"No Wonder No-one Wants To Do This Work!!" | Terminating Pyro | Consumer Unit Relocation

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  • In this video I’m terminating 16mm H Pyro - Mineral Insulated Copper Cable (MICC) as I help a client relocate a consumer unit as part of a renovation.
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    Time stamps
    00:00 Preview of this job
    00:31 Background to the job
    02:07 Reviewing existing Pyro installation
    10:02 Starting the job
    10:33 Pulling the main fuse
    12:28 Pulling the Pyro through
    16:46 Terminating the Pyro cable
    21:57 Testing
    24:00 Connecting the consumer unit

Komentáře • 148

  • @Echo1AbleProject
    @Echo1AbleProject Před rokem +39

    The Man, The Myth, The Legend! Great content as always.

  • @glynluff2595
    @glynluff2595 Před rokem +2

    Gosh! I remember training on pyro I the seventies when it was all screw. The Forman turned up and produced the largest adjustable spanner I have ever seen and slammed it down the pyro onto the fitting which vanished across the workshop. ‘Now do it again’ was the command! The second one held. He smiled and said I could go offshore then. I did it only until about 1978 and never went near it again.
    You used to have an insurance reduction if your house or premises were wired in it. A chap who worked at a factory learned this and smuggled it out, premeasured, wrapped around his body. One day he fell off his bike near security and it took two mates to pick him up and put him back on his bike! Thought it might make some of you smile!

  • @milansusuk8164
    @milansusuk8164 Před rokem +6

    Nice to see you back. Hope you are well.

  • @artisanelectrics
    @artisanelectrics Před rokem +7

    I used to do a fair bit of Pyro in my apprentice days working on English heritage properties - would love to get involved in some more again to sharpen my skills!

  • @tubejogger
    @tubejogger Před rokem +5

    Great to have you back Delroy. Proper real life sparking videos.

  • @proballer983
    @proballer983 Před rokem +5

    Last Pyro job I did was in a new hospital, I did a whole x-ray dept made the ends off tested it all got the polarity marked then moved onto the next area. Only to come back to final fix so checked polarity on everything and all of it was down to earth, after an investigation turned out the manufacturer had a bad batch of pots go figure. Plasterer was happy with the extra work, as was my boss eventually when he didn't have to pay for the fix. Loved doing pyro though proper job.

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Před rokem +4

      Oh wow never heard any thing like that, Pyro can be problematic if not installed properly. Your case is unique thanks for watching.

  • @mcginn002
    @mcginn002 Před rokem +3

    Good to have you back Del Roy 👍👍

  • @davidpolden2192
    @davidpolden2192 Před rokem +1

    Great to have you back, missed your great videos.

  • @ajs2120
    @ajs2120 Před rokem +2

    Good to see you back!

  • @Ivorbiggin
    @Ivorbiggin Před rokem +10

    Great to see your back Del 🎉 I used to love working with pyro back in the day
    A great job well done Delboy

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Před rokem

      Hi thanks for watching, some sparkys did like working with Pyro back in the days

  • @dans5101
    @dans5101 Před rokem

    Great to see you back Del! Thanks for the vid

  • @nuisanceneighbour
    @nuisanceneighbour Před rokem +3

    Great to see you back Del!

  • @TDPAviationAndGaming
    @TDPAviationAndGaming Před rokem +1

    Did miss your videos, glad you’re back!

  • @williambrown1073
    @williambrown1073 Před rokem

    Good to see you back. Like watching your videos.

  • @adierob1
    @adierob1 Před rokem +10

    Nice to see you back del, you made the job look to easy with your skill and patience. I used to do a lot of pyro work in the early 90's and still have a load of pyro tools made by bicc (British insulated calenders cables) we where taught how to do pyro at college which sadly isn't taught now to these young sparks. Great video and looking forward to more of them

  • @lewistempleman9752
    @lewistempleman9752 Před rokem +1

    I love the way you fix the cable!

  • @tonystewart6592
    @tonystewart6592 Před 26 dny

    I Like the way Del had to get up on the steps while potting the pot on the Gland to get some extra Torque ..lol..MI you either love it or hate it but its an Art working with it...When FP200 came on the scene it was a Golden as you just needed a Tail Cutter tool and so easy to work with ..Bless

  • @1simonreed
    @1simonreed Před rokem +1

    Hi Del. Really missed your content, glad to see you back. 👍

  • @johndevlin980
    @johndevlin980 Před rokem +1

    Great to see you back Delroy, you have been missed!! That guy was decent to be fair, very helpful 👍

  • @trespire
    @trespire Před rokem +1

    Good to see you mate !!

  • @detroutspinners9933
    @detroutspinners9933 Před rokem

    Great to have you back Delroy!

  • @danupton3132
    @danupton3132 Před rokem

    Good to see you back del 👍

  • @monsooncaps6741
    @monsooncaps6741 Před rokem +1

    That guy kept saying. Yeah yeah yeah. Drove me crazy. Keep up the good work delroy.

  • @jeffbuss2930
    @jeffbuss2930 Před rokem +1

    Nice to see some heavy duty Pyro work - Earlier this year I had a job wiring a fire alarm in a listed building - pulled in just short of 500 lm's of 2L1.5 over three floors, around 100 terminations all told - love working (quickly lol) with the stuff 😁. Made sure to get some time in on it with all the apprentices so they could get experience of a rarely used wiring system - hope it comes in for them in later years.

  • @davidpatterson1574
    @davidpatterson1574 Před rokem

    Great to see you back Delroy

  • @Dorsetwatersofteners
    @Dorsetwatersofteners Před rokem +1

    He is back good job.

  • @reecehorner3736
    @reecehorner3736 Před rokem

    Fantastic to see you back, Really enjoyed this video. Old skills taught by Old boss's to nowadays Old apprentices, Lol glad I was taught this skill too,

  • @johnwaby4321
    @johnwaby4321 Před rokem

    Tricky stuff that MI . Have not touched any in a while.
    Done loads in my time once learned never forgotten 👍👍👍

  • @allsearpw3829
    @allsearpw3829 Před rokem +4

    Well and truly SORTED by Delroy . The man of copper and compound .

  • @kackas9896
    @kackas9896 Před rokem

    Great electrician you are
    Keep up the good work 👍

  • @nedloh17
    @nedloh17 Před rokem +3

    Used to megger the pyro at every stage. When it was pulled in and straightened out, when it was bent round, when the ends where cut and peeled back and 0f course after it was potted up.... what a bloody pain !!

  • @yacinehachani9754
    @yacinehachani9754 Před rokem

    Long time we did not see your videos.. nice to see you back

  • @muckychimney
    @muckychimney Před rokem

    PYRO - LOVE the stuff ! I honestly could spend hours doing Pyro. Once did a Grade 1 listed building completely in Pyro, everything was done in it, days on end say in a loft with huge adaptable boxes terminating and connecting them up.

  • @conradpreen2368
    @conradpreen2368 Před rokem

    Wow that brought back some memories...!

  • @peggyundjack
    @peggyundjack Před rokem

    I did my apprenticeship in the late 70‘s. Loved using Pyro though. You definitely need to check your pot after it is screwed on both visually and with a Megger. This is because the chance of a hair of copper or brass being produced when the brass pot is screwed on to the copper sheath. This happened to me a few times. If you don’t take care you’ll short the 2 cores out and you’ll have to do it all again. It can be messy. Left the UK in 81 and have worked abroad ever since. Great videos keep them coming.

  • @stephencarter6634
    @stephencarter6634 Před rokem +1

    Del, you have been missed, welcome back 👍

  • @drpantastic1969
    @drpantastic1969 Před rokem

    Just glad to see your heathy n still making videos its been a while🤗

  • @JC-pq5xl
    @JC-pq5xl Před rokem

    He is back I was driving to a holiday location and heard a beep on my phone and saw a new video I was so happy

  • @biddylisduff
    @biddylisduff Před rokem +3

    Good to see you back Delroy. I really think most non-Electricians underestimate the skills involved and the continued learning to keep up with new Regs. As someone with no training in the trade, I'm sorry the general public don't see more like this to appreciate our Trades people. The maths involved, apart from the physical skill. We should have more respect for people who build and keep our homes and buildings safe, whatever their trade.👍

  • @ass90
    @ass90 Před rokem

    Welcome back!

  • @train4905
    @train4905 Před rokem

    Brilliant jon as allways dell

  • @rob19632
    @rob19632 Před rokem

    I've still got a Pyro crimper somewhere, it must be nearly 40 years old now. I used to quite like doing Pyro.
    Good Job.

  • @GeoffRiley
    @GeoffRiley Před 6 dny

    Our flats were built in the 60s and are wired with pyro… it's always fun when an 'electrician' comes to do any work from the council and gets confused because they claim to have 'never seen that before'. I know I'd do a better job myself most of the time. I did loads of pyro work in the 90s, it was an art to do terminations and stay clean! 😁

  • @phillipbaker3860
    @phillipbaker3860 Před rokem +1

    Good to see Delroy back

  • @dav01kar
    @dav01kar Před rokem

    Good to see you Del, gave my MICC tools away to some whipper snapper.

  • @365aqualife8
    @365aqualife8 Před rokem

    The 👑 is back

  • @tomengineer1467
    @tomengineer1467 Před rokem +1

    Delroy …... 5 months missing 😮 I hope you have a doctors note for your absence let this be you first written warning 😊.... as always good video delroy keep them coming
    I spent 3 years going all over uk for a big store chain terminating pyro as thick as your arm …. Loved it
    Keep up the good videos …. Nice job Delroy

  • @malcolmjones8128
    @malcolmjones8128 Před rokem +1

    Welcome back Delroy

  • @ashleynery8092
    @ashleynery8092 Před rokem

    welcome back del

  • @lotuselise4432
    @lotuselise4432 Před rokem +23

    Always test the continuity before stuffing the compound into the pot then test again once the compound is in then test again when you crimp the cap to the pot I have seen a pot blow and take a lump of a marble wall out.

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Před rokem +4

      Good advice thanks for watching.

    • @undercoverdivers
      @undercoverdivers Před rokem

      Anyone trained in the 80’scan do that work You can hit that with a hammer to dress it 😂😂😂

    • @charliemcconville5756
      @charliemcconville5756 Před rokem +1

      You mean Test the insulation resistance

    • @lotuselise4432
      @lotuselise4432 Před rokem +1

      @@charliemcconville5756 - Nope, you test the Pyro out once you screw the pot on visually and then with the Megger as you could/can end up with copper/brass swarf in the pot, not much fun in having to take a sealed pot off.
      Pyro is what I like best, not sure if the outside lights on the VA Museum Exhibition Road side are still using the Pyro that I installed made off in the winter and snow back in 1984.
      Also I used a wind up Megger, lots of fun with naive apprentices when you asked them to hold the bare ends...........

    • @lotuselise4432
      @lotuselise4432 Před rokem

      @@undercoverdivers - Remember at Uxbridge Tech learning about Pyro, lamp at the end all powered up and the instructor hammering the shit out of it crushing the cable, was amazing stuff as it was still working as it was be crushed.

  • @The160879
    @The160879 Před rokem

    I absolutely loved working with pyro used to do a lot of it in Acotland and when I worked down in London. The last gland I done was offshore but no one told me that the new pots you needed to stick the neoprene under the pot it didn’t have the little spouts that stuck out like cows udders lol 😂

  • @jerome8670
    @jerome8670 Před rokem

    Wicked video 🎉

  • @stujham
    @stujham Před rokem

    Did loads of Pyro/Miccs back in the 70's and throughout the 80s from 1mm up to max 16mm, was a pig to do when it was freezing cold. Emergency lighting etc in Nightclubs and still got all the tools in the garage.

  • @paulconaghan9432
    @paulconaghan9432 Před rokem

    hes back !

  • @johnconaboy9461
    @johnconaboy9461 Před rokem

    I've forgotten how much mineral cable I did back in the early 80s tons and tons of it....I can also remember when FP200 and 400 gold came along thought that was the end of Pyro ....no such luck, it was a bit like marmite you either loved or hated it depending on who spect a Job, personally I loved it. I recently found a load of old hickey bars pyrotenax cable formers while clearing a load of old tools out 😃

  • @2010wembley
    @2010wembley Před rokem +1

    Used to use pyro on fire alarms, outside lights and pub toilet hand dryers in the 80’s.

  • @vince2lls511
    @vince2lls511 Před rokem +1

    Loved working on pyro .worked on marks and spencer 90% pyro work .the switch rooms looked fantastic with pyro work of art.plus try making off a 7L 1.5

    • @johnlishman4946
      @johnlishman4946 Před rokem

      oh yes done many of them in my time Vince in my early days for repeater panel's lot's of inter link's were need in high risk area's of fire next to very hot surface's in some aluminium factory next to the furnace's now shut down due to they moved oversea's the whole factory was piro

  • @lotuselise4432
    @lotuselise4432 Před rokem +5

    7 Core Pyro was my forte the supplied stripping tools where useless so made my own and sold the others off, still have the tool that I made as well well as the ringing, potting and crimper tools, I also have my 20, 25mm conduit threaders no need for a 32mm but would love to have a Hilmor conduit bender.........
    4x4 galvanised box should have been used originally.

    • @johnlishman4946
      @johnlishman4946 Před rokem +1

      av still got all my big conduit & piro tool in the attic all still in working order but now a days i don't think it will ever be used again when i am six foot under there is an Aladdin's cave up there some one is going to think what the hell are these for well it will be my son who get's them he's on my will to get the house

  • @wizard3z868
    @wizard3z868 Před rokem +1

    love watching you from the states the closest thing to pyro we have is our explosion proof conduiet and fittings we use a liqiud gel to seal the joints with at the fittings

    • @thebigmacd
      @thebigmacd Před rokem +1

      MICC is used all over the USA, most commonly for fire alarm systems.

    • @wizard3z868
      @wizard3z868 Před rokem

      @@thebigmacd interesting i live in the northeast and never seen it. i havent done much commercial either so maybe thts why ?

  • @kingcobrauk
    @kingcobrauk Před rokem +2

    I would have tested before filling just in case there wasn't a sliver of brass shorting it out, also we always used 1000 volt megger back in the day

  • @andysims4906
    @andysims4906 Před rokem +2

    I used to do work in a large house totally rebuilt in 1986. The whole house was rewired in metal conduit and Pyro

  • @juneturner7023
    @juneturner7023 Před rokem +3

    Started as an apprentice in 1964 and worked with MICC for many years

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Před rokem +1

      It used to be good watching the older sparkys working on Pyro. thanks for watching

    • @npr2002
      @npr2002 Před 6 měsíci

      what other cables did you work with when you first started? was it pvc or the old rubber stuff?

  • @davidpierre8465
    @davidpierre8465 Před rokem

    Hi Brother Delroy, how are you doing today? I am an electrician in Charleston,South Carolina. I started electrical work in 1978 in Trinidad in the West Indies. The Phyro 16mm is 60 ampere. I still remember the metric system. 1.5 mm is 15 ampere, and 2.5mm 20 ampere, and 4mm 30 ampere.

  • @ShaloMEibbotson
    @ShaloMEibbotson Před rokem +5

    I've been watching expert electrics videos because I had a very incompetent man ( I refuse to call him an electrician) come last week and the mistakes he made are still boggling my brain. He actually started work on kitchen plug sockets without switching off the main power first. And he left gaps around the sockets and tiles. Shocking!! 😲

  • @briwire138
    @briwire138 Před rokem

    I remember in the 70s when they replaced the screw on pots with the type that was held in place with a wedge. Special tool was required and they used to come off with a bit of a pull, load of rubbish.

  • @ass90
    @ass90 Před rokem +1

    I used to fail on over tightening so the ohms would be lower between L - N. It was a nightmare lol.

  • @rouman7
    @rouman7 Před rokem +1

    Takes me back to the late70s. Today lots of sparks do not use pyro , or have never used it … I am enjoying my retirement now ( since august )… but del nice to see you keeping the flag flying …

  • @BrianJohnson-bs9cw
    @BrianJohnson-bs9cw Před rokem

    Love micc work ,you can't rush it, to do it well you need some skill too it,.
    It has a long install life too

  • @kennethbooth7200
    @kennethbooth7200 Před rokem +6

    Nice video Del, why did you not run meter tails into the adaptable box. Single insulated cable come to mind, or does the additional sleeving on the Pyro constitute double insulation?

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Před rokem +1

      I took sleeving off some meter tails I had on the van and put it over the Neoprene. That made it double insulation in my mind improvisation hope that's ok 😁.

  • @aldarbz
    @aldarbz Před rokem

    Glad you're back Delroy, I'm sure I remember the old sparkies using glass beads and heat on pyro , or was that my imagination..

    • @firsteerr
      @firsteerr Před rokem +2

      you can dry the end out if the atmosphere is damp

    • @firsteerr
      @firsteerr Před rokem +1

      also NEVER blow in the pot to clear it you add moisture that affects it

    • @andysims4906
      @andysims4906 Před rokem +2

      It was not uncommon in the old days to find a pot had been incorrectly fitted and damp in the cable had caused a problem in later years. Normally the problem pot was on outside wiring. We used to take the pot off and slowly run a blow lamp over the cable to get the damp out. Damp will only travel back from the pot 12 inch max

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for watching never heard of the glass bead thing.

    • @johnlishman4946
      @johnlishman4946 Před rokem

      @@firsteerr aye take the pot off heat it with a blow torch ON LOW HEAT FROM CABLE TOWARD'S THE END QUICKLY as NOT SO YOU BURN IT and keep testing as you do so till the fault has gone many of them i have done

  • @skabbymuff111
    @skabbymuff111 Před rokem +1

    Wondered where your videos had gone!

  • @croikeyaustralianbetamales3432

    it is good practice to carry the fuse, however, there is a bank of about 15 of the same fuse carriers there
    i never use a lockout kit , i just disconnect the circuit at the fuseboard to stop any chance of it being turned on/lock broken

  • @davidclarke2513
    @davidclarke2513 Před rokem

    You should have put the button on first especially if it's a multiform micc so you know the cables are straight or use your pliers to straighten them and check carefully there are no minute shards of copper shorting the cores push the button as close as possible then put the sealant in from one side to push the air out,always put excess of sealant so when you squeeze it with the appropriate tool the excess can be wiped away and you will know that there is no air left in the pot.

  • @marcushall8432
    @marcushall8432 Před 6 měsíci

    Hello Mr Del... great content..whats the name and title of the music near the end...Cheers

  • @christopherhulse8385
    @christopherhulse8385 Před rokem +3

    I've only worked with Pyro once, in 1986 when I was learning my trade at college, never been on a job with yet in 36 years - I don't have the gear for dealing with it but can remember the procedure still for termination all these years later!

    • @kimmason8533
      @kimmason8533 Před rokem

      I've used pyro 3 times in 27 years

    • @firsteerr
      @firsteerr Před rokem

      i installed "pyro" solidly for five years from 1986 to 1991 when i eft the firm

  • @m.b-ee8815
    @m.b-ee8815 Před rokem

    Beware of getting a shock of of the 'charged ' cable after insulation test. We short the cores to the sheath. Also, did the shroud cover the bare cable sheath? Not too important on an interior cable though.

  • @londontrada
    @londontrada Před rokem

    Is that a bit of K Pop in the fast forward bit @ 17:16? Nice 😎😎

  • @thisismissem
    @thisismissem Před rokem +1

    Hey Del, Question about the music in the video.. who's it by? Sounded a little like Katy B.

  • @zachhayter9932
    @zachhayter9932 Před rokem

    I've waited so long Delroy! Thought ypu had quit

  • @tomaszj3285
    @tomaszj3285 Před rokem +2

    Where the hell have you been?
    I missed you.🤩

    • @tomaszj3285
      @tomaszj3285 Před rokem

      @ChannelMakers001 what is it?🤩🤩😘😘

  • @edge1289
    @edge1289 Před 5 dny

    What size conductors is the pyro? What size conductors feed the entire building?

  • @Law_Abiding_Citizen_ok

    Great fun potting a 19 core pyro😅

  • @Parkingpolice999
    @Parkingpolice999 Před rokem

    Can you post link for that bahco set please ? Or if anyone in comments knows it ??

  • @ricocasilli3307
    @ricocasilli3307 Před rokem

    Easy I think i could remake that off with my side cutters using the old pots and some grips

    • @ricocasilli3307
      @ricocasilli3307 Před rokem

      oh might need a new olive and some new putty, then again new pots and seals would make life much easier and more reliable

  • @florisvdk
    @florisvdk Před rokem +3

    Where is the meter though?

  • @edge1289
    @edge1289 Před 5 dny

    Residential wiring in the UK is quite different than the U.S.

  • @Dh540
    @Dh540 Před rokem

    Needs a "yeah" counter

  • @astonite3488
    @astonite3488 Před rokem

    Used to gland off 30 ends an hour no downers now they are plastic sparks

  • @krich106
    @krich106 Před rokem

    USA electrician here. That looks so awkward to me. Bet you seeing ours is similar.

  • @davidwarner7238
    @davidwarner7238 Před rokem +1

    Why did you not upgrade fuseboard to a metal one as recommended now, the the pyro could be terminated direct to it and cables to main switch also gets a good earth via gland on metal case

    • @tomengineer1467
      @tomengineer1467 Před rokem

      Hi why would delroy go for that expense ……video is only to move pyro and reconnect temp builders supply (not for regs) also bad idea to leave out main isolator before board (no local isolation possible then)
      Delroy is a master of his trade 👍

    • @tomengineer1467
      @tomengineer1467 Před rokem

      Delroy …… 5 months missing I hope you have a doctors note for your absence 😃 let this be you first written warning 😂 ….. as always good video delroy keep them coming
      I spent 3 years going all over uk for a mayor store company putting pyro ends on pyro as thick as your arm …. Loved it
      Good to see you again

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics Před rokem +1

      It is metal. But it's a temporary board anyway.

  • @shortcircuit7149
    @shortcircuit7149 Před 10 měsíci

    Personally i would have just put a metal cu in. Love pyro i grew up on it.

  • @brianhewitt8618
    @brianhewitt8618 Před rokem

    👌

  • @notbadforasparky4791
    @notbadforasparky4791 Před rokem +2

    That guy could not do enough to help you and make the job as easy as possible. Don't get many of them.

  • @nocode1603
    @nocode1603 Před rokem +1

    Rather you than me bud that looks way tricky I've never used it only fp200 thankfully think pyro is a dying art 👏

  • @craigmorrison2459
    @craigmorrison2459 Před rokem

    Surely you shouldn’t be leaving single insulated tails from the box to the main switch??

  • @FallenHoot
    @FallenHoot Před rokem

    Has Delroy been on Holiday for the last 5 months?

  • @waitikubuliwaitikubuli6180

    Wot os that opening track???? Old rockers or dub......east central caribbean....waitikubuli aka roseau dominica.....
    Are original from england or caribbean

  • @Honda_Hooligan
    @Honda_Hooligan Před rokem

    I cut my teeth terminating pyro as an apprentice over 30 years ago. Good times.

  • @GiftyBargains
    @GiftyBargains Před rokem

    Why no video for so long?

  • @HenryOCarmichaelSmith

    Proving dead using an MFT on IR WTF