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  • On First Take, Stephen A Smith agrees with Steph Curry about his status as the NBA’s best PG ever. Plus, Stephen A. Discusses notable matchups in the 2023-24 NBA schedule, headlined by Celtics vs. Lakers on Christmas Day.
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  • @Professionalrandom
    @Professionalrandom Před 8 měsíci +811

    For those that didn’t catch the whole conversation Steph basically said if you ask him to pick between himself and anyone he’s always gonna choose himself, but he knows Magic’s resume is top tier and he’s still got work to do

    • @InvincibleYoungEmpire
      @InvincibleYoungEmpire Před 8 měsíci +15

      Always lobe that he points that out.

    • @supavol
      @supavol Před 8 měsíci +18

      Exactly. It's also ridiculous, everything points to Magic Johnson...the only argument people make is Steph's "impact on the game" with the 3s which mean there's no argument. Magic did not grow up with a 3 point line, I'm not giving Steph or Harden or even LeBron any extra credit cause the math got figured out during their era.

    • @igotjokes4ya340
      @igotjokes4ya340 Před 8 měsíci +33

      @@supavolit’s not even about the match it’s fact that dude hitting from any where

    • @supavol
      @supavol Před 8 měsíci +2

      @igotjokes4ya340 Magic has a higher career FG% than Steph. 52% to 48%. He just never shot 3s cause no one really did back then. Magic a 85% FT shooter so he had touch.

    • @Dipset415
      @Dipset415 Před 8 měsíci +23

      @@supavolwhat if Steph came into the league with the mvp on his team💯

  • @kristopherbaca2660
    @kristopherbaca2660 Před 8 měsíci +140

    Steph’s most recent championship run was masterclass

    • @chriswright8074
      @chriswright8074 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Not really

    • @philip-__-9889
      @philip-__-9889 Před 8 měsíci +16

      @@chriswright8074why not?

    • @therealwelfin
      @therealwelfin Před 8 měsíci +8

      For real best defense in the league w defensive player of the year at his position + celtics were targeting only him the whole series + legendary away game 4 performance

    • @Jony-es3wi
      @Jony-es3wi Před 8 měsíci +3

      ​​@@therealwelfin it doesn't matter , Celtics made it to the finals in 2022

    • @gabrieljohnson1854
      @gabrieljohnson1854 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@chriswright8074 Yes it was Celtics were unstoppable they beat MVP Greek Freak and the best teams then Steph put the Warriors on his back and got the title proving one thing he can win without KD but KD can't win without him🤷‍facts are facts. Plus your just A hater so

  • @DillonAshtonCreations
    @DillonAshtonCreations Před 8 měsíci +44

    Not to mention, Steph has shown that he’s very much capable of being a “traditional” point guard at a high level. However, for the system he’s in (which he is the system) the way we often see him play is what has gotten them 4 chips.

    • @yuryberrios7003
      @yuryberrios7003 Před 8 měsíci

      With only 1 finals mvp & Wiggins should've got that one lol.....

    • @MervinMasajo
      @MervinMasajo Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@yuryberrios7003 you probably also believe that Andre Iguadala deserved the finals fvp when he got it. lol

    • @cfhar080591
      @cfhar080591 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@yuryberrios7003Which games in that finals was Wiggins more impactful than Curry?

    • @tonyis_lit1137
      @tonyis_lit1137 Před 8 měsíci

      @@yuryberrios7003he should have 3 fmvps to be honest 2015 he deserved 2018 he deserved and 2022 he finally got

  • @ljcool17
    @ljcool17 Před 8 měsíci +287

    Magic led the Lakers to a championship in his rookie year and winning game 6 without Kareem to seal the title

    • @Longasseboy
      @Longasseboy Před 8 měsíci +110

      He had a Superteam… never had a mediocre team. Magic is among the greatest, but come on… a little bit of honesty goes far…

    • @NYCBX9
      @NYCBX9 Před 8 měsíci +24

      Won FMVP has a Rookie

    • @MauMauBinghi
      @MauMauBinghi Před 8 měsíci +11

      Worthy and scott wasn't there magic's rookie year and Steph played on a super team too after they choked. And he wasn't even the best player on his own superteam... Let's be honest

    • @davidhughes1271
      @davidhughes1271 Před 8 měsíci +53

      @@MauMauBinghiI hate to break it to you bro but neither was magic. Kareem was by far the best player their first finals. David stern gave magic that finals mvp not the voters.

    • @Longasseboy
      @Longasseboy Před 8 měsíci +33

      @@MauMauBinghiin 2015 it wasn’t a superteam sorry. People like you revise history so that even the 2022 team is a superteam. 😂

  • @xTako_
    @xTako_ Před 8 měsíci +24

    Magic orchestrates the floor by passing the ball right where it needs to be. Steph orchestrates the floor by moving without the ball and killing defenses with it, making the opposing team think about him constantly on potentially being open, and also thinking that his teammates might get open, as well, because of the gravity he's creating. Both the same idea in terms of creating plays, but just with different trademark styles.

  • @daquanbumbry8519
    @daquanbumbry8519 Před 8 měsíci +10

    when steph answered sent a chill down my back fr , he is the real deal

  • @aaronfleming4176
    @aaronfleming4176 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Magic Johnson is not only the greatest point guard. But hes the greatest player of all time. He could play every position on the court. He won on every level...

  • @thedoubledownteam
    @thedoubledownteam Před 8 měsíci +5

    God, that was such a genuine answer because you could see it in his face. He really didn’t wanna go against Magic but he knew what the truth was and this is coming from a guy who will probably watching Magic when he was younger so you know it’s an authentic answer.

    • @AnHebrewChild
      @AnHebrewChild Před 8 měsíci

      it's called ESPN talking heads doing anything to grab headlines and get clicks.

    • @specialknees6798
      @specialknees6798 Před 8 měsíci

      @@AnHebrewChildik they’re running a business but it is still possible for said talking heads to be honest. Stephen was hired for his opinions. They’ll make him talk about a certain topic, but I don’t think they force him to take a given position on said topic.

  • @linnstr8609
    @linnstr8609 Před 8 měsíci +340

    This is a really hard one for me. Based on the definition of a prototypical point guard's duties (floor general, primary ball handler, getting others involved, initiating the offense, etc...), I think Magic Johnson is the greatest "traditional" PG. Regarding Curry, like Stephen A said, his movement without the basketball is unbelievable, and he is a dangerous catch and shoot player. Reggie Miller was similar, but he was a SG not a PG. Steph Curry doesn't fit the definition of a traditional PG. He isn't the primary ball handler on the team and to me he is too offense-oriented to be a true PG. He plays more like a SG. But since basketball has evolved so much over the years, I think we can say Steph is the greatest "modern" PG. So now putting the two players head to head, what do you prefer? Traditional or modern?

    • @rudolphsherkliff8726
      @rudolphsherkliff8726 Před 8 měsíci

      Magic by far is the greatest PG the NBA has ever seen. Stephen A is an idiot

    • @Jason09_
      @Jason09_ Před 8 měsíci +30

      Good points , I prefer the traditional point guard like Magic, Nash , Stockton , Cp3. Curry is more of a scorer than passer which is why it makes the debate.

    • @saintnick6413
      @saintnick6413 Před 8 měsíci +4

      What do you mean he is and the primary hall handler ? I think he is I agree with everything you said but that one part

    • @yayarea5109
      @yayarea5109 Před 8 měsíci +17

      Position were made for novices…what matters is the effect the player has on his team ….before kerr ..steph played the traditional point guard role …then turned to an absolute beast and so did the team cause they unlocked what his best asset can do for the whole team…tony allen was a shooting guard but he is known for his defense nobody feared him on offense …curry challenged the old school half court pace and turns out that style cant hang with the new era pace …curry getting penalized when he has won 4 chips for playing off ball is crazy 😂😂😂

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +7

      ​@@yayarea5109That makes him a SG, not a Point Guard

  • @Bilal_Aslam_
    @Bilal_Aslam_ Před 8 měsíci +63

    Can’t spell “Stephen A.” without “Steph”

  • @mrpete89
    @mrpete89 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Sounds like he's describing a shooting guard instead of a point guard

    • @thannypadlan
      @thannypadlan Před 8 měsíci

      so in your perspective, Luka is also a point guard,,,,

    • @theoo149
      @theoo149 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@thannypadlanlukas most definitely a pointguard

    • @thannypadlan
      @thannypadlan Před 8 měsíci

      @@theoo149 and so is draymond, jokic, lbj

  • @jalenblack7202
    @jalenblack7202 Před 8 měsíci +164

    notice nothing Stephen A said had anything to do with being a actual PG just his shooting

    • @norvinzor
      @norvinzor Před 8 měsíci +30

      All these "PG" "SG" "SF" "PF" "C", are just NBAs versions of Weight and Height Classes These "positions" don't mean anything in the NBA.

    • @obi3924
      @obi3924 Před 8 měsíci +48

      Being a “true PG” isn’t the question. It’s about who’s the best player at the point guard position. Just because Jokic shoots threes and sets up a lot of his team’s plays doesn’t mean he’s not a center.

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@obi3924 False parallel. SMH

    • @Da_Summersoldier
      @Da_Summersoldier Před 8 měsíci +21

      He said multiple things… you might just have selective hearing. He brought up Leadership, Impact, off ball floor generalship essentially, Playmaking, and making his teammates better.

    • @brixaabrixaa3390
      @brixaabrixaa3390 Před 8 měsíci +7

      ⁠@@Da_Summersoldierhe doesn’t do any of those better except off ball 😂 when magic was a rookie Kareem got hurt & everybody was sad. This dude walked in the locker room and said “never fear magic is here”.. a rookie 😂 Steph don’t got that type of leadership

  • @adamnehal9547
    @adamnehal9547 Před 8 měsíci +80

    What Stephen did in that 4th chip run solidified it imo the offensive juggernaut he was averaging 30 through out the whole playoffs i think second in ppg in the year was Jayson averaging almost 28 throughout the playoffs but eventually fell due to lack of experience and fatigue but what curry did in the playoffs that year was unmatched

    • @BourneKnight
      @BourneKnight Před 8 měsíci +3

      So.. in a sense.. he’s a 2 who just so happens to play the PG due to his size

    • @Handlehosyler
      @Handlehosyler Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@BourneKnightis jokic a pg or a center?

    • @BourneKnight
      @BourneKnight Před 8 měsíci

      @@Handlehosyler Jokic actually plays like a center which includes posting up, blocking shots, and rebounding. Green is the architect/ best passer on warriors offense.

    • @BourneKnight
      @BourneKnight Před 8 měsíci

      @igotsixringsniggaWell, his attributes are quite the opposite as those of a true PG. CP3, Magic, Stockton are true PGs whereas Curry is the lowest in the assists & steals categories as a PG. So much for being a GOAT at the position.

    • @Handlehosyler
      @Handlehosyler Před 8 měsíci

      @@BourneKnight Ngl man if you think green is a better passer than curry you dont know ball. Gotta remind myself to stop posting comments on social media lol

  • @dwoodstwin
    @dwoodstwin Před 8 měsíci +243

    Impact? Steph revolutionized 3 point shooting. Magic Johnson literally saved the nba. Idk about this one.

    • @LETSROCKTA
      @LETSROCKTA Před 8 měsíci +23

      Hmmm we could argue that more than Magic, Jordan saved the NBA. Steph changed how the game is played. Then again these comparisons make no sense given how dramatically different their impact is on the PG position.

    • @deshundillard1337
      @deshundillard1337 Před 8 měsíci

      bro stfu u dummy talking about saved😂😂 steph better

    • @vintagemonte
      @vintagemonte Před 8 měsíci +7

      Magic did that alone?

    • @dwoodstwin
      @dwoodstwin Před 8 měsíci +45

      @@LETSROCKTA no, no no no. The nba was literally going out of business until bird and magic saved it. Jordan took it to another level but Magic and Bird are directly responsible for it even existing. Nba wasn’t even live on tv until bird and magic.

    • @mrgetitdone85
      @mrgetitdone85 Před 8 měsíci +22

      @@LETSROCKTAmagic and bird saved the nba! They wasn’t even playing live games on tv until
      Those 2 came

  • @walterfields3467
    @walterfields3467 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Steph got it. And by Steph having it there's no disrespect to Magic, but this man has changed the game on offense & defense for the foreseeable future and he has all the hardware to back it up. 🐐

    • @malachithegreat3889
      @malachithegreat3889 Před 8 měsíci

      Magic brought the flare of passing. Michael changed the game for scoring guards. AI gave everyone the street crossover. Ray Allen and Reggie Miller brought in the lights out shooting mentality. Put it together you have Steph's influences. The NBA changing the rules against hard defense to allow high scoring games is why Steph is so dominant in this era. No hard fouling anymore. Sooo its Magic, because his game was transcendent beyond rule changes and eras.

  • @jadenkubiak5936
    @jadenkubiak5936 Před 8 měsíci +25

    This is really hard. But Steph will always create space for all other players on his team. If you made an all time team and picked Steph at your PG then Jordan, Lebron, Kobe or whoever you choose as your wing players will have so much space and isolation opportunities more then if Magic was the PG.

    • @Qdawwg
      @Qdawwg Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yeah it's unfair to compair eras because players overall will just improve. But that being said nobody is picking Magic over Steph as their pg on an all time team. So that basically answers the question, and the gap is only going to grow wider over time

    • @malachithegreat3889
      @malachithegreat3889 Před 8 měsíci

      The NBA changing the rules against hard defense to allow high scoring games is why Steph is so dominant in this era. No hard fouling anymore. Sooo, its Magic, because his game was transcendent beyond rule changes and eras.

  • @MrWhite00001
    @MrWhite00001 Před 8 měsíci +35

    Steph has been my favorite player since 2013. I even jumped on the “Steph is the best PG ever” bandwagon. But the truth is MAGIC did so much with such a short career. Go look up his heroic performance in the finals as a rookie. I gotta give the nod to magic. Now if Steph gets 5 rings it’s a wrap.

    • @edwinwashington6288
      @edwinwashington6288 Před 8 měsíci +2

      How? What does he do that makes the team better when on the FL besides shooting 3's😂😂😂😂that's it. He doesn't make anyone better, he just can shoot 3s and really good at it, but that's it

    • @ryanlebard3787
      @ryanlebard3787 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Gotta remember stephs doing this at 6’ 2 maybe 6’ 3…, that’s unheard of… a player that size leading a championship only other one I can think off was Isaiah Thomas imagine if Isaiah had 4 rings at that size

    • @user-ks7zd4ug8q
      @user-ks7zd4ug8q Před 8 měsíci +10

      @@edwinwashington6288this how I know u a casual,Steph DOESNT just shoot threes,HES a great playmaker,he can finish around the rim,he can play on and off the ball,HES a good midrange shooter,HES also a average defender,he can basically do everything on the court,and his film shows that,so cut the cap bruh

    • @jjcoolboyify
      @jjcoolboyify Před 8 měsíci

      @@edwinwashington6288casual

    • @judyclarkson5887
      @judyclarkson5887 Před 8 měsíci +5

      ​@@edwinwashington6288Imagine truly believing this is a true claim when the man been the only one on his team who's consistently generating 20+ on/off court plus/minus impact swing seasons after seasons. Like that stats in the finals vs Boston was mindboggling. The team had 80-some offensive rating when Curry sat on the bench,, and the mark jumped to close to 120 when Curry was on the floor. Magic don't generate such an impact to his team,, ever! And Curry constantly had such an impact on his team and a casual like you somehow don't call him a PG just bcos somebody else playing point forward role got more apg (not by a wide margin anyway) than him. Caasual 😂😂

  • @BoskoShabazz
    @BoskoShabazz Před 8 měsíci +112

    Magic still the best PG of all time but Steph is right there on his heels.

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +7

      Steph is not a PG.

    • @DoubaComps
      @DoubaComps Před 8 měsíci +18

      @@melvinhhcp3615thinking of basketball positions in their traditional roles in 2023 is unbelievably outdated and invalid

    • @hlmcclain2
      @hlmcclain2 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@melvinhhcp3615 Thank You 💯

    • @hooligan5381
      @hooligan5381 Před 8 měsíci +3

      no0 he isn't steph isn't and hasn't passed Big O

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@DoubaComps The history of the game far supersedes 2023 norms sir.

  • @TrevorPrinceMusic
    @TrevorPrinceMusic Před 8 měsíci +23

    It’s a tough one. I got magic still at 1. BUT Steph is definitely in the conversation. If Steph gets one there still a conversation but Steph edges. If he finds some way to get 2 more the conversation is dead. The thing that hurt magic was he wasn’t in the league long enough. Steph’s game translates when he gets older. He might be the only player with 4K 3s made and the efficiency he does is crazy. So Steph is in the conversation.

    • @vayduong6806
      @vayduong6806 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Almost all the final the warriors won, step was not the best player in the team.

    • @valber7472
      @valber7472 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@vayduong68062015 i know they gave it to Iggy, but Steph was better. 2018, I actually believe that Steph and KD were in the same level, so it comes down to personal preference, and 2022 which obviously is Steph

    • @vayduong6806
      @vayduong6806 Před 8 měsíci

      @@valber7472 2022 he is good but Wiggins was the man in that series

  • @jigglynorris2559
    @jigglynorris2559 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Actually impressed with the thoughtful discussions this question is bringing

  • @markjones2518
    @markjones2518 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Magic made the game popular His leadership was amazing I mean he made an impact as a rookie winning Finals MVP

  • @ZaysWorlld
    @ZaysWorlld Před 8 měsíci +3

    Important thing to note is his 3p efficiency with how many shots he takes because that’s what is insane

  • @tuckerkline4142
    @tuckerkline4142 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Steph is the most lethal offensive player in men’s United States pro sports history. That’s my opinion

    • @specialknees6798
      @specialknees6798 Před 8 měsíci

      Mannnnn. Steph is my favorite player ever but that’s a bold claim. Offensively Steph is a top 3 player ever. Saying he’s outright the greatest is… I’m not certain how I feel about it. I want it to be true bc he’s my favorite, but I’m not sure I agree.

    • @tuckerkline4142
      @tuckerkline4142 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@specialknees6798 I’m taking Steph curry’s offense over anyone, and I’m sleeping well with that take too

  • @cheekynative
    @cheekynative Před 8 měsíci +1

    I really liked the point Gil made about Magic being a point-forward or something to that effect; the man started at centre when he was required to. Bron is a similar player. The way the game is being played today and the direction it's headed in, PG's are gonna have to have a little bit of everything in their bag. Guys like Dame and Trae are also helping redefine the role.
    Steph manages to affect opposition defenses in ways that achieve the same results as more tradition ball-in-hand guys like CP3 do; open up the floor, collapse the lane, ruin matchups, control the tempo of the game, get his guys wide open shots and ultimately get these W's.
    It's a more nuanced argument than that, but the point I'm getting at is that a great PG has to do and be more than just a floor general. Steph has just evolved faster than I think a lot of folks were prepared for, and right now, he's the apex predator at his position.
    All that being said, it's a lot of combo guards coming up who are creating their own niches, finding different ways to be effective on and off the ball. Nikola, Giannis and Joel are doing the same thing at the other end of the size scale. It's gonna be a time when the position listed next a players name is meaningless, and as a fan of the game, I'm here for all of it.

  • @treysteem6
    @treysteem6 Před 8 měsíci +115

    I still have Steph at 2, in my personal opinion, although Steph is a way better shooter, Magic had the ability to lead an NBA team, his skills on the basketball court were phenomenal and what awards he was able to earn while in the NBA solidified him IN MY OPINION as the best PG. It is clear Magic Johnson is the best due to a combination of his leadership, basketball skills, awards, and his ability to make all of his teammates better players.

    • @michellesmith684
      @michellesmith684 Před 8 měsíci +11

      Me too magic is still number 1 bt if Steph get more ring I put him number 1

    • @liamcephus9687
      @liamcephus9687 Před 8 měsíci +26

      Only thing I will say is Steph has always been the leader of his team. It’s tough for me too.

    • @judyclarkson5887
      @judyclarkson5887 Před 8 měsíci +3

      ​@@michellesmith684Same with me then. 2 more rings to make it no more a debate tho

    • @marconehilton
      @marconehilton Před 8 měsíci

      @@liamcephus9687 not until Kerr was signed.

    • @ZoDrama
      @ZoDrama Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yea Steph need one more ring to solidify it

  • @Vandingo_254
    @Vandingo_254 Před 8 měsíci +15

    Seems like the 3-1 2016 finals have disappeared . Couldn’t imagine if Lebron, Kobe, MJ blew a 3-1 lead in the finals we would never stop hearing it

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Bron got 6 Finals losses. He's not even in the conversation.

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci

      You talking like Adam Silver wasn't involved.

    • @R2Holloway13
      @R2Holloway13 Před 8 měsíci

      Are we forgetting that Lebron got swept in the finals?

    • @arrybtw2247
      @arrybtw2247 Před 8 měsíci

      Lebron got swept multiple times and Completely Disappear in 2011 finals while having the best roster in the NBA I don’t wanna hear nothing Lebum also has the record for the Most turnovers in NBA history

    • @lllightskindude
      @lllightskindude Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@R2Holloway13so did Kobe with prime Shaq what's your point ?

  • @richrich359
    @richrich359 Před 8 měsíci

    They should have had a panel for this question

  • @cedrickcarson
    @cedrickcarson Před 8 měsíci +3

    Magic gone see you soon for this take Stephen A. 😎💯

  • @rodriguezsp8059
    @rodriguezsp8059 Před 8 měsíci +94

    Magic had a bigger impact on the game . He along with Larry helped get it from tape delay to what it is now . Magic has 5 rings yes he had Kareem but steph had kd for 2 and also a stacked team .

    • @SuperGreen81
      @SuperGreen81 Před 8 měsíci +9

      Lolol. Magic team wasn't stacked

    • @nikjd11
      @nikjd11 Před 8 měsíci +19

      “Bigger impact on the game” this is insane

    • @piplonf8591
      @piplonf8591 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Curry is literally better than him he can do everything magic does on offense besides dunk and the only reason magic defense is better is because he's taller dude not even a PG fr

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@piplonf8591 Magic was a PG. Knock it off.

    • @vernonharrison2488
      @vernonharrison2488 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Majority of teams that won the chip were stacked

  • @sean24833
    @sean24833 Před 8 měsíci +27

    If durant doesnt go to golden state were not having this conversation

    • @badalshakya3635
      @badalshakya3635 Před 8 měsíci +3

      It's not even a conversation. Curry changed the game. His impact on the game is next to MJ.

    • @sean24833
      @sean24833 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@badalshakya3635 analytics changed the game not steph

    • @tsevere
      @tsevere Před 8 měsíci +8

      ​@@badalshakya3635Magic SAVED the game

    • @TYLERtheMAGGOT1
      @TYLERtheMAGGOT1 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@badalshakya3635 without Magic Johnson, there wouldn't be a game to change. Magic saved the game

    • @Liltragics
      @Liltragics Před 8 měsíci

      @@sean24833 sure kid. Curry is the reason teams take so many 3’s idiot. Not analyzing freaking bozo.

  • @IamKirkoBangz
    @IamKirkoBangz Před 8 měsíci

    1:17 - whenever Steven A says this it has me weakkkkk
    Asffff 😂😂😂😂

  • @dr.henryjones616
    @dr.henryjones616 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Larry Bird had six seasons shooting 3Pointers well over 40% each season. If it wasn't for his terrible back injury, foot spurs etc. and him sticking around too long playing too hurt, his stats would be even better. During his unparalleled 3 year in a row MVP run where the Celts won 2 NBA finals including beating Lakers, Bird was in the 42% range for 3s every year.

  • @princellasmith7562
    @princellasmith7562 Před 8 měsíci +23

    I LOVE watching Steph Curry play, but Magic Johnson is the greatest point guard ever. Even Michael Jordan, the greatest PLAYER ever, calls Magic Johnson the greatest POINT GUARD ever.
    Won a chip as a rookie, played all 5 positions during that 1st chip when Kareem Abdul Jabbar got hurt, made REAL no-look passes, moved like a locomotive at 6'9" with that size as a point guard, and put together 5 chips dominating the league with Kareem. Magic was SPECIAL.

  • @kingoftroll3511
    @kingoftroll3511 Před 8 měsíci +3

    the thing is you cant compare current player with older gen as the definition of position changes.

  • @Phori859
    @Phori859 Před 8 měsíci

    Oh man I can’t wait to hear this one 😭

  • @jmr.r.198.4-7
    @jmr.r.198.4-7 Před 7 měsíci

    No one cooks up that sauce from the trey line like The Chefff 🔥

  • @dalton7726
    @dalton7726 Před 8 měsíci +26

    if he gets one more, i agree. for now, it's still Magic, although it is very close

    • @SojiRo23
      @SojiRo23 Před 8 měsíci +5

      If he gets one more he would still have inferior accolades compared to Magic. But it would be a more interesting conversation. Magic was NICE, bro.

    • @dalton7726
      @dalton7726 Před 8 měsíci

      @@SojiRo23 no doubt

    • @philmccracken179
      @philmccracken179 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@SojiRo23why because five championships in an older worse era is more valuable than five championships in todays game? Magic only should have four cuz they fixed it for them one year against the pistons. Go back and watch the foul called on lambeir or edwards(can’t remember) against Kareem in the last seconds. Tell me if that is anything close to a foul and remember that that wasn’t a foul, pistons win the chip again. And then add the one curry got fixed against when they fixed it for the cavs. Curry actually got 5 and Magic got 4

    • @Qdawwg
      @Qdawwg Před 8 měsíci

      I don't think it's as close as people think but hey that's just my opinion. I like to ask people a simple question, if you are building an all time team starting 5, are you picking Magic over Steph for the point guard? And I think there's an obvious choice unless you are biased and that's no disrespect to Magic. That being said, some people argue Bill Russell is the greatest bc of his accolades etc so talking about accolades and career that's an argument, so maybe they rate Bill Russell higher than Shaq based on that but it doesnt mean he's better than Shaq. This also gets into the MVP conversation, does it mean the best player in the world or the best player that season? I just think Steph is overall a better player

    • @philmccracken179
      @philmccracken179 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Qdawwg your right. Go watch some bill Russell highlights. He is basically a short Deandre Jordan with a worse shot. Bill russell wouldn’t even play division 1 college basketball if he was magically transported into todays game

  • @coolreg6395
    @coolreg6395 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Magic had big impact from day 1. The Lakers went from missing the playoffs to championships

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 Před 8 měsíci +9

      The Lakers made the playoffs the year before drafting magic and Kareem was the mvp of that season.

    • @Riles3152
      @Riles3152 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@jaydot4956 Exactly. The Lakers were far from bottom feeders when Earvin got there. What Bird did in turning around that Celtics squad in his rookie year, was honestly far more impressive. Magic was sensational, but he basically turned an already pretty good Laker team with a still established #1 guy, into a bonafide title contender.

  • @soundsofthenewberlin
    @soundsofthenewberlin Před 8 měsíci

    Both are the best pg of all time. It just depends if you want to play big or small according to the opposition because both are pure excellence and hard to say one or the other.

  • @ksmith25
    @ksmith25 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What if you could still hand check and chuck players when they come off screens and come into the paint would he still be able to just play free flow basketball its blows my mind that nobody seems to bring up the rule changes and how much of a inpact that has had on shooting

  • @dblocknyc
    @dblocknyc Před 8 měsíci +142

    STEPHEN A. has and always will be obsessed with Offensive players. I'm sorry but I cant put Steph over Magic when the only thing Steph does better than Magic is shoot. Magic was a better Point Guard which they play, a better defender, a better rebounder and was just as Winning as Steph. He came in as a Rookie and filled in for Kareem in the Finals, had immediate impact and etc. Steph needed years to be a factor and needed help to develop. Steph isnt even the best set up Man on his team

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +14

      Facts

    • @dinni.7073
      @dinni.7073 Před 8 měsíci +16

      Steph has better gravity, more movement, far more handles. Curry has added alot more wins for his team when he is in the floor. And Steph still has years to play anyways

    • @anthonycelestin3559
      @anthonycelestin3559 Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@dinni.7073 So if Curry surpassed Magic and most people got Magic over Kobe, then is Curry over Kobe?

    • @zanemoore1808
      @zanemoore1808 Před 8 měsíci +18

      Magic ain't guard nobody!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 0 none zip nada not once not one not ever

    • @agentcodybanx8909
      @agentcodybanx8909 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Magic was also the size of a PF at the PG position

  • @kingwill7365
    @kingwill7365 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Someone please tell me what makes Steph a point guard when he doesn’t even bring the ball up the court.

    • @skaterhugs1147
      @skaterhugs1147 Před 8 měsíci +2

      he absolutely does bring the ball up the court? draymond does occasionally as well but the ball is in stephs hands at the beginning of the possession 90% of the time

    • @diez5778
      @diez5778 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Bringing the ball up the court makes you a PG? Lol alright.

    • @gualacheesesteak
      @gualacheesesteak Před 8 měsíci

      @@diez5778bringing up the ball and facilitating the offense does. Draymond & Wiggins do that more then Curry

    • @diez5778
      @diez5778 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Y’all be saying anything. Not even going to argue.

    • @jjcoolboyify
      @jjcoolboyify Před 8 měsíci +1

      Lol old heads swear they know ball. Ridiculous take. Do you even watch the games or even watched at least 10 magic Johnson games lol

  • @Maddog-ot2dy
    @Maddog-ot2dy Před 8 měsíci

    Id like to see curry and magic in the same room, with these types of questions and see who gives who more recognition for each other's talents on the court and let the chips fall where they may

  • @solomonjames9627
    @solomonjames9627 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Stockton is just so looked over when it comes to point guards. Even though he holds not 1 but 2 all time records. No he doesn't have a chip, but as far as individual stats i think he should be in the discussion

  • @user-yn7uz9go5q
    @user-yn7uz9go5q Před 8 měsíci +20

    Pure insanity! Magic is undisputedly the best

  • @babystephena3773
    @babystephena3773 Před 8 měsíci +28

    For me, Steph has an advantage over Magic when it comes to building your best starting five. Not the best 5 at each position, but starting 5 that would fit their games well with each other. Steph's range is such a cheat code, his game can compliment the best of the best. like MJ would better with Steph than Magic, Lebron would be better with Steph than Magic, etc.

    • @abdeenabdul7803
      @abdeenabdul7803 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Magic would
      Make great players better

    • @specialknees6798
      @specialknees6798 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@abdeenabdul7803Steph straight up created an all star/hof career for Draymond Green.

    • @Qdawwg
      @Qdawwg Před 8 měsíci +1

      Exactly, if you are building an all time team there is nobody who is picking Magic over Steph without being extremely biased. It's Steph every time and honestly an easy choice. And so that should answer the question right there, and that's no disrespect to Magic I just hate when people pretend it's closer than it is, or say "oh if he gets one more chip then maybe he passes magic" like no sorry but he already passed him

    • @ayoo8782
      @ayoo8782 Před 4 měsíci

      Having Steph on ur team gives him u an advantage that other teams can’t have and can’t stop. He’s nasty

  • @tuckerkline4142
    @tuckerkline4142 Před 8 měsíci +1

    0:35 this was an epic Stephen A pause

  • @onyroo
    @onyroo Před 8 měsíci

    It’s crazy just the clip of the interview made news before the interview even released.

  • @ricanLegend2003
    @ricanLegend2003 Před 8 měsíci +38

    When it comes to PG, I think of CP3, Jason Kidd, magic, and nash. When I think shooting guards I think MJ, Kobe, wade, and yes curry. Draymond is the point guard of the Warriors.

    • @Paul.Burrell
      @Paul.Burrell Před 8 měsíci +1

      Exactly Curry is a shooting guard, that handles the ball due to his size. If he doesn't score his impact on the game is minimal, whereas Chris Paul or Rondo can dominate a game without putting up huge numbers. He's the greatest small shooter we've seen for sure, but he's in a class of his own. I wouldn't say he's a better facilitator than Chris Paul, and Chris could score almost as well. If I was a GM I'm taking Chris Paul on every team except the Warriors. These conversations are just talking points for lazy news days, but Curry is just a unique shooter and that is how he should be remembered. This BEST argument is getting old, because these folks switch their answers any way the wind is blowing.

    • @joemagwood6096
      @joemagwood6096 Před 8 měsíci

      Absolutely 💯

    • @cfhar080591
      @cfhar080591 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@Paul.Burrell You do realize Steph can facilitate?

    • @Paul.Burrell
      @Paul.Burrell Před 8 měsíci

      @@cfhar080591 Any body CAN facilitate, but can he facilitate like Chris Paul or Rondo. They are saying he's the best POINT GUARD, and that is what the position requires. Chris Paul can DOMINATE a game with 11 points, Steph cannot. He is just another body without his scoring, no different than Lillard or Iverson, or many of the other smaller shooting guards. That is just a fact. It's no slight on him, but his strength is shooting, Chris Paul is a better point guard because he has no weaknesses and is a st team defender. So no Steph isn't the best point guard ever, he's not even better than Chris Paul.

    • @gordongarlic
      @gordongarlic Před 8 měsíci +1

      curry averages 7 assists per game over the last 10 seasons

  • @Punkypoetico
    @Punkypoetico Před 8 měsíci +8

    While Steph isn’t a traditional pass first point guard he excels at being one of 2 greatest off ball movement players ever. Coupled with arguably the best ever gravity with teams consistently paying attention to him which in tow gives others easy buckets off double teams. If unassisted assists were a tracked stat Steph would be the nbas leader in this department.

    • @specialknees6798
      @specialknees6798 Před 8 měsíci

      Who’s the other guy? I thought consensus was that Curry was the greatest offball mover ever by far

  • @waverider2914
    @waverider2914 Před 8 měsíci

    I thought the thumbnail of this video said Stephen a agrees with Stephen a. LOL 😂

  • @dochudson9393
    @dochudson9393 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hard one, it's like picking passing vs. shooting

  • @KxngKUDA
    @KxngKUDA Před 8 měsíci +3

    Steph is just like Magic: a non traditional PG that changed the game. An anomaly.
    Magic was a SF parading as a PG. He walked so the likes of LeBron could fly. Sure, he ran all the base stereotypical responsibilities of a PG at a high level, but he also heavily benefitted by being the ONLY 6'9 PG in league history. And being drafted by the team with the GOAT of his era. But it doesn't diminish his accolades and accomplishments. He broke the mold.
    Steph has a similar impact. He runs the team based on the pure principles of a PG but his approach is one of a kind. He is the extension of the coach on the floor, and makes plays for his teammates to thrive. However, he goes against the stereotypical ideals of being a playmaker. Hes not the guy that pounds the ball most of the clock and is looking to make the immediate pass for a score. He doesn't prioritize getting assists to validate being a playmaker because hes truly unselfish. He's fine with creating opportunities for the NEXT pass to be wide open. He promotes ball movement from the ENTIRE team with his gravity. Thats why the warriors have been one of the leaders in team assists throughout their dynasty. But lets not get it twisted: when you are unequivocally the GREATEST SHOOTER EVER, with the ability to shoot off the catch, off the dribble, and from unprecedented range, you have an impact unlike anyone else in nba history. Sure, he played with KD, but KD came to HIM. (I dont see people diminishing Wade for playing with LeBron, so keep that same energy.) And aside from igoudala, the rest of his core has been homegrown, with a revolving door of talent surrounding them. Yet he still led them to relevance and prominence.
    Magic is bigger, won more, easily the best passer ever, and helped save and shape the league going forward. But he's also offensively limited, not a great shooter, subpar defensively for a guy with his physical tools, and left some game on the table due to his "extracurricular activities"
    Steph is easily the more offensively gifted talent, an underrated passer and playmaker, honestly about the same defensively as magic without the physical tools to supplement (I'd argue today he's a better defender since he's put on muscle) but he was also a late bloomer with his ankle woes.
    Ultimately, Steph is more relatable than Magic, and i think that makes him slightly more impactful. It took almost 2 decades before the next "Magic" could grace the floor (Lebron). But in the past 8 years Steph not only broke the mold on whats acceptable in the league today, but directly influenced the type of talent prevalent in the league and around the world. Look at Trae young, Damian lillard, jordan poole, Luka, etc. And look at different leagues from all age groups. The deluded idea that you think you can shoot like Steph has (for better or worse) changed players approach to the game.
    It's a toss up on who the GOAT PG is, but there's only 2 candidates. And depending on your preference, you're not wrong.
    But don't diminish the other on faulty principles. They are BOTH non traditional and BOTH anomalies.
    I'm personally team Steph. But its close. How about you?

    • @tahireed
      @tahireed Před 8 měsíci

      Curry literally flew across country to beg Kd to join his team. You Curry fans always lie about the situation and say Kd went to them but it was the exact opposite. Curry will always look weak for that.

    • @savonsanders3955
      @savonsanders3955 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@tahireedThat's a lie but keep being the media's puppet dawg lmao

    • @tahireed
      @tahireed Před 8 měsíci

      @@savonsanders3955 Do you live under a rock? Curry himself said they flew to the Hamptons to ask him to join the team. What do you think happened? Hahahahaha 🤣

    • @jjcoolboyify
      @jjcoolboyify Před 8 měsíci

      @@tahireedno actually Draymond made the call to KD. Magic never had to beg though because he had a top 3 player of all time with all of his championships. How many top 3 teammates did curry have? That’s what I thought lmao try again

    • @tahireed
      @tahireed Před 8 měsíci

      @@jjcoolboyify Try again? Hahaha
      Curry blew a 3-1 lead and then listened to the real leader of the team, Dray, and they begged Kd to join. You just proved Curry cant even lead himself. Can't blame Dray. He knew Curry couldn't get it done against LeBron and Kyrie so he got Kd to join. Cowards.

  • @dparks2856
    @dparks2856 Před 8 měsíci +25

    I have seen Steph without Draymond and it didnt go so well. Dray is the PG on this team

    • @connorheidebrecht1440
      @connorheidebrecht1440 Před 8 měsíci +5

      That is statistically not true, look up how he played last year when draymond was out.

    • @blackjesus2082
      @blackjesus2082 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@connorheidebrecht1440he played bad!!! They sucked

    • @z-mane1438
      @z-mane1438 Před 8 měsíci

      @@blackjesus2082😂

    • @aljosaerceg1102
      @aljosaerceg1102 Před 8 měsíci

      Absolutely right,he is just choke volume shooter nothing more,absurd to put him with those names even near come to playmaking

    • @jeremylaysbad6908
      @jeremylaysbad6908 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Lol yall just mad any of ur team's pg isnt in this convo

  • @joshualogronio4772
    @joshualogronio4772 Před 8 měsíci

    Finally! someone has finally said it!

  • @jeffreydean5112
    @jeffreydean5112 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It's Magic. To me he's the best ever. I will say the fact that Stockton is hardly ever mentioned in this debate is kinda ridiculous. His steals and assist numbers are untouchable.

  • @ringbellz1062
    @ringbellz1062 Před 8 měsíci +3

    It really depends on how we are defining “point guard” because that definition has changed. Point guards were not called on to score like they do now. So if your using the new definitions then yes steph is the best but if you are using old definitions it’s magic

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 Před 8 měsíci +2

      They are basically saying who is the best player to play the pg position not necessarily who was the better point guard if that makes sense.

    • @ringbellz1062
      @ringbellz1062 Před 8 měsíci

      @@jaydot4956 ahhhh fair

    • @Qdawwg
      @Qdawwg Před 8 měsíci

      Steph would have done better in Magic's era than Magic would have done in Steph's era and that kind of answers the question for me tbh

    • @ringbellz1062
      @ringbellz1062 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Qdawwg totally disagree. The physicality and hand checking would’ve affected him a great deal. He wouldn’t average nearly as much. Magic would’ve averaged a triple double in this era

    • @Qdawwg
      @Qdawwg Před 8 měsíci

      @@ringbellz1062 you need to be able to shoot and space it doesn’t matter how good of a floor general you are. Look at Ben Simmons, and I know that’s an unfair comparison but people would just let magic shoot threes wide open idk if it would translate…

  • @anthonyauthentic7934
    @anthonyauthentic7934 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Tired of the whole “you see kids wanting to shoot 3s “ so curry has impact. Yes, he does to an extent . One could argue that he also destroyed the league cause not everyone is curry beyond the arc.

    • @MervinMasajo
      @MervinMasajo Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah, and we're all tired of this same argument that has been mentioned many times that he destroyed it too.

    • @easylife6348
      @easylife6348 Před 8 měsíci

      @@MervinMasajo people said the same thing about mj, saying his 1v1 style of play destroyed the game.

  • @alaingabriel5543
    @alaingabriel5543 Před 8 měsíci

    Big facts put respect on his name

  • @robglobal1
    @robglobal1 Před 8 měsíci

    I got Magic #1 and I don't think it's debatable but I'm happy Steph answered the way he did. He didn't come out and say he is the best all time pg he just answered a question and every player should either answer that way or state they are at least trying to be the best

  • @melvinhhcp3615
    @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +49

    Steph is NOT a PG. He's a 2-guard.

    • @vintagemonte
      @vintagemonte Před 8 měsíci +7

      Yeah because draymond is a point guard

    • @ebenezerindi1766
      @ebenezerindi1766 Před 8 měsíci +14

      Steph is a PG. Just because he doesn't play like a traditional one, doesn't mean he's not one

    • @redclxxd5974
      @redclxxd5974 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Exactly. People keep saying I’m hating but when I think of PG he’s not even a true point. Magic, Stockton, Kidd, Isiah, nash are true floor generals. Steph is an undersize 2 that is listed at PG like A.I

    • @Teaskyy
      @Teaskyy Před 8 měsíci +3

      By y’all logic of the person running the offense wouldn’t that make Lebron the best PG of all time?🤔

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@vintagemonte Agreed

  • @GumbyDaGreat
    @GumbyDaGreat Před 8 měsíci +17

    I would love to see Steph try to stop Magic 🎩🪈💯

    • @windygrams5865
      @windygrams5865 Před 8 měsíci +17

      What about magic trying to keep up with steph though

    • @vantejackson8358
      @vantejackson8358 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Magic would get cooked by Steph

    • @GumbyDaGreat
      @GumbyDaGreat Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@vantejackson8358 Lil boy, you probably werent even born when Magic played 🤱 Steph only cooks small PGs 🤦‍♂️😭 Yo pampers need to be changed 💯

    • @drew4564
      @drew4564 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Magic can't stop Steph when he pulling up from 30+

    • @Lee65100
      @Lee65100 Před 8 měsíci

      @@GumbyDaGreatWith all due respect my friend, Curry cooks the best defenders in THE NBA. How long haven’t you watched an NBA game? Sincerely. Because your comment can’t be serious. Have a nice day.

  • @warriorj8658
    @warriorj8658 Před 8 měsíci

    Magic is universally loved and respected. The resume is there. Curry is right there in the conversation. Im a Warrior fan and Steph is everything here. Im not ready to put Steph over Magic yet but he’s right there. But Curry has impacted the game as much as anyone ever.

  • @gregphillipsel9906
    @gregphillipsel9906 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Zeke is in the convo. Less offensive help with more defense than both of them.

  • @tigerhoods7927
    @tigerhoods7927 Před 8 měsíci +15

    Steph curry finally getting the respect he deserves

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 Před 8 měsíci

      But, he didn't do anything to deserve it.

  • @gualacheesesteak
    @gualacheesesteak Před 8 měsíci +28

    They really need to stop over-glorifying offensive players with no defensive team selections . I’m sorry but you can’t be the best at a position with no defensive team selections or DPOY🤷🏽‍♂️. All the other greats at their positions have those things

    • @GrandmasterZen
      @GrandmasterZen Před 8 měsíci

      Thankyou, well said.

    • @obi3924
      @obi3924 Před 8 měsíci +25

      Magic was never known for his defense bro what are you talking about?

    • @nikjd11
      @nikjd11 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@obi3924lmfao exactly he could play 1-5 but doesn’t mean he was great

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you!!!

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@obi3924 This applies to Magic as well.

  • @nbaburn3569
    @nbaburn3569 Před 8 měsíci

    2nd to Magic dude was Finals MVP in his Rookie season and he was force to retire at a prime age of 32

  • @tyt6877
    @tyt6877 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Gotta go with Magic here. He did it all in less seasons as well, having to leave the game in his prime due to HIV (Not gonna count the 32 games he came back for years later, in which he still played at a high level)

  • @MauMauBinghi
    @MauMauBinghi Před 8 měsíci +8

    Steph is a shooting guard by style of play.. This is the era of position less basketball. He's an undersized shooting guard.., like AI and Kyrie. Magic's passing ability is just as unique as Steph's shooting ability.

    • @Bnoise22
      @Bnoise22 Před 8 měsíci

      He can play traditional tho.. but why limit his game to that?

    • @easylife6348
      @easylife6348 Před 8 měsíci

      Bruh at the end of the day he’s still a PG. Steph can avg 11 apg if he wanted to but draymond doing most of the passing.

  • @tae5257
    @tae5257 Před 8 měsíci +3

    This is just Stephen a being a Stephen curry fanboy like usual no objectivity at all he’s not magic Johnson smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @FreedomFighter2112
    @FreedomFighter2112 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Career Résumé…Total Achievements: (Titles, MVPs, Finals MVPs, 1st All-NBA, 1st All-DEF)
    1) Jordan = 36
    2) LeBron = 30
    3) Kareem = 29
    4) Kobe = 28
    4) Duncan = 28
    6) Magic = 20

    To put things into perspective, Stephen Curry only has 11…he’s not even close to the great ones.

    NBA Titles:
    Magic = 5
    Curry = 4

    MVPs:
    Magic = 3
    Curry = 2

    Finals MVP:
    Magic = 3
    Curry = 1

    All-NBA 1st Team:
    Magic = 9
    Curry = 4

    NBA Assist Titles:
    Magic = 4
    Curry = 0

    Career triple doubles
    Magic = 138
    Curry = 10

    Curry is not a true point guard. You have to be a facilitator of the team in order to be a point guard. He is more of a shooting guard. Even Curry himself admitted in an interview that Draymond Green is more of a point guard than him. LeBron James and Draymond Green are better facilitators than Stephen Curry. Magic will always be the greatest point guard of all time. Case closed.

  • @ranilcurry615
    @ranilcurry615 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Gils Arena show always must see TV!!!

  • @exa0247
    @exa0247 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Agree, Steph Curry is the greatest PG of all time, he changed the game and his impact is out of this world

  • @iSethWoods
    @iSethWoods Před 8 měsíci +4

    Steph is rightfully placed as the greatest shooter of all time and his impact on transforming the game is just as great as well. That doesn't make him the best "point guard" ever, though.

  • @BottingIsWhatIdo
    @BottingIsWhatIdo Před 8 měsíci +2

    Greatest shooting guard arguably, greatest point guard still magic

    • @specialknees6798
      @specialknees6798 Před 8 měsíci

      I feel like there are some pretty big name shooting guards you seem to be forgetting… Curry is the best player at the 1 spot. Whether he fulfills the role of a traditional pg is irrelevant, because he adds greater value to the team with his scoring and off ball abilities. If Steph acted like an old school pg, he’d just be Chris Paul with the greatest jump shot of all time. Steph is far more than that.

  • @joshchacko7729
    @joshchacko7729 Před 6 měsíci

    When he bounces the ball, it's like a pass to himself. Well said sir.

  • @anthonycelestin3559
    @anthonycelestin3559 Před 8 měsíci +5

    So if Curry surpassed Magic and most people got Magic over Kobe, then is Curry over Kobe?

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +1

      This whole question is cap. Neither Magic or Curry play legit defense. They're only offensive players. Kobe was an time great offensive player & an argument can be made that he was a Top 10-20 defensive player in league history. 9x All NBA Defense 1st Team, 12x overall. That's Top 3 ever next to Duncan & Garnett. We could probably add Wilt, Russell, Hakeem, GP, Stockton, JKidd, Ben Wallace, Ron Artest, Tony Allen, Bruce Bowen, Dennis Rodman, Sidney Moncrief, Mark Eaton, Karl Malone, David Robinson, Pippen, and Drexler, but Kobe is still right there with them.

    • @Grievous_
      @Grievous_ Před 8 měsíci +1

      Nobody got Magic over Kobe unless you a super Magic fan or a super Kobe hater

    • @anthonycelestin3559
      @anthonycelestin3559 Před 8 měsíci

      @@melvinhhcp3615 I don’t agree with it, I’m just questioning people’s motives when they come to these all time ranking. A lot of these list be on selective polticin stuff and when people make these all time list they don’t keep that same energy for everybody else.
      So many fan are so insistent on putting Curry over Magic but when it comes to Kobe being in that convo people don’t want to go in that rabbit hole. Kobe always get the short end of the stick when it comes to these all time ranking but they change their criteria of how they make the list when you give them the evidence otherwise.
      I bet you if I told Stephen A Smith about the Kobe aspect, he will have Magic over Curry. I say this because last time I seen Stephen A Smith top 10 list, he had Magic over Kobe

    • @anthonycelestin3559
      @anthonycelestin3559 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Grievous_ A lot of people got Magic over Kobe, even Stephen A had Magic over Kobe with the last top 10 he made & shared on ESPN

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@anthonycelestin3559 Stephen A doesn't make sense.

  • @ivanp2490
    @ivanp2490 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Stephen A Smith talking about the impact Curry has made when Magic and Larry saved the league.

  • @roozbehbey
    @roozbehbey Před 8 měsíci +1

    I think losing to the Cavs after being up 3-1 should be a factor in this topic.

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 Před 8 měsíci

      @@DeeRG Steph has never been the best player in the finals.

  • @thegeakshow
    @thegeakshow Před 8 měsíci

    Whoa we are in a new era! They actually acknowledging us here on the Tube okay okay "they're learning"

  • @rickey4591
    @rickey4591 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Anybody with logic knows what’s going to happen when there is a 6’9” guard going against a 6’2” guard.

    • @michaelthreepeat
      @michaelthreepeat Před 8 měsíci +1

      Magic is better but height is not a valid argument.

    • @rickey4591
      @rickey4591 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@michaelthreepeat magic is better because of its height. It would be a different story if both of them were the same height.

  • @dwoodstwin
    @dwoodstwin Před 8 měsíci +5

    Humility is completely lost on this generation. It used to be looked down upon to talk about yourself like that

    • @khalilcook3018
      @khalilcook3018 Před 8 měsíci

      Facts 💯.

    • @EduFabolous
      @EduFabolous Před 8 měsíci +3

      the f u talking bout, the moment young players are humble you criticize and call them soft and no having no drive

    • @GrandmasterZen
      @GrandmasterZen Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@EduFabolousPeople admire humility not arrogance... although in America im starting to wonder.

    • @dwoodstwin
      @dwoodstwin Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@EduFabolous nah, that makes no sense

    • @dwoodstwin
      @dwoodstwin Před 8 měsíci

      @@GrandmasterZen at least they used to. Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird… none of them have EVER claimed to be “the greatest”. They always gave reverence to the guys before them. That’s respect. It’s lost in this generation

  • @cibanguciban2571
    @cibanguciban2571 Před 8 měsíci

    Career 3pts % over .42 and he doesn't take easy 3 in the corner with nobody around him (S/O PJ Tucker I love you champ😊❤)
    Man is double, triple 😂😂 and he doesn't care, cash most of the time
    Love him

  • @eduardoarancibia169
    @eduardoarancibia169 Před 8 měsíci

    He and Magic are the best PGs that have ever played the game. No need to fight iver 1 and 2, both are absolutely amazing on their own.
    The game today is so different than on magic's era that you might say they are different sports.

  • @duhduhduhdiesel1436
    @duhduhduhdiesel1436 Před 8 měsíci +7

    **We live in a positionless world** but he's not a point guard, lmao

  • @midwestent.7010
    @midwestent.7010 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think magic still got it by a slim margin

    • @johndo6175
      @johndo6175 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Slim? Ridiculous

    • @theoo149
      @theoo149 Před 8 měsíci

      Hes far better pg than curry i still dobt have curry over cp he just shoots better than all these guys on a team that compliments shooting 3s

  • @cedrickcarson
    @cedrickcarson Před 8 měsíci +1

    I feel like Stephen A is the reason “Marksmanship” is a word in today’s vocabulary! 🤔

  • @WarrantChen
    @WarrantChen Před 8 měsíci

    I can sort of agree with Stephen A Smith said Steph Curry and Magic were tied for impact. For him to say it's definitively is kind of a stretch. It can be a pick em depending on what your team needs. Magic was a ruthless competitor, can't say the same for Steph Curry. Steph Curry's value to his team is so great, that I don't think GS wins without him, but the same can be said with Magic.

  • @Ghost-zp5og
    @Ghost-zp5og Před 8 měsíci +7

    He’s not even a pure pg

    • @ninety8grovebaby701
      @ninety8grovebaby701 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Magic wasn’t either, 6’9 is not no dam pg

    • @Freddy-kw5hq
      @Freddy-kw5hq Před 8 měsíci +7

      @@ninety8grovebaby701 height has nothing to do with being a point guard

    • @2flyrell647
      @2flyrell647 Před 8 měsíci

      He is bro stop what you doing

    • @theprocess828
      @theprocess828 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@Freddy-kw5hqthank you

    • @Big_talks.
      @Big_talks. Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@ninety8grovebaby701magic was pure bro lol

  • @shawnslawter4497
    @shawnslawter4497 Před 8 měsíci

    Plz Magics impact as a 6'9 point guard changed the game. 10 finals 5 rings. Greatest passer ever.

  • @Reggie_J
    @Reggie_J Před 8 měsíci

    ESPN u wrong for not clipping just at least the convo 😭😂🤌🏾

  • @CoachRJ334
    @CoachRJ334 Před 8 měsíci +2

    To me Curry is the best Pg ....we all have our favorites or who we think is the best at what position .....Steph is the best PG of all time in my opinion

  • @rogerrowles8702
    @rogerrowles8702 Před 8 měsíci

    Dam Right!! ✌️🙂

  • @khaddaffi30
    @khaddaffi30 Před 8 měsíci

    Magic Johnson's converse is under the armour of Steph curry Steph without question

  • @kuunami
    @kuunami Před 8 měsíci +2

    Curry's performance in the finals against Boston put him above Magic to me. Steph is on my all time starting 5. Curry, Jordan, Duncan, LeBron, Olajuwon.

  • @billkobe362
    @billkobe362 Před 8 měsíci

    Guys, here we are forgetting something. Something that the statistics do not count but all of us who have seen Curry play know it:
    1-Curry stretches and deforms any defense until it breaks without even having to touch the ball.
    2-Its enough for him to run through the screens and panic seizes all the opposing players and the attention he attracts makes them make mistakes in rotations that lead to easy basket for their temmates.
    3-If thats not a way to give assists, then what is?
    4-We have to invent an indicator that calculate this impact because like Curru this is unprecedent.
    5-We can't say that about any other player in history. Not even from you MJ.
    6-Even so, i still believe that Magic is the best pure point guard ever

  • @geebster.
    @geebster. Před 8 měsíci

    With point guards you have to split the category in my mind. Pure pass first guys and then scorers. Would be smarter to not look at position at all though. Just talk about him being the greatest shooter of any position and one of the greatest scorers. Given their system he should be compared against historic SGs and some wings.

  • @ardoario4990
    @ardoario4990 Před 8 měsíci

    Magic Johnson has been my Goat of all times for many reasons, including the fact that he played the game with so much love and passion, also for winning 5 championships, including his first championship as a rookie and to win that final game of the series without Kareem, and he only played like what 12 seasons? Magic also still has the most triple double in NBA history and did it as I mentioned before 12 seasons. I’m saying all of this to say that Curry is the only player I have been able to compare to Magic as far as not only the way he plays the game with that same love and passion but so far has 4 championships, and of course he is the best shooter in the history of the NBA, I don’t believe he is done winning championships and think that he will surpass my beloved Magic but again I don’t minded at all, Curry is well deserving of being in my mind the Goat!!!

  • @DanTheSpearMan
    @DanTheSpearMan Před 8 měsíci

    I think the impact of how Steph Curry changed the game compared to the impact that Magic had keeping the nba popular is really similar. Because if Magic and Bird don’t appear…who knows if the league is like it is today. As mainstream. So both dudes don’t have the same kind of impact, it’s different. But both very important

  • @itsmelomann8210
    @itsmelomann8210 Před 8 měsíci

    How quick ppl change they ideas