lmaoo "Jagex helps me move my stuff from one house to the next"
1:54:45 Ricecup says "Too much being in ROT" and that's the most true shit I've heard lol
This was definitively the Raiksey podcast
Thoroughly enjoyed working with Mat. BS'd to his eyeballs, I learnt a lot.
Mat has some great points about not removing the duel arena. The one counterpoint I would make is that while it would be irresponsible to straight out remove it all at once, giving rise to an underground unregulated gambling world in game, it's just as irresponsible to have a source of gambling in your game and not include a feature to self exclude, like any other *regulated* place of gambling in the world does have. Give the players an option to ban their account from staking, it's the least you can do imo
Cool insight
Mod Mat K is the man!
Mat K is the man. Can’t imagine how osrs is doing without him.
I know Matt K has left but man he is still my favorite. What a cool guy.
If bots ended tomorrow I’d be glad i got all my 99’s while the materials were “cheap” lol. People don’t ever appreciate what the bots do for the economy, as annoying as they are. 🤷♂️
That's fortunate for you. However this logic isn't really accurate. You appreciate the bots in this case because you benefitted from them due to their depreciation of in game material cost allowing you to accomplish more for less whilst another player who would have legitimately earned/looted those materials will then profit significantly less.
You'd be able to get the 99's even without the bots because all the items you grind for and sell would be worth more allowing you to purchase a 99 at a higher price but in around the same amount of time
@@MrMakoto2 Yeah people don't understand that the value scales pretty linearly.
Resources more expensive = Gold is more valuable = Nothing has really changed except you're now working with larger values.
Still waiting on you to come back Matt, 3k likes and counting
super interesting
Raikesy did good things with his old RWT money. But he doesn't know the guy that bought it sold his house for that blue p hat!
i trashed my 2203 total account with over 170 days played because every gp i make is gone to the duel arena. such a bad aspect of the game, but he does have a great point when talking about it preventing people from going down even worse paths
the economy without bots would be so much more balanced - a lot of good moneymakers for skillers, because now even 99 runecrafting is just plain garbage when you can afk gargs or anything like that, lol.
I wish that day would come reality..
The thing is that while basic moneymakers would profit more, the prices of everything would go up. So you make more money, but whatever you want is also more expensive.
“Whenever I’m in Los Angeles, Ice Poseidon asks if I wanna come have a beer. *(punchline, wait for it)*…. But I’ve been too.. **scared to** “
Interviewers: “ah..”
Wtf. This just set the mood for the whole cast lmao. U guys good errrr??
750, 1000 likes, Mod Mat so humble
mod mat had to have some sort of say ini the music cape emote
Such an amazing podcast boys, all of you did really well taking your time and letting Mod Mat K speak.
Have him on again & look forward to Rendi next month! Big ups
This is sarcasm right? I'm 30 minutes in and they havent let Mat finish one thought. This is almost unbearable
100% glad i watched this cus i geeked out at the c++ and machine cloud stuff (my field). Yea the incorrect bans suck as someone who got stuck in one. but I do appreciate that they are trying to not ban players and can get 98% success rather than 80%. because I would have probably lost all 4 of my accounts rather than just 1. Though I got a little salty about how I can't contact anyone and it was unappealable, despite recording what I was doing and I couldn't tell anyone. I hate bots more than average player but I wasn't botting and could prove it. Because let's be honest, their support SUCKS. first time watching this and i did like it.
Kinda funny mod Matt k called what would happen if the duel arena was gone
Mat K. is the godfather of osrs and will always have a special place in the game.
damn, he called the current deathmatch meta for gambling post duel arena removal
Jagex should rework pvm drops and skilling. Bosses should only drop uniques and skilling should be yhe main activity to gather resource. Upgrade how much ressource you can farm per hour with the same xp rate (each resource give less xp but same xp/hour)
I’d be down for this
Done. We removed every other drop, from now on the drop rates of unique will remain the same, but all non unique items are removed. We reduced XP gained per collected resource to match acquisition rate. Sincerely Jamflex
Make every boss into nightmare, hmm, slunds miserable.
Fuck this shit almost makes me cry, so beautiful boys this episode is like my Version of the movie the notebook. Make me proud to be RuneScape player
2.2k likes boys mod mat k is coming back to fix pvp!
I wanna hear him talk about Durial321& zezima!
@2:43:37 it was 750 to fix the wildy and 1k to delete bots iirc
Great video, but one note if I may. Allow the guest to finish his comment before asking another question/commenting on what he said. Over talking a lot in the video.
Love the podcast but this episode needed a volume levels check, Mod Mat K seemed to be louder than the rest (unless it's just my speakers)
how would it be just your speakers if there are 4 people talking simultaneously