Introducing... the Yostverse | Avengers: EMH, Spectacular Spider-Man, Wolverine and the X-Men
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- This video details the history and connections of the major shows in the 'Yostverse', Marvel's greatest animated universe. From Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Spectacular Spider-Man, Wolverine and the X-Men to Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes, join me in breaking down these links!
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:35 Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes
2:06 Wolverine and the X-Men
5:20 Connections and Creators
8:07 Spectacular Spider-Man
9:01 Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes
10:10 Evaluating the Shared Universe
11:17 Final Thoughts
An Interview With Joshua Fine
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It's curious how the shortest series are always the most beloved
Well, I mean, BTAS was 4 seasons if you count TNBA, which I do.
@@sebastienvondoom8615 well, I mean, yeah!
@@axolotlsworkbench6996 I don't think it's that short, is my meaning.
@@sebastienvondoom8615 that, 90s Spidey and X-Men, Justice League, pretty much most of the DCAU
@@axolotlsworkbench6996 you do have a point that some series that were good or a head of their time got canceled so fast.
I thing I will say is that at least the Yostverse tried to keep things connected and consistent despite the different animation styles, where as the Disney animated marvel universe would constantly change their characters and would often break continuity just so it can fit the the MCU.
yeah, I always hated that. if you want to change things to fit the movies, fine, but at least give a reason
like the Guardians of the Galaxy. in season 1 of Avengers Assemble, they mostly resembled how they were in EMH, but in season 2, they looked like their movies and there's never an explanation as to why
@@autobotproductions1244 yeah plus the Guardians of the Galaxy animated series created a huge broken retcon when they crossed over with Marvel’s Spider-Man 2017 series universe when it was supposed to be in the Ultimate Spider-Man universe
Si disney arruinó eso 7-7
Hawkeye changes to avengers assemble version in ultimate spiderman
@@bazookasniper5167 wait no I saw the episode with Hawkeye in ultimate spiderman and he didn't had that mask
Avengers Earth’s Mightiest Heroes was supreme and 100% deserves a continuation on Disney+
Hopefully the creators stay true to the comics. And don't end up making things too much MCUish similar to what Avengers Assemble did. In the name of brand synergy.
No hate towards MCU, but imo not everything related to Marvel necessarily needs to resemble it.
Obviamente Disney no lo va a hacer ya que ellos sólo se sentirán en programas para niños y no quienes planeado hacer programas serios o con calidad 7-7
@@chiranjeevsaikia560
One can hope. They need a break from the mcu
You can get the show on Blu-ray or DVD, so it's not like you can't watch it.
Be careful what you wish for.
The ‘way too short, why didn’t they make more episodes’ universe 😭
literally
Kids WB decided not to renew X-Men Evolution. Spectacular Spider-Man and Wolverine and the X-Men had legal and financing issues resulting from Disney's acquisition of Marvel. Spectacular Spider-Man was made under a deal between Sony and Marvel, and Wolverine and the X-Men was made under a deal between Fox and Marvel. With Disney purchasing Marvel, Sony and Fox had to negotiate new deals in order to continue those shows, and they chose not to. Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Hero was canceled by Jeph Loeb, who had been put in charge of Marvel Television. Loeb replaced it with Avengers Assemble to cash in on the success of the MCU.
To be honest it's the murdered MAU
@@PillarofGarbage Um, well in my Opinion, I think Wolverine and the X Men tales place after EMH. Looking at it chronically, Spectuler Spiderman was around the start of the Yostverse, while we never saw other Heores, their were plans for Ghost Rider to make an appearance in the series, than cutting too EMH, he is in his College Years clearly, but that doesn't make it the middle ground, but the concept art for S3 does, you can clearly see Cyclops and Marvel in there Silver Age Customes. Wolverine and the X Men obviously takes place after years of Experience that the team has. So I don't think the Avengers are ignoring it or unaware, it just hasn't happened yet. Plus the unmade plans for Wolverine and the X Men still had more to tell, but never did.
Well my opinion at least
That was just the time period. SO MANY cancellations in the golden era animated series (well maybe not THE golden era, but it was so good). Beware the Batman, Star Wars the Clone Wars, Young Justice, Green Lantern the animated series, Spectacular Spiderman, Avengers EMH, Wolverine and the Xmen, and probably more
The timing of Peter showing up in EMH also makes sense. He says that he's 17 years old, and with Spider-man being established as already being present for years, as well as the continuity progression within Spectacular Spider-man allowing the possibility of his appearance in EMH being a small time jump.
Although the one thing that kinda goes against this is that the EMH Peter is clearly inspired by the Ultimate Spider-man comics. Details like his hairstyle, as well as saying that he mainly works on the website (something that the Ultimate comics did to modernize the Spider-man story) end up clashing with the established design and dynamic of Spectacular Spider-man.
At the very least, it could be a variation of Spectacular Spider-man, or just a redesign while still being part of the same world.
It’s fine you wanna make it head canon but it’s not officially canon
It was supposed to be Josh Keaton voicing him like he did in Spectacular, and they did all of the voice recording too, but whoever was in charge of these decisions basically made the call to bring in Drake Bell to replace the audio because Ultimate Spider-Man was either starting soon or recently did. Really disappointing. Keaton was always the better Spider-Man VAs, easily top 3 for sure.
Spectacular Spider-Man Spidey is also based on his Ultimate Spider-Man in particular his relationship with Eddie being similar to the Ultimate comics.
In my head canon, by the time we see Peter in EMH he has already graduated high school. I believe that its taking place after the completion of all the originally intended 5 seasons of Spectacular. And he is probably in college, and while he claims to be 17, he is probably going on 18. Thus making him more involved with the bugle than he was before.
The different look was mainly to market Ultimate Spiderman via EMH, but in my opinion the different look showed that Peter had grown up since the events of Season 2 finale of Spectacular Spiderman.
Some common links that we have is the fact that Josh Keaton and all the actors had reprised their roles, before their audio was replaced. Spidey using the Spidey Signal like torch in his belt, that he would frequently use in Spectacular Spiderman. Apart from this we see Spidey and Cap form a bond in the episode 'Along came a Spider', and Spidey looking up to Cap as a mentor figure. This was something that Greg Weisman had originally intended to show in the original pitch for Spectacular Spiderman. But back then in 2008 he couldn't do that because of character rights issue.
P.S. :- apart from this we get to know in the Kang episode where Spidey leads the backup avengers team that by then he has Spider tracers. And sometime back it was claimed by Greg Weisman that Spiderman would've indeed gotten his Spider tracers by s3 or so of Spectacular Spiderman.
@@chiranjeevsaikia560 that would have been nice to see
Possible defense for the Avengers not helping mutants.
1. The division of government responsible for dealing with mutants is very secretive and the Avengers simply have no idea about them. (Most likely)
2. The anti mutant groups are radical and not officially endorsed by the majority of the government and the Avengers oppose them but its all offscreen. (Fairly likely)
3. The shows take place in the same universe at different points in time and EMH is either before or after all the mutant hate is at peak. (My opinion)
Please add more theories or debunk mine I would like some back and forth.
Personally it doesn't bother me if they are in the same universe because the main marvel universe has worked in the same way for a long time. I mean how often does the main line avengers bother with mutant affairs if they are directly effected by it. And the inclusion of wolverine in EMH is confirmation that mutants do exist and are probably being oppressed.
seeing how mutant hate might be a fairly accepted status quo the Avengers probably do not know how to react, they are sort of really public figures that also work with shield occasionally and try to have a good relationship with the police department and the general public, and it's not like mutants are harmless (some are literally walking bombs), it's a politically charged topic in their universe, so from a social standpoint probably they prefer not to address publicly the fact that they endorse mutants (they might even be neutral to the whole thing, after all, it is not their fight, they had no part on it on either front and at EMH they don't know that many mutants or their interactions with them are casual at best.)... plus, it's not like the avengers don't have constant problems of their own: when they could fight for civil rights, hold a conference or condemn billy, the random cashier worker who referred to kevin, his neighbor who was born with four arms, a "stinking, worthless mutie"... or stop a genocidal robot from ending all life on the planet, the choice is quite clear.
The big terrorist mutant fights probably are mostly handled with the X-men and the avengers don't even know they are happening (because the x-men stop them before becoming something serious), and like you said, the big anti-mutant policies by the government are probably secretive, the general public did not know they were building sentinels.
I believe is a mix between your three theories.
I believe the timeline is something like this:
-Earth mightiest heroes season 1 happens roughly around the same time as spectacular spider-man s1 and 2.
-then Earth eighties heroes season 2
-and finally Wolverine and the x-men.
4. It's basically how the originating comics handle Mutant oppression. Usually, Sentinels and mutant policing only happens in mutant focused series, so it's not actively a problem that affects or intrudes on Avengers stories that don't cross over with X-titles regularly. Which, admittedly is odd when the likes of Beast, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are a part of some of the more influential periods of Avengers comics.
When they do cross over though, it does come up, and Captain America(insert other hero here when Cap isn't on the team ) usually steps in and chastises the mutant policing force for their actions. But then, everybody goes back to their corners of the universe and back to ignoring mutants being oppressed
I do agree with 3 though, as Wolverine and the X-men does feel later in the timeline
My opinion has been for a while now that the shows take place at different times. Specifically, with WatX coming first, potentially including the second season if it had been developed. At this time mutant hate would be at its highest, the MRDs basically have free reign to do as they please, and only the X-Men would be around to do anything about it as people like Tony Stark and Hank Pym haven't developed the technology they need to be heroes yet. In that same vein of thought Thor wasn't yet banished to Earth. When EMH starts They have all been around individually for an unspecified amount of time, which could also explain where Spectacular Spider-Man fits into this, and it's possible that by this time the X-Men, or at least the event they take part in, have more or less fixed these issues.
The other X men appeared on Nick Fury's board of confirmed non skrulls. This probably suggests that we were going to see more of the X men in the future had the show not been axed
Also in regards to Josh Keaton, its important to note that Marvel vs Capcom 3 had all of the Wolverine and the X-Men and EMH voice cast playing the characters including Keaton as Spider-Man. So the dream isn’t totally lost when you take that into account
For a long time, Marvel had reused most of the same actors to voice the same characters in games & cartoons despite having zero continuity between each of the shows & games due to different writers, staff members, studios, and so on.
It’s not like the DCAU where the voice cast was brought on to voice the same characters while also having the same writers, producers, & artists to work on different shows.
It's really just spectacular how Spidey and the Avengers have been chillin' while The X-Men have been facing all the crap they had to go through simply because they're mutants 😂
"Should we help them.... nah 😪"
I think the fact that there is a light hearted "classic" vibe in Spectacular Spider man and Mightiest Heroes as compared to the X-Men series is actually pretty true to the comics. The Mutants in the comics have always had a bit of a harder time compared to the others, even when comics were more light hearted.
Eso es porque los mutantes representan la discriminación y el racismo
Always love seeing videos about these shows, they were easily the best. Would love some more Yostverse content!
Hiya! When’s the next vid
I'm so glad that EMH, Wolverine and The X-Men and Spectacular Spider-Man all exist in the same universe.
With the exception of Star Wars: The Clone Wars and The Legend of Korra, like all action-drama animated series of the late 00s, early 10s, all three Yostverse series were killed before their time, and it's truly sad. All three were phenomenal. I know people hold the 90s Marvel stuff with nostalgia (although more specifically X-Men and Spider-Man since I guarantee most of those people didn't see Incredible Hulk, Iron-Man/Force Works, that terrible Avengers series etc), but if each series of the Yostverse was really given a chance to span at least 3 seasons each, I think that without a doubt that most people would believe that the Marvel animation renaissance was really the greater golden age.
A bueno okey entonces tu si crees en esta teoría?
@Alexander Capanov si las series animadas de marvel sin mas fieles a los cómics que las películas
According to Greg Weisman, heroes like Iron Man have yet to become superheroes. My headcanon is that Spectacular takes place before Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, but that means we’d get an older Peter Parker by the time the shows came around.
My other head-canon is that it was the X Men that led to superheroes becoming more accepted by the public. Something like what happened in Days of Future Past movie, the X Men at some point saved the world and the public became aware of this. Maybe they managed to stop Apocalypse or someone like that, and the public began to trust superpowered beings.
Sounds good to me!
That makes sense. Peter in EMH says he’s 17 and Spectacular starts when he’s 16
Its sad Drake bell became the way he is because I got used to his voice.
Josh Keaton will always be my favorite Spidey.
Actually he recently got cleared of those charges. He's innocent.
@@maninthetrenchcoat5603 being cleared doesn't always mean you are innocent but that's interesting to know
@@mandalorianhunter1 Very true tho it could also mean you never did anything either. Don't know the facts like yourself but honestly not gonna have my personal view of him change entirely in a negative way due to a accusation which as far as we know at the moment didn't actually happen.
@@guess6635 I don't know what you mean.
I never said he was guilty either.
Their was a thing over a decade ago with Drake being involved with Vanessa Hudgens. However, I am going to leave it at this.
@@mandalorianhunter1 I was unaware of that information as well yet it's still a situation where if he got off there wasn't enough evidence to show that he did it so all we have to go with is the fact that he most likely didn't unless with the actual evidence. No "need to leave it at that" if we're simply having a conversation eh?
What's crazy is that Hulk vs. movies are also canon in this universe. They even referenced Hulk vs. Wolverine animated film in one of the episodes of Wolverine & The X-Men. Not to mention the reason why I believe Spectacular Spider-Man is canon in Avengers EMH's is because originally it was planned for Josh Keaton to reprise his role again as Spider-Man in that show. He even recorded all of Spider-Man's lines in the episode Along Came a Spider, but because of Disney execs stupid decisions, they had to cast Drake Bell instead, because Ultimate Spider-Man was airing on Disney XD. I don't hate Drake Bell as a voice actor. If he is given an actual good script, like in EMH's, he can actually make Spider-Man sound like the actual character, like he is potrayed as from the original comics. But because of Ultimate Spider-Man TV show, I for some reason feel kind of annoyed hearing Drake Bell voicing Spider-Man in general.
It's just a shame that all these great Marvel animated shows got cancelled. From 2009 to 2012 really seemed like Marvel actually wanted to create animated shows that are on the same type of quality as DCAU, but like I said, if it wasn't for Disney, their stupid decisions & greed, we could have had a full series of great animated Marvel shows that both new comers & old fans could really appreciate. MAU (Marvel Animated Universe) really felt like Marvel wanted to do something special with their animation.
Indeed man. It is indeed the rightful MAU. To sad that it got cancelled (especially EMH) for some very stupid reasons and yeah mainly for greed. These shows were definitely the best of Marvel, and showed what Marvel could be. Heck in some aspects shows like Spectacular and EMH even surpassed the MCU.
With all the stories that it had planned such as a possible X-Men crossover in season 3, a retelling of the Ragnarok storyline which would've probably been heavily inspired by the comics, a Civil War adaptation, Planet Hulk, World War Hulk and who knows possibly things even leading up to Hulk's son Skaar. Apart from this the introduction of the Shiaar empire, earlier mentioned by the kree supreme intelligence, characters like Hyperion, Sentry, Gladiator, Silver Surfer and some more cosmic characters, and some more involvement of the Guardians of The Galaxy. Maybe even see the mystical side of Marvel with characters like Dr Strange, Dormamu etc. Even the inclusion of the Inhumans. And the list just goes on. Then have some small hints which later lead to a grand battle in which all the heroes and all the teams Avengers, X-Men, F4 etc team up against Thanos. Man that would've just blown everything out of the park.
Sadly because of Disney's greed they made it the murdered MAU.
#RestoreTheYostverse
Ok but look at this from a realistic perspective. Disney saved marvel. They were about to go under and without them we wouldn’t have the mcu or even the comics anymore. It sucks that these great shows are canceled but it’s a worthy sacrifice imo.
@@godzillamaster34 And then after Stan Lee's death, Marvel dies again.
En mi opinión disney arruinó las series animadas de marvel 7-7
@@godzillamaster34 No, everything you said is wrong. Disney did not save Marvel, they bought them because they saw that Marvel was about to become a gold mine after Iron Man. Not only that, but the comics around 2005-2008 were selling very well, they certainly wouldn't have stopped publishing them and they didn't need to be "saved" by Disney. The MCU does not exist because of Disney, plans were already in motion to make it a thing from the moment they decided to make Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk (both of which came out before Disney bought Marvel).
Please stop with this Disney worship of "if it weren't for them, it would be the end" people always say that about Star Wars too, and it's just not true. About Star Wars or Marvel. Can't wait for people to start saying this about Fox properties.
I can’t thank you enough for all of these videos about the Yostverse, those shows mean the world to me, and I’m glad you’re getting folks to watch it, through some amazing videos.
Para mi las mejores series de este universo son espectacular Spider-Man, wolverine y los X-Men y avengers EMH y pero los cuatro fantásticos tienen lo suyo
The Spectacular Spider-Man is Earth-26496 according to the Marvel Universe A-Z Volume 4 Handbook, which also names Wolverine and The X-Men and Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Earth Heroes as Earth-8096.
Hulk Vs. Thor and Hulk Vs. Wolverine, Thor: Tales of Asgard are also Earth-8096.
Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes is Earth-135263
You’re right, but to some degree these universe numbers are an afterthought - check out the interview I’ve linked in the description; when these universes were actually being built, the divisions implied by the very different universe-numbers weren’t absolute.
@@PillarofGarbage are there any examples of universes that were initially given a number, but later changed?
@@PillarofGarbage I call bulls**t because Greg Weisman confirmed Spectacular Spiderman is not set in the same universe
@@jalontillmon2807 yeah, it's in the same universe as gargoyles :3
@@elementalheroshadowX Wait what?
I mean there’s really no evidence that some shows like Spectacular Spider-Man are connected to EMH, but the only connections between Wolverine and the X-Men and Avengers EMH in the Hulk and the MRD. Plus I recall there being a EMH comic (probably non-canon) where Magneto, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch attempt to “liberate” Wasp from the Avengers assuming she was a mutant.
No evidence for direct connection, but the interview with Joshua Fine I linked in the description tells us at least that there were tentative plans for such a connection (likely written around the same time as Along Came a Spider?)
I think the comics are canon, since they were written to wrap up some stuff. They kinda complete the fugitive villains stuff and also expand the Ravonna story, and also tell us what was happening with the rest of the team while Iron Man was dealing with Technovore and AIM. But yes, I see your point. Everything is just a mess. Good thing there are fans trying to give some sense
The funny thing is, in the The Ultimate Universe, Wasp is a mutant canotically
Super Swim Team 7 asked Yost if Spectacular is connected to EMH and he said it is.
Greg Weisman and Victor Cook, the showrunners for Spectacular Spider-Man, have never confirmed this. Though they weren't allowed to use the characters anyway, they did have specific plans for the other heroes that heavily contradicted WatXM and Avengers. Also, shoving Spectacular with the Yostverse feels disrespectful to Weisman and Cook, especially since Yost didn't work on that show.
The last part about the Avengers being privileged and out of touch when it comes to the world of X-Men I personally think would have been a good driving internal conflict for a 2 or 3 parter teamup between the two teams.
Would it contrast against EMH's tone? Yeah, but I think that would have made it more powerful and made the audience connect better with the Avengers.
To me that happens in the comics when it comes to the Sentinels.
Cap was just revived so he doesn't know what's going on, Hulk himself is always on the run so he knows how they feel but can't help, Wasp and Hank can't over step their boundaries, Tony doesn't want to be under a micro scope due to him being a businessman and him already being a one man army.
The only thing I can think of is that this happens after W&X-Men's 1st season or towards the end of it. I think Kelly got the Mutant force to back down a little bit but couldn't do it all the way.
@Siboniso Buthelezi I knew that they wanted to do involve the X-Men, but I didn't know about the pseudo Dark Phoenix/A vs X plot line - that sounds like it would have been awesome!
Hablas de civil war?
I love wolverine and the x-men. It makes me sad that it only had one season ive probably watched it half a dozen times
Same I really wanted to see what they did with Apocalypse.
@@mandalorianhunter1 ya all tripin x men evolution was waaayyy better
@@animationtvthrowback6152 wtf are you talking about?
This has nothing to do with what X-Men show is better.
@@mandalorianhunter1 this is...
@@animationtvthrowback6152 Are you blind or dense?
The video we are commenting to is about a shared universe.
The comment we are replying to is that they loved Wolverine and the X-Men, which they wanted more of.
So explain to me your logic about why you thought this was about which X-Men show was better?
I am waiting.....
Thank you so much for making a video talking about the connected Yostverse! I'm glad that there's a channel that talks about it. When I look through CZcams other videos are usually like 10 years old. I learned a lot watching this; I didn't realize World's Greatest Heroes was including here. Also, thanks for mentioning Thor: Tales of Asgard.
FF: WGH doesn't get enough recognition or love, it's arguably the single best interpretation of the characters and their world outside the comics, not counting their few appearances in EMH. I'll gladly slot them into this shared Marvel Animated Universe.
Dude you are the only other person that calls this the yostverse, i’ve been waiting for a channel like yours, I love your videos and I love these shows.
I liked EMH incorporating Spectacular Spider-Man elements (at least until the new show made them re-record Peter and JJJ) but I also would have loved to see Greg Weisman, Spec Spidey's creator's Marvel Universe.
Weisman has talked about it on his website but although he was not allowed to use Marvel characters, he had his own version of the early 60s Marvel Universe in the modern day in his head where the Fantastic Four exist but are off fighting cosmic level threats, Hulk exists only as an urban legend in the New Mexico desert, Xavier's only students are Scott and Hank, Tony has not yet gone to Afghanistan, Cap is still in the ice, etc. Legally, he just couldn't use those characters but he invented justifications for why they don't come help Spidey every time GG or Ock attacks.
He said if he was given the rights to the larger Marvel universe, he would first do a Spidey meets Human Torch episode and then later Spidey meets Hulk, being cautious and sparing about how many crossovers they do so it doesn't become Spider-Man and His Spectacular Friends.
But since none of that happened, EMH low key shepherding it into their universe was a cool touch. I wish we could hear that Josh Keaton audio!
I remember when Spider-Man was confirmed to appear in EMH I was so excited at the time. I thought maybe they could get Josh Keaton to reprise his role, I was apart of the bring back Spectacular Spider-Man movement at the time, still am but I thought it would be a nice nod to the fans. The last time you get see that version of Spidey and he met up with the Avengers. Unfortunately they got the other guy which sucked because he was getting his own new series but Disney wanted brand unification, which eventually led to the cancellation of EMH but I'm not getting into that right now. Then I found out within the month of the episode airing confirmed via blog post that Josh Keaton did initially get the role and recorded for it but it was later given to the other guy. As a fan I was disappointed to say the least, I thought ''Really Disney you couldn't have at least given us that?'' I remember watching it thinking how these lines were consistent with Spectacular Spider-Man not Ultimate Spider-Man, and Josh Keaton would have delivered the lines better. I've honestly thought about getting Josh Keaton via cameo to redub those episodes some day. In my head cannon at the time I did think the shows and two movies were connected with the exception of Fantastic Four series but this confirms it. Great video by the way.
I remember growing up on these shows looking back they definitely still hold up to when I was a kid
Talk about all of them, please I just want to see more of your content
Your videos are great and I always get really excited when I see that you've posted something new
When I watched these shows with my parents I tried to convince them that they were in the same universe
Also is it weird that I prefer this connected animated universe over the 90s one
Avengers EMH Spider-Man was actually supposed to be voice by Josh Keaton (same voice actor in Spectacular) but then last minute dubbed with Drake Bell.
yeah they were already planning on canceling spectacular spider-man or i think they already did i’m not sure
I am glad someone talked about how they are connected. First of all I never heard anyone talk about the fantastic four show being connected after looking at it seems to be its own project, second of all after doing some research apparently it was WATX was originally going to be a wolverine show that later became an x men show and apparently the studio mandated Logan become the leader of the X-Men, therefore, they had to come up with a reason why Charles fell in coma and Scott was in the situation he was.
Planet Hulk is also supposed to be in the same universe. When Beta Ray Bill says that tales of Hulk's rage still ring through Asgard today (or whatever exactly he says), it's supposed to be a reference to Hulk vs. Thor.
So you basically just told me all my favorite shows as a kid are in the same world thank you man you just brought me back to my childhood for 12 minutes
Well the Fantastic Four is actually pretty good, the story isn't as complex as the other shows but it's light-hearted fun and the cameo apperances are pretty good, you should give it a chance.
Recuerdo ver esta serie unas cuantas veces cuando era niño
If it weren't for Disney, these amazing shows would never hv been cancelled.
@Alexander Capanov Me too
Keep posting these videos I really want to see more of everyone of theses shows
Wolverine and the X-men, EMH as they are both apart of Earth 8096, while Spectacular Spider-Man is apart of Earth 26496, Fantastic Four WGH exists in Earth 135263. Let's not forget there always has been a truly connected Marvel universe Earth 616 the comics. Nice vid though. Also X-Men takes place quite a few years ahead of time before the Avengers were united, which is why they didn't help.
Por que nos rompes las esperanzas? :,v
All I Can say is you chose the greatest Marvel shows I have ever Watched Thabk you for choosing these shows
I'd like if you did a video on how much the MCU adapted from EMH.
After watching the show again it seems look there's a lot of correlations and adaptations.
Keep up the good work. It is very appreciated.
I love to see a lot of comments discussing this stuff. Gives me hope to see a more organized fandom in the future
Funny you mention the difficult questions that are raised when you connect WAXM and EMH. I love that conflict in the comics and how it provokes both examination of the fictions and realities we exist in.
It's possible that Wolverine and the X-Men sets place before EMH. And Spectacular Spider-man sets place during the Wolverine show. The MRD must've eased up on their control on mutants after the show ended.
That was always my head Canon. In that way the world starts off fairly dark but becomes brighter and more hopeful that way the Avengers don't look so bad when it comes to the mutant crisis.
That doesn’t make any sense
@@jalontillmon2807 You have a better explanation? 😐
@@UnrealNeoBat Actually yes to X-men and avengers EMH. But No to Spectacular Spiderman because Greg Weisman, the developer of the Spectacular Spiderman, further confirms that both shows of spectacular Spiderman and avengers EMH are not set in the same universe. (and I believe him )
@@jalontillmon2807 So? For all due respect for Mr. Wiseman that won't stop folks like myself for wanting it to be cannon. It's called head-cannon.
I'd love to visit a or multiple parallel world(s) where these three shows concluded on the creators' terms. Not cut short by the network nor renewed indefinitely for the money.
Wow this is amazing to hear never thought they would be connected
I’ve been waiting for someone to make a video on this. Anytime I see yost name in the credits I know I’m gonna enjoy it. To me He’s like Bruce Tim of marvel, his stories are so good and most new marvel animated shows can’t compete with them in the enjoy ability factor.
I really want to hear your take on the DCAU as soon you’re done talking about Avengers: EMH for the billionth time lol.
To me the DCAU is the best example of how to do a interconnected shared universe something I wish the DCEU could’ve been and still hope it can be.
I love Spectacular Spider-Man that show along with other shows I grew up watching that got me into the character and how perfect it adapted the early Stan Lee & Steve Ditko era of the character and brought it to life. While some people have problems with Wolverine & the X-men I personally love it, the characters were amazing for the most part and the plot, story and social commentary were also told really well and plus who can’t get enough of Wolverine let’s be honest 😂 the guy brings money and interest wherever he’s at.
I've wanted a video like this so much
so sorry for being so late. was busy so did not open youtube to even see this! GREAT VID BTW
all these shows do share a connection. THEY WERE GREAT BUT GOT CANCELLED BECAUSE OF LEGAL STUFF
It’s crazy because all 3 of these shows are my favorites ones to watch
Oh. To think about what could’ve been
Respectfully, I’m mad that this didn’t continue, but grateful this universe existed the way it does.
I always thought of them all together expert for Fantastic Four though I do like that show but I'd have no issue if it is connected. I love seeing Yostverse being discussed and will continue to watch more of this though I hope the Yostverse and or a new animated Universe of good quality can have its day.
The reason why these shows were canceled was actually a very interesting The avengers because of Disney wanted to go something more closer to the movies while with Spider-Man and the X-Men was due to copyright issues, with both Fox and Sony refusing to play ball with Disney.
If you haven't already you should check out Spiderman the animnated series from the 90s. It was the Spiderman show I grew up with and I've just finished rewatching the first season. The story telling isn't has intricate as EMH with multiple plot threads being slowly added and teased, but it does introduce you to characters that will become more important later on. In season 1 each episode is a monster of the week but characters like Eddie Brock, Felicia Hardy and Norman Osborne are introduced as recurring characters to set up future storylines. The other seasons appear to tell one overarching story per season. They also adapt classic comic arcs like EMH too.
Good job acknowledging the messy nature of continuity surrounding the Marvel animated shows. Most videos are too quick to jump to the conclusion that two shows share a universe because of one crossover without taking the rest of their episodes into account
Ósea que tu si crees en la teoría?
I love to hear More about Earth's mightiest Heroes and Wolverine and the X-Men I like the connection and spectacular Spider Man yes definitely love more
Release the Keaton cut
I wish Disney give us better animation shows than what we have with Avanger assemble and Hulk and the agent of Smash
Agreed I see what they are trying to do with trying to make it more movie like.
However, it does come off as stiff when doing face zooms or face shots.
I higly doubt that's going to happen any time soon, seeing how Disney & many other western companies have fallen down into the woke crowd & just make movies & shows that appeal more towards Twitter, then they are meant for kids.
Avengers Assemble wasn't that bad in the first season. Then it started wanting to match up with the MCU and ruined everything
@@ccelite3782 Funny they did and mismatched up with some things.
Ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers Assembled did do some things first before the MCU. Spidey and having him have a close relationship with Tony. It was interesting
If young Justice could get a 3rd season, and apparently more to come, I really hope they bring back WATX or honestly all of these shows
The only problem to the Yostverse is Nick Fury’s eye patch. It’s on the right eye in Wolverine and the X-Men!
err... flawed LMD?
@@PillarofGarbage or the Chameleon who scanned a flipped photo of Nick Fury.;)
I actually like to think That Nick did not lost his eye in the Yostverse,He is using the practice Eyepatching Pirates that didnt lose their eyes,Being to adapt the eye
En serio te fijaste en eso? XD
Uh ... a sorcerer did it...
Something I would like to add it that I saw Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes. Both Tony Stark and the Hulk cameo in the that show as well as She-Hulk. Reed Richard's doesn't know that Tony Stark is Iron Man, whereas EMH follows the MCU's format in which Tony Stark doesn't have a secret identity. Also, it was somewhat a secret in fantastic four that Bruce Banner was the Hulk and he wasn't as intelligent as EMH Hulk.
There's no such thing as too much Spectacular Spider-Man. So more Spider-Man vids would be much appreciated.
Nice video
EMH, Wolverine and the X-Men along with the Hulk verses movies are confirmed to exist in the same universe due to episodes and interactions pointing this out.
Fun fact the Spider-Man who appears in EMH was supposed to be voiced by Josh Keaton who voiced him in Spectacular which would have made the connection better but atlas they went with Drake Bell who would go on to voice him in Ultimate Spider-Man which would start the next shared universe, the MCUAU.
Fantastic Four has its own Spider-Man that only appears as Peter Parker lol.
Que alegría si hiciste mi sugerencia :D
This is great!!!!!
Drake Bell turns out to have been innocent. Most people just ate it up right away because of how common it is.
Would Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow count? Also I sort of like the angle of the X-Men facing trials of an anti mutant government being concurrent with avengers Earth's mightiest heroes and spectacular Spider-Man. It could take place slightly afterwards but the X-Men are meant to represent the experience of minorities in the US. Our experiences are usually set to the background until huge events happen. I'd love to see a crossover with real consequences, sort of simulating an avengers vs X-Men story line and eventually leading to Krakoa, with a well done Cyclops as leader, utilizing the teachings of both Xavier and Magneto. Idk seems like an awesome movie to stream on Disney plus or something
Heroes Of Tomorrow was a continuation of Ultimate Avengers, I believe
@@certifiednobody It 90% is, especially with the relationship of Captain America and Black Widow.
These shows were after my time, I'm actually pretty sure that the last superheroes show I've watched as it aired was the Fantastic Four show you mentioned here, so it makes sense that the connection it has to this Marvel universe is flimsy and that it's the first show, I do remember Wolverine and the X-Men briefly, but by the time a couple of episodes aired I already moved on from watching television and from the Marvel craze I had in the very late 90s until the mid 2000s.
wolverine and the x men was sooo good i never realized they were in same universe as EMH but makes sense and spectacular spiderman was always my fav spidey show
Great 👍 video man. I love all four shows equally.
Well, I’ve seen two of them. Time to go watch Spectacular Spider-Man.
Another great video! Keep it up
I really miss these three shows I actually grew up with them I grew up with spectacular Spider-Man first though I remember just watching spectacular Spider-Man feeling this confident vibe and I would pretend I was Spider-Man this was around 2013 or 2012 I think I was basically born on the same year as spectacular Spider-Man I would also sing earth mightest heroes theme song I didn’t really like Xmen but I still watched it these 3 shows will be remembered
I get the aversion to Wolverine and the X-Men's distopian mutant oppression being in the same world as EMH, but to be fair that is basically how it is the comics
I know :(
I always use to scratch my head about the description for the episode of spectacular spiderman where sandman fights spidey for the time. It says that spiderman teams up with the human torch to beat sandman which for a long time made no sense to me but whether it's a writing mishap or an indication of the extent to which these crossovers would show, it's pretty cool to think at some point this shared universe was in development
Yostverse had all the strengths of the fox shows and none of the drawbacks. I have an 8 year old son and nephew. They're at the perfect ages to start these shows.
I highly recommend you check out the F4 series! It's such a great interpretation of the core comics and concepts.
I love Marvel’s Yostverse so much. It’s probably my favorite adaptation of the Marvel Comics in general. I personally like it more than the MCU. I wish these amazing animated shows would comeback someday.
I wish we could get Josh Keaton redubbed into the EMH episode
I love Spectacular Spiderman... Top 5 marvel cartoon but I love Spiderman TAS even more... I love the character designs from TAS...
The fact that What IF? is the best marvel cartoon since Earth's mightiest heroes is a travesty
I remember learning about this while browsing the marvel database wiki and having my mind blown.
I'd love to see a theory video on if EMH wasp is a mutant! There was some web content that mentioned her keeping a lid on where her powers came from that I found interesting
These shows were the best.
I love them so much
These shows, Ben 10 and the DCAU
TOP TEIR STUFFS
All of these shows are goated
EMH is underrated & should have more than 2 seasons
Christopher Yost was on FIRE in the 2000s. He still is, as evidenced by Thor: Ragnarok.
I don’t remember when but I remember a post by Christopher Yost saying Spectacular Spider-Man is in the same world as Earths mightiest heroes
Indeed there was such a post. He even commented that the episode Along came a Spider is in essence a Spectacular Spiderman episode.
I think that the Avengers ignoring all of the bad stuff that happens to the X-Men, and only calling them why they need their help, was mentioned when Captain America asked Cyclops why the X-Men hadn’t told the Avengers about their resurrection capabilities in AXE: Judgement Day
Growing up I always imagined this universe being Wolverine and the X-Men, Spectacular, and EMH with Planet Hulk, Hulk Vs., and Next Avengers being canon on the movie side.
Never saw enough Fantastic Four until recently, don’t know how I feel about it being in this universe lol, but great video nonetheless!
I don’t think most fans would consider the FF show to be a true part of this universe, but it has a few similarities with the others so I thought it deserved a mention :)
9:51Actually, while FF world's greatest heroes have some new stories, they also adapt some from the Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, including "The return of Doctor Doom" (in which Reed and Doctor Doom switch bodies) and ""Captives of the Deadly Duo" (in which Doom sends the Baxter building to space).
I like to think that Fantastic 4 show was part of the same universe as X-men Evolution. Their writing styles match up better there.
Truly the golden age of marvel animation
You should do a history of Marvel Animation: All the shows from the 90s to the Disney plus shows
I mean people are talking about spectacular not being canon to emh, but number 1
Josh Keaton recorded his lines for Spider-man in EMH but due to disney stupidly they let drake bell do spider-man.
the stuff about his design being different cant just be chalked down to different animation style, I mean Logan in EMH and Wolverine and The X-Men have different suits, but people still don’t seem to mind. also peter still has the same dimple and hair so… yeah
In my opinion the best X-Men show is X-Men evolution
Actually Greg Weisman confirmed that Spectacular Spiderman and avengers EMH are not set in the same universe. (And I believe him) he said “ We weren’t in the continuity with any other series, PERIOD. We have our own plans for how rest of the marvel universe fit into our spectacular corner, but since weren’t allowed to use any Spidey related characters, those ideas were largely moot. But if you check the archives you can get a taste of them.” And that what he said. I rest my Case
Weisman and Fine clearly disagreed about it, then - check out the interview I linked in the description!
@@PillarofGarbage No disrespect man but Interviews don’t help In my case it’s fine you wanna make it spectacular Spider-Man head-canon same with the fantastic four show (and believe me I love those shows to) but Like Jonah said “Prove it” I got my evidence, Wiseman and Victor Cook has their own plans for the other Marvel heroes in Spectacular. (And plus Yost wanted to use Josh Keaton as a nod to Spectacular )
Damn, I started reading comics with Yosts X23 comics series. Then learnt he had a hand in WatXM, but now watching this video I didn’t realise how much creative stuff his done in this universe. Also I’m years too late to this video
Christopher Yost also has a really good comic run on scarlet spider (Kaine)
All 3 of those shows were very promising especially spectacular Spider-Man and Avengers Earths mightiest heroes
My favorite
I remember Fantastic Four: WGH, It gave me heavy Megas XLR vibes. I miss that show