A Brief Conversation about Ephesians with Jasmine L. Holmes and Melissa Kruger

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  • čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
  • When it comes to women in ministry who know a thing or two about studying the Bible, Jackie and her two guests, Jasmine L. Holmes and Melissa Kruger, have a ton to offer. On this episode of With The Perrys, they sit down to discuss a new Bible study resource called "Ephesians: A Study of Faith and Practice." Jackie, Jasmine, and Melissa talk about the way they went about writing this Bible study together so that we can more clearly understand how we are oriented to God through Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit.
    "Ephesians: A Study of Faith and Practice" will be released in June 2024. Learn more about it here.
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Komentáře • 117

  • @marciemae1980
    @marciemae1980 Před 24 dny +208

    Jackie has the most interesting friends. I’m praying that God will allow me to find my “tribe “…a group of women that I can share with AND glean, and we all grow in the Lord TOGETHER. ❤

    • @user-zm9db9si5m
      @user-zm9db9si5m Před 24 dny +9

      This has been my prayer

    • @aliciawilson2459
      @aliciawilson2459 Před 24 dny +4

      Have you checked out their podcast "Let's Talk" before?

    • @jenniferoliver8663
      @jenniferoliver8663 Před 24 dny +5

      This is a heart desire of mine ❤😢

    • @dredayful
      @dredayful Před 24 dny +2

      That part ❤

    • @marciemae1980
      @marciemae1980 Před 24 dny +1

      @@aliciawilson2459 I have not, I hadn’t even heard of it until today! But I’m going to go back and listen to some of those episodes.

  • @Ellington3
    @Ellington3 Před 25 dny +179

    I think part of the problem is that we are not reading the Bible with an understanding of historical context with an eye how it relates to us today.

    • @elsbeth1
      @elsbeth1 Před 24 dny +6

      say it louder for the people in the back. I've been looking into this and it's eye opening for sure

    • @anonimome
      @anonimome Před 21 dnem +1

      This is called the difference between exegesis vs eisegesis. And it is shocking how many pastors don’t know what the words mean or how to do proper exegesis 🤦‍♀️

    • @Blovely007
      @Blovely007 Před 21 dnem

      @@anonimomewhere do we learn fire to do this?

    • @anonimome
      @anonimome Před 20 dny +3

      @@Blovely007 I learned this in seminary. Exegesis is basically doing a linguistic, cultural, political, geographical, and anthropological deep dive into the text. The text isn’t being written in a silo. It’s being written to a particular audience addressing specific things that are happening in that time and space. I 💯 percent believe God still speaks to us in modern times through the text, but if you don’t know how to do proper exegesis you will end up with bad theology every 👏🏽 single 👏🏽 time 👏🏽. That’s how slave owners justified slavery via bad exegesis. To see what stellar exegesis looks like, check out Philip Payne’s “Man and Woman: One in Christ.” Hands down the BEST exegetical study on women in the Bible.

  • @EverythingEbb
    @EverythingEbb Před 25 dny +78

    Indicative - facts, signs
    Imperative - actions; commands

  • @sleevedtwins
    @sleevedtwins Před 24 dny +55

    I just gotta say it… I miss this podcast 😔 hearing powerful, intelligent women speak on the Bible in such a clear point of view is amazing ❤

  • @christinajanner1500
    @christinajanner1500 Před 25 dny +60

    Ain’t even a full minute in & we’re already preaching, “to be absent from the body, is to be present with the Lord”. That’s a whole praise.

  • @AntoniaOkafor
    @AntoniaOkafor Před 25 dny +44

    We want more Bible studies from you Jackie! Video Bible studies, please 🙏🏾

  • @nursed.porchae990
    @nursed.porchae990 Před 24 dny +21

    I absolutely love this! We've started reading as a family and I am so blown away at how much I've learned from both my husband and children by way of holy spirit. Group bible study is so important and to pray before reading, Holy spirit will show up and show out! 🙏🏽

  • @janejanelady
    @janejanelady Před 24 dny +17

    It’s a “let’s talk “ reunion ! Woo hoo 👏

  • @charleslewisanthony6471
    @charleslewisanthony6471 Před 25 dny +21

    Yay! I went to Jackson State also!🤗
    Read Philemon. Oniscemus was a slave who escaped and got saved. Paul wrote Philemon, who was his master to let him know Oniscemus was coming back as his brother in Christ.

  • @singasong1530
    @singasong1530 Před 24 dny +8

    I'm from Jackson, MS and a graduate of Jackson State (currently living in NJ), and Jasmine's link to my hometown was the Godwink I didn't know I needed. ❤

  • @andresgutierrez2757
    @andresgutierrez2757 Před 10 dny +1

    Something that I was taught and I recognized that Jackie had done in her Jude study was this cascading set of questions.
    Provide about five observation questions. This helps my members focus on the concrete stuff of the verse.
    Then I provide about three contextual questions. Jackie did an awesome job of this by providing the context of common Hellenistic writing styles in the Pauline letters then asked about their significance.
    Finally providing two open-ended questions so that my members can really build on the stuff we discovered in the verse beforehand.
    I find this method really helps build on the context of the verse so people aren't just going under their feelings and prevents crickets from open-ended questions they felt were too difficult to answer.
    Thank you so much for all of your time and energy into these studies.

  • @GabrielleKynis
    @GabrielleKynis Před 21 dnem +3

    any submission to a difficult situation is God reminding us that the battle is His! God can bring us through anything and everything if we would ultimately submit to Him which in turn means to listen when he say submit to x,y,z.God is good!

  • @Amarisg93
    @Amarisg93 Před 25 dny +11

    Please bring them again❤

  • @abigailcrispin4957
    @abigailcrispin4957 Před 24 dny +4

    4:35 I just love how you all spoke to my soul about the confusion on when to place dashes and semi colons in text, I feel so seen right now

  • @felicierroco
    @felicierroco Před 24 dny +6

    I loved this style of Bible study and discussion. I hope you guys do more of this study.

  • @Kellys_Diary
    @Kellys_Diary Před 20 dny +3

    shame, not Jackie being shy receiving love and expressing love and Jasmine just pushin her buttons doing it hahahah! cute relationships in Christ!🙃

  • @princezsarfo1
    @princezsarfo1 Před 22 dny +3

    Not me finding out about Let's Talk on today! I am excited!

  • @okenyjordan1678
    @okenyjordan1678 Před 26 dny +9

    Add a few more cities ... We are out here in Toronto, Canada!

  • @QueenZsWorld
    @QueenZsWorld Před 22 dny +2

    when she was talking about knocking down the idols that are present in parenting... I have never heard a parent admit that or say it like that. I'm praising God for you, Melissa Kruger. that is deep. your book is going to set so many people free--both parents and children.
    (and that is how you use a dash mid-sentence lol I was also a grammar / English nerd)

  • @esmerayolivas3533
    @esmerayolivas3533 Před 25 dny +7

    I loved this, so refreshing and smart

  • @lauramczig
    @lauramczig Před 20 dny +1

    Our pastor has been preaching through Ephesians this year. Watching this has helped to cement that teaching in my mind and bind it to my heart. Thank you! 💕

  • @elliem1606
    @elliem1606 Před 10 dny

    Wonderful podcast. I could listen to the three of them talk all day. I am definitely interested in all of the books mentioned and for the record, my dear Mrs Perry, 35 is very very young! Blessings to you hubby and family❤

  • @rhondamckinley4373
    @rhondamckinley4373 Před 24 dny +2

    Thank you!

  • @Lohuma.Nd_
    @Lohuma.Nd_ Před 24 dny +3

    I just love it here!💕

  • @cassieshirah969
    @cassieshirah969 Před 24 dny +2

    I have been longing for a study on Ephesians, so thank you ladies so much. I can't wait to get it!

  • @temmietaft2552
    @temmietaft2552 Před 25 dny +3

    I loved this video ✝️

  • @sibongisenisakhele3114
    @sibongisenisakhele3114 Před 20 dny +1

    Appreciate the rich insights! Blessed

  • @DumebiOnoh-mz8oo
    @DumebiOnoh-mz8oo Před 17 dny +1

    My girlssss! I missed y’all on Let’s Talk. Such insightful conversations. So glad to see you 3 coming together like this again! 🫂❤

  • @mtaulton51
    @mtaulton51 Před 24 dny

    I love this reunion!

  • @gloriambulacharles8449

    I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE BOOK. I have been waiting to read something else from Jackie. She writes so well.

  • @HaleemaMcCree
    @HaleemaMcCree Před 23 dny

    I can’t wait to get this!

  • @templefuel5408
    @templefuel5408 Před 24 dny +2

    26:21 THAT PART! This is good🔥

  • @randomreality522
    @randomreality522 Před 25 dny +2

    Look at God ! Coming through with confirmation because I just started the plan on the Bible app

  • @moet131
    @moet131 Před 24 dny +15

    Jasmine's hair is beautiful

  • @vickihammond8403
    @vickihammond8403 Před 24 dny +6

    What a sweet group of friends! You all are blessed. I appreciate listening to what the Lord reveals to you. Also, Jackie, where did you get that couch? I adore the style and the color...and it would be perfect in my living room. Please, do more Let's Talk reunions. We Christian women need to be exposed to more thinking women friendships. I long for it. thanks and God bless.

  • @ashleerogers8664
    @ashleerogers8664 Před 26 dny +2

    Oh yes❤.

  • @chriswiththeassist2733

    Yay! This is taking me back to 2020-22 working at Amazon sneaking my headphones in a busting out shifts listening to y’all 🫶🏽🥹!
    Nostalgic 😭🙌🏽!
    And nowww I get to look at yall 🤣!

  • @journeywithjasmine_
    @journeywithjasmine_ Před 9 dny

    I love this

  • @tasha6734
    @tasha6734 Před 25 dny +2

    Hope Austin texas is on the list

  • @whitneyallen540
    @whitneyallen540 Před 25 dny +7

    I need yall to come to Northern Cali

    • @kaylachiles6586
      @kaylachiles6586 Před 25 dny +2

      Right! Nobody comes to NorCal. I would love them here.

  • @mckennasheetz2577
    @mckennasheetz2577 Před 22 dny +1

    Ayyy love y’all
    Come to worship night in San Luis Obispo Sunday night

  • @roseclermont3221
    @roseclermont3221 Před 25 dny +2

    Add more cities pls in FL!!

  • @Faithwalk212
    @Faithwalk212 Před 24 dny +3

    Yes, my late pastor would check you, or should I say, teach correctly by letting you know in a small group if you are incorrect about the Bible. She had the
    " Teaching Spirit " for that I am disciplined.

  • @beechannel27
    @beechannel27 Před 19 dny +1

    This was so good. 😊❤

  • @AnastasiaLane22
    @AnastasiaLane22 Před 22 dny +1

    Jackie is too funny 😂 . This was a fun and well needed episode.

  • @janiyah7366
    @janiyah7366 Před 25 dny +5

    i smiled so hard when i saw the thumbnail !!

  • @MotherMogashoa_Mmathapelo
    @MotherMogashoa_Mmathapelo Před 25 dny +13

    "you're the English person" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @bjoneswhite306
    @bjoneswhite306 Před 25 dny +2

    The Lord actually has me reading Ephesians. I have read it almost everyday except this past week. Still trying to figure out exactly why though.

  • @cameophillips
    @cameophillips Před 24 dny +1

    This is good!

  • @TheNyah333
    @TheNyah333 Před 24 dny +2

    Let's go JSU🎉🎉🎉

  • @Jirehs.society
    @Jirehs.society Před 26 dny +2

    🙏🏽

  • @miriamrabbani8840
    @miriamrabbani8840 Před 20 dny

    This was good! The favorite things part is hilarious.

  • @HeartCheckpod
    @HeartCheckpod Před 23 dny +1

    jasmineeeeeee teachhhhhh girl!

  • @ines-simpson
    @ines-simpson Před 25 dny +11

    What about when teaching adults the bible with learning disabilities? eg: autism, adhd etc..

    • @vee22354
      @vee22354 Před 23 dny +2

      Megan Ashley and Preston Perry touched on this with the InTotality Podcast

  • @Xoxoquan
    @Xoxoquan Před 25 dny +4

    39:27 as I have my neck fan sitting outside watching this podcast 😂😂

  • @SoFocusedonTheMark
    @SoFocusedonTheMark Před 24 dny +2

    Can we preorder? I would love this to be our next Bible study for my church. Super excited.

  • @Superiorman923
    @Superiorman923 Před 25 dny +2

    I wish AZ would get some love at some point lol

  • @lisathaleni1338
    @lisathaleni1338 Před 24 dny +7

    Melissa and Jackie forgetting Jasmine’s birthday is so real😭😭🤣🤣adulting

  • @alexn8767
    @alexn8767 Před 24 dny

    The tour is literally sold out!!!! Omg I’m so jealous! I would do Michigan but there are no VIP tickets left. Ima be better next year 😮😢😂

  • @comedianandreaj2917
    @comedianandreaj2917 Před 17 dny

    Not a JSU grad but born and raised in Jackson! S/O to our HBCU!

  • @BelovedofYahua
    @BelovedofYahua Před 21 dnem +1

    You are all "real"and love that

  • @leilaniwilliams1944
    @leilaniwilliams1944 Před 11 dny

    y’all are speaking a word and i’m truly grateful!! the world needs more of yall keep letting god lead you all🙌🏽🙌🏽 I was wondering if you had any recommendations for a good bible study book that includes more than one book of the bible?

  • @user-eg2sw6gn2g
    @user-eg2sw6gn2g Před 24 dny

    I think historical context is wonderful regarding slavery. I do believe the practical application of the workplace is a valid interpretation spiritually . With regards to applying it to our lives today. Just a little hit at Jackie😂

  • @jofullofbeauty_
    @jofullofbeauty_ Před 25 dny +3

    Please add more New York City dates. So sad it’s sold out!😢

  • @wayNAY87
    @wayNAY87 Před 23 dny

    Can you do another episode with Jasmine Holmes 😭

  • @ebonys3032
    @ebonys3032 Před 18 dny +1

  • @beholding3
    @beholding3 Před 25 dny +3

    Can DC get a second date? Because the first time I looked awhile ago, it was already sold out😭😭

  • @just.laur3n
    @just.laur3n Před 24 dny +1

    I always hear people say "slaves obey your masters", but the KJV says "servants obey your masters", which is largely what I think was being referred to.. if you are put in a position to serve, whether through leadership or subordination in any way at all, do so as unto God

  • @HisGraceAndMercy
    @HisGraceAndMercy Před 19 dny

    Where did Preston get his hoodie???

  • @tiffanyagyarko6295
    @tiffanyagyarko6295 Před 21 dnem

    Can y’all talk more about being a part of a house church (@Jackie and Preston)

  • @sassyasme1236
    @sassyasme1236 Před 25 dny +3

    Dallas was SOLD OUT 😢

  • @nythibodeaux6739
    @nythibodeaux6739 Před 20 dny

    Omg I went to the website and everything is sold out from the merch to the tickets on the tour🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @sdc6212
    @sdc6212 Před 11 dny

    She attended Jackson State university in Jackson, MS? ❤

  • @ae7091
    @ae7091 Před 25 dny +2

    Cleveland OH

    • @user-qs7wc8xp5s
      @user-qs7wc8xp5s Před 11 dny +1

      Ayeeeee 216!

    • @ae7091
      @ae7091 Před 10 dny

      @@user-qs7wc8xp5s hey there! Would love for them to come remotely near the Midwest!! I’m there! Been to 2 Glory conferences and man!

  • @nancybatal397
    @nancybatal397 Před 25 dny +9

    Ewww you love him🥰😂

  • @nathanbourjolly8328
    @nathanbourjolly8328 Před 25 dny +3

    With the Perry’s is missing a Perry 😬

  • @tayloranderson9972
    @tayloranderson9972 Před 6 dny

    Thank you for this bible study! God has been calling me to read Ephesians and I knew I lacked understanding, and this study has helped me understand the book soooo much better!

  • @myra9755
    @myra9755 Před 22 dny

    30:45 is me. Although I’m 22 now. I just don’t want the word watered down. I’m not a cute daily devotional/soap note person😭

  • @kenyettaaldridge3782
    @kenyettaaldridge3782 Před 25 dny +2

    Birmingham Al

  • @alicia_nicole444
    @alicia_nicole444 Před 18 dny +1

    I’m 36 going on 37 and I have a neck fan 😂😂😂. I don’t wear it in church tho

  • @latonyadover3588
    @latonyadover3588 Před 25 dny +3

    Jackie! Don’t talk about my fan😂😂

  • @mckennasheetz2577
    @mckennasheetz2577 Před 22 dny

    Canyon Hills SLO

  • @hb8413
    @hb8413 Před 17 dny +1

    "Ewww you love him" 😂😂😂

  • @jainicole
    @jainicole Před 23 dny

    Middle aged is 35 / 40 for our generation 😫🤣. I'll be turning 35 June 20th!!

  • @anonastjuste5888
    @anonastjuste5888 Před 17 dny

    19:38 hilarious

  • @nondyebodumeko9682
    @nondyebodumeko9682 Před 25 dny +2

    Preposition 😭what?????

  • @MamaShawnyD
    @MamaShawnyD Před 24 dny

    You have about 10 more years until neck fans unless the Lord bless you not to have hot flashes!

  • @savagebull9183
    @savagebull9183 Před 13 dny

    Jackie, are you pregnant?

  • @tatianaclare
    @tatianaclare Před 24 dny

    FIRST OF ALL WHYYYY do you have to be old to get a neck fan??!!

  • @yinksminks2346
    @yinksminks2346 Před 24 dny

    Please, Jackie I hope I am wrong but the lady called Jasmine on your seems jealous of you. Please, pray about her. Some women are always jealous even when they have their own blessings. I felt a discomfort in my spirit when looks at you when you are not looking at her. May God reveal her heart towards you. God bless you Jakie and your family.❤

    • @faithfiso7618
      @faithfiso7618 Před 24 dny +18

      Please don't do this...atleast pray about this privately if you feel the need to.Please......please.

    • @HernameisPurpose
      @HernameisPurpose Před 24 dny +11

      @@faithfiso7618 Exactly, this was not needed.

    • @DSN430
      @DSN430 Před 24 dny +6

      Don't. She was nothing but sweet, smiling and complimentary.

    • @wayNAY87
      @wayNAY87 Před 23 dny +6

      What a bizarre comment

    • @Velvetvoice06
      @Velvetvoice06 Před 22 dny +1

      Man. I’ll pray for you because the spirit of pessimism and divisiveness that must regularly oppress you to come to this conclusion and articulate this viewpoint must be heavy. I mean just demonic. God bless you.