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Hookless Fail or Tubeless Win?
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In this video, we dive into a fascinating and somewhat alarming experience with a hookless rim and tire combination that left me with more questions than answers. Join me as I recount Jo Shillabeer's unexpected race day dilemma and the surprising outcome. Despite losing pressure in his front tire, Jo managed to finish his race with a nearly 27 mph average speed. We examine his wheel setup and discuss the implications of using hookless rims. I also share insights from a conversation with a representative from Pacenti, the manufacturer of Jo's wheels. If you've had similar experiences or have any advice on hookless rims, please share your thoughts in the comments below. Let's get this discussion started!
Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction and video overview
0:16 - Introducing Jo Shillabeer and his race
0:27 - Joe's tire issue during the race
0:40 - Joe's surprising race performance
0:55 - Examination of Jo's wheel setup
1:17 - Detailed look at Jo's hookless rim and tire
1:50 - Conversation with Pacenti about the wheel issue
2:25 - Confusion about tire and rim compatibility
3:00 - Encouraging viewer discussion and comments
3:10 - Personal thoughts on hooked vs. hookless rims
3:19 - Promoting upcoming comparison videos
3:50 - Overview of the bikotic.com website
4:06 - Closing remarks and call to action
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Komentáře

  • @jimmyz5831
    @jimmyz5831 Před 8 dny

    Interest free credit?? Not in the states. I just got a good deal on a used Roubaix with carbon wheels. Would not give up discs. Wonderful bike for long rides. Can put up to 35mm tires on 2023, 40mm on 2024 if you like.

  • @LukeHumphreys-t7o
    @LukeHumphreys-t7o Před 10 dny

    Pacenti recommends compatible tyres. Sadly not all compatible tyres are made equally and in my 5 plus years we have been making hookless rims there is one clear winner when it comes to tyre compatibility and margin of safety that’s the schwalbe pro one. I have tested in tank and it really world a huge number of tyres in conjunction with our rims. Hookless rims will only grow in mass manufacture I believe Giant now have all hookless rims supplied on their bikes that come with carbon rims. The GP5000STR has a max rating of 73psi so this example pumped to 70psi was very close to that max with little to no margin for error in the pump gauge or consideration for the effects on pressure of heat. My advice is hookless rims are safe and great to ride however do your homework and listen to those in the know regards tyres and look for a higher margins for error in Max psi

  • @rickyfeather
    @rickyfeather Před 10 dny

    I’ve been using these rims for 3 years now and never had an issue. Put GP5000 tr on a set for a customer and they blew off the rim before he’d even ridden the bike with 68psi in them. Also, Zipp recently made a compatibility chart and GP5000 tr are one of only a couple of tyres to not make it. I’ve used Schwalbe Pro 1, Schwalbe Pro 1 TT, Vittoria Corsa Pro and Pirelli on the road on Pacenti Picco 46 with no issues. 3 types of Pirelli tyre for gravel, also never had a problem.

  • @BaharehK
    @BaharehK Před 11 dny

    Amazing explanation! Detailed and easy to understand especially with all the visual demonstrations! Thank you so much

  • @DiRicher
    @DiRicher Před 11 dny

    There is no control console for a cylon raider. They are a being within themselves. Hijacked raiders have been piloted from within by manipulating tendons and the nervous system. But no control console to speak of.

  • @aaaahahahahahah4300
    @aaaahahahahahah4300 Před 18 dny

    To me it looks like canyon sizing is too big. Almost the same geo as my Venge. 😂

  • @l2_chiken_wing862
    @l2_chiken_wing862 Před 19 dny

    The M models are the Carbon ones and the H which stands for Hydro in spanish are the alloy ones

  • @jamesmatheson9624
    @jamesmatheson9624 Před 22 dny

    Because I have limited knowledge of bikes I can't do this project maybe you can Gears were meant to be put on a wheel for you to exercise your arms same as a leg arm Exerciser So when you move the wheel with your arms you start at a light weight and after a certain number of turns you increase the gears strength so your arms moves a heavier weight This is how people get muscles They lift small weights and then heavy weights The advantage of wheel with gears is you don't need the weights and can put on muscles anywhere Let me know if you understand Thanks for the video

  • @evgenywhitenights
    @evgenywhitenights Před 27 dny

    Nice job! Thanks a lot

  • @hockysa
    @hockysa Před 29 dny

    Yeah I’m glad when I bought my rims I still bought hooked despite running hookless at that time. I’m now back on tubes.

  • @ZemHamwi
    @ZemHamwi Před 29 dny

    i went into this very confused and i left even more confused, tnx

  • @bubbachua
    @bubbachua Před 29 dny

    Hookless wheel manufacturers who can’t make wheels that work with all tires are crap

  • @lordkambing810
    @lordkambing810 Před měsícem

    tubeless with an insert is efn s2pd

  • @StanEby1
    @StanEby1 Před měsícem

    I'm hardly hooked on hookless.😊

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f Před měsícem

    Hookless is for suckers. Stop buying it so it goes away!

  • @andrew300169
    @andrew300169 Před měsícem

    Just spent ages checking that my wheels were hooked because there was hardly any information on line, there must have been some nasty accidents.

  • @markrskinner
    @markrskinner Před měsícem

    That's bonkers 😳 Off the top of my head, BMC's new road machine and the new Orbea Orca are rife for comparisons.

  • @olegkurovsky3198
    @olegkurovsky3198 Před měsícem

    another horror story about hookless based on assumption...

  • @user-cu7cn1km7i
    @user-cu7cn1km7i Před měsícem

    With hookless, you will have great results as long as you check the manufactures recommendation for what tires and sizes are approved. Manufactures like Enve and Zipp have online calculators to determine the correct pressure. Most have a maximum pressure limit of 72 psi, there’s no reason to go anywhere near that pressure. Follow the guidelines for when to add additional Sealant. Typically the people that have issues with tubeless failed to follow one of those requirements/recommendations.

  • @JonFairhurst
    @JonFairhurst Před měsícem

    The bead on that tire is really shallow. I run Schwalbe Pro One TLE on ENVE rims, and I can’t imagine that happening with that combo. They aren’t easy to remove! The win with hookless is that if you lose pressure on a rough road, the wheel can withstand a beating, until you realize the problem and stop for repair. Is the problem hookless or Continental on hookless? I have yet to see a Schwalbe/ENVE hookless failure, but if others have links to such a failure, I’m interested in seeing it.

  • @LittleJulio.
    @LittleJulio. Před měsícem

    Interesting vid, love the website. Hate the cartoonish AI images.

  • @JibbaJabber
    @JibbaJabber Před měsícem

    I would hazard the real problem is software and not hardware related! 'Hard' racing post deflation methinks. He now has one less life. 💀

  • @dalewarner6865
    @dalewarner6865 Před měsícem

    Using not the recommended tyres, inflated to max pressure, lost pressure and still carried on racing at max speed.... is the main reason why we have safety issues. If you can race 100% safely at full speed with hooked rums with wrong tyres inflated to max pressure then its a fail for the equipment ... But I'm not so sure...

  • @alex.pozgaj
    @alex.pozgaj Před měsícem

    Very informative video, thank you! I have to join in on the "please drop the AI stuff" crowd though. Your videos don't need that kind of cheap "improvement", they would work great even if you talked with the black only background. 😁

  • @montrose252
    @montrose252 Před měsícem

    Only ride hookless if you want to make your dentist rich!

    • @aeonsnarfus
      @aeonsnarfus Před měsícem

      So a dentist on a fancy road bike with hookless rims making another dentist rich. I love the recursion. Toothless dentists everywhere, riding fast.

    • @saxon1376
      @saxon1376 Před měsícem

      Wow your so funny

    • @montrose252
      @montrose252 Před měsícem

      @@saxon1376 you're

  • @turner02
    @turner02 Před měsícem

    hookless is a fail

    • @ericpmoss
      @ericpmoss Před 29 dny

      It's great for wide tires <40psi, but the tires and rims do have to adhere to dimensional standards, and that means the bead shelf has to be correct.

    • @mynock250
      @mynock250 Před 29 dny

      Serves no purpose makes wheels cheaper and easier to manufacture, but that cheaper cost is never passed down to the consumer.

  • @stuartbird5139
    @stuartbird5139 Před měsícem

    The idea that you spend over £1k on wheels and you can only use one specific tyre is absurd and is another example of modern bike tech getting worse. Also, a minor point but I really dislikes the AI "art" used in this video. I don't like to be negative but at least it's constructive

  • @Al.2
    @Al.2 Před měsícem

    Hookless my ass.

  • @valiantabello
    @valiantabello Před měsícem

    Dude almost died holy hell. I cannot believe that Paccenti is forcing their customers to buy ONE brand of tires. What if I'm somewhere else, and I slash my Schwalbe tire and the local bike shop doesn't carry the TL version? What then? I'm fucked? Why? What's the logic here? Hookless is ridiculous and the bike industry is immature to an insane degree

    • @JibbaJabber
      @JibbaJabber Před měsícem

      Time to wheelie all the way home.

  • @robertkeefer1552
    @robertkeefer1552 Před měsícem

    No hookless wheels for this guy!!

  • @arose62
    @arose62 Před měsícem

    "SUNBSCRIBE" 😂 for when you want to subscribe, and yet unsubscribe, at the same time.

  • @3ull
    @3ull Před měsícem

    Awesome tool. Can we get the option of adding new bikes that are private to the user? Would be awesome.

  • @agadasamuel8237
    @agadasamuel8237 Před měsícem

    I wish I can like this video 100x very interesting

  • @lazaronimer7118
    @lazaronimer7118 Před měsícem

    so good!

  • @SvenfromKiel
    @SvenfromKiel Před měsícem

    Excellent and very interesting..thanks! I also had a on one inbred + Cotic and was very happy with it but unfortunately buying a bike from planet x or another bike from UK is much too expensive now for me living in germany and Canyon is not sooo far away from me. My Favourite is the Grizl because of price and flexibility with Cockpit but the geometry is very long compared to my old cx bike and there are also other interesting candidates like Crux or a CFR 696 with "old geometry" for an old man...Cheers..

  • @masonbridgewater8109
    @masonbridgewater8109 Před měsícem

    I've used rim and disc. I use disc brakes for part time and rim brakes for full time riding. Used bike would prefer disc brakes.

  • @sonson-ct9cm
    @sonson-ct9cm Před 2 měsíci

    Very detailed analysis 👍

  • @tomatokosir
    @tomatokosir Před 2 měsíci

    Can't wait for some new videos. I hope you are doing okay. Best regards from Slovenia!

    • @bikotic
      @bikotic Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks mate! I will be back 😁

  • @koko_5662
    @koko_5662 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice idea with the graph but it's wildly flawed. The biggest variation would be in body positions, wheels and then somewhere the frame. Air resistance is exponential - you would maybe gain a couple MPH max going from £999 to £12500.

  • @martinberry1540
    @martinberry1540 Před 2 měsíci

    Really useful for looking at the second hand market now

  • @brit-in-czech
    @brit-in-czech Před 2 měsíci

    My first bike arrived today. I am digesting as many useful videos as I can find. This helped me no end. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

  • @dougbbc
    @dougbbc Před 2 měsíci

    Agreed. Good video. So many questions. Hope to learn more

  • @dannyrussell3099
    @dannyrussell3099 Před 2 měsíci

    This bears absolutely ZERO resemblance to what I see on my Garmin when it comes to trying to download a GPX file!!

    • @bikotic
      @bikotic Před 2 měsíci

      This video is 6 years old, are you sure it's your Garmin version?

    • @dannyrussell3099
      @dannyrussell3099 Před 2 měsíci

      @@bikotic The video is Garmin Edge 800, as is my bike computer

    • @bikotic
      @bikotic Před 2 měsíci

      Fair play, sorry it didn't help

    • @dannyrussell3099
      @dannyrussell3099 Před 2 měsíci

      @@bikotic Its not your fault but shouldn't Garmin hang their heads in shame? If they had an ounce of intelligence then surely they would make products that DIDN'T need their customers to have to go to CZcams to find out how the hell their products worked? Man has the ability to land a probe on an asteroid (Benny) that is 2billion miles away after reaching speeds of 27,000 mph with its heatshield surviving temperatures of 5,300 degrees Fahrenheit. Wouldn't you expect that Garmin could produce a product where you open a GPX file, press a button and it downloads to your Edge? Farcical. Reminder to self - never buy a Garmin again

  • @sascha1778
    @sascha1778 Před 2 měsíci

    This video is an incredible piece of work. Well done!

  • @juststuff3267
    @juststuff3267 Před 2 měsíci

    2004 gets my vote.

  • @asqarsaypil
    @asqarsaypil Před 3 měsíci

    Great! What CAD package did you use ?