DIRT RALLY 2.0 VS DIRT 4 & DIRT RALLY - PHYSICS REVIEW
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Does dirt rally 2.0 drive better than dirt rally and dirt 4 ? in this video we talk about the handling differences between the rally games by Codemasters.
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The most common question we have been getting so here is the answer! - Dirt Rally fans I think will be very happy with this :)
No hair=No buy
finally have the game ? ;)
o yes
how can i calibrate my steering wheel ?
@GamerMuscleVideos, or why don't you compare it to Richard Burns Rally? You know, the most realistic simulator still? Oh, you bafoons don't know what that game is? ohhhh NEVERMIND~~ =(
wow you got straight into driving instead of messing about in a menu for 4 hours
He broke new ground!
Soooo true
I just got DiRT Rally 2.0 and only had time to play 25 minutes of it, but I am absolutely loving it! The cars have more weight to them, and you can actually control and car and keep it straight. In the old DiRT Rally I was scared to properly go fast because you'd easily lose it even on straights, the cars just felt light and floaty everywhere. But in DiRT Rally 2.0 I feel much more confident in the car, can feel the car is actually on the road, which makes for a much more enjoyable experience overall. I reckon it's more realistic. Codies have done a fantastic job!
I love your head, it fits your glasses!
im having the complete opposite experience.. if i go over 100km i completely lose control of the car. the steering becomes inconsistent. i cant tell what a turn is gonna do at speed. have been playing dirt rally 1 for about a year n and a half and don't have that issue
Been Microphone Maybe be a bit lighter on your right foot?
@@Streetw1s3r yeah that may be the case... i actually started in the porsche 911 with like 450hp, and so half way through the stages my engines takin quite a beating and actually drives much better now 😂
@Zwenk Wiel the Quattro sounds sooooo epic
Thanks for this! It's much better than reading comments on CZcams and reddit from people who've never actually played this yet criticize the realism.
do you remember in dirt rally the gravel along the side of the road in the Finland area was like concrete you would hit that and your car would fly up in the air that was crazy
yeah. it was awesome.
This is going to be 200% better when we get VR later :)
Still holding off on purchase till it does. I'm still not betting VR will be free
@@RamjetX why it wouldnt be? The situation is the same as with DR1, no vr was planned, Oculus put down some cash so Codies could make the VR patch and it was free for customers, same thing is happening now
@@majo2626 why wouldn't they charge for DLC?
you know it
@@RamjetX its not a DLC
Probably the most eloquent breakdown of how this title feels that I have watched so far. I wanted to get involved in DR2.0, now I feel like I need it. 10/10 man...great review.
Physics are improvement over DR. However, FFB is garbage. No roadfeel whatsoever, just bland resistance and SAT. I'm hoping it's some bug, feels like half of the FFB effects missing
yah i think its missing one of the effects for some reason.
Absolutely agree with this, where is the FFB ? Its so dull with little to no feeling. I spent 4 hours this morning tweaking the XML values to get more feeling, its still not perfect but much better steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1663123655
Codemaster same story Again and again... patch and patch...and not a little bug ...just ffb missing
I know im a year late but this is a rally sim. They have their wheels super light. There IS no road feel in a rally car.
Fantastic review dude, I love how you kept things straight to the point for the viewers instead of giving a half baked answer in the end like some other channels do. Enjoy!
Newer rally cars don't have traction control, I'm glad to hear you feel a difference when hitting the loud pedal. WRC drivers modulate the throttle quite a bit.
There are a tiny few things about Dirt Rally 2.0 that I don't like, and that I think Dirt 4 did better.
1. Co-driver call-outs. I prefer them calling the turn direction before the number; just a personal preference.
2. The stage ending. I miss being able to drive up to the marshal like in Dirt 4.
In the career mode you do drive to the marshal still, although it auto brakes to slow you down where Dirt 4 didn't
@@YogiTheBearMan Dirt 4 does that too when the Marshal comes into sight
Dirt had a big problem for me, where the clutches biting point was waaay too tight. It was basically clutch on or off. It meant that you couldn't half-way clutch to keep the revs up while going through hairpins, and the car would just stall in the middle of the corner. It was especially a big problem for the older cars that didn't have a whole lot of horsepowers to begin with.
I hope they've fixed that.
I think its mostly the same , to be honest I mostly drive faster cars or modern cars so itsnot something I pay to much atention to smashing in the gears and braking everything lol.
@@GamerMuscleVideos Okiedokie. It does look like they've fixed the grip levels for 2.0 though, so it's easier to keep the wheels spinning through a turn, so maybe it won't be much of an issue this time around. ^^
@@Sunesen not sure this is helpful but racing clutches like what would be on those historic-class rally cars are very "on-off"-y in real life, not like a street car clutch that you can massage. so maybe it is accurate, while also being frustrating. probably can be overcome with fine throttle modulation and selecting a lower gear and keeping the wheels spinning :) (i.e. drifting the tight corners, that's what the old masters did anyway)
@@dalton-at-work Yeah you are probably right. I didn't even know it was a thing until I researched it some more. It seems like a stupid thing for a rally car where its paramount to retain a high RPM through difficult situations, but thats like I guess.
To be honest though, I've found this to be much less of an issue in Dirt Rally 2.0. The cars are much easier to slide sideways on the dirt and keep the wheels spinning, even with the older cars, so thats that I guess. ^^
@@Sunesen you would never do what you said you were trying to do in real life. Slipping the clutch that way makes them explode and destroys the clutch. What you should do is bang down to a lower gear, hold in clutch, ebrake, then dump the clutch while pegging the throttle to the floor the whole time to get the car around hairpins. Not every time obviously,
Dont slip a clutch. They let out the magic smoke then explode. Some people have almost lost their feet irl by exploding clutches from slipping them hard
dirt rally 1 (2015) is the best one in my opinion
Meh, I have both so it doesn’t really matter to me. I can just keep switching. 🙂
Whenever I finished a stage in Dirt Rally 1 I'd call my parents to tell them I was ok
Why?
Dirt Rally 1 is better from DR 2.0 imo.
More realistic feeling and feedback from the car in Dirt Rally 1. Much much better co driver and much better graphics.
Agreed! Still the best codemasters have made and a shame it wasnt expanded on with more courses.
Oh, oh...there's a New Zealand section. I thought I recognized the fauna of home!! Sign me up, despite the minor faults!
Everything is great from where i'm sitting. I can't argue with that. What I can argue about is whether Codemasters really thinks it's good value for money. Basing it on DR, which had the same lacklustre content i'd say no way. I'll wait for a year and get it cheaper with all the extra DLC thanks Codies!
The deluxe version just dropped to $40 for August!
I just got the game from ebay (ten quid) and all four year one season DLCs for 20 quid. There aren't any year twos. Well worth it - two years later
Thank you for the well said critique. I was almost raising my perception/opinion of this game, but then I stumbled on a RBR video.
- Lack of sense of speed. It's fast, but non-variable. All turns are equal? It feels like you take tight corners as fast as fast turns. There's no sliding over a ridge into a blind corner.
- The road doesn't continue into the distance, there's no anticipation of the next turn. Is it FOV or is it something they are masking? All turns are under 5 seconds away
- Car is and will always be controlled via center pin? That's why this game can't do physics.
I hear what you are saying however dirt 4 was a continuation from dirt 3 not dirt rally, so personally I don’t compare them. Dirt rally and now rally 2.0 are a new IP. They need to somehow remove the dirt name out of it to cut the confusion being one is arcade based and the other sim based.
Wait? Where are the menu's??!!
this video is fake , used CGI to hide the menues
Its a physics review bud. Menus don't deal much with physics.
I feel like I am going to need to reinstall Dirt Rally 1.0 just for Pikes Peak in VR. I didn't have VR when it first came out.
Dirt 2.0 looks far too easy, no real sense of car control like it may aswell be tarmac ironic for a game with Dirt in the title. I really enjoy Dirt Rally because it is hard but nothing about 2.0 draws me in its basically easy mode
So all in all - not a great difference between 2.0 and Dirt Rally. Just got Dirt Rally for "dirt" cheap on PS4.
There's a good difference, dr2 has more mass, inertia, u can feel it how the cars shift and slide on direction changes and on landing from jumps it's harder with a more believable reaction, unbalancing it, also on braking it more shifts weight and can unbalance it, which is good in my view. But also the tires feel like digging in the dirt, and there is stage degradation depending on your starting position.
I got Dirt 4 last year and I’m okay at the game on default settings. I’m a casual player just getting into rally stuff. Then I got Dirt Rally 2.0 because it was free on PS4 and that game is just crazy hard. I even put all the assists all the way up and the cars still just slide everywhere and I have no control. I’m trying to figure out what I’m doing wrong. It took me about 20 tries just to finish the first career race lol
Im like you. I like driving games, but I am NO expert.
I got dirt 4 back out a while ago and was getting good at it and thought I was becoming a "serious" sim Racer. Hahaha! Nope.
Got dirt rally 2.0 a couple of weeks ago and I am NOTHING! Think I'm doing a bit better than you, but not much.
Have you improved since 2 months ago?
Have you tried RWD cars in the wet??
My main "tip" (but like I say, I'm NOT good) is that you can't just hammer the accelerator and throw the car into corners. Learn to go at 80% and then see if you can take a bit more risks.
LKeet6 I’m glad I’m not the only one lol but no a few days after I made that comment I deleted the game. I heard Dirt Rally 2.0 was made more for using a steering wheel and I use a controller so maybe that’s what our problem is. But maybe I’ll try that game again.
@@stxfxn the reviews I read say it works fine with a pad! I use a pad!
I even heard of a guy who got to the highest difficulty playing with a keyboard on PC!
The game is just VERY hard and requires patience.
Good luck :)
Seriously, the car looks like it's driving on rails. The ride looked so smooth without any feeling of movement. I was closely looking at the bonnet, or the Hood if you're American and there were no physics showing the bumpiness of the track at all.
He has his camera movements to 0, basically it's moving with the car's chassis. Looking at the bonnet / hood with the setting set like this isn't gonna tell you anything :'D
well issue on DiRT 4 you need upgrade higher staff member to get it better on cars. default setup on DiRT 4 makes every cars go understeer alot. and if you doesnt have any higher staff member on your team you can't tunes car wider.
so you need play game until you get higher ranking staff member to get it done then if you tune the car most car felt same as DR 1 and 2.0
but issue is DiRT 4's random track generator i know its bit neat idea but executed boringly i seen several same looking place, same looking corners, same looking terrain all over again thankfully WRX has licensed track but obviously DiRT 4 AND DR DR2.0 is WRX Licensed rally game thats expected
Excellent video, hilarious openener, codies should pay u some commission it was your stream last night that made me cancel the standard version and get the deluxe version. Well done GM keep it up 👍
But i want less girth in my rally car
too late now
@@GamerMuscleVideos "girth endowed whether you like it or not!"
I think the tire model is really great now (except tarmac), but the suspension movement needs work. Look at how the tires move when the car stops before starting a stage. It looks off. Dirt Rally 1 had the issue too. Look at Richard Burn's Rally's suspension movement. It's the best I've seen so far. I have played the Dirt Rally 2.0 game. The tires seem to clip into the ground instead of using tire deformation.
For tire deformation there is only two options: Live For Speed and rFactor 2.
@@getsideways7257 Yes, I have those. Don't forget Rig of Rods. There is another game that does it, but I forget which one.
I, i played in 3rd person camera and when was driving on some more serious ground deformations, the car was repeating exactly every pot hole and bumps like it had no suspension at all. It reminded me of NFS carbon and most wanted games lol. It ruins immersion :(
Never played a rally game before a played this and almost cried lol it’s intensely hard someone help
Did you get it for free on ps4 too?
Play with steering wheel
@@eathstrke4016 Wow, helpful, that's like getting guitar hero without that shitty plastic guitar.
Im i the only one who plays Dirt series with Xbox 1 controller ? :'(
Dirt series is ok with controller, Dirt Rally i wouldnt say its part of Dirt series but a spinoff, and its not so good with controller
@@majo2626
Im managing to get 3rd/4th place in dirt rally 1 with controller so far as a clubman.
No. I use a controller and works fine.
Great vid chap ! U got a new sub :)
Btw, Am I the only person who enjoyed Dirt 4 ? Infact I actually enjoyed Dirt 4 (using a Thrustmaster TMX pro) than I did playing Forza Horizon 4 !
I will definately be getting Dirt Rally 2.0 tho !! Looks amazing !
I'm playing both atm and I almost enjoy dirt 4 more idk why
£64.99 for 4 days early access 🤣 I’ll wait
Yah it's annoying that they are using console game prices for PC , Deluxe version for £45 would be more like it in my opinion green man gaming which is a legit website have it for 51.99 - www.greenmangaming.com/games/dirt-rally-20-deluxe-edition-pc/
Cdkeys £24.99!
Stez nice call 👍🏻 just had a look and they have the DiRT Rally 2.0 Deluxe Edition PC for £39.99 on a daily deal 19 hours left
GamerMuscleVideos Just found out deal on CDkeys for £40 👍🏻 ordered it
£37.99 on cd keys www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/dirt-rally-2-0-deluxe-edition-steam-pc
I hit subscribe but now I'm all girth and no thrust. Just like the ladies like amirite fellas
Physics are pretty good
Dirt Rally and Dirt 4 are both great games...as long as you like the feeling of racing hover-crafts.
I like all the positives you have for it. So many videos focus on negative aspects.
well, I have opposite exp. here, on DC4 I just drive, cars keep up the road as in my real car, in DC2 theres no way to drive few meters not feeling you are on the ice... no calibrations, settings help. I wish it could be adjustable.
in WRC I have felt the cars are heavy BUT Dirt rally 2.0 did one thing perfect, They have mixed the heavy cars into more realistic physics. In WRC games there is hardly any difference between rallying in gravel or snow but in Dirt rally and rally 2.0 the difference is clearly felt..
This game is absolutely incredible on a 4 DOF rig like the ProSimu P5MP. The jumps and bumps (along with loud buttkickers to feel the suspension on gravel) is amazing!
I really wish more people spoke in terms of car modeling and physics. They are very different and separate things. And people often confuse them. Physics is easy. Physics even in lesser fidelity sims are pretty damn accurate. It's the car modeling that is the difficult point to hit. Cars are really complex. Simulating a generic car accurately is a lot of work. And then cars are also really sensitive, trying to tune the car model to have the same characteristics are it's counter part? Even more so. Small changes can make big differences.
That is a big bulk of the handling differences here. The physics has remained fairly consistent through out all dirt games. Even the ones that aren't sims. Usually they just simplify the car models and how the different physics inputs can effect parts of the car.
A "sim" that's less accurate than Dirt Rally is just cconsequently not accurate with reality. RBR NGP is the benchmark.
Codemasters cars look like toys.
Not enough front end feel on this one me thinks.
I agree with this so much. I feel like EVERYTHING rotates from the rear....thats not how that should happen.
Only thing i feel is not right about this game is that it sometimes feels like there is some sort of traction control still active even though you've switched it off. The throttle response feels really sluggish in a power slide. Specially in 3rd gear. In modern rally cars throttle response should be punchy as hell. In Dirt rally 2 it feels like theres loads of turbo lag in a 3rd gear power slide. Even on wet loose surfaces you cant make the wheels spin up and youre waiting ages for the revs to come up. Richard burns rally felt about right to me with regards to throttle response when the car was sliding. You could spin up the wheels during a slide then ease off a bit on the power if you were rotating the car too much on a bend. Its like Codemasters thought people would be spinning the car out all the time if they gave us true throttle response with the cars, so they added in some turbo lag. I dont get why they did that. More throttle response equals more control over the car.
My question
Which is closer to real life dirt 4 or dirt rally 2.0?
This was very helpful top Video thanks
I really liked this video, good way to start morning. Nice to see comparison from a thinking man who can transfer his driving feelings in words. Not that often you get that on other youtube channels.
this is exactly the video I needed, Thanks!
Good to hear the tarmac handling has been at least slightly improved. With dirt rally, I did find that it was so bad it was frustrating.
its still mostly bad to be honest
@@GamerMuscleVideos Ah well. I'll probably end up giving it a go. Worth it for the loose surface racing anyway. Thanks for the reply.
I got thrust AND girth! Thanks, GM!
GM - I think this is the most in-depth I've ever heard you speak about driving style, and the physics of car handling in a game..
I'm waiting until I get some feedback from people playing this via Revive..
we wont know that until summer 2019 or 4-6 months away approx. when the vr patch is released.. but yeah, im doing the same.
Can't wait too try it hope it's great FFB as well. I found low settings in dirt rally was best master about 100 too 110 rest was low and it felt good could feel more weight transfer suspension movement. I think people think higher is better but it's not You didn't show us that part
I’m a little bit disappointed. I liked and subscribed and I am still waiting for the extra Thrust and Girth 😞. Oh well. Can’t wait to get finally play this and looks like Codemasters did a great job.
Same
One thing that Dirt4 really gets right is that I can maneuver through the menus using the buttons on my wheel, and don't need a mouse or a keyboard. Dirt Rally games don't seem to be as accommodating in that regard, why not? This is on a PC, of course.
On Fanatec all controls now work and you can easily navigate through menus.
It always worked for me, t150, t300 and now csw2.5
The titles states clearly "DIRT RALLY 2.0 VS DIRT 4 & DIRT RALLY"
So a quick question - does this make GamerMuscle a dirty, dirty, DIRTY MAN!!! ;D
But is it better than Richard Burns Rally?
He has a separate video on this very question...
What's that video called? I know he did it on DiRT Rally, but not on 2.0, right? I can't find it at least
No not even close!!! Sadly
@@JurOz1980 Very close actually.
it´s the funniest first 13 seconds of a youtube video I´ve ever seen
I was so looking forward to this new dirt rally especially as I recently upgraded from my g29 to a thrustmaster TGT to which I must say is an awesome piece of kit so much more realistic than my g29 and has literally made playing all my racing games a whole new and a much better experience now ive only played 6 hrs on dirt rally 2.0 as opposed to 4000 miles on dirt rally but to be honest I think the handling model is better on dirt rally you feel much more what the cars doing and just seems better also the graphics on dirt rally 2.0 seem to look more like a painted cartoon canvas just my opinion maybe the game will grow on me ?? its certainly different to dirt rally but no way is it better !!
yeah this was my first feeling when I played it.. I'm surprised there isn't any one else talking about it. 🤔🤔🤔
Been Microphone i agree with both of you. I’m playing both and i love dirty rally and when i play 2.0 im not having as much fun and the cars don’t feel as dynamic either
its a dry sunny day.. why is there mud on the screen?
that's hobbit blood, did not hit him hard enough.
ah, that makes sense
Do we know if steam version will get VR support or will it only be on oculus store ?
agreed. this is a really big deal. all the vr players with any sense are currently holding back on purchasing the game until they hear how the vr support is being implemented. codies are losing money there, they should just let us know. ideally it will be a free patch for all versions. but you never know.. it could be only on oculus store or it could be paid dlc. or even a seperate game on steam... that would all suck but its possible. and i dont want to buy the game twice. i guess theres a silver lining though.. by the time they announce how its going to work etc the game might be cheaper on sale ;-)
Thank you, very informative video!
So you're telling me I won't be doing 3 unintentional kickflips in a single stage?
This is what I wanted to know ... Cheers muscle
I'm not really convinced. It looks kind of like you're being pulled on a rope while swinging and tumbling around on the end of it. Maybe that's the "weight" of the cars you're referring to.
I would describe it as driving on rails. The car just seemed to glide along the track. I got no sensation of feeling the bumps and undulations of the uneven track.
Could anybody relay this question to Codies: Why could these games not have modding posibilities for people wanting to make the game more realistic? The talent out there is insane, just look at Assetto Corsa and RBR NGP etc. But is there something proprietary or practical that makes this hard? I don't think it'd hurt sales at all and it would add to the longevity of the game (which they might not be interested in...)
licensing and support is often the main reason.
2:50 you talk about the wait of cars being a problem in the first Dirt Rally. Which physics is more realistic. Dirt Rally 1 or Dirt Rally 2?
bump
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Dirt 3= arcade, dirt rally 1=sim rally, Drit 4= sim ish arcade. so dont compare dirt rally series with an arcade xD Nice video anyway, gonna buy dirt rally 2 ofc :D
They marketed dirt 4 as more realistic than dirt rally.
Dirt 4 and dirt rally 2.0 are very similar in every aspect stupid kids
@@GamerMuscleVideos lol is it? :D
ONE QUESTION: How do you do to get the "auto" stage ending and not having to bring the car to the official like in the first version? I have looked for this and I can't find it anywhere, only reducing the braking after the finish.
Top video, the game looks very promising :)
Great vid mate
Dirt 2.0 vs dirt, flat tracks, no bumpiness, physic is terrible in this matter
Thank you so much for this video 👍🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Thanks GM
I have pre ordered dirt 2.0 hope I’m going to Like it, dirt rally I have which is a good game challenging but fun, dirt 4 I like too and WRC 5,6,7. Also love Colin McRae dirt 1 and 2. I will be on a pad. Hopefully I will enjoy it
Is the difference like comparing assetto corsa to forza horizon 4 or assetto corsa to the crew 2?
Is is easy to play using keyboard?
MOHAMED ISHAK no
"but Richard Burns Rally is still the better simulator!!1"
In terms of road surface feel and responsiveness it certainly still is IMO.
yep sill the best rally sim ...
XD
What are you using for Force Feedback settings?
Not sure why dirt 4 gets the hate it does.. dirt is a complete different game to dirt rally, dirt is supposed to be arcade feeling and dirt rally a simulation
They marketed dirt 4 as having improved physics over dirt rally and being more realistic whalst also having arcade mode to make it "eaear".
Dirt 4 gets hate because it's a game for noone in particular it's not very good as a SIM due to weard rear end handling and super repetitive stages and it's not good as a game due to it not having any really "fun" aspects / cool gamey stuff.
it should flipping launch in the air if you hit somethhing on the side of the stage.. jeeze. i mean it depends what you hit but dirt rally 2.0 is clearly far too forgiving where crashes are concerned..2:09 is a clear example of this... and then when you state the bad thing about dirt rally was you could be running a perfectly good stage etc and then one small mistake ends it for you... dude. this is rally, that is EXACTLY how it should be.
Its obviously on a scale in the sense that , yes if you smash into a tree wall or have a big crash massive roll then it should do massive damage and maybe be game over.
However the issue with rally1 was that the cars literally launched as if they were super light seemingly at random , it was massively inconsistent and massively over the top.
What is needed is DIrt rally 2 wight of the car with it not launching and flipping as easy, but then RBR or worse dammage, so if you do drive into a tree or smash the car hard you get proper damage.
@@GamerMuscleVideos agreed. and the way the cars launched into the air in dirt rally 1 was massively over the top, but i wouldnt call it inconsistent. and i actually enjoyed the challenge despite its lack of realism. i think i would have preferred it if they hadnt made the cars quite so heavy in dirt rally 2, even if its less realistic. its a game, and to simulate real life sometimes you have to exagerate certain aspects to achieve the right feeling. as long as it doesnt make it easier or too arcade i welcome any minor exaggerations as long as they are done for the right reasons. im not saying i want dirt rally 2.0 to have the exact same physics just that they went too far with the cars weight and lateral grip (when sliding) around corners. cars also brake too well and perhaps most importantly can go off track, into banks, into trees etc with no consequence. overall though i like the look of dirt rally 2.0 and will definitely be picking it up just as soon as they announce how the vr version is going to be released. i will still likely spend alot of time in original dirt rally though. but i will have to wait until i have played it of course.
So is Dirt 2.0 better than dirt 4? I want to have one installed, but won’t bother with the other
What wheel are you using there?
You dont feel the bumps. You dont feel the difference between the road and the grass. The game really realy sucks! The first dirt rally is so much better and its not even close to richard burns in terms of handeling
did you say the game is coming out tonight??? what am i missihng?? its says its released on the 26th???
Dirt Rally and my triple screen set up always looked horrible no matter what I tried. Anyone have feedback on triples for this?
Also, is the menu navigation completely console biased like it was with F1 2018?
Thx for Vid. Greeting from Germany.
Okay that’s it. I’m downloading now!
What's with the spinning front wheels at 5:10? The car is RWD.
the car has weight? are you serious? the car's movement (watch kind what does the suspension) looks like the car weights like a small toy... especially when you go on the side of the road.
Cars feel way better... Call me crazy but didn't the cars feel like this when dirt was colin mcrae rally?
Have you tried it out with a controller?
I can tell you it won't be ideal for a controller if it's anything like dr1.
Yeah, that's what I was assuming... Think I might have to get a wheel this year!?! :-)
@@blacklabbby actually dirt rally wasnt bad at all with the controller, i still prefer it at times even though i have a wheel set up now..
Are you on drugs.
Dirt rally 2.0 is great with a controller I use one and I’m loving the game 8.5/10 from me would be a 10 if there was more variety of cars and tracks
Have he orig and im terrible 😀 but i do enjoy the game but i like driving on asphalt so wonder will we ever get a realistic grid... ?
Why does DiRT 4 have better graphics?
Agreed. DR 2.0 sometimes looks grotesque with all those effects, texture shimmering and HDR lighting effects...
I have been complaining about Dirt Rally 1 physics for ages and i always got shut down by simulator purists who said its just the best thing ever and the driving is 100% realistic. I quit the game after 30 Hours in frustration. But Hey! The improved the physics and driving so it wasnt perfect you say? I had completely given up on Codemasters caus the only modern game i enjoyed the physics was Dirt 2 but from your review it seems like we actually might have the rally game we deserved for over a decade. Thanks for the review
flipping dirt 4 fans.. you wouldnt know what fun was if it.. etc. dirt rally was realistic in every way that counted for me. sure the cars were too light on jumps. but that just made it more challenging. it was the perfect mix of fun and sim. dirt rally 2.0 looks to have overcompensated with the cars weight to me, but time will tell and i guess it looks pretty good, certainly more realistic in that aspect even if there are quite a few other aspects that are more arcadey. like rwd e.g. so unlike dirt 4 i will definitely be picking this one up at some point.
@@wotever99ninynine Its supposed to be a simulation. Why make it ''more challenging'' that it would be in real life. If anything, Dirt rally is only a simulation of overall feels and intensity of a rally race. This is perfectly nailed. But it always seem to me that people think a game is a simulation because its hard and realistic. A good exemple would be Sturmovik games : Its hard and you always stall your plane... It might look realistic but a proper pilot will tell you there is no way a real plane would stall so easily. You just cant have the same fun maneuvers as you would in real life caus you always lose controll and it really affect the gameplay in a bad way. Dirt Rally feels the same to me. I just cant do any fun maneuvers caus the game always make me spin and loose control. To be fair it all started with Dirt 3. It was almost exactly the same physic as Dirt 2 but with improved feels and also i couldnt hit any cool slide anymore caus it would make me spin and its all that matters to me, i just cant play the damn game due to that. Its not caus its a simulation or its too hard caus i love racing sims. If anything Dirt rally make me feel like im driving a cart in real life...
But you are right about how they might poorly implement the weight. I have tried Dirt 4 and it only feels like im moving a huge heavy weight left and right but nearly independent of the physics. And their simulation mode (said to be like dirt rally) was just the exact same physics but the car would simply react slower than arcade mode. Also if you drop the accelerator and let the car stop by itself you will stop much quicker on road than in a big puddle of water so how can i even consider they know anything about real life physics when everything just seem to happen randomly?
Im really concerned for Dirt rally 2. I really want to love that game but man it will be a miracle if they pull it off
@@captainwedgie1783 yeah, you get it, except dirt rally really isnt that hard once you get used to it, and sliding is very doable.. a wheel certainly helps though.
@@wotever99ninynine I got the game. The physics are good and make a lot more sense than previous games. It still have that typical floaty feel especially when driving on asphalt but it doesnt hinder the overall experience, and most of the time you are driving on different surfaces so it doesnt matter at all. Im pretty sure it reduce the traction quite a bit but im willing to take it as additional challenge. I dont crash nearly as much caus now i understand how the car react and it always feel logical. Its nothing like Dirt 4 at all tho. I would never compare them together as dirt 4 only felt like i was driving a heavy baloon. Dirt rally 2 doesnt, it feels just right...
I absolutely despise the game menus. They are just counter intuitive to me i cant wrap my mind around them. Except the option menus, they are good.
Also the graphics are just good enough, but the chromatic aberration is the absolute worse i have seen. And the game doesnt feel optimised at all. It feels worse than anthem in fact. Its just playable enough on my 1070 and even though i have an i7 4790k and more ram than i need my whole system is slowed down just by having the game running in background and typing this comment...
In all it really feels like the rally game we should have had years ago
@@captainwedgie1783 yeah. seriously unoptimised.. my gtx 1060 can play most new games at 60fps+ on ultra settings. it struggles to get 50fps on medium to high... which is utter shit. dirt rally 1 on ultra never dipped below 60. in a rally game or any racing game for that matter you NEED at least 60fps.. also the FFB is absolutely terrible so whether the physics are better or not (i guess they are) i couldnt tell because with ffb this bad its unplayable. i agree that the menus are shit.. and in original dirt rally when you highlight an option you had a description telling you what it does. not here. i guess you have to alt tab and google the options you want to change.. such a small and easy thing to add. they made the options. they know what they do. write a few freaking words so we do to. and the racenet thing.. nah. too far codemasters. the ffb or lack there of. is enough to make this a no buy for me. (for now)
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The unavoidable question... Compared to RBR with ngp physics?
I'd say feels pretty close. Not sure why there is the need to bring up either DR1 or D4 at all, since this feels much more like NGP to me than it does resemble DR.
Traction control on modern rallycars? Which ones??
But Dirt 2015 is better than Dirt 4... So it should be better than Dirt 2.0... Right ? Or ??
So does it close that magical gap between Richard Burns & Dirt Rally physics? I'm curious if they improved the bogged down feeling accelerating out of corners as well?
he mentioned the bogging specifically has been improved
Dalton Bedore Ahh okay I also missed the live stream so I am a m playing catchup.
МД61К ЩЮУ58ЯЮУЩ are you happy with the physics in general? Is it an improvement over original Dirt Rally?
МД61К ЩЮУ58ЯЮУЩ awesome! I am going to buy it right now, I know there are some online issues but I need to try this. Thanks for detailed reply!
It's like iceskating, I dislike it.