UW Familiars vs Combo Tron | Does Infinite Life Beat Infinite Damage?

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  • You all asked for it so much, we had to do it again, Andrea Mengucci & Thoralf Severin battle it out with the strongest Pauper Combo decks they could find! Can Infinite Life beat Infinite Damage?
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Komentáře • 471

  • @CardmarketMagic
    @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +37

    🏰⚙ Decklists: bit.ly/3nHgt16

    • @danjunior55
      @danjunior55 Před rokem

      Is it just me, but i dont see em?

    • @door5026
      @door5026 Před rokem

      does the golem foundry work like this? it reads when you cast a spell, but you are not casting a card from your grave, it is just put onto the battle field?

    • @simonetjulien6310
      @simonetjulien6310 Před rokem +5

      ​@@door5026 mir retriever puts the card in your hand, so he casts it again with the 2 mana he got from sacrificing the other mir

    • @door5026
      @door5026 Před rokem

      Cool ty for clearing it up 😁

    • @brisinger117
      @brisinger117 Před rokem

      link is broken it seems

  • @jongibson4766
    @jongibson4766 Před rokem +557

    I don't understand how a single pauper match can be *this* captivating and people still are afraid to play without rares and mythics. Seriously, this was one of the most entertaining matches I've seen in awhile, very well done all around

    • @Hunted0LessShirt
      @Hunted0LessShirt Před rokem +44

      Pauper has become such a wild format in recent times. Described as Legacy lite for over a decade (for good reason) but the decks have gotten so powerful and diverse without insane planeswalkers and legends with walls of text that it's really something special.

    • @BrazayB
      @BrazayB Před rokem +38

      honestly as a pauper player I find it harder to play without uncommons sometimes rather than mythics and rares.

    • @OtherSideLLC
      @OtherSideLLC Před rokem +5

      ​@@BrazayBI really want to put Khenra in a prowess deck but alas uncommon

    • @screamyhawk4004
      @screamyhawk4004 Před rokem +6

      I heard someone say "Only commons? That's so slow and boring" 😂

    • @devidviezzi9126
      @devidviezzi9126 Před rokem +4

      ​@@screamyhawk4004 the only reason pauper Will never become a huge format is that there are few money to be made... Beside that, it's a great affordable format even for beginners

  • @jacobparker1651
    @jacobparker1651 Před rokem +122

    I think what makes Mengu such a great guest here (and great person for Magic in general) is that he genuinely loves every format that he plays, even if he's not as familiar with it, and it makes it so fun to watch every match that he's a part of

  • @nathanielreichley4640
    @nathanielreichley4640 Před rokem +155

    Mengu is a great guest he has such good chemistry with the crew and he and Toffel bring such a high caliber of skill too (...of course so do Carl and Jamin, obviously)

  • @blueplayer6197
    @blueplayer6197 Před rokem +55

    I don't know what it is about Toffel but the man just brings positive energy and he is really skilled too.
    Just fantastic.

  • @colgatelampinen2501
    @colgatelampinen2501 Před rokem +299

    Mengu is the best human being ever. We want to see him every day.

  • @DackKija
    @DackKija Před rokem +94

    Back and already dropping Pauper with Mengucci. Carl is king

  • @heitortremor
    @heitortremor Před rokem +34

    I do really appreciate the competitive gameplay and commentary for paper magic. So many channels either have more casual players or just play on Arena.

  • @Cynsham
    @Cynsham Před rokem +28

    The Mengucci content is some of the best on the channel, please bring him back more

  • @ConManAU
    @ConManAU Před rokem +8

    Andrea vs Thoralf is always an amazing matchup. Two champion Magic players, insane combo decks, really insightful commentary/interviews, and the layout of the game both physically and in post-production makes it easy to see what’s going on.

  • @outputcoupler7819
    @outputcoupler7819 Před rokem +16

    I love Mengu's deadpan sass. Oh, you have infinite counters?
    Fantastic.

  • @Awesomesausages
    @Awesomesausages Před rokem +34

    Mengu and the Cardmarket team, what more could we ask for

  • @giacomofasulo3861
    @giacomofasulo3861 Před rokem +20

    Please for the love of God hire mengu permanently, even if he doesn't want it, I crave this content

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +21

      We offered, but it'll take an army to get him to move from Sunny Italy 🇮🇹

    • @giacomofasulo3861
      @giacomofasulo3861 Před rokem +2

      ​@@CardmarketMagic I'm from Italy so I understand him

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad Před rokem +8

    I don't care about magic anymore but I still watch these. Such great folks having a good time.

  • @goombadoagnew9358
    @goombadoagnew9358 Před rokem +8

    What an amazing matchup, these games are immensely entertaining and super valuable for learning the reasonings behind certain decisions in competitive play. also i love the way that Mengu’s deck can outpace Thoralf’s infinite damage with “infinity plus one” life

  • @TaisxD
    @TaisxD Před rokem +26

    Man I've missed you guys. The carl tips was cool, the decks were a bunch of fun and Toffel+Mengu is always a ridiculously good combi

  • @polarmage2577
    @polarmage2577 Před rokem +6

    Pauper with these two is probably my favorite type of videos here.

  • @user-fu7no1xu5b
    @user-fu7no1xu5b Před rokem +8

    Carl this was by far the best match on this channel. I really like the new "carl comments" at the top of the screen lol.
    Also I love both of these players and would love to see them more often.
    Thank you for the entertaining content!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +4

      Thank you for watching it :) maybe the Carl comments can be a regular feature

  • @loxeggcheese
    @loxeggcheese Před rokem +4

    It’s always a delight to see mengu playing the format of the people! Also wow meeting of the minds seems pretty insane, might have to try it out in caw gates

  • @ClanCrusher
    @ClanCrusher Před rokem +2

    33:30 That was so cheeky. "If you want to negate that..." I would have loved to see the alternate timeline where it did get negated and watch that game play out.

  • @sharnaff
    @sharnaff Před rokem +2

    Getting to meet Toffel and having him autograph one of the cards in my pauper deck was the highlight of my Magicon.

  • @Okreta
    @Okreta Před rokem +4

    Love mengu. His veedeos helped me qualify for my first bigger tournament with a borrowed deck I had never piloted before. Keep bringing him back!

  • @thesleepinggloom2603
    @thesleepinggloom2603 Před rokem +1

    The crew that got me into pauper in the first place! Love it! I'll always shout out how good of a channel this is!!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +1

      Thank you! :) always glad to know we got someone into pauper! My favourite format!

  • @dexterkennedy6710
    @dexterkennedy6710 Před rokem +4

    Absolutely love the pauper content, keep up the good work👍

  • @smokyprogg
    @smokyprogg Před rokem +8

    Mengu has such a fun energy to him. Gotta respect both his skill and approach to the game

  • @davidhansen5067
    @davidhansen5067 Před rokem +8

    Enjoying the Mengucci videos, but I'd also really love to see Frank Karsten back again sometime!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +4

      We almost had him back a few weeks ago for an exciting new series that we are starting next week! It did not work out, but we will definitely be having Frank over again :)

    • @davidhansen5067
      @davidhansen5067 Před rokem +2

      @@CardmarketMagic That's great! I'm excited to see the new series, and whatever you can get Frank in for.

  • @chummer2060
    @chummer2060 Před rokem +2

    You two are some of my favorite Magic people. Thanks for the great games.

  • @Razomka
    @Razomka Před rokem +1

    Excellent stuff! Definitely more of Mengucci!
    Also, there was a typo in the Carl updates 😅
    The editing was bomb as well, I see a few improvements and they are spicy!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +5

      There will always be typos in the Carl updates 😅 English is not my first language, and my spelling is generally terrible

  • @andreash.9251
    @andreash.9251 Před rokem

    Awesome Match and you both are such awesome people. I'd love to see more like this!

  • @ericdobrowski5033
    @ericdobrowski5033 Před rokem +1

    I love these games, you guys make this game look so easy!! I'm always down for more Mengu and will always watch a video he is in, thank you for putting this together!

  • @NearlyKira
    @NearlyKira Před rokem +2

    love love love love Mengu! Enjoy seeing him lots in the already fantastic cardmarket videos ❤

  • @Thorg42
    @Thorg42 Před rokem +3

    Keep having fun gentlemen. We'll keep enjoying the commentary and the games. Sharing this with you is a real privilege

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +2

      It's a privilege on our end too :) thank you for being here! We are very grateful

  • @Hikorzik
    @Hikorzik Před rokem

    Love the pauper veedeeos with Thoralf and Mengu! I'm brewing a fams list too eheh it was nice to see it in play

  • @aneurintaylor8084
    @aneurintaylor8084 Před rokem +3

    pauper is truly the coolest format, for sure want more of it

  • @marekjurcik
    @marekjurcik Před rokem

    Mengu FTW!-) More vids with Andrea and pauper are welcome. Thank you for the wonderful content! Nice animations and sounds btw.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem

      Thank you :) I put a lot of effort into making these videos. And Andrea will, of course, be coming back for more content after this series

  • @peterrowley110
    @peterrowley110 Před rokem

    love the friendly competition. both of you are amazing!

  • @z33pys5
    @z33pys5 Před rokem +1

    More pauper please! ❤❤ Love seeing you two battle it out 🙌

  • @maxhammond3398
    @maxhammond3398 Před rokem +3

    I LOVE SEEING OTHER FORMATS AND I WANT TO WATCH MORE IN PERSON 1V1’s😊

  • @matteomazzola3958
    @matteomazzola3958 Před rokem +1

    Nice deck! Keep up with the combo content

  • @mosesdaugird6874
    @mosesdaugird6874 Před rokem

    What great editing! Awesome gameplay too! Love it.

  • @isaacsantos6200
    @isaacsantos6200 Před rokem +3

    Could I get an explanation of the combo with the retriever? 😅 Would love to see more of these!!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +9

      Sure!
      Step 1: have one Myr retriever in the graveyard ans one on the board. Also have an Ashnod's Altar and a Golem Foundry on the board.
      Step 2: sacrifice your Myr retriever to the Altar, adding 2 mana and triggering the Retriever, which allows you to bring the Retriever from the graveyard back to your hand.
      Step 3: Play the retriever from your hand with the 2 floating mana. This adds a counter to the Foundry. You find yourself back at Step 1, but with one extra counter on the Golem Foundry.
      Repeat steps 1-3 until you have 999 counters on the Golem Foundry.
      Use the counters on the Foundry to make 333 Golems. Sacrifice any amount of Golems to the Altar to add yourself as much mana as you want. Need more mana? Repeat steps 1-3 as many times as you like. When ready, attack with your golems.

  • @1ntegrator
    @1ntegrator Před rokem

    Such a great video, Mengu is always fantastic to see. Not just because he is an amazing magic player with great charisma but also because he is accepts defeat so gracefully. Love to see him every time.
    Also both of you played really well and provided entertaining and insightful commentary

  • @Niakk55
    @Niakk55 Před rokem

    That was a great match I truly love the interviews the thought process really helps with what I should be thinking as well thank you again

  • @eric.ingram
    @eric.ingram Před rokem +1

    I really enjoy the Mengucci content but I especially appreciate Thoralf and how he let me get a picture with him in Minneapolis. For the record I would’ve definitely “paid” (done) 30 push-ups for one.

  • @tigertailboss8970
    @tigertailboss8970 Před rokem +1

    Mengu is such a fantastic player, I love watching him especially on card market with the pace yall have in your videos, legit my favourite magic content right here, please bring him back for more games and videos

  • @ReederMG
    @ReederMG Před rokem +1

    3 great games! Loved watching Mengu run away with it in game 1 and then Toffel run away with it in game 3

  • @Knightgum2
    @Knightgum2 Před rokem +1

    Really fun matches to watch! Combo tron is always nice cuz it looks like a machine getting assembled. And Mengu is always great to see

  • @SeleenShadowpaw
    @SeleenShadowpaw Před rokem

    The delivery of 'Mean and _hateful_ counterspells' really spoke to me :D

  • @Chaoslorden
    @Chaoslorden Před rokem

    Excellent show and I love when you show games like this. ❤

  • @AHopelessBunny
    @AHopelessBunny Před rokem

    I did thoroughly enjoy that. Thanks

  • @josefinacabrera589
    @josefinacabrera589 Před rokem +2

    Love these competitive 1v1 matches!!

  • @marc-antoineboudreau2317

    Amazing as always!

  • @Unhappypanda
    @Unhappypanda Před rokem

    Always love to see some good old pauper on the channel keep it up!

  • @dks6515
    @dks6515 Před rokem

    This was some awesome to watch, pauper is so cool!

  • @djanpo993
    @djanpo993 Před rokem

    Great video! Glad that you got 3 good keeps and 3 interactive games

  • @Sk82478
    @Sk82478 Před rokem

    I love how the music kicks in when he ephemerates mulldrifter cause “We’re doing it baby!”

  • @bagualjueeegos5489
    @bagualjueeegos5489 Před rokem

    Por lejos quizás el mejor canal con contenido de mtg en la actualidad.
    By far the best channel with mtg content. Congrats !!

  • @AndreaMengucci
    @AndreaMengucci Před rokem +1

    It makes so happy to read the comments of these Pauper Veedeos I record with you guys. Can't wait to be back :)

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +2

      According to the comments, we should be getting you a flat in Berlin 😅

  • @dokanzan5623
    @dokanzan5623 Před rokem

    Love to see this two together, but i miss Arne VS andre/thoralf, as always nice video guys!

  • @Peinfull87
    @Peinfull87 Před rokem

    Ohh that tron deck is kinda like a deck i made tons of years ago with all the artifact lands, the retrievers, the krark clan ironworks, the goblin charbelcher and disciple of the vault. Yes i know there was more than 1 combo there, but had to do it just in case since i didn't have enough money for all the good cards i wanted, so i had to get creative, deck was lots of fun at the time.

  • @luckyowl9191
    @luckyowl9191 Před rokem

    I've been freaking waiting for this! Hell yeah!

  • @matthiasklepsch899
    @matthiasklepsch899 Před rokem

    So nice to See Mengu and Thoralf playing some Pauper. Regarding the Myr Retriever combo, a short Animation or flow chart explaining combo would be nice ...

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem

      They did not talk about it long enough for me to make an adequate overlay and I thought that pausing the video would ruin the pacing. But if you like, I can explain the combo to you here :)

  • @ryukaze20
    @ryukaze20 Před rokem +1

    This makes me wanna build a Pauper deck... Nice match

  • @m1xxx3r
    @m1xxx3r Před rokem +2

    It's always gonna be a blast when Mengu's in da house! ❤

  • @-homerow-
    @-homerow- Před rokem

    More Pauper with Mengu!!!
    These videos help me pick bulk to the bone!

  • @MrTandtrollet
    @MrTandtrollet Před rokem

    @37:00 You never discard the 1-off Mortuary Mire!!! =O

  • @cowmooie
    @cowmooie Před rokem +1

    I love these videos so much. Pioneer is my fav but all of its good with jamin and toffel

  • @Nighterfighter1771
    @Nighterfighter1771 Před rokem +1

    Always great to watch professionals play Magic!

  • @FreddieCleeve
    @FreddieCleeve Před rokem

    Watching Mengu playing pauper is awesome seeing how he plays is so cool! We need more pauper and more Mengu!

  • @superstarichiban
    @superstarichiban Před 2 měsíci

    I have this eggs deck, and it's my favorite combo in pauper next to Cycle Storm. Obviously, I love my mono red deck, but I like gaining 36 life on my opponents' turn and then untapping with infinite dummies

  • @herrar6595
    @herrar6595 Před rokem +2

    Pauper seems like a great format, never thought only commons could escalate like this....

  • @salbaca1104
    @salbaca1104 Před rokem

    i am looking into maybe trying my hand at pauper as i have seen it played a few times on the channel is the format exp. to get into and if not what would be a good starter deck to start with.

  • @andesmountain9178
    @andesmountain9178 Před rokem

    Ooh pro player tip from a fellow pro- mengu bottomed the ash barrens in their opening hand game two when mulling to 6, but should have kept it.
    The reason being you play ash barrens turn one. Turn two float the mana from it, play the chancery, and then cycle the barrens you bounced back to hand, with the mana it produced that turn. That way you deck thin by one, and instead of having an island and chancery, you have an island or plains, and a chancery, and two drawn cards to see if you need the white or blue more.

  • @fabioandrade8476
    @fabioandrade8476 Před rokem

    Love seeing paper pauper, keep them coming.

  • @ewaep
    @ewaep Před rokem +1

    I'd like to see "Moggwartz school of chicanery" pauper deck revolving around first day of class and persist goblins. murderous redcap/putrid goblin with a sac outlet. skirk prospector + sling gang liutenant or mogg raider + attacking creatures

  • @noahjaffe3094
    @noahjaffe3094 Před rokem +1

    10:47 Thoralf's Mengu impression spot on lol

  • @nidunha14
    @nidunha14 Před rokem

    You guys should host a card market pauper tournament and post the matches each edited like this! Would love to see everyone bring their favorite decks and root for my favorites! (Mengu too please).

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +1

      We would love to! If only these videos did not take so long for me to edit 😅 we'd be doing tournament series all the time. Especially pauper

  • @EmperorTime
    @EmperorTime Před rokem +1

    I've gotta buy both these decks. So awesome

    • @EmperorTime
      @EmperorTime Před rokem

      Watching them play and talk through the plays helps so much with the general strategy and concepts. I love these videos! Thank you 😀

  • @PeterKorlus
    @PeterKorlus Před rokem

    Love Pauper content. Keep it coming!

  • @LucasCosta-hi8ig
    @LucasCosta-hi8ig Před rokem +1

    love you both!!! Mengu and Arne are top notch!

  • @heitortremor
    @heitortremor Před rokem +2

    I'm so excited for Pauper!

  • @justinleblanc9089
    @justinleblanc9089 Před rokem +2

    I am so happy to see you guys playing pauper again! Awesome video!

  • @ananmaysahu4563
    @ananmaysahu4563 Před 7 měsíci

    wait so does Carl do the editing for EVERY video? because holy shit those are some clean, simple, easy to read graphics. I am never EVER confused about what is happening despite how complex magic is because of the brilliant graphic displays showing everything that is happening.

  • @jasongray435
    @jasongray435 Před rokem

    What a great match! Suddenly I want to play Pauper. Hmmm...I've got the Tron lands...

  • @MrTandtrollet
    @MrTandtrollet Před rokem

    @19:40 but Mengu.... playing th emulldrifter was free as it taps for the convoke of Meeting of Minds xD

  • @albaeemperor9103
    @albaeemperor9103 Před rokem

    Both would not be my first choice of deck but nice gameplay. Its a pity, that there are no big pauper tournaments in germany.
    Hopefully this will change in the future.

  • @XTimTheEnchanterX
    @XTimTheEnchanterX Před rokem

    Oh boy more Mengu, I'll take as much Mengu on the channel as possible!

  • @vulpescana1779
    @vulpescana1779 Před rokem

    Very nice,thank you ❤

  • @johnread5030
    @johnread5030 Před rokem

    Love the pauper content :)

  • @Shafournee
    @Shafournee Před rokem +1

    I always want more Mengu!!

  • @creamabdul-jabbar
    @creamabdul-jabbar Před rokem

    love the rpg npc carl text box

  • @cameton_youtube
    @cameton_youtube Před rokem

    Love pauper, very much looking forward to this!

  • @bluesmanshoes
    @bluesmanshoes Před rokem

    6:04 That Skyrim bear sound

  • @cooljoe500
    @cooljoe500 Před rokem +10

    Mengu is a great guy. Always enjoy his videos on your channel.

  • @kathleenbirrell3222
    @kathleenbirrell3222 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Toffel saying “my chromatic if you want to negate it” calling out mengu after talking about how important it is that he doesn’t negate it is so ballsy and funny 😂😂

  • @PraetorianCuber
    @PraetorianCuber Před rokem

    mengu and the cardmarket team are the best human beings ever! we want to see them everyday!

  • @theblakwarior
    @theblakwarior Před rokem

    I love pauper and I love mengu

  • @Ricardo-zo1ti
    @Ricardo-zo1ti Před rokem

    Best people, best format! ❤️

  • @robclayton9612
    @robclayton9612 Před rokem

    Awesome, as a very very naive player seeing the high level of play here is fab. More! Go thoralf!

  • @josephbelmaresiii7682
    @josephbelmaresiii7682 Před 7 měsíci

    Love your guys content keep it up