TREK ÉMONDA 2021 | GREATEST OF ALL TIME? | BEST IN RANGE? | BIKOTIC
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- In this video we check out the 2021 Trek Émonda, compare it to the 2020 Émonda, Trek Madone 2020, Specialized Tarmac and Giant TCR - Then we have a look through all the versions of the 2021 Trek Émonda range and compare them against each other to see which is best value. At the end of the video we compare price point data from the Émonda's competitors:
00:47 Scott Addict RC
00:49 Focus Izalco Max
00:51 Cannondale Supersix EVO
00:52 Orbea ORCA
00:54 Wilier Zero SLR
01:29 Specialized Tarmenge (Tarmac/Venge concept)
01:33 New Tarmac???
01:43 Trek Émonda SLR 9 eTap 2021
04:31 Trek Émonda SLR 9 eTap 2020
05:30 Trek Madone 7.7 2014
05:50 Trek Madone SLR 9 2020
07:03 Specialized Tarmac 2020
07:22 Giant TCR Advanced SL 0 eTap
07:59 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX 9.0 eTap
09:32 Trek Émonda SLR 9 2021
09:53 Trek Émonda SLR 7 eTap 2021
10:30 Trek Émonda SLR 7 2021
10:56 Trek Émonda SLR 6 2021
11:35 Trek Émonda SL 7 eTap 2021
12:43 Trek Émonda SL 7 2021
13:06 Trek Émonda SL 6 PRO 2021
13:41 Trek Émonda SL 6 2021
14:08 Trek Émonda SL 5 2021
14:57 Giant TCR Advanced 2
16:10 COMPETITOR PRICE POINT DATA ANALYSIS - Sport
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Without ever riding the bikes too.... come on!
I really enjoy these videos. I find the manufacturers selection in even describing their collection to be in scrutable. Having an actual picture on picture examples of before and after is really invaluable. This is a extremely underrated channel. Thank you and keep up the great videos.
I have just ordered the SL7 Etap mostly because of the gearing. I am setting it up with a 46/33 crank and 10-36 cassette. Coming from a 50/34 and 11/34 I actually gain on both ends and especially on the climbing end. Since this is a birthday present for my 70th I am gonna be needing all the climbing help I can get!
Spending ages trying to get everything on the cockpit nicely lined up ... story of my life !
Got everything lined up on my bike
What an excellent video. Really well put together comparisons. Can't tell you the last time I sat all the way through 19 minutes of CZcams without a ffwd double click or two, possibly never before!
Great review as usual, keep them coming.
Really nice overview, its amazing too see the difference of the top to bottom emonda!
First video I've seen of yours Bikotic. I searched 'Emonda vs Domane' and this was at the top. Instant subscribe.. love the honesty and realness.
Love your comprehensive comparisons.
Wow! Great breakdown, very detailed! Thanks
Great video. I love Trek myself but your value chart at the end got me thinking, especially as my working budget is similar to yours.
Great vid as always! Man I love that new emonda!
Damn!! This review just made my life so easy!! Thanx!! Great Vid!
Great review and comparisons between models.
Great video, love the humour.
The graphic at the end is terrific data to look at all at once, thanks!!!
Is it possible to get a link to that graph?
I enjoyed your video. You always manage to hit all of the points other people miss. I currently own the 2015 Madone you pictured (so you’re correct), and I was amazed to see how that bike and the current 2021 Emonda are similar shaped. I’ve been riding a Giant TCR since 2017 and I haven’t gone back to Trek. #1 reason- Trek replacement parts are too damn expensive. Both brands are great, but I need more persuasive improvements in order for me to return to Trek. Perhaps then I will ignore the pricey parts. Keep the videos coming....
WOW. Excellent video and super detailed ! Thanks. Instant subscriber here 🤙
Great content as always.
This Trek is really looking great. Let’s wait to see the new Tarmac, then I will make my choice 💸💸
First of all...I loved your British accent...! Great work once again....!
Great video, subscribed.
Fantastic video. Thanks.
Émonda SLR6, definetly, I know it's more pricey compared to some of its competitors but I just love the aestethics of it. I'm planning on buying one, hoping for a price drop after next season...
I love trek.. im getting the heaviest Emonda SL5 soon!
I bought a size 56 SL5 in Quicksilver. The last one in the UK until November. It looks even better than photos.
Heavy? Compared to my E5 Diverge, no. Also more comfortable and quicker.
Swapped out saddle, instant comfort improvement.
Then I swapped in my “road wheels” from the divvie. Budget alloy rimmed 40mm Fulcrum 400s with 28mm Conti GP4000s - Even more comfortable and quicker. Plus it looks the absolute BUSINESS. Weenies gonna hate? Not my problem, I’ll be too busy riding my bike.
Thanks for the vids, love your content and style!
How tall are you? Just ordered a 56 I’m 180cm. Went off the size guide and at no point would any chart fit me on a 54. Yet see a few people going on saying 54 is better and the seat mast on the 56 is too large? Coming off a large enduro mtb so I’m hoping I’ll be alright on the 56 as none left in the uk!
@@overweightbadger im 5'11 -180cm sized up on a 56 too big as there isn't alot of adjustment in the seat post. Sat on a 54 felt better. Ordered in Blue - Hopefully coming in April 🤞
@@davidpage3636 I've been fine on my 56 tbf. Not got the saddle all the way down, probably at the end of my reach on 100mm stem though so gonna try a 90mm just to bring my bars a bit closer at some point. I think with a 54 I would have had to mess about getting a longer seat post an stem to make it fit rather than just the stem on the 56! Hope yours doesn't get delayed it's an amazing bike can't wait for the weather to warm up 😂
Ive got the SL7 di2 and had the one piece SLR bars fitted and love it ,,a great all round bike ,,the best bike I’ve had
one of the best bike reviews/comparisons I've ever seen on the interwebs 👍👍👍 yeah, The new trek emonda is gorgeous 🤤🤤🤤 a bit surprised with the weight though.
Another terrific video with well thought out explanations of the details of the bike, as usual, and your assessment of it. My first impression was also that this Emonda was reminiscent
of the former Madone. The one disappointment for me on this bike is the disc only option - I'm still not ready for a disc-brake road bike. I'm also OCD with fit/setup. Thanks!
Additionally, I thought it was interesting to see that the SRAM Force models are heavier than the cheaper Ultegra mech/Di2 options.
Thank you for this nicely done video!
I was searching your videos and I have not found a similar video for best value endurance bike. Hope you will consider doing one. :D
Just picked up my 2021 Emonda SL7 w\ power meter, stock no upgrades yet it weights 18.0 lbs with Look Keo carbon pedals. Love this bikes.
The Canyon you chose is a nice bike for the price! Im considering the model above or possibly a Ribble enduro. Great vids keep it up bro
Giant's the best !! Design's and makes their bikes 100% themselves even the carbon and aluminum !!
I love the graph the gives weight in association price comparisons, a real eye opener. Looking for a decent climbing bike right now, giant tcr 1 is in the lead. Dream bike...7kgs 50x34 and 11x34. Di2 Ultegra. Tubeless, small frame size, threaded bb, €5,000 budget.
Bought the bike, sl version, the cable are stille unbeleavable tucked awau, very Nice work.
Agree with you regarding the Canyon website and the need to refresh their road bikes. That being said I did buy an Ultimate CF SLX earlier this year and absolutely love it, and I think in 'person' it is a lot better looking than their site does it justice. However, this Emonda looks so much nicer in my opinion, its beautiful.
Very nice review. Best graphics I’ve ever seen.
Going from rim brakes to disc is going to be expensive. I have gone down the long road of buying a complete bike to upgrades to new frame sets and going over to disc would just start that whole process again which I don’t think I want to go down that path.
If your new to cycling then yes buy the best frame set with the cheapest components. You can always upgrade later and move those components over time.
Good question regarding the seat post mast.
The Trek is way too heavy in the “affordable” pricerange. It does look nice tho! I think I would go for the giant TCR advanced pro series; good wheels, a powermeter included and a light frame. Shame of the cable routing... New Cannondales 2021 €500 up in price?! Expensive handlebars! Curious about the new Tarmac. Keep the video’s coming; really enjoyable 👍
Well it is not only about the weight, aero is also a major factor
I just purchased the emonda sl6 with full Ultegra for $3299 and a weight of around 17.5 lbs. To me for the price, it is light. If i decide to upgrade the wheels, i will drop another pound on the bike. I thought it was a great deal. Plus you gotta look at even though it might be a little heavier than the competitors and a little more expensive, it has way better aerodynamics compared to those jabrone bikes. The TCR looks like a kids toy compared to the emonda
“Aero” is just another marketing thing... ofcource it does help in the overall speed and look of the bike, but the most important aero influence is the way you sit on the bike! The couple of watts saved by the frame is nothing compared to the rider. The bike on which you sit the deepest in the most comfortable way will be the most “aero”! I do like the way aero bikes look and we all know how cycling is all about appearance 😉.
@@marijnsnijders9731 aero with a round downtube right? Emonda is supposed to be the lightweight bike in the range and a bit crazy that they got it down to 4kg range many years back and it's twice as heavy again....
@@TheKauaiboyz51 Settle down fanboy, each to their own.
Bought the TCR Advanced 2 last year, swapped out the wheels for high end alloy, upgraded to a lighter seat, upgraded to carbon handlebars; It's now close to 7kg. Whatever bike you are buying, if you are planning any sort of upgrades, just buy the cheap model and upgrade it yourself for far less money.
I have the sl7 etap . Cant wait to do some climbing
Canyon and giant would be my choices. All around, light, stiff and aero and more cheap than other brands.
So far yes but waiting to see what the tarmac is when released.
@@DanTuber well it will be expensive as hell so you'll be able to get a better specced, lighter canyon or giant for the same price
I just find Canyon just a bit dull. Like really dull....
Especially when you get a second hand deal because they are similar over the years
2 years ago the Emonda was almost a whole kg lighter. Really hard to get excited about climbing bikes these days.
I guess disc brakes are better if you want to run carbon wheels full time....but they sure do add a lot of weight. I think it is almost 1kg extra for the disc hardware.
@@chrisgilligan4968 For me the mayor draw of carbon wheels on a pure climbing bike are the aesthetics. No unsightly aluminum breaking strip. With discs you don't have those, and there light shallow section aluminum wheels for relatively cheap. Kind of misses the purpose of carbon anyways.
What a great video. Really liked the comparisons
Really useful for looking at the second hand market now
I have the SL5 and I LOVE IT ! I would never go back to rimbrakes :-O
And the weight.. Its kinda ' heavy' but if i take a crap before going out riding I kinda lose a kilogram so xD
Great review.. I have the Canyon Ultimate Evo, ETAP with power meter and it weighs a shade over 6kgs, so it's the lightest bike and the best value of the high end bikes..
I stand corrected my bike is the version 10 which is lighter than the version 9 that you reviewed but still 6kgs which beats the Giant in terms of weight and value..
Nice video once again. Just ordered Emonda SLR 6 in dark blue / red Segafredo colours. With the evergreen Ultegra it is 7.26kg. Agree with everything you said.
Was your head not turned to get the slr7 for the di2 version....?
I am looking at slr6 vs slr7 too... but probably through project one to get the new aoelus wheels
@@MichaelBoogerd hi. Prefer mechanical shifting for simplicity. I have the Aeolus Elite wheels just 200 grams more than Aeolus Pro. For a 500 gram weight penalty, the saving was £4500!! I’m not good enough to ride a £10k bike. It’s stiff though. I replaced R3 tyres at 25mm with Schwalbe Pro One in 28mm tlr- ride is pretty good now. Lots of choice at this price range.
Love that disc rub
I've used a plumb line as well as the carpet as a perpendicular guide for bars it satisfies the ocd a little
A carpenter’s angle gauge is an effective way to line up those angles nicely
Can you do this style of video for the new 2021 Pinarello Prince range? - Compared to the old 2020 Prince, The F8 / F10 Dogma and maybe even the F12 - be a nice comparison to see what it offers compared to the top end Pinarello's.
Superb review. Pl put up a DOMANE Comparison too. Thanks
Ordered the SL 7 etap. Can’t wait to ride, comes in on Friday
Update: weighs 17 flat without pedals and is an absolute monster. Did a 10 mile test run and beat my pr on that segment by 2 mph (16.3 vs 14 on undulating terrain that maxes out at 10% grade) vs a Look 585 Campy super récord that weighs 14.5 lbs. Incredible.
Ya I ordered one also! In the 50 size. First the bike store got my order wrong with the wrong color so they kept that one. And now I'm being told I have to wait until Thursday for delivery!
Your be disappointed I bought sl5 had the new carbon wheels rc 37 di2 ultegra still weighs 8 kg with pedals now selling as it’s not quick at all going back to a giant tcr
@@terrychalk1982 sometimes gear isn't all, it's also up to the riders strength.
I built my 2020 Emonda with SRM Power/Campagnolo Super Record and ENVE 3.4 SES wheels. i Run a cheaper 11-32 cassette (i live in the Rocky Mountains) and a 50/34 crank. Frame is 58cm and total weight with saddle and pedals is 14.4lbs ... i love the bike. All in i believe i was around $8k by buying the frame and all components separately.
i need that goat with aero helmet sticker!! right now!!
“Never borrow money to buy something that’s going to depreciate in value.” Kiplinger’s Personal Finance
😭😭😭😱
Fuckin hilarious! Best/ most entertaining review. Earned a subscribed ! 👍🏻
Oh and I ride the Sram Force groupset on my 2020 Scott Addict RC. It's a good groupset but not without faults. Mine sometimes has trouble going from the 5th to the 4th cog in the rear. Also had a couple chaindrops at the front (stopped happening once I installed the Sram chaincatcher). Lastly, the Force cassette is super rattly. The RED cassette is supposed to be a lot more quite !
For the money they cost, should be zero problems.
I'm not going to chime in on all the weight/not aero discussion, just give my observations on the slr7 I have been putting kilometers on. The bike feels super. Stiff, responsive. The carbon eats the lumps and bumps of the road. Accelerates just by thinking about it. Still not sold on the Sram Etap. It seems a bit squirrelly....that is to say, I am constantly readjusting the front derailleur. I style myself as a climber/solo break type of rider, and it really suits me. Just my thoughts.
Handle bar OCD.... nailed it!!!
Love the Giant Advanced 2... and your upgrades for the $ it is the lick but I would go Giant Advanced Pro rim brake Ultegra $3500 USD , under 7kg includes power meter and no wheel upgrade needed....
Last week I drove a couple hours to a shop that had the 105 equipped model in my size, my daily ride (80's vintage Trek Reynolds 531 bike, probably older than many of your viewers) in the car for side by side comparison. Checkbook in hand, I went in hoping to really like the Emonda after all I'd read.
Weight didn't feel that different, I learned after the fact there was only about a kilo difference new versus my ride. Ride of the Emonda would probably have been less buzzy had they set up the wheels tubeless and lower pressure than 28s with tubes pumped to 100 psi. Braking and shifting were better than the old stuff I was riding, although after many years on the same bike I seldom miss shifts with the downtube friction shifters.
Other than the fact the cockpit wasn't my preference for reach and drop, there wasn't a hill of beans difference in acceleration, cruise, or turning between old and new.
I don't think I'd climb the punchy hills in my area any faster on the new bike. Maybe I'd take the descents faster with the better brakes allowing later braking on the turns, maybe not.
I left without the new bike, still keeping an eye out for something a step function better than what I have at less than used car prices.
Thanks for the comment Kenneth - agree with a lot of what you say....what I would say is checkout the video NorCal made where they compare a high spec Tarmac against a low spec tarmac, there is a large speed difference between the two. Without testing the way they did you might not notice judging by feel.....of course depending how close you are to a Pro rider determines how large you perceive the difference to be - even a fraction of a second would interest a pro. So, its all relative I guess.....
Ordered an SLR7 recently but removed the power meter (already have power pedals) and upgraded to the top of the range wheels, seat and went for ceramic bearing. Came in at £7500 with Project One. I think I've got the best of both the SLR7 and SLR9, the only real difference is eTap Force instead of Red which I can definitely live with.
All of the etap bikes come with a power meter out of the box. I think that's pretty nice.
4:17 the bike is not perfectly centred from above. you can see it with your center line with the tire + frame. that's why
I would buy slr madone mechanic ultegra. and got nice seapost, and aero stearing bars.
Would you recommend the Emonda sl5 or upgrading directly to the SL6 ? Knowing the only difference is Ultegra vs Shimano 105 (and the weight about 1kg)
Agree with you on Canyon website, the new site look horrendous compared to the old one.
To me the Trek Emonda SLR 9, Dura Ace Di2 version is one of, if not the best road bike on the planet! I like my big ring to be at least 52. Anything less is limiting to me in a race situation.
The SL and SLR 7 in eTap come w/ a power meter, while the Ultegra alternatives do not
Did consider the scaled back version of this Trek but went with the TCR Advanced Pro 1 - think it’s a better bike and has far more about it that the likes of Canyon which are dull and never catch attention. The new Tarmac looks lush but being a bigger rider I didn’t want dropped seat stays. My current previous generation Tarmac just vibrates too much and is a harsh ride. Can’t wait for disc brakes. Also, think the TCR, for the money and quality of the frame and wheels and added duel power meter, I think it could well be Bike of the Year.
What would you suggest.. I am looking for a relatively aero daily use bike preferably with disc brake around 2700 usd.. Trek sl5 or giant tcr?
Canyon due for a full update, Shimano due for an update, Trek speed concept due for an update... I think some stuff has been put on hold due to Covid that was going to be released this year. I would get the Trek SRL7... when the new Shimano 12 speed is released
The SL force etap come with a power meter, that why its more expensive than the Di2 SL model
whats your thought between the new aeroad and this bike now? (also now that the new tarmac has been out a while)
Wasn't 'descending like a beast' the main selling point of fitting disc brakes to climbing bikes in the first place? I understand now, after all, why manufacturers are going all disc because no one can please you lot.
-That's it ! I've had enough of this, you only get discs brakes and that's the end of it !!
But daaad...!! -
Hey:) i want to buy a new bike and am kinda between the trek domane sl5 2021 and a ultimate or endurace from canyon for around the same price or lower with also 105. No clue what would be the best long term buy. The bike is meant for flat roads here in the netherlands. But a short bike packing adventure would be a plus if possible. Thanks:)
I looove the red Emonda, but I'd probably buy a tarmac or a tcr or a canyon once they update the dinosaur aged frames.
Wouldn't it be worth talking about Aero advantages though? I know Trek specifically said the aero advantage made the increase in weight worth it. Just a thought.
Gavin the goat said the 2020 sl6 disc in radar red was and still is the goat ...
If it isn't broken dont fix it 😊
TCR ADVANCED PRO 1 DISC
Ordered mine. Different level. Bike of the Year easy.
Mr Zazovia it’s a turn of phrase really, but the weight to stiffness ratio is higher than any bike at that price range (and higher than the 2019 Tarmac S Works, for example), better wheels than the Tarmac, twin power meters for same as the Tarmac, looks far nicer (IMO) than the Trek, which, along with the Specialized Tarmac for 2021 have a colour scheme that would get boring or you just wouldn’t want. I think the cable routing on the £4K+ Tarmac is neater, but is similar to the TCR for the £3.5k price bike. As I’m a heavier rider I don’t like the dropped rear stays after a number of incidents with down tubes breaking under force. I’m 117kg, so that is important to me. See, a different level ;-)
Mr Zazovia yes, there certainly are... and at these prices you need to get it right. Of course, I’m not saying I’m right, but since ordering (December delivery) Bike Radar have done a few reviews with David Arthur and he seems to rate it.
Great analysis to ‘discover’ the best value bike. All the way Canyon! Great bikes at even greater prices.
yep, full out aero light disc frames 6.8 kg bikes for pro's. Like the jumbo visma team, one road bike to rule all road races
Im checking basso venta 2022 and 2021. Looks like it can compete with canyon
@12:30 can one just upgrade to a integrated handlebar? Or would it not fit this kinda of bike?
I went with the SL 7 eTap, mainly because I wanted to try eTap, and it comes with a power meter at that price, which is pretty good. The weight difference between the SL and the SLR doesn't amtter to me.
Wjat do u think of it. ??
@@harrydelaney6623 The SL 7 never showed up, and it didn't look like it would be coming any time soon, so I ordered a Project One SLR 7, which arrived in November '20. I like it a lot - I really like the eTap, and the built-in power meter is nice to have. I changed the headset from the one-piece to a standard bar so I could have more adjustability.
I only have 3,000 miles on it yet, but so far it's all good.
@@davidmulligan42 ahh deadly some bike that..I have the sl6 e tap 2022 it’s some machine ..ye built in power meter is great but I’m lookinj for a good computer now to pare with it
@@harrydelaney6623 I'm just using a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt - does everything I need :)
Trying to decide between this and the BMC Teammachine, any advice? And oh, I can’t get these bikes to test ride, I have to directly place an order.
that's the problem! Hard to chose between those 2, both great bikes - at least that makes it hard to get wrong! Check the weights though, the cheaper Emonda's are heavy
If a top end aero bike is over 7.3kg it is too aero and too heavy.
When i watched the GCN pro bike weight I was amazed how heavy pro bikes were so heavy( some close to 8kg) which doesn’t make sense considering you are going hardest on the hills so that’s when you want the advantage right?
I have hard time to decide between emonda and Domane SL5 can you help different them from each other … and if it’s your bike which one you go for thank you
If you want racy go Emonda, if you want endurance road bike comfort go Domane
Canyon Ultimate still the best performance mid range bike for me
What do you think about Vitus brand bikes? Looking at the Vitus Zenium CRS
Sorry Francisco, don't know much about Vitus - will take a look at them sometime and maybe make a video
My P1 SLR7 with Force is on order. About 80 days out.
Matt Shrader 80 days to arrive?..
Sean Chin Yes Sean. As crazy as that sounds, frame (52 cm) originates in Asia making its way to Wisconsin for paint and final assembly. Trek’s ordering system gave the dealer and me a promised ship date of 9/28. Covid19 obviously impacted bringing the bikes to market. Larger frames are 30-45 days.
@@sprintkick9793 damn I'm prob gonna be a 50cm...maybe even longer
PS what paint job did you get?
I believe that the sram force has a Powermeter on it so Di2 isn’t cheaper You’d have to add a Powermeter for 1000.-
How is the carbon emonda 105 way heavier than the aluminum 105 canyon endurance bike
You got my attention when you said 2021 weighs more than the 2020 ....strange. Did the price go down?
It looks cool, yet all bikes look nice since I love to ride... I'll stick with my bikes instead of disc brake
Is Trek selling the framesets alone?
Canyon's pricing is different from others. They mail the bike to you, and take out the middlemen. A little worrysome if you have to spend thousands on a product which you haven't had access to, and believe for warranty, you have to pack and send back.
If it were not for the UCI rule book, we would have some wild bikes that weight barely more than the group set and tires
my best and only bike is tiagra and the shifters feel great