@@kalikaiz Its crazy how the format have developed since the beginning of this combo. I remember trying to break the golem foundry years before it became such an insane deck! This is how i would dream it would operate kinda haha! Allways neat to see, im brewing with instants and MysT still kinda found its home as snow skred deck. The combo to go infinet with sprout swarm and MurmurM feels kinda broken, not sure if its breakable. Very fun and interactive deck tho, refills very good at endstep. If you youst wanna check it search for me on Mtggoldfish ¨watz¨ i wanna break this win con so bad xD
Have you considered the new pylons from OTJ for use over the grottos? Seems like they would be better in 90% of scenarios considering they can set up your retrievers while still performing the same role (only time I can see a problem is if you reveal munitions, but this deck can still win regardless)
Do u think its worth playing the new card molten gatekeeper in replace for anything like makeshift munitions or would it be good along side it. Being able to work in the graveyard is a bonus but is also more prone to graveyard hate. U also still need the combo to make infinite golems to ping the opponent. I know the video is a little old and wanted to know your thoughts on if gatekeeper makes the decklist or any other new MH3 card I missed.
@@kalikaiz I've been testing them and they've felt amazing! Being able to scry off candy trail then surveil the artifact you left on top into the graveyard for value is very powerful. I've won games from putting my 2nd myr right into the graveyard to set up my combo turn faster.
Hi @kalikaiz, just want to get your input, if your meta is 90% burn no other deck and single BG Gardens, UR Faeries. Would it be good to do the below based on your lists? I really want to Crash or dominate RED decks, I want to come in pre-board with fangren and Krark as everyone in our area only plays mono red. Out 1x Conjurer's 1x Makeshift 1x Golem Foundry 1x Ichor 1x Rowman 1x Myr retriever In 3x Fangren Marauder 3x Krark Clan or 2x Fangren 3x Krark 1x Weather
If you want to fully pre board vs red you can grab that sideboard from the video and just keep it that way pre board haha. I would just go up on weather. Or 2 weather 2 fangren main
Prerequisite: infinite Mana and a refractor 1 myr in yard, 1 on field Begin Sac myr for any cantrip artifact Sac fountain for 2 myr Play 2 myr Play and sac other artifact Play fountain Repeat That's about it I think
I've noticed the foundry inspector only shows up in one of these builds? Did you decide against him? I have it and I'm on the fence with how relevant he really is.
At that point in the game altar isn't really doing anything for us. I was just looking for Mana and stuff to draw more stuff basically. I felt that tower was better at helping us move forward
I have an old video on monster Tron. I don't think anyone has done well with it lately. I'm always up for a line jump if you want to do a deck donation on Patreon or by contacting me directly :)
BG Gardens Is basically a bye for you. Their deck Is full of useless removal, they didn't have counters and they don't pressure you in anyway until turn 4-5 at their best... and even post SB they have only some artifact hate (ouphe/deglamer) and some graveyard hate (usually not relic of progenitus since they care about their graveyard too). It's seriously like a 90-10 matchup for you.
@@alessandromalvasi7768 yes but on mtgo it's like a 0% matchup post board because they bring in fangren and weather to go for timeout. That's specifically why I have stream there 🤣🤣
@@robertjameson1959 yep Patreon or we can do PayPal direct. Feel free to PM me on discord or Twitter, tag me if you pm me on Twitter so I know to check (they get hidden)
Round 1 Game 1 natural tron in the opener, your deck was telling you how today was gonna go
feels good
So many Glitter match ups! Good games. Cool deck. Well played.
Thank you!
I loved the list, I never thought it would be possible without the map, I'm going to test but exchange the grotto for the new surveil
Sounds good!
first poison storm now altar tron. Rounded out some SWEET combo decks to play with!!!
Awesome!!
Wow good job there, insane deck!
Thanks!
@@kalikaiz Its crazy how the format have developed since the beginning of this combo. I remember trying to break the golem foundry years before it became such an insane deck!
This is how i would dream it would operate kinda haha! Allways neat to see, im brewing with instants and MysT still kinda found its home as snow skred deck.
The combo to go infinet with sprout swarm and MurmurM feels kinda broken, not sure if its breakable.
Very fun and interactive deck tho, refills very good at endstep.
If you youst wanna check it search for me on Mtggoldfish ¨watz¨ i wanna break this win con so bad xD
Nice update. Just when i was able to get a play set of expedition map to complete the deck.😅
Good thing I didn't get the secret lair maps. Now there is secret lair stirrings instead haha
Have you considered the new pylons from OTJ for use over the grottos? Seems like they would be better in 90% of scenarios considering they can set up your retrievers while still performing the same role (only time I can see a problem is if you reveal munitions, but this deck can still win regardless)
I have considered it but forgot to use it in this league :)
Conduit Pylons might be better than Crystal grotto in this deck
I'll test it in my next league with altar
great content!! i'm looking for the cards to play this in my LGS
Thanks a lot!
Dang, another dope list I have to add to my roster. Great work, my friend :)😊
Thank you!
@@kalikaiz thank you :)
Yeah tron is actually surprisingly stronh in pauper. I was surprised to see that its metashare is that low. Is there any specific bad matchup ?
You're disadvantaged vs red and UW glitter I think. Basically anything hyper fast
Do u think its worth playing the new card molten gatekeeper in replace for anything like makeshift munitions or would it be good along side it. Being able to work in the graveyard is a bonus but is also more prone to graveyard hate. U also still need the combo to make infinite golems to ping the opponent. I know the video is a little old and wanted to know your thoughts on if gatekeeper makes the decklist or any other new MH3 card I missed.
It seems ok. If you're already cutting munitions it's decent. But I do prefer munitions
Hi, love the deck and the content! I'm going to build this in paper for sure!
Do you suggest any variation for the paper version?
Mostly just that you should pick something over stream to tech vs what you want to beat
Ok time to buy this deck in paper!
Let's go!
Any thoughts on Conduit Pylons over Crystal Grotto, to surveil instead of scry?
I honestly meant to try it and forgot again lol
@@kalikaiz I've been testing them and they've felt amazing! Being able to scry off candy trail then surveil the artifact you left on top into the graveyard for value is very powerful. I've won games from putting my 2nd myr right into the graveyard to set up my combo turn faster.
Hi @kalikaiz, just want to get your input, if your meta is 90% burn no other deck and single BG Gardens, UR Faeries. Would it be good to do the below based on your lists? I really want to Crash or dominate RED decks, I want to come in pre-board with fangren and Krark as everyone in our area only plays mono red.
Out
1x Conjurer's
1x Makeshift
1x Golem Foundry
1x Ichor
1x Rowman
1x Myr retriever
In
3x Fangren Marauder
3x Krark Clan
or
2x Fangren
3x Krark
1x Weather
If you want to fully pre board vs red you can grab that sideboard from the video and just keep it that way pre board haha. I would just go up on weather. Or 2 weather 2 fangren main
@@kalikaiz thank you very muchhhh sir. Appreciate the help
How does the draw your deck combo with Blood Fountain work?
Prerequisite: infinite Mana and a refractor
1 myr in yard, 1 on field
Begin
Sac myr for any cantrip artifact
Sac fountain for 2 myr
Play 2 myr
Play and sac other artifact
Play fountain
Repeat
That's about it I think
What do u think about playing green artifact lands instead of forests? could be good with disputes, KKs munitions eventually
I'm too scarred from facing wildfire to do that sort of thing
Im having a hard time seeing the full decklist, do you think you could post it in the comments??
Can you use the link to mtggoldfish or does it fail?
I've noticed the foundry inspector only shows up in one of these builds? Did you decide against him? I have it and I'm on the fence with how relevant he really is.
@@jamesbaughman2648 it's not that necessary. I think it can provide some speed but not required at all
@@kalikaiz I do t run ancient stirrings yet and I've been underwhelmed by wizards rockets. Thoughts on swapping 4 for 4?
@@jamesbaughman2648 can you be a little clearer? I'm not following sorry
@@kalikaiz sorry. Right now I run wizard rockets x4 and I've been underwhelmed by the card. I'm considering a x4 of ancient stirrings instead to dig.
Thia weekend i play This with 4 chromatic sphere and 4 maps/stirrimgs. Omg How i flood. THX for the vídeo.
Good luck in the next one!
Would you update the sideboard guide for this deck on the patreon?
Yes I will plan on updating for this list
Congrats on the perfect 5-0!!!
Thanks!
Well played! May I ask you, what would you change to prepare for a known burn-heavy local meta?
I would probably play 3 weather in the main and maybe cut a wellspring or a lembas
Hey just curious why the stream of thought was in the sideboard what matchup is that for
It is because on mtgo you can't beat a bunch of lifegain (weather, fangren marauder) so I have to have a mill strat vs fog or gardens
It's getting better,
What is?
@@kalikaiz This deck, I've been following it's progress for a while.
@@I1caro ah sweet
You are definetly playing on MOL premium. My version of the game can never found tron like that.
I love it when a plan comes together :)
Hey im trying to learn how to play tron can you explain to me why in game one you didnt want the altar? Ty so much
Do you have a timestamp?
At that point in the game altar isn't really doing anything for us. I was just looking for Mana and stuff to draw more stuff basically. I felt that tower was better at helping us move forward
Ty!
YESSSS, love to see it!
Thanks!
Congrats on the 10-0!
Thanks!
Could you try monster tron?
I have an old video on monster Tron. I don't think anyone has done well with it lately. I'm always up for a line jump if you want to do a deck donation on Patreon or by contacting me directly :)
please fix your sound to have right ear pleasure, thank you
also you didn't face UB/UR faeries so this 5:0 doesn't count
Thanks I guess. I tried but failed on the sound
Tron ❤
I love when this deck is good
How do you find this deck against BG garden?
Absolutely dumpsters gardens. In mtgo you have to use stream so you don't time out though and that is hard to pull off
@@kalikaiz Oh don't worry i would play this deck paper in local tournament :D
But i still need to figure out how it works against most common deck!
BG Gardens Is basically a bye for you. Their deck Is full of useless removal, they didn't have counters and they don't pressure you in anyway until turn 4-5 at their best... and even post SB they have only some artifact hate (ouphe/deglamer) and some graveyard hate (usually not relic of progenitus since they care about their graveyard too).
It's seriously like a 90-10 matchup for you.
@@alessandromalvasi7768 yes but on mtgo it's like a 0% matchup post board because they bring in fangren and weather to go for timeout. That's specifically why I have stream there 🤣🤣
@@kalikaiz Indeed, i was not thinking about mtgo since the guy here Will play irl only
Altar tron is my 💩. Can we see you rock some pauper elves?!
Mayyyyyybe. But definitely as a donation deck 😜
@@kalikaizsounds good to me! How do I make that happen? Patreon?
@@robertjameson1959 yep Patreon or we can do PayPal direct. Feel free to PM me on discord or Twitter, tag me if you pm me on Twitter so I know to check (they get hidden)
I know Kalikaiz doesn’t want to hear this, but this and Familiars are the least interesting videos for me. Just looking for spicy stuff :)
@@chowchowww the data says this as well sadly
Our very very very easy league, 3 Boros which is a joke, a WW and a UB Terror easy deck.....
Easier than that getting 5 byes hahaha
Too free indeed
@@kalikaiz Boros and UB terror are very weak against tron!
Why play weather the storm?? Ok u shuld look this like a wincon, but i vs burn isn’t enough
vs a not-kuldotha deck it buys you a ridiculous amount of time. vs kuldotha you combine it with wipes