The Switch 2 Features Nintendo is Thinking About Right Now - EP101 Kit & Krysta Podcast
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Hello and welcome to episode 101 of the Kit & Krysta Podcast! Thank you so much for all your lovely comments on our 100th episode. We're so glad to be here with you and here we are this week with even MORE Switch 2 discussion. Today we'll be talking about which features we want and don't want with Switch 2, and what is going at Nintendo while they makes these kinds of crucial decisions that can make or break a console launch. Also in this episode, we tell you a banana-filled story about a cursed Donkey Kong event. In games we are playing, we share our final thoughts about Prince of Persia The Lost Crown now that we've beaten the game. A lot of good stuff is coming right up! Get comfy and let's do this
0:00 - Onwards and upwards to episode 101
13:03 - Things we Do and Don't want in Switch 2
53:26 - Cursed forgotten Donkey Kong event
1:10:47 - Games we are playing (Prince of Persia The Lost Crown, Assassin's Creed Mirage, Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty)
1:31:41 - News news news
1:48:34 - Questions from our Patreon subscribers
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Kit (the Vista King himself) calling Krysta a snob over the cinematic experience statement is the funniest thing ever.
Except that Krysta spoke nothing but facts 🤡
@@thawhole9 ... that's exactly my point, 🤡.
It's funny because the fact Kit himself is calling her out over this, when he himself is all over vistas (basically visuals/graphics), AND Krysta has a pretty solid take as well.
@ 27:38 for those who are interested
Backwards Compatibility smooth as butter like DS to 3Ds I want that so much so I can insert my Switch games into the cartridge slot with ease it is that important Nintendo has done it before.
Switch 2 speculation continues to fuel me
Switch 2 is life
Trust me
What the heck am I typing lmao I meant same 😂😂
You nintendrones are weird
continue the rumor like the ye Nx days
Playing with the joy cons detached on the TV is one of my favorite things about the switch. It's so comfortable to keep my hands apart in any orientation that feels good. Sometimes behind my head, sometimes at my sides.
"Banana management" sounds like an excellent resume skill!
Here’s to another fun episode. The Nintendo Switch 2 build up is intense!
Nothing is more exciting than Switch 2. Nothing!! Ok I’m a little pumped up.
But what about eliminating the Senate filibuster. 🤤
It’s awesome to see you guys doing your own thing. Anytime someone is working first party, I tend to take what they have to say with a grain of salt. The great surprise here is that you guys are exactly the same people now as you were then. Two of my absolute favs! 👏 Keep it up 😊
Way back when I thought the Switch could be called Nintendo Nexus. You get the alliteration, the use of NX and it's the convergence of their portable and console markets. Maybe for the next one.
STREETPASS YES PLEASE! 😢
also the Wii shop music + Miiverse
OMG WE NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THESE PACK AND SHIPS!!!
I’m loving these Switch 2 predictions and speculations. I’m beyond elated about the prospect of another Nintendo console, and these videos are the perfect binge for me!
And 2 HOURS LONG?? What a treat! You two are incredible!
people expecting the Switch 2 to be as powerful as a PS5 are DELUSIONAL
I’m probably in the minority with this issue, but I think a dual screen switch would be fantastic! I’ve always thought that taking the best parts about Wii U and the switch and combining them in one system would be amazing!
I think alot of us can agree we'd rather have it than AR.
Dual screen switch would be amazing
You just removed the docked feature of the new switch. Or you doubled the price point because now you need another device like the Wii U.
@@cruncher4110 huh? Not at all. It’s still a switch with a dock, but would have a detachable 2nd screen.. that could be used as the Wii U pad while playing in docked mode. But, it would be optional if u preferred a pro controller. And developers would not have make their games around it if they did not want too.
I actually miss the dual screen. But I would not want the current Switch size with dual screen, because I feel that would be too big lol. It's hard to go back to 3DS now.
Can I just say how much I love the music you played during your Hello Fresh shout-out? Total vibe!
Just caught up with Kit's Cyberpunk segment. OF COURSE HE BETRAYED SONGBIRD AND SIDED WITH REED...
Don't worry Kit, I also did the first time! Real slow-burn Metroid Dread mission right there, down to the crawling of the robot, making it's way through vents and everything!
The real question is... did you spare or kill So-Mi inside the core?
If the Virtual Console returns 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Krysta, I just want to say: you are not the only one I NEED PENTIMENT ON SWITCH!
I was expecting them to port it soon like the Ori games, because it feels perfect for it
Honestly, as much as you might like Streetpass, the fact that it by itself hasn't translated to a mobile environment, which is way more valuable, explains that the feature isn't enough. Unless you believe both Pokémon Go and Pikmin Bloom (and Monster Hunter Now, but that's not Nintendo) are spiritual successors to SP.
I want Switch 2 to have some sort of massive group multiplayer. I miss LAN parties badly and would love some way to experience that again. Have a room full of friends team up with a high performance machine to do online stuff. However, Nintendo doesn't have tons of multiplayer online games yet, to make that worth it.
Here's a fun prediction for you: Switch 2 has built-in backwards compatibility for physical games, but backwards compatibility for digital games requires an NSO subscription
Oof that would sting. NSO for a game you already purchased. Wouldn't surprise me.
I can never tell if Kit & Krysta are good friends that just annoy each other or if they're colleagues united through their work that just dislike each other
If I were a hardware engineer or top executive at Nintendo Japan, I would probably want to get the base power of the Switch 2 to a point were Rockstar could do a port of GTA6. That would be a win for Nintendo if they were to announce that GTA6 was coming to the Switch 2. Why would you not want perhaps the most anticipated game of all time on your platform?
They could downgrade it maybe.
@@sirmel11 exactly. Not the best version available but it’s GTA6 on the go.
Id like to see everything that they missed from the Wii U to Switch transition. Microphone, camera, IR blaster, internet broweser, theme's, music player, and just more of a happy fun interface with backround tunes or at least the option to have that.
Woe that’s a hot take Krysta 😅 haha The first party games looks GORGEOUS! On a big TV !! Luigi’s mansion 3, yoshi, mario etc.. Also some games have 5.1 sound like Zelda by the way and TotK and it is awesome! And more immersive in my opinion 😊
But I understand and like the portability of the switch too
Exactly. I have no clue what she is talking about as Nintendo's first-party games look amazing in TV mode :-)
Ibappreciate Krysta's honesty about the lack of game content for price in games like Mario Wonder and Mario vs Dobkey Kong. I don't agree with their prices, but Nintendo knows they can charge it.
Shame on Kit for not even being willing to acknowledge the perspective that some Nintendo games may be overpriced.
I know a lot of people hate joycons, but I LOVE them. I only play with my Joycons in both handheld and docked mode. Mine have never had any drift. TBH I love how they started making special joycons, and would like to see it in the new one because I like collecting them. 😁
The thing i want most for switch 2 is an overall smoother, intuitive eco system that doesn't feel painfully dated.
Y'know, I could see a dual screen Switch working. If the screen slides out from the top &/or bottom of the system. Then it could launch with DS/3DS added to NSO/NSO Expansion
One think I'd love, is if the patent allowing you to change button/stick positions, came to be. I'd love to be able to put both sticks at the top/replace the left joy-cons buttons with a d-pad. Having sticks/ button units you could move around 4 slots on the joy-con, so everyone could choose their perfect configuration, would be great.
If joy-con drift is not fixed for the next-gen console, then I riot!
Wow. What an enjoyable episode of The Kit and Krysta Podcast, availible on Apple Podcasts, CZcams, Spotify, and more. I can’t wait to Switch on their insightful comments next week, when episode 102 releases on January 24th for Patrons and January 25th for the rest of the world. I’m sure it’ll be another entertaining bout. Anyway, I’ve gotta get back to playing The Mario Kart Eight Deluxe Game on my Nintendo Switch OLED Edition System *tm. Thanks for reading.
Was this comment written by AI?
@@RachelDavis705no it’s Nintendo speak. I coined the phrase myself. Imagine Reggie saying this and you’ll understand
the original one, obviously. no human writes so blandly like a gushing little child. But you might be an AI, defending the other AI.@@RachelDavis705
You don't have to sell me on Kit and Krysta's Podcast, I'm already here listening!
You don't have to sell me on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on the Nintendo Switch system, either!!
I second the Pentiment love
The idea of "backwards compatibility for digital, but not for physical" would be such a confusing mess for customers and by extension Nintendo that I really don't see that as a viable path. It's either backwards compatible or it's not. (and IMO it would be foolish not to be if this is going to be a similar system to the Switch)
I'm with Krysta, though Mario Strikers Battle League is not bad, but the fact that got tuned down, and Nintendo has been practicing the "free updates" exercise, got, not only Mario Strikers but all the other sports games, a bad perception, which i can understand, but if you have passed that, all the Mario Sports games have actually been great, however, the fact that all of them needed more development time and more custom play modes, is really notorious. But, i would love to see Mario Strikers going back to its roots, and maybe not just Strikers but all the other sports games, sometimes you don't need to keep innovating at all, just to make the game better, but, hold onto the basics. Just stay with the amount of characters that you have right now, maybe add a little few more, but, keep the game as basic as it was the first or second time. If we someday get the NGC Virtual Console, perhaps not on Switch but the next console, i'd love to see Super Mario Strikers again, after all, it's my favorite game ever. Finally, and within the Mario Sports games topic, again, not in the Switch anymore, but the next console, though i know it'll be very unlikely to happen, as i said, i'd love to see all Mario Sports games going back to the roots, kinda as in, reboots, and keeping it simple, simple enough to get them all titled Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario Strikers, etc..., in order to giving us to understand that they're reboots
I really do miss StreetPass and “DS” Download. I understand a feature like DS Download may be less feasible considering the size of game environments now. Also, the JoyCons should each have an additional button on the rail, so the JoyCon with the Home button has a screenshot button on the center of rail and the the JoyCon with the Screenshot Button has a Home Button on the rail. That way a single JoyCon use case allows a user to go Home and take a Screenshot
You gotta try Split Pad Pro. It changes the handheld experience. I would never play handheld if I didn’t have it. Joy cons are terrible. But now I mostly play switch handheld. Amazing with Split Pad Pro. Basically a pro controller attached to the device (but some missing features).
That shit either stopped working or began drifting on me. I had like 3 brand new split pad pros and they all developed problems. I’ve moved on to CRKD nitro deck and so far not a single problem and everything works great.
@@Mr-jj3gp nice. I haven’t had a problem with my split pad pro yet and I’ve had it for awhile, but I’m sure bad things happen with a lot of controllers. That’s cool you found something great. We can all agree unless you have really small hands, joycons are not fun to use.
I like the optional dock. It is the Switch and Switch Lite but in a single product. I play docked 90% of the time so I’m going to totally buy it but it needs to be more than a stand!
If you rebuy for back-compat it would need to have performance/visual upgrades as well. Then you maybe get away with the squeeze.
To be fair, Pentiment was a really really good game
99% of my Switch use is through the pro controller. That controller is one of the most comfortable well designed controllers made.
31:01 I really agree! I dont like the joycons mostly because they are so small
I don't understand why so many people think the console couldn't approach $500. It's already been shown just how much money people will pay during the tech shortages for things. The PS5 sales speed is crazy fast for $500. Nintendo will certainly sell a console with enough upgrades and features for that price.
KIT! PLEASE tell me where you got that sweater!
I really miss the personality of 3ds. I love the switch but the 3ds with streetpass alone was so fun. Walking by someone with it and having a fun mini game or puzzle pieces was a solid idea, made the nintendo community feel more intertwined. I wish we could get miiverse back as well, they brought it out at the wrong time on the wrong console. If it was on the switch imagine how much better it could be, how many more people would be using the service.
36:45 Krysta will totally toss it out LOL
49:01 Krysta’s “sweetie” took me out 😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
The name for the switch sequel i always like to propose is nintendo switch advance, such as the gameboy advance was, but that is just one of many possibilites they could go with. Great episode as always
Just because the launch gimmicks aren't used again doesn't mean they're not successful. If it's just something cool to put in an advert or tell friends about when you first get it, it gives people something to hook into and differentiate the console like you say from its predecessors and competition.
I just saw you guys on the nontendo podcast and had never seen your videos before. You guys are pretty fun (and your experience at nintendo is veery interesting to hear about). You got a new subscriber from me!
When I played Hollow Knight I dropped down sort of a deep hole and going forward hit a dead end that needed an ability to progress and I was certain I was permanently stuck BUT turned out I could get back up it just required a really precise series of jumps past spikes and once I recognized the appropriate path/moves I was able to do it AND solving that problem really gave me confidence going forward. I love that game and I never finished it was still magical and fun and one of my favorite gaming experiences.
People saying Prince of Persia exceeds HK and Dread really makes me want to give it a try.
Aww Kit, Im sure your delegation plan was more than satisfactory. Sounds like your coworker threw you under the bus. Love these work stories at nintendo 😅😂 so relatable!
I want Street Pass back so bad...
If the rumors are true about the Switch 2 being as powerful as a PS4 (witch is wild for a handheld), I believe the menu will be snapy af. In Switch 1 the eshop and switch online app are lagging so bad! And my personal theory is that eshop music, themes and "Nintendo magic" are absent because of the lack of power.
No physical games would be a deal breaker for me. 2 reasons: 1) I own a lot of physical Switch 1 games. 2) Sharing digital games with other people in my house (different Switch) is annoying. It's so much easier for my son and I to share physical games. I buy much fewer physical games on PS5 and Xbox. But unless the make it easier for families with multiple switches to share digital games, I'll continue to buy mostly physical cartridges.
Wow! Kit is a StreetPass superfan!
Oh my gosh! The Switch 2 MUST be backwards compatible! I have (currently) 136 physical Switch games. It would be CRIMINAL if I can't carry them over to the new system!
I do think this switch 2 should have a camera though
When it comes to achievements, I don't miss them in any game. There's been titles in Nintendo consoles where they have their own achievement system in-game, so there's always that too
I just want a digital store that sells retro titles at a reasonable price. :)
Nintendo NEEDS to bring back streetpass and I’m glad youtubers are giving atention to it. If not on joycons internal memory, an smartphone app would do great (just like happn)
I never understood the “equal weight across all three modes of play” thing as a justification for removing some of the 3DS’ social features.
If you’re leaving the Switch at home in its dock, you’re not able to interact with it anyhow. The “weight” that docked play has over handheld is general comfort, but at the drawback of portability, which isn’t really a drawback since you can just take it out of the dock, whereas you CAN’T always just dock your Switch wherever you are.
In my opinion, they should be maximizing the incentive to have your Switch on hand as much as possible. You’re thinking about it more, you’ll likely spend more money on things like accessories and games, people in public might see it and be interested in buying one, etc. It becomes a statement in a weird way.
If anything, it should be a push to give docked mode another unique feature to make it even.
To solve the OS issues i got a wacky idea, Dock has a built-in OS with all the cool features we want and its own internal harddrive, features that Nintendo didn't want to implement because it could drain battery faster or takes more space on the internal drive.
Love your show and love your energy
If they include a Nintendo Labo 2 with the new console, I’m all in. I’m so addicted to cardboard cutouts, it’s ridiculous.
I hope HD rumble sticks around for switch 2.
Nintendo Switch Flip.
Dual screen clamshell console. Calling it here.
Also if the top screen can detach, you have a Wii U ^^
Oooohhh banana 🍌!!!! I also have had situations where I thought a project would be completed while I was on leave only to rock up 3 days before it was about to happen and realised nothing was done, then the person who was supposed to organise it went off sick the week I came back 😮
Kit getting annoyed at the end made me feel awkward but that’s just cause tension make me feel uncomfortable. Good for them not letting that sour the mood at the end.
Any chance the switch 2 allows backwards compatibility with original switch games?
Pretty sure its likely.
As for future-proofing consoles for third-party content, I don't think there's much a console manufacturer can do. They are already selling these things for $350-500, so the hardware is pretty minimalistic as it is. Even the Series X, despite being released only three years ago, is already six years behind in graphics technology, and they are forced to limit games to 30fps (Starfield or Redfall). Even the remastered version of The Last of Us 2 can't run the "fidelity mode" in 60 fps on PS5. Why do I have to choose at all when you designed the game for this hardware, and you're running on more powerful hardware compared to the PS4 it was originally released on? That is quite telling of how underpowered these next-gen consoles are, even if they are way more powerful than the current Switch. Ideally, you'd want everything running at 60 fps honestly, even turn-based games.
Truthfully, 30 fps is not even a standard anymore, and I realize console owners might have a hard time grasping this because it's what they've known since the 360/PS3 era. 30 fps is literally the bare minimum frame rate required for people to comfortably play a video game. Any lower than 30 fps is a technical malfunction or design flaw - it's too choppy and starts to really affect how you play the game. However, it's incredibly common for consoles these days to have games drop below 30 fps too, which in my opinion, is very telling that the console hardware isn't cutting it in most cases as this should be unacceptable. So if the PS5 and Series X can't even enforce 60 fps adoption with their hardware, I don't expect Nintendo's Switch 2 to be able to future-proof itself either, especially since it's at an even cheaper price point.
The reality is, console hardware is not that powerful - you get what you pay for. You need to spend $2000 if you expect to game on the same hardware for 7-9 years and still reach 60fps caps. For example, if you bought a GTX 1080 in 2016, you can still run pretty much everything at 1080p (or sometimes in 1440p) in 2024 fairly well. A GTX 1080 is only ~20 percent weaker than a PS5 or Series X is today, but you might get better performance due to more RAM anyway. So yes, you need to spend $2000 to "future-proof" your gaming experience. If you buy an RTX 4080 today, you probably won't feel the pinch to upgrade until the 7080 or 8080, which is 9-12 years away. Consoles are lucky to get 3 years of reasonable performance by comparison. You get what you pay for.
Both Sony and Xbox have had to refresh their consoles three to four years into the generation, and they still had games performing poorly in the last few years of the generation. For example, Assassin's Creed Origins and others ran poorly on PS4 Pro. So did Final Fantasy 15. While Cyberpunk was very unoptimized at launch, it still doesn't run well on the console it was apparently "designed for" after so many patches - you may as well play it on PS5, Xbox Series, or PC. I distinctly remember buying a PS4 Pro in 2016, and 3rd party games were already running like crap on it in 2017. There is no such thing as "console future-proofing." It was a waste of money, and I went to PC this generation to avoid repeating the same mistake.
I have no idea why console generations are around 7 years. Three to four years is much more reasonable. The tail end of console generations is probably the worst period for the console when it comes to third-party content. The most impressive time is the first two years of the generation when you can see how much better your cross-gen games run. That's the golden age for consoles. Everything is downhill after that.
I think consoles can get by longer than 3-4 years for 1st party content, mostly because the developers/publisher can live within their means and develop for the console specifically rather than chase the latest graphics technology. But there is no such restriction for 3rd party content - they will continue to push graphics and performance requirements every single year, which has universally left the consoles in the dust time and again.
I wish Nintendo could have the Switch 2 have the capability of downloading the patches/updates of games onto the physical cart itself
I've been saying for years that I want a Nin-to-do list to counter Trophies/Achievements. I sometimes find myself lacking motivation to continue playing a Nintendo game whereas with Playstation I keep going to get the Trophies.
1:46:48 streaming on switch works fine for me
I would really like a Scott the Woz collaboration. He sometimes shows brief Nintendo Minute footage in his historical essays so I would assume he’s familir with you too
I really want streetpass back
Bring these back too
PLEASE I WANT STREET PASS SO BAD
I would love a full online party system. Voice chat, easy to use etc. similar to how Xbox works. Probably never gonna happen, but I can dream. 😅
Themes.
The Super Nintendo Switch would look so nice on a console box but it would not scream new console so it will be interesting to see if we finally move to a number indicator for a console or not. This will be an iteration so switch most likely will be in the name as the form factor is not drastically changing.
I'm massively physical over digital but if the choice is pure digital or physical with a download, then I'd go all digital, there's no point going physical if you require a download anyway.
I guess it depends. It's on thing to say you need a 3 gb patch vs you need 60 gb to play the game.
Love the shout out to the amazing John Riggs. Switch 2: 4k in tv mode is nonnegotiable. I'm also completely over physical games. My switch might as well be glued to it's dock, so quite whatever on joycons as long as I get a great pro controller options
Oh, MAN, Custom Robo, what a good shout. Give us Custom Robo with functioning online, especially if we could matchmake with strangers, that would be great. I feel like a ton of GCN games could get whole new life from just being ported with online matchmaking.
I am happy not to have trophies on Switch. It’s a relief sometimes that I can get a game on Switch and just play it for fun without feeling like I have to aim for trophies, which I absolutely do when I play on my PS4.
Virtual console needs to come back. Nintendo needs to fully open their gaming catalogs and allow us to purchase games again.
Hey everybody remember stereoscopic 3D screen from 3DS?, it's back !! LOL!!
Considering that Nintendo has been sticking with their blue ocean strategy ever since the Wii, we might get something entirely different from a Switch. ESPECIALLY since there is now heavy competition moving in on the handheld console market with the Steam Deck, ROG Ally etc. I really can't see them targeting exactly the same market that the Switch did, it's not like them to do.
Krysta looks so good in light blue! Werk
I would love to hear your thoughts on Palworld
I could see a dockless SKU if it was compatible with the original Switch dock. Otherwise, that would be like selling a console without the controllers.
It'll be a new dock console that's compatible with the Switch. So there's still a market for both, they won't phase out the current Switch.
Okay. After watching the challenge, some of the game audio sounded off. Not de synced, but just wrong (particularly Megaman 2). Hearing it was a Retron 5, that sort of explains it. Still, it was a great video either way.
I love these videos❤
I want it to change to Virtual Console, and I'd like there to be tablet controllers that come with the Switch 2 and sold separately.
I play splatoon table top all the time
I hope they sell a hugely upgraded Switch without a dock. I am 100% handheld and I have 2 docks that are collecting dust.
Out of curiosity, why does everyone keep calling it the “Switch 2”. Is it confirmed to just be a continuation of the switch system? I don’t recall people ever calling the Nintendo Switch the “Wii U 2” leading up to its release.
The codename for the Switch was NX, so everyone called it the NX up until the official announcement of the Switch. There is currently no known codename for the Switch's successor, so no one knows what to call it and default to "Switch 2" as a shorthand name. Why Switch 2? Probably because the Switch has been incredibly successful, so sticking with the Switch name in some way makes sense.
I also do really miss streetpass and spotpass
yall putting streetpass in the thumbnails the funniest shit ive ever seen
Enjoying your podcasts!!! And, Yes, go Niners!!
UI customisation and organisation is far more in demand and "needed" than you both think.
In many ways it IS just about tickling an OCD... but why is that bad and why should you not satisfy it?
I guess my gripe is... why be apposed?