Cobra Reflex Bag VS Double End Bag- WHICH ONE IS BETTER?
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Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
00:24 - Cobra Bag Comparison
Ringside Double End Bag
www.ringside.com/ringside-ape...
Title King Cobra Reflex Bag
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MY HAND SIZE FOR REFERENCE
9 1/4 " Wide from side of index finger to side of pinky finger
8" Tall from bottom of palm to top of middle finger
11" Closed Fist Circumference - Sport
I tried the double end bag for the first time yesterday and the second time I punched it it got mad and hit me back right on my left eye Hahahaha. Shits harder than it looks
Lol happens to all of us
i agree...guess the tension makes a big difference
Hahaha You gotta be fast for it not to hit you'Like pro boxer Ryan Garcia😁✌️
How fucking close are you to it??
It's not how hard u hit it but how well you hit it. It's great for timing your punches perfect. U think that's hard try a speed bag.
Double end bag, enough said....
Yup
And it's way cheaper too
Theres a reason the double end bag is in every gym and the cobra isnt.
Definitely true
Because double end bags cost around 40$ and cobra literally 300$
There are some great tutorials on YT if you do want to make a cobra bag.
because of the price really.
Because they’re easier to maintain and cheaper
This video helped me decide on a double end bag. After using it for over a month, I have no regrets. Great video. Thank you Carlo.
Thanks brother
Thanks for the info. I was actually trying to decide between the two and now I will eventually have both
Nice, 2 is better than 1
You did a great job explaining as well as showing what it does
Thanks man
Keep your channel going brother, soon it'll grow, I like the simplicity you bring to boxing👍
The disadvantage of the double end bag, you need to have somewhere to attache it to. If your in a rental property you may not be allowed to make holes in the ceiling and floor. Whereas the cobra bag is free standing. At the moment I'm using the lonsdale ironman dummy, because I've nowhere to hang a bag.
Yup very true
I bought a title reflex bag back in 2007 (or earlier, I cant remeber) and it came with an air pump bag instead of the foam material the new ones come with. It works best when its anchored into the ground and when you put some power into your punches you get that satisfying pop and it comes back at you as fast as a double end bag.
Thanks man good advice
I got tired of replacing the weak bladders that go in my double end bag so I stuffed it with foam. Works great although it likely slows the bag’s response a little.
Great review and very informational... please keep them coming!
Thanks man
thx for the good review for someone interested to expand one's own fighting art.
The cap made me subscribe, the in-depth details kept me around. GL Thanks!
Thanks brother! Go Sharks!
csquaredboxing gotta love jumbo joe
The cobra sounds like a squeaky old office chair while the double ended bag sounds like _boxing_ , which does it for me. Besides, you can have intense workouts with hard shots on the double ended as well, you just have to be somewhat good at it to pull it off.
Thanks for the clear explanation! really helped me to learn about the reflex bag which i havent had the chance to try my hands on before
No prob
Love the in depth comparison
Thanks!
Excellent instruction / info on difference and
Tech both bags . Thank you . Good job
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Great explanation! Thanks so much for posting this.
No prob
Great overview of both. Will have to check out your other videos.
Thanks 🙏🏼
Great video would just like to add that with much more you can do with a double end bag depending on how you set it up I have mine set to loose and that certainly does fly around the harder you punch that faster it comes back and I can even throw combos close to full extension which makes the workout even more difficult when the tapping motion becomes too easy. Don't forget there are also different materials that come with the DEB which also makes the rebound a lot more harder to predict changing the cord to a bungee cord also adds another dimension where by the bag starts to move in an up and down motion (a few inches up and down from centre) as well when you hit it picks up momentum. TIGHT setting for flow and movement Loose for conditioning and simulation of punches coming your way.
Thanks man!
Ye
So true. It becomes almost an entirely different workout training tool depending on the bungee cords you use.
Great video brother u answered a few questions i had about the cobra bag
Thanks homie
Thank you man, very helpful
I loke shadow fighting..in front of mirror. Im broken English so like 👍
Nice me too
Yeah I shadow Box but I’m planning to buy a Bag or Cobra
great tips man! I was on the fence but think I will go with the double end bag for sure.
No prob
I like how Canelo actually looks like a rookie on the cobra bag compared to Ryan ...but in the actual ring ....😆
Yup sometimes there’s more than meets the eye
Is cause Ryan is much more speed. Not that much build. I’m fast ass fuck too but fucking small in size.
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Love your content! Quality stuff
Thank you
Great video bro really appreciated 💯💪🏼
Thanks! 🙏🏼🥊
Really appreciate this info brother thank you so much.
no prob
Yes carnale keep channel going . Many 1st timers get knowlged
From vatos like you thanks
Thanks homie
Both are good but in my opinion the double end is king for teaching eye to hand coordination. Thank god I got my cobra reflex bag 10 years ago a $160 lol. It's like 300 now lol!! Thank u Ryan Garcia hahaha. Good video my guy. Mabe next video some tips on foot work and head movement? God bless
Thanks and will do
Thanks for the info. Very helpful.
No prob
Excellent break down!
Thanks
The exact video i needed wow
Double end bag...next question! :)
Yup!
But how is it better bc to even tho the cobra can break and is expensive if u take Money out of it to hit the cobra u have to have power and be precise so u get 2 in 1 were as the double end u will only get precision
@@yaboijonnydaplug2251 nah, not only precision, it's way more random than cobra. Also usually you need a lot more equipment and stuff besides medium bags... Also you can buy smaller and more harder verisons.
Gonchii Quirogaa everything u just said u get from a cobra bag but cobra u actually use power
Dinamis never good for power though, the cobra definitely has the W there
Thank you man very helpful
No prob!
underrated channel. you deserve more subscribers and views
Thanks bro!
csquaredboxing of course man! thank you for all the good information!
this cobra kai t-shirt is really cool. great video thx
Thanks!
Good breakdown! I was telling a client of mine that the double end bag is cost effective and is more adjustable 🎯
I like both but I like the cobra bag better in my opinion it simulates more of a real fight situation which is why I like it more and for better head movement that’s just my opinion but both are good tools only down side it’s limited and could break if you go all out which both aren’t meant for that just for head movement,foot work,timing,and reaction stuff Like that
Yeah those are good points for sure
Agreed
Thanks buddy you just pointed me in the right direction
No prob
Great video! Thx!
Thanks
Well done! Thanks; keep going.
Thanks
Love the raw Description between the two. U help back no PUTCHS lol
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I was thinking about adding a cobra bag. But maybe not now. Another downside to the cobra bag may be that it takes up much more space, or that its harder to get out of the way. My reflex bag tucks away nicely. I hear many reviews of the other type where they are sad about them breaking... Thanks. This was the review I was looking for :)😎
Thanks for the video! im sold double end bag it is!!!
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Thanks for the vid!
No problem!
I recently purchased the TITLE Boxing Pro Horizontal Speed Ball. It is kinda of horizontal double end bag, put it is an actual solid leather ball with a much smaller diameter. I think it's great for home if you don't have much room.
That’s dope man I’ll check it out
Double end all day!! I just ordered a new one will be in this week!!
Right on!
$250 bucks! I'll stick with my double end bag.
I have the 5" ringside double end bag, gives me a great workout
Thank you.. Good video was debating which bag to get my son he’s 14 and Boxer, he has a trainer and we are a the gym a lot, so I agree with getting a work out on the cobra vs the double end bag, he needs it more for weaving, bobbing, slipping “Hopefully I said those right lol” and eye coordination, also money wise there’s a big difference in price so we will go with double end bad. Thanks again😊
No prob good luck to you guys
Super helpful thank you
No prob
Double end all day everyday! The title foam infused D.E.B is pretty awesome!
Agreed
Nice explanation.
I need get cobra flex bag, I have done videos with Hyperflex Strike flex bag, I like your videos bro..... We should do video together and for uk people
Great content. Haha.. do all these companies send this gear out to you to review?
Thanks man. Some do, but the majority I purchase on my own.
I love the video. I’m trying to get into boxing for cardio and strength training among free weights I have in the hose because I canceled my gym membership due to COVID. For the price of a cobra bag, I rather invest in a free standing heavy bag. (Any suggestions btw not over $300). I ordered a cheap double end bag on eBay to start. My coworker put up a heavy bag we hit after hours and the workout is great. Wish I could hang a heavy bag since it’s cheaper but I have no where essential to place it as I would have to reinforce my ceiling lol 😆
Try century free standing bags
Great videos man 👌.. good for boxing I'm a fan🇵🇭
Thanks pare!
Great video. I was wondering your opinion on the tennis reflex ball cap like the one Lomachenko uses
Cool device to work on reflexes and hand eye coordination
thank you for this!! trying to figure out what to get my bf for his bday and now I know
No prob
I'm considering a cobra bag. Would really like a double end one but the ceiling in my basement is way too low.
Nice!
I improvised my double end bag. I used a small basketball. It is very hard to hit because it is small and it swings faster because of the bounce from the air pressure. Plus maybe I was kinda careless on how I tied it that whenever I punch it I couldn't predict where it was going
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I have both. The Boxing Bar reflex bag is too predictable because the weight of the ball means that it arcs predictably. The time it takes to swing from one side of its range to the other is enough to be pretty sure of landing your shot on it. So it isn't very challenging. I use it mostly for footwork drills and it is pretty good for warming up and down. But it adds less technical value than a well set up double ended bag
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So basically an air filled reflex bag is the way forward for reflex bags
Thanks for the review. I'm actually using The Title Cobra Bag and the conditioning level is very high especially with 5 Punches combo in a row. Are you going to review Black Mamba by Grodex too?
No prob and no I won’t be reviewing grodex
For the double end bag, you can use the round color codes exercise bands. I have used various poundages and also tried two bands top and bottom. All give different results. I currently use two 80lb. Bands. One top and one bottom. My ceiling height is ten feet. I stretch the bands tight pulling the bands through a ring on the floor and the ceiling and use heavy duty tie wraps and duck tape to secure it. The result is that I get a LOT of resistance. You can deliver power to this thing and not have it go half way across the room. The bands now come with metal clips. I clip on at the bag and cut the clip off the other end, and adjust at the ceiling and the floor.
Good info thanks bro
I love the double end bag 💯 it's so much fun once you get it
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Awesome gloves
Good video man
Thanks
If that cobra bag is planted to the floor really well, it think it would be more satisfying to use.
One question, I just watched your video about Decha Boxing Gloves, do you think they are the best in terms of wrist support as main concern and also overall quality for that price? Thank you !
They’re good quality just too snug and takes some breaking in
Most people have their double end bags strung too tight. If you have it set up properly a stiff shot should have it coming back to you so you have to block or move not to get hit. Much more useful than the reflex bag. There are some good tutorials on how to make a reflex bag using pvc, they seem to have better action than the commercial models.
Agreed, gotta use it to its full potential
I just recently buyed a Double End Bag from a shop very near to me but it has steel hooks right at the end of bag without any strap that hook hurts my hand should I replace it or What else you recommend me in the regard ?
Get some foam and electrical tape and wrap it around the hooks
Petition to Carlo to bring back this gangsta of a intro. 🙏😔
😂 🙏🏽
You can adjust the speed of the rebound on each double end bag, or separate models?
I really prefer the double end bag. I think it’s more challenging.
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Got a reflex bag recently. $50 Aus from Kmart. Had to drill holes and bolt the 2 halves together to make it more snug, but now it's pretty damn good.
Foam ball is very solid to hit on the rebound, but I don't use gloves.
1/2 hour on that is a a good fun workout, and I have it outside so get some fresh air and sun at the same time. ✊😎
Nice!
Double end bag ; 20$ Slip bag ; and ive head good things about water bouy on amazon instead of aqua bags . Thanks for the content .
Thanks!
With all due respect, the argument made for the doubleend bag is not tenable nor very persuasive. However: it does in the end tell me that you're oldschool (in spirit at least) and I dig that.
At any rate, good work w/ your videos, brother; they're worth the watch.
I want a cobra bag and have been looking at them a long time but cost is a factor. I actually just made a double ended bag during quarsntine and it works great. I spend a lot of time on the double ended bag (I want it small and as fast as possible. Ha!) and the speed bag at my gym so needed something for home... Was also thinking about a speed bag but noise and vibration may be a factor for my neighbours if I set it up in my garage since it's attached to my neighbours garage. Still thinking about it and how to noise proof it. Good video though! Thanks!
Thanks man, cobra bag is nice but not a necessity, the double end bag is a better overall training apparatus
hi dee, I have a couple of ideas to share.. for a double end bag, mine is pretty small ..its made by Title and is a teardrop shape, much like a small speedbag but it has loops on the top and bottom for the bungee cords..that one is fast but it makes noise... i often like to workout late nite and it keeps rattling the cieling... my gym is in basement...so I also made a double end prescision ball, 5 to 6 inches and its a dense foam...I used a coat hanger to make a hole all the way through it and then attached some thin elastic bungee cord to the coat hanger end and pushed it thru the ball...suspend both ends of the elastic ...I have a small eyehook in ceiling and the lower end is tied to a 10 pound dumbell on the floor... the ball is so lite that it doesnt stress the eyehook or move the dumbell..its silent and is great for flow work or slipping and countering...reallly ,anything i would do on the regular double end, can be done on the small one... you dont need the gloves, I just use wraps, but often, i dont even bother with them...its a small target and takes skill to hit it clean... when you are working with prescision , Not having the gloves on takes lots more accuracy becuz ur hands are smaller and ur aiming at a small target,,,,its too easy with the gloves on..... when u find the hieght and tension u want , put a knot in the elastic on each end so that the ball doesnt ride up or fall down the cord... as for parts, i got the ball for a buck at the Dollar store in the kids area and the bungee elastic at walmart in the crafts section.. total cost under `5 bucks..
can you do a boxing glove collection video?
Maybe sometime in the future
i wonder which one is better for head movement. ive only used a DE for years on and off and never a cobra. looks like the cobra bag really tries to hit you which is what i want
Good vid
Thanks!
I’m kinda leaning more towards the reflex bag because it seems like more of a workout.
Yeah you get a little more conditioning with it
Thanks csquareboxing, I'm deciding to purchase either the Reflex Bag, Cobra Reflex Bag, or Double End Bag; and your video has helped in my decision, as I narrowed my purchase to the Cobra Reflex or Double End. I'll likely get the Double End Bag, and will chose either 5" or 7" or 9" size. The 7" is the happy medium which is likely my choice. Any suggestions on size? Thanks!
Get the cleto Reyes double end bag. End of story.
@@csquaredboxing I purchased the Cleto Reyes per your suggestion. Thanks.
I remember a kid walking into our gym when I was a kid and the trainer told him to hit the double end bag lightly and he didn’t listen literally as soon as the trainer was walking away he tried to be funny and he hit it as hard as he could it sprang straight back at his face and bust his nose blood everywhere and the trainer just said “told you” 😂
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Is there a such thing as a weighted [or aqua] double end bag that could theoretically emulate the resistance of a cobra reflex bag?🤔
Could you fill a double end bladder with water to emulate spring resistance? 🧐🤔
(I would guess, in large part, no. But ey, who knows? 🤷🏼♂️)
I haven’t seen one yet but that’s an interesting idea
Adding resistance to a double end bag would remove one of the bag's major benefits. Using a double end bag trains a fighter to maintain proper form & react appropriately when they miss their target. The feedback that a weighted double end bag would give would nullify that aspect.
On the other hand, it's worth a try.
Noob here, do I need to use particular gloves to uses either of these bags?? Do I even need gloves period?
Omg is no one gonna mention this guy's dope ass shirt?!?! 💯
I legit wanna get the Cobra Kai cobra tattooed on my back with with *No Mercy* underneath it cause I was born in the year of the snake 🐍
I'm also gonna get *Strike First* tattooed on my left arm cause it's my lead and on the right it's gonna say *Strike Hard* cause I'm right dominant 🤜💥🤛
Thanks bro
Thats pretty dope idea would love to see how it turns out if you follow through with it
@csquaredboxing in setting up the double end bag, the bag should be set to head level?
Yes right at nose level
I made my own double end bag with a futbol ball and it works perfectly!
Nice!
If you already got a heavy bag - get the double end bag. If you don't, get the cobra because it also works on power.
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I have a tuff wear double end bag, it’s starting to wear out. Do u like the ringside bag or would u recommend a different one. I’ve heard that RDX bags are poor quality
The ringside is decent quality, if I were to recommend one get the title gyro balanced double end bagb
Thanks brother
RDX is not poor quality, you’ve been misinformed by a fool.
PPV PLUG rdx is shit 😂😂
Devon 27 you can’t afford RDX 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Which size double end bag should I use
To make a cobra bag all you need is one of those spring bar exercises you can buy on ebay for $12. Mount a soccer ball onto a toilet plunger. Either make a base out of concrete or buy an umbrella stand base. I could make one for $30. In Australian dollars these are like $400. My home made reflex bag is better than any of those everlast ones.
Good video
Thanks!
you make good videos......a word of advice tho.....invest in a microphone system, your vocals are very low........keep up the good work
Will do thanks for the suggestion
I made my mind thanks
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I definitely go with the double end bag
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Double-end.. and I like 'er loose..
Been looking into a spar bar.. Is It worth it? Or should I just hang the heavy on a swivel and slap on a slipstick?
I don’t think the spar bar is worth it
I wouldn't waste your money mate. Get a cheap pool noodle, cut it in two and have someone work em for ya. If you want a more firm feel, cut them and put small pvc pipe in them. As far as home gyms and self training go... double end bag, cylinder like aqua bag, a 15" or under aqua bag and if you have space a 17 or 21 inch round aqua bag (but never buy a brand name, polyform Norway or USA and with aqua bags always never ever let them get cold). All of this should be under 250 USD.
I have both and I'm having the best time of my life
That’s all you can ask for
Does anyone make a cobra with a replaceable spring?
Not that I know of yet unless you do a custom weld job or bring it to a fabricator