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- čas přidán 12. 04. 2009
- Dr. Sherman Jackson responds to an audience question regarding Gay Muslims and homosexuality in Islam. Clip from Cultivating an Indigenous Muslim Culture part of the Shuruq 2009 Islam Awareness series held at New York University in April 2009.
In addition to rejecting and banning any commenters that use profanity, homophobic or violent language I will also now be rejecting comments that are not specifically related to the topic. There are over 1,000 comments to this video. What you have to say has probably already been stated numerous times. Read the comments. If you have NOTHING NEW TO ADD then don't post. And if you are here to debate homosexuality DON'T POST. Watch the video. STAY ON TOPIC.
Ma sha Allah, so many brothers and sisters allow 'profanity, homophobic or violent language' and even insults in their comments, I am so pleased to see someone who doesn't. Jazak Allahu khair. As for the topic, this is exactly it. And explained very clearly.
does that include 1 str8 from the koran???
"I have not been commanded by God to cut open people's chests to see what is inside their hearts." -Muhammad pbuh
Dynevor Shannon No, It's trying to say that Don't judge people. Because No matter what We do, we'll never know What's inside a persons mind, Use your brain a little, and Don't Try to be a smart ass, because it Looks embarrassing. Have a Good day
"An individual who engages in homosexual behaviour is not disqualified from being a muslim".
That's right. A person engaging in that is not a disbeliever as long as he admits that he is doing a mistake, as homosexuality is undisputably HARAM in Islam.
But when one does it openly, viewing it as permissable, in spite of the Quran and Sunnah both prohibiting it he has nullified his Islam.
only ALLAH can judge his creature! im so sad that other muslims kill or prison someone just because she/he is gay! I believe Islam is the safe place to hide, under ALLAH's Protection I Accept myself as a muslim and gay.
Mustafa sheikh Allah never said that in the QURAN. He only told us "Zina" (sex without marriage) is a sin but Not Homosexual. Those Luth/lott people had wife and they left their wife to have sex with man! That's why ALLAH put the surah in there bcs of that case! Whoever have wife should have not had sex with ANYONE (man or woman) except his wife!
Mustafa sheikh did Allah teach you to bully someone who's different from you? Are you sure you are a muslim? i might be gay, and that doesnt mean im less muslim than you! my sexual identity doesnt define my religion.. everyone has right to believe in ALLAH. Only Allah who knows which one is right!
Lut. Enough said.
Mikhail Smith I have to be frank with you, but you cannot be Muslim and homosexual. Under God's protection you should forswear your sins and God will give you grace and forgiveness.
you people just acted u know more than ALLAH :3 what kind of muslim are you?
Its a tough position no doubt. and people who have this inclination are no doubt worthy of emphathy as it is a struggle. The question starts with the framework you are operating under as an individual. If muslim, the framework is simple. This life is short and meant to be a test. The real life is yet to come. Nobody in heaven is going to think for a second of the challenges they faced on earth. However, if you believe this world is all there is, then yes, holding back on your inherit desires seems cruel and unusual.
But i have freinds that are in their 40s who cant get married for various reasons. Does that mean fornication should be allowed? We would say no. Does that mean if they become weak and make a mistake, they are no longer human, no of course not. We are not our desires. Im married, i desire other women ALOT. But i dont becuase we are not our desires. We are what we believe and sometimes belief and action contradict one another. Thats the nature of being human and this world. Most people, including me at times are way to insensitive towards these people. If our kids happen to be gay, our tune would change dramatically. We need to show more compassion.
Whatever he just said its true in Christian churches too... We embrace people with their wicked tendencies but not their actions and if they are true in seeking and following the true GOD then their actions need to be changed and their wicked ways put aside...
Heaven is made up of saints and sinners. So what's your point? You will not be the judge at eternity. Only God knows our hearts. So what's your point? And who are you? Are you a hypocrite..you are if you sin...are you without sin? Are you holier-than-thou? If you are, Allah has your number? You need a slice of 'humble pie.'
tiptoe242
No, heaven is just made up of saints that left sin aside to do what is right...(That's my only point) I think that you may need an anger management class to help you out...
+Forex
"with their wicked tendencies"
There's nothing wicked about homosexuality, and that you think there is is already the root of the problem.
thanks for uploading this clip. i've always felt this way about the topic and the imam here says the exact same thing!
@RedSeaCoral I believe in the free and open exchange of opinions and ideas even those that I disagree with as long as they are respectful. Your comments are a prime example. I disagree yet aired them. Now feel free to respond directly to Dr. Jackson.
People are more than "tendencies" or "actions"...... It's impossible for someone who is not homosexual to understand it because it's not their experience...He's not qualified to be the spokesperson for homosexuals...they are not saying "you must accept homosexual acts"...they say .." Can you please try to understand that this is my path and I'm trying my best to live this life the best I can from start to finish (just like you )and be what I feel at the deepest level I am without fearing those who tease and persecute me, injure and shame me, make me want to kill myself, or worse, throw me from the roofs of buildings to my death....and that when I fall in LOVE it's not with who the WORLD thinks I should fall in LOVE with....it's just what has always felt right, natural and honest to me BEFORE I ever heard it was "wrong". That I have to trust the Creator's creation of me for ONLY He knows the answers WHY".....
Lots of gays in islam see Arabia, Afghanistan.
this might be off topic but anybody know who's the person next to Dr Sherman at beginning?0:14
Is he speaker too? I think I watched his video somewhere...
@Kevstar19 Any solid written evidence? I would love to see them...
What are homosexual Muslim men and women supposed to do to repress their feelings? Obviously they are a homosexual and have the rest of their lives to live. They are forced to remain celibate or marry a woman (which doesn't seem to make sense seeing as though they are homosexual). They can marry and have children and Grandchildren if they wish, but obviously that means that they not only marry someone they are not attracted to and presumably don't love but also somebody else's son or daughter will be entering into a marriage with someone who is homosexual. Surely, this is not fair on them either.
I have three questions.
1) How are Muslim men and women supposed to suppress their homosexual feelings?
2) Who can they talk to about this?
3) Why are some people born with homosexual inclinations but then told by religious institutions that their feelings are sinful when these individuals didn't ask to be homosexual in the first place?
It's about putting Allah's choice and will above our own choices.
So when Allah has clearly negated homosexuality in Islam then we are supposed to respect that and accept it.
It's the same case if you take pork.
Consider a person who loves eating pork only to realize that it's banned in Islam....
Well, then LOGIC says that he should stop eating it even if it's unfair. Why? Because Allah does not like the intake of pork. It is Haram (absolutely forbidden)
So why should we do it? Just to fulfill our needs?
If that's the case then we cannot be described as followers of Islam because we never managed to bend to His will.
Let me explain carefully. A Muslim is here, in this world, ONLY and only TO ABIDE BY THE CREATOR'S RULES. THAT'S what defines us.
(And I don't care what you say about not having free will or something like that because that's NOT the topic at hand!)
Now when a person is BORN HOMOSEXUAL, then obviously we can expect leniency from our Lord, because Allah is aware of it. Whatever, that person does forward is a matter between him and God. We can leave it at that.
However, if a person CHOOSES to be physically swayed...or to allow lust to confuse him/her where to target that lust, on a man or a woman, then obviously it goes against Allah's will and thus, against Islam. Because they allowed their own needs to cloud their hearts before Allah's will.
Support Justice for Rolf Harris Its a tough position no doubt. and people who have this inclination are no doubt worthy of emphathy as it is a struggle. The question starts with the framework you sre operating under ad an individual. Of muslim, the framework is simple. This life is short and meant to be a test. The real life is yet to come. Nobody in heaven is going to think for a second of the challenges they faced on earth. However, if you believe this world is all there is, then yes, holding back on your inherit desires seems cruel and unusual. But i have freinds that are in their 40s who cant get married for various reasons. Does that mean fornication should be allowed? We would say no. Does that mean if they become weak and make a mistake, they are no longer human. no of course not. We are not our desires. Im married, i desire other women ALOT. But i dont becuase we are not our desires. We are what we believe and sometimes belief and action contradict one another.
MrModeratemuslim You sound like quite a sincere person and I mean no disrespect to you in what i'm about to say but I often find that religion makes otherwise intelligent people say and do irrational things.
For example, you mention that nobody in heaven is going to remember the challenges they faced on Earth. That may be true, but God created a system whereby those who pass the test go to heaven and those who fail (regardless of their good deeds on Earth) are literally ROASTED for all eternity. That's a barbaric test!
There are many people who sincerely in their heart do not believe in God and there are others who sincerely believe they are following God but aren't. God himself gave us brains capable of making different decisions, but if we don't eventually make a decision that is acceptable to him - he will punish that individual in the most monstrous, barbaric way. What a truly sick test! You can't seriously be condoning that?
God created homosexuals and then tells them that if they act on their attractions which is something that is perfectly natural to them, he will burn them in hell for all eternity in the afterlife. People have lived some truly unhappy lives because of religion, people have experienced unimaginable suffering in order to please whatever God they believe in and we are led to believe that this is because he is "testing" them. We then go to heaven if we pleased him or we ROAST in hell for all eternity if we do not and he did this for NO reason whatsoever.
This is unimaginable cruelty! It's a cruel, pointless test by a God who didn't have to conduct this test at all, yet he chose to play mind games with us for no apparent reason according to people of religion. What a completely pointless thing to do!
but is homosexuality the result of nature or nurture?
Abdurahman Ibrahim In all seriousness, who cares whether it is because of nature or nurture? It really doesn't matter.....
What happened to the people of Lut? Allah is the most wise and he knows what's best for us as he is our creator.
+Ibrahim Mahmud Prove it.
+fred smith he doesn't have to prove anything, the backside is off limits even for heterosexuals, hence the homosexual discussion is redundant.
+fred smith he cant ...but i can tell u that there is a huge possibility that Allah
had punished the people of LUT because they were molesting prophet LUT and his
angel guests ...Lut was living amongst them his whole life and THE
CREATOR did not punish them since until they took it too far by
molesting..
Allah punished the people of Lut cuz they made it ok and acceptable in their society, not only that but said to anyone who didn't engage with them you think you are pure and better than us.
indeed.The Quran is clear this is not and cannot be an ok way of life.Maybe it's your struggle and we support you in overcoming and love the one who is sincere in partaking in that kind of jihadul nafs,but you can't then say this is me it's fine and you MUST accept me as such because it's fine with God and that you declare that it is not a sin that then is a lie as the Quran and even the Bible are clear on the matter.He spoke well on the matter
@Shnakalaka I am not the speaker in the video. I simply recorded and uploaded Dr. Jackson's response. It would be best for you to contact him. Do a search online for where he is currently teaching and email him your question. Thank you.
MashAllah very well explained!
Well done sir,as I even being Muslim,had confusions regarding this topic.
The questions of non-muslim are sort of an education for us as we are laerning our DEEN more accurately coz we hav to reply them with clarity.Keep up the good work of asking questions to the Muslims.
Allah has HIS own ways of a change in communities,subhanAllah.PEACE to ALL :))
Sunni Islam? There's only Islam.
he's speaking for a school of opinions that might differ. and yes sunnis and shiits are diverging on some hardcore issues of belief in islam
No it's not like drinking wine do you ever read in Quran about people have been punished by Allah over drinking
Don't mix things
It's a huge sine and we all know that
+xxXxXx dear brother, people have been punished by allah over many things, but thats allah punishing, and he chooses to punish in this world or in the hereafter. The speaker says homosexuality is like drinking in reference to the topic, which means the gay person is accepted in islam just like the person who drinks, and he is right. Drinking doesn't make you a non-believer, its a punishable sin, so is committing act with same sex. Therefore, it's wrong to say the gay person cannot be a muslim, and thats what the speaker is talking about.
+xxXxXx
How about promiscuity (the sin of HETEROSEXUAL fornication)?
How about HETEROSEXUAL adultery?
How about killing?
How about false testomy (and say, it leads o the death of someone)?
where does it say homosexuality is kufr and worse than murder and zina? im sure you are familiar with the seven fatalities. if what you say is true, then homosexuality should've been there.
Don't just put quotation marks and expect me to say oh yes you are right. i said to you where does it say homosexuality is kufr and i mean a vers. So why don't you try again, and if there isn't anything like you said and im sure there is not i expect you to admit that you lied and made it up.
John Smith: yes, takfir is no easy matter, if you accuse someone of apostasy wrongly it's worse that killing
this one thing that led takfiris in the wrong path and they started killing all people for random reasons.
don't justify kufr with sin, sin doesn't make someone a kafir, go read about juriprudence (fiqh) before making wrong accusations and fatwas, if you don't know, keep silent it's better for you.
don't know you know that khawaridj wrongdoing was how they claimed that a major sin makes you a non-muslim and justified killing, they the cause of the great fitna.
The speaker made a specific description as speaking from a Suni perspective. Is there a difference from Shia & Suni on "actions as opposed to tendencies" (as in alcoholism, etc) ?
For instance in context of "excommunication" as the speaker put it?
@saifmatic Please do not use CAPS. That is considered yelling. Just type the way you see everyone else typing please.
Very good video! I am gay, but I also follow some Islamic beliefs
+Bruce Finnie i just had a question, how do u view fornication.
k-led Mohd Fornication is fine between two loving adults are in a monogamous relationship.
Bruce Finnie oh ok I didn't notice u said u follow some Islamic beliefs, I thought u claimed otherwise. Anyways that belief on fornication is wrong Islamically and denies many verses of the Quran like verses of morality, marriage, fornication etc.
k-led Mohd Oh, ok. That's interesting. I don't really know what fornication is. I thought it was affection between two loving partners.
Bruce Finnie it's an act of penetration between adults. Affection between adults happen all the time. Long term friends do fall in love just as u would have love between parents and kids, siblings etc which is void of lust. Hence its ok for adults to love each other but the act of sexual penetration between unmarried adults which happens outside of marriage is fornication. Extra marital affair specifically the penetration comes under adultery.
This is what keeps Islam stuck in the 1st century.
You need structure in religion, just because a controversial issue comes up doesn't mean you have to comply with everyone else. That's why society is crumbling today! People are easily persuaded by anything that's shown on the media and anyone who doesn't agree with the majority is automatically "close minded" smh 😒
No, all you need is God. Screw structure. Follow God and forget all of the crap Man has created in his name under the term "religion", which is a just a scam to control people and exploit them for money.
noblelies that may be true for Christianity, but I don't see how people are being exploited or scammed in Islam? How can you follow God without guidance? Religion tells you what are sins and what things aren't how else are you supposed to know these things?
Just look at Iran. What a scam.
Islam is the newest monotheist religion and the bigger one, and the one that grows more... where is it stuck?
"and fabulous" haha I loved that !! Courage in your life my dear friend, from a muslim sister.
ICNYU knows the videos are up and have in fact directed others to check them out. The videos are also on facebook.
“A person is not to be blamed for his nature. Rather, he is to be blamed if he acts according to his nature.”
A very clear explanation. We need more answers to modern questions with this level of detail and understanding!
Beautifully put.
@RedSeaCoral -I'm not the speaker in the video bro. Direct your commentary to him.
thank you Dr. I found that very helpfull.
@SLAM234 Where was this enlightened comment during the era of Jim Crow?
Good Job & Great Reply! Debz Jessi
@mossbergvsworld
Thanks for sharing. Feel better?
@NinjaRC
this guy is brave enough to open his mind and shift viewpoint according to logic. psychological strength is often mistaken for softness.
Thank you Walkietalkie74!
I'm Muslim as well and when I was younger than I am now, when I was in high school and maybe even a few years after that, I held prejudiced views against homosexuals as my peers who grew up with me did. But after this immature phase, I was more accepting of it. I even voted against California's Prop 8 in 2008, which defined marriage as that solely between a man and a woman. Why? Aside from maturing in age, I felt, that there are homosexuals who are more Islamic/righteous than non-homosexuals.
@TheSeyeda
then why are some folk born gay/ bi-sexual/transgendered??
@nofreedom4racists...as I stated in the past. I only filter vile language filled posts, threats of violence, ad hominem attacks etc. I do not filter for points of view articulated respectfully. If however you disagree and wish to contribute your comments in those environments you will find ample other places on CZcams to do so. I doubt you will find those places as much to your liking as you apparently find this one.
***Note*** Do not comment unless you actually WATCH the video. Also there are almost 1,000 comments now. Whatever you are going to say has probably already been said and posted. Keep that in mind before you post.
Wow the camera has so nice focus.
So only in the moment he's not a believer. As soon as he does the deed and stops, he may become a believer again. Is that correct?
Excellent! and well said
The only comments allowed referring to killing is when someone is quoting a Muslim scholar, companion of the Prophet or purported hadith. In these cases this is merely someone posting what the religion may or may not say. Just as the Bible has verses advocating what we may or may not agree with. But if you see a post that got through advocating murder from someone's own opinion then point it out so that I may remove it. (and you can leave off the "shame on you" stuff...it's silly)
@brotherdash im directing it to both of you, he made the remarks u aired them.
A response to Dr. Jackson: I have watched your video...and i understood your response and your support of the hadith..But how about taking a look at this!! I accept your opinion! But I want u to hear me out on this and think about it!!..let me start with what you said
1.)Actions only is what we take people for and not for tendencies...what about the hadith stating "enama al aamalo belneyat" translated = "Actions are but by intentions and every man shall have only that which he intended"
To be fair its a relevant point... at the very least an option in the control panel or a banned word list (like a router) that you can add to block certain comments.
I'd be pretty much certain there are third party applications that will do that for you-tube comments. It does use Googles API... if not its a great idea.
@Shnakalaka the law itself was made in some way that it really difficult to apply it if you don't confess and even when you confess it still difficult because you must be sure. There was hadith that even say that people came to the prophet to confess and he first didn't listen, and when the guy confess 4 time, the prophet ask him if he wasn't mad, he say no, and if he was married, and he said yes and then they stoned him.
the method is quite different form what we see today in IC
@saifmatic , Salaam, I'm not sure if you're aware of the credentials of Dr. Jackson. He is a world renowned , much sough after, muslim scholar, whose answer was thoughtful, practical and enlightening. If you were able to find any flaw in his logic or in the hadith that he used to illustrate the rationale behind which he issued his statement, then I would say you might want to answer the question yourself.
I appreciate Br. Jacksons articulate approach and indeed his understanding of Islams Compassion in terms of peoples faults or inclinations. Well put.
I agree with that, you can't help the way you feel, just like we can't help but feel angry at things that make us angry, it's whether we act on certain urges, and how.
A very well thought out answer.
@jungleboiy
Is it homosexuality itself or homosexual acts. It depends on the interpretation.
Man this guy explains it so well. I've never thought of it like that but this video has definately been an eye opener
Ive read some of the comments and some people are saying because there gay they feel like they're outcasts. This is absolutely true, but I reckon it would help so much if they grew there beards because nearly everyone judges people by there first look and having a beard would make everyone see that they are Muslims too.
Ive always wonderd how people become gay....anyone???
This was an amazing answer.
For one, you cannot simply "insert homosexual here" into a hadith. For another, the hadith clearly states "at the moment." What comes after the moment?
I only block comments for profanity, insults or for inciting violence. I don't police personal opinions.
If you'd see the verbal sewage that comes through on this thread you'd understand why. I wish I could just ban certain words so I wouldn't have to deal with this especially since after over 1,000 comments everything has already been said anyway yet people still keep commenting. But if I turn off commenting it removes the visibility for all comments not simply stop new ones...thus I take one for the team and deal with the rubbish so you don't have to. Carry on.
I think this guy makes the most sense so far, i am Muslim n gay n i totally understood what he means. Thank you so much Dr Sherman.
I didn't understand his argument. He didn't reference his source of hadith. Yes, there was a time when wine was acceptable up till the order came from Allah swt to quit the use of wine as it's harmful. Is there any reference where it can be proven his argument?
@cobraraoof and what are the consequences of all of the sins you commit on a daily basis???
where in the quran does it say that having homosexual sex is punishable by stonin (quran not hadith)
I know plenty of gay muslims, how old is this video?
Actaully epigenetics is a term that relates not just to alterations made to DNA or gene expression in-vitro, but also to changes to genes in the environment.
For example two identical twins with the same gene known to express as asthma (say DPP10) but with one living in a city and the other in the countryside would more likely result in the city dweller developing asthma.
That might even occur when both are in their 40's or 50's. They might even pass it on to children.
This is awesome.
@Bayngan what is shirk ?
@JiminyKracker well there aren't , why am i answering you clearly cause iam living in the middle east ksa
@brotherdash I am a new Muslim, and you said that Islam does not "excommunicate" adulterers, but why then does Sharia punishment for adultery mean death? Honest question, I would appreciate an answer. Thanks so much.
is he muslim sunni or shia ?
Respond to this video...
The need to approve comments was the result of having to constantly delete vile, garbage filled rants and profanity laced posts. No comment has been rejected for its argument only for how it was articulated. The point of posting the video and allowing comments is for people to be exposed to a response that is rarely articulated and to share in that discussion. It was not meant to be a haven for bathroom talk. As you can see your critique wasn't censored was it?
You are a respectable person and Muslim. I was a former Muslim, and "left" Islam in my teen years for personal reasons. I do however, still believe and practice some Islamic virtues in terms of being a stable, and balanced individual. However, many Muslims do not want to be equal, let alone practice the deep virtues that Islam states. I take solace in forums such as this one, that an individual must truly think about how to take on social situations such as the topic of homosexuality.
Very well said.
@noctis786 good stuff my brother, hold on the urge, i dont know how it feels to be gay but just stay strong man and iA allah will reward you.
First, I admire the fact that he was bold enough to address the issue because many Imams just don't want to talk about it.
Seriously, you can't shun people out of society , mosque, or lives in general just by their differences or so he says "behaviors. Imaan is with the person and Allah swt and the one above is the ONLY one who is has the RIGHT to judge! Hm.. for some reason ppl think they have that right?!
@Shnakalaka also any crime you get punished for in this life for you won't be punished for it in the after life so it might even be a mercy in its self!
you can still ask Dr.Jackson am sure he can give much better answers.
1. Did you get Dr Jackson's or IC-NYU's permission before putting this up?
2. There is a concept called due process of law. Nothing is as clear cut as the comment above making it out to be.
Now what Islam is about, Love everyone as long as they are believers. Baraka Allah Fik my brother, very good explanation..
@Dengkaidou do you really think so ?
I am a Muslim who happens to have homosexual desires sometimes, but at the same time I never felt comfortable every time a gay guy tries to hit on me. I am struggling with this, but at the same time I also find women attractive. Yet I did research on homosexuals, and the reason why these people are homosexuals because they were abused a lot from their parents and picked on by bullies. I also had this problem when i was younger. Both my parents were abusive, and I only have very few friends.
So the question is how do we address this social reality? There are Muslims with all sorts of realities that may not be in accordance with the tenets of Islam to varying degrees of being problematic. I found Dr. Jackson's response to be the most erudite I've heard.
THIS IS SO TRUE, wow ! perfectly worded.
Assalaamualaikum
I have a question: what if 2 men love each other and kiss and cuddle... But no sex?
@brotherdash one should not examine what is being worn but what is being said.
A very good point!
@etanielyehuda there is a difference between homosexual tendencies and homosexual "acts" which represent adultery what is so hard about that ?
ALL the Islamic scholars only talked about Homosexual men but no one talked about Mukhannath min Kalqin TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL MAN and Mukhannath min Kalqin. what should a muslim Mukhannath min Kalqin do to fulfil the sex desire????
@OurAshesWillFly If you heard the doctor he never said to patronize or condescend to homosexuals. He even made the point that those who fight hardest against there sinful desires gain greater rewards than those whom can easily bypass them. Would you (in being a true brother) patronize and condescend to your own brother? Let him know the wrong of his actions, yes, but constant patronizing will not change or settle the heart no matter what. This is what people do, not the religion.
At a time when people are too worried about being labeled a bigot for explaining a stance, Dr. Jackson isn't scared to voice it. That takes guts.
love this very much. It speaks loud and clear on how muslims should treat their gay brother or sister as a muslim and as a human in general. Allah knows best of the goods and bads among the humans..
We think the same but you can put it into words. Thank you.
@yuppppitsmeeee you should think of it more as a test than a punishment though the line gets blurry at times just have faith and also no person can have adultery thats not specific to gays so just keep god in your mind , read the quran preferably before sleeping or in last part of night and ask for guidance and more importantly believe that it will be given to you and allah knows best
@Velox415 Will if some one is talking, don't mean it's right..
Regardless of my agreement with your comments, I object to your requiring comments being approved. Limiting the discussion limits people from progress toward the truth.
@Shnakalaka
I think a simple way to put it..
1. We should not alienate, shun, persecute people who commit sins, even if they be homosexuals! This is what we should not "excommunicate" means.
2. We should reach out to, engage, speak to and most importantly help to grow the love for Allah in their hearts, such they can throw away bad ACTIONS, and help them to control their desires!
3. Those who refuse #2 - then the shariah punishment would be applied.
Does that make sense?
1.Nice shirt, mashallah. 2. Is that Khalid Latif next to yah? We all sin, openly or privately right? I mean "no son of adam goes without sin"? so it'll happen. This is just another sin. I feel thought there is a serious lack of sensitivity towards our brothers and sisters have different sexual orientations. Even the words we use, saying "it's their sickness, they need help" We all need help, brothers and sisters struggle with dating/feelings I see this in the same category
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I am Muslim. I am Gay. Allah made me Gay - if He didn't want me to be gay (and fabulous!), He wouldn't have made me this way. For those of you who think being gay is a mistake, it would thus be God's mistake. I am proud of who I am... and as for heaven or hell.... that's between Allah and me, and NO ONE ELSE!
@hsvluver considering the name tag say Abd al-Hakim Jackson, I'd say yes, he is a Muslim.
Will Allah forgive us for what we have done?
+Haram Series Of course, Allah forgives whomever he will and no one holds him accountable for what he does, however his forgiveness should not be taken as an advantage over, as in a person sins freely with no intention to improve and repent thinking Allah will forgive, all ppl sin but there should be an effort to improve, the verses of Allah should not be taken out of context, like when Allah says he's the all forgiving and merciful etc, it's for men to ponder and be amazed by Allah's mercy and try to make amends and improve, it's not meant for ppl to get a free license to sin.
The creator who created the intellect knows who is planning against his mercy, and he would naturally have the ultimate plan which would overpower all the other subplans of his creations.
However at the end of the Day, Allah forgives all sin except Polytheism in Islam considering the person was a believer with right beliefs and not a hypocrite.
@disamjisa But it is still the principle whether the man said it or it lays in a fiqh book, i.e., we do not excommunicate people out of their transgression of laws since Allaah still put them in the cauldron of Islaam out of His raHmah, wAllahu a3lam. The principle leads to a compassionate clergy, something which seems to be lacking in our midst these days except with some high-quality scholars.
@jim Tolkin excellent answer! or comment!
asalaam u aleikum sheikh, at the beginning of the video you mention that according to what you expound islam does not "excommunicate" brothers and sisters within our beloved deen, this is good to say because isuing takfir is for the ulema. yet it is notable that consummating a marriage is a form of ibada, and this being said shirk ul ahkbar is something which can take you out of the fold of islam. if islam prohibits profane and obscene acts just as you do not allow profanity in responses