Garmin Descent MK1: How it works (in a crazy dive spot)
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
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Here's everything you need to know about the new Garmin Descent MK1 dive watch. Or, alternatively, a bunch of really fun videos about the NEMO33 indoor dive facility. I walk through the watch and how a standard dive works (it includes gauge, single-gas, multi-gas, apnea/freediving modes, as well as the ability to plan a dive).
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i'd be sitting on the bottom of the reef playing with this thing if i got one lol.
That's why he especially notes that in "Dive Mode" it locks down. No extra apps, nothing except what is needed in diving mode. Just so you wouldn't miss when the watch tell you "time is up" or something else important to diving (I know nothing about diving).
This is what i have been waiting for... an all in one multi sport + dive watch. I will just have to see how this watch goes for a year before committing. But if i get this, I would get it as a backup to my perdix for tech dives.
"This is what i have been waiting for... an all in one multi sport + dive watch"
Me too :)
Honestly, I’m all for this but I think I’m gonna wait until they add in tank pressure integration.
I can confirm that after all this time from the release date I had no issues with this watch. It’s just AMAZING in every way! Should get more credit I think!
@@veryconfused2 still think that?
If anyone else was wondering, the reason it does not show the No Decompression Limit during the dive is because it's in Gauge mode. Great early video!
What, you are saying that I can use this Garmin to go climbing and diving as well? It could be a substitute for my Garmin Fenix 3 and my dive watch Suunto Zoop!
Things I'd like to see In the MK2 from a freediving perspective. Recovery time on the surface, should alert you in apnea mode when you have spent 220% longer than your last dive length at the surface WHILE in resting heart rate zone. With options to adjust the recovery time percentage and heartrate function.I'd also like to see other adjustable condition alerts like alert me if I'm still at or above 100ft and its been more than 50 seconds and make said alerts have customizable alert tones/viberations. I'd also LOVE to see a wrist based SPO 2 sensor that works in the water. Don't know if its been done before and I'm taking a huge guess while saying this but i think that could be amazing at preventing shallow water blackout. A larger screen, more tap controls (the double tap to scroll was smart! Add the option to other apps that aren't just diving! Hikers wear gloves to bro!
Great video. Thank you!
I've been waiting for something like this for a few years now and have been resisting the temptation to replace my old Suunto fully expecting that someone will come out with a real smart watch that's also a dive computer. This is so much more.
Sure the price point is steep, but when you consider the fact that I was ready to buy two devices, one for diving and another for everything else, it's a bargain.
I have another few months before my next diving vacation. So I'll do some more research, but as of right now , it's a clear front runner.
Did you ever got the watch?
another great idea from Garmin...Compared to other stuff it appears to be priced correctly.
I have the Titanium and I love it. Well done Garmin....
Can you make a review on the apnea mood or free diving ?thank you
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If it wasn't for the fact that i just bought a cheaper watch a year ago and that this one costs a grand in the normal configuration i'd be totally getting it. Maybe in a year or two when my current watch isn't holding quite up anymore.
DC, obviously you can use the Descent under water without any concerns of water entering inside the watch. I have a Fenix 3 and I have always been scared of using it while swimming or even in the shower. May I ask you (and I know my question is not related to this particularly video :P ), but could I also use the Fenix 3 inside a pool just like you are using the Descent ??
Daniel
Brazil
I have fenix 3 and once I've got problems because I've pushed buttons underwater in the sea.... Humidity went through and had to send the watch back, garmin has a very nice customer support.
My sister is a diver and wants an mk3 can you please review the mk3? Nobody has done reviews on mk3 yet.
Just missing wireless air integration and it will be perfect :/ maybe in the mk2?
Guillaume Becker we can only Hope. That’s the only thing holding me back from dropping the hammer.
Me too - want wireless air integration
Well you’re right, but how many times do we check our spg while diving? Maybe 3 times... so why pay an extra 200$ for air integration?
Hello Ray (I had to Google that),
I hope all is well.
I find your videos reviews very informative, and trust worthy. And because of that, I was wondering if I can trouble you and ask for a Garmin Descent G1 review?
I’m trying to weigh it agains the MK2, from my perspective, as an Ironman distance triathlete and a technical diver (With a main fully dedicated technical dive computer - Shearwater Perdix - but looking for the Garmin as a backup). And sporting a Forerunner 935 which meets all my triathlon training needs.
Keep up the good work. And thank you very much.
I have a Fenix 5 that I love and use extensively. The Descent MK1 looks great, since it's so similar. However the lack of air integration is a deal-breaker for me. Hopefully Garmin will consider a tank transmitter that complements the watch.
Jaybird214 , totally agree.
Especially for the price point they're aiming at. Even if they could develop one with ant+, as an add on for those who wish to buy it. Then a software update and you'd be set to go.
Ice just started to dive and was looking at the suunto dx. I currently wear a fenix 3hr as my daily watch and was thinking a Garmin dive watch of this caliber would be a good fit. Finding out there is no air integration has put me right off.
Jaybird214 same.
If only Suunto would up their game and release something similar to this!
Are you planning to review MK3i?
Very useful review. Smart comments
comment on an old video I know. are you going to review the descent mk2i? Do you know if that is a fenix6 or fenix7 base? Thanks
Thank you! Very interesting watch!
The main feature of this watch is the dive computer (even trimix multigas with up to 5 different deco mix ) but no info about that in your review...
Just to be sure... This watch can do absolutely eveything the 5X can do?
It can't possibly be this good 😆
What about the 16gb of internal storage the 5X has? What about the ability to install topographic maps? What about Live Track ?
Can it use the custom watch faces of the Fenix 5x (outside water). Does it have the breadcruming function for hiking?
Correct, everything. You'll likely see slight lag for new firmware updates, since the Descent goes through a longer QA process than the 5X does for safety reasons, but the rough plan is to keep them identical. Yes on breadcrumb, no problems there. Yes on Topo installs. And yes on live track.
DC Rainmaker I'm speechless... Thank God I found this video before buying the 5X for Christmas. As a regular skier and a diver this is like a dream device come true. Subscribing to your channel immediately.
No problem - happy to help. Enjoy!
DC Rainmaker .. last quick question. Does the creators of costume watch faces for the Fenix 5 series have to enable this device for use when the upload their watch faces to the Garmin connect iq or.. All the watch faces available for the 5 series will be compatible out the box? ( I actually care about the look since I plan to use it almost evey day)
How is battery compared to the Fenix 5x?
I agree that's perfect for people that love climbing and diving as well! Luciano Lacayo
Hi, is it possible to navigate to a previously visited dive spot in the water using the compass? Because I was only able to see turn-by-turn navigation.
Really interesting that Garmin has moved into this space with Suunto already having some great dive watches. At the end of the video I noticed it was a red colour screen, was this just the light or was it a setting?
Active JR Indeed, especially if you look at current Suunto pricing. And it’s just the light and colors underwater. Looks normal in real life.
Great video BTW, nice to see something different. I am going to my best to get one before a trip to Thailand diving in a few weeks
Most underwater cameras have a dive mode that looks red close to the surface. That's probably it.
In most cases it's a red filter you add on top of the lens to compensate for the loss of red light further down. Makes for a lot more vibrant colors.
@@JRsReviews have u bought it? Should we have it too?
With the new fenix 5 plus line coming out, do you think they will make an updated version of the Descent to include some of the features that the 5 plus offers (music storage, pulse ox)?
Is the charging port a issue?
I was about to press buy on the DEEPBLU COSMIQ+ GEN 5, but whent out from checkout and changed it out with the more expencive GARMIN DESCENT MK1. So did I do a good thing. Because of discount on the Garmin and not the cosmiq for black friday the price difference was not huge.
Deepblue Cosmiq+ was $606.79
Garmin MK1...........was $786.91 (original price with no discount was $1 215.67)
So the totall difference $180.12
Would you say the uppgrade was worth $180.12?
I recently read this In a website but I think is wrong can you please clarify this for us?
FENIX 5X VS DESCENT MK1
You mentioned that Descent doesn’t have quite the same amount of fitness/training features as the Fenix 5 tell me more! The following might sound like a lot but considering the number of diving features gained and the plethora of fitness features still available it doesn’t make an impact on how powerful this watch is. I’ve listed the specs below for a full breakdown of all features available.
The Descent Mk1 won’t come preloaded with profiles for Strength, training and cardio training. It also does not come with Cardio workouts, strength workouts or the automatic rep counting feature.
In regards to training and planning/analysis features the Descent won’t come with auto multisport activities or manual multisport activities.
For running features, the Descent Mk1 has almost all the same except Vertical oscillation and ratio (the degree of ‘bounce’ in your running motion and the cost-benefit ration with stride length). Ground contact time and balance (shows how much time, in the running motion, your foot is on the ground rather than in flight and lets you check your running symmetry) and Stride length. *All of these require the compatible accessory from Garmin.
Additionally, the Descent Mk1 does not feature the FTP (Functional Threshold Power) feature that is available with the fenix 5X for cycling.
What is this red-ish glow in the screen? I've seen it in other videos too.
If you make single dive mode does it still give you no decompression time?
DC...what tables do they use to set dive profiles?
Also...what about gauge calibration? Is this software driven or will it have to be sent it to be calibrated?
Will it take altitude into account for the dive plan?
According to Garmin, it uses the Bühlmann deco model, and it automatically adjusts for altitude dives.
It also has handy tech/nitrox functions like trimix support, deco lockout override, deep stops, a multi-gas planner, gas-switch depth notifications, PO2 tracking/warnings, and up to 5 deco mixes on a single dive.
It really does look like they're being very serious about entering the dive market.
Does it come with the safety stop feature?
are you going to review the mk2?
Can you make updates for the software and add wireless air transmitter integrated for this watch
Hi DC, have you tried the Dive IQ software on a Fenix 5s/5/5x? I was wondering if the software is comparable to a dive computer?
If it is, I would probably get it for my Fenix 5 as my backup computer :)
Great device but does not appear to be able to use the large Top maps the the 5x does. I have the UK 1:50k on my 5x but this will not install on the Descent.
Do you still need to buy maps for this watch?
Hello there,
I actually have the Fenix 3 HR and I´m using it for swimming polls session. Can you tell me if there is an app for diving(apnea) in the pool. It´s just a normal pool of 25 m long, 3 meters deep but the "pool swim" app for my Garmin dosn´t measure the distance, probably because I´m not using styles(butterfly, croll etc) I´m just crossing the pool for A-T underwater.
Best all and sorry for my bad english.
Remus
Can you make updates for the software and add wireless air transmitter integrated for this watch ⌚
Does this have a topomaps feature like the fenix models?
Diver and biker! I like your vlog even more! Now also skiing and your the (smart divice) expert for my favorit sports!
Fun tidbit: I'm a huge skier. Grew up ski racing. A tidbit of that: czcams.com/video/4Skoun_wXno/video.html
DC Rainmaker Greetings from Austria 😁 have to watch more old vlogs. Lama has connected me to your vlogs.
Can't use Tacx Flow (Red Wifli), next best is? Direto from Elite? Neo, ... are too expensive. Thx!
I'd go with Elite Direto - love it! Enjoy, and thanks for watching!
has Garmin mentioned anything about a Forerunner 235 successor?
how did you actually get this ? it is not yet on the market .
How does this compare to the rolex submariner?
Hugo Lopez the Garmin doesn’t have AI but I think the Rolex sub does. Lol
Does the dive mode automatically activate once you submerge underwater or you need to set to dive mode first then the timer will start once u reach 1.2m?
Follow.
Does the fenix 6x have the opportunity to show you the depth if you dive?
Nope
Does the software updates?
Hi, I have a question. I need a gps for scuba in open sea water... does MK1 work underwater and find objects (mark stations) as gps in land?
Check ariadna.tech
i wanna go there and dive
, where is this?
Belgium.
How does it compare in terms of functionality to the Sunto dive watches?
Also, is it a similar size to the 5x or bigger?
Same size as the Fenix 5X (same shell). From a Suunto standpoint, it's complex (assume comparison to DX and D6I. If you look at non-dive features first, then Garmin has a boatload more (GPS/sports/smartphone integration/etc...). That's easy. Then you get to dive features and both have the ability to download dives to their respective platforms (but Suunto requires computer, not just phone). Suunto supports 3 gas mixes at the D6i and 8 at the DX, Garmin is 6. But Suunto does support wireless air link on their highest end model, so you could monitor that accordingly in one place. Suunto also touts more advanced algorithms, but again, it's kinda tit for tat in some areas. Beyond that though - both units from a spec standpoint are fairly similar.
A literal deep dive into a fitness device. :D
Anyone know if this would work with any transmitters or if Garmin going to release one?
Not in the first one generation units they've said.
What - no air integration - at this price Oceanic, Suunto, Scubapro and Aqualung (and various others) all offer air integration. If you are serious about diving get a dedicated computer from a recognized dive equipment manufacturer. It's still a nice gimmick for those looking for the swiss army knife of fitness watches but I'll stick to my Oceanic dive computer.
Finally a heart rate monitor! Almost a perfect watch. With solar power and touch screen it would be perfect.
If you look closely it is obvious that the Descent Mk1 case is that of the Fenix 3HR, not the Fenix 5X. It is a Fenix 3 with the brain of a 5.
If you don’t want the air integration is this watch still relevant in 2023?
I hear/read nothing about air integration. If only I could link it to wireless sensor on my tank...
I thought garmin was sticking to the charger type on the fenix 5 type watches? I think I prefer the cradle tho, but I have the fenix 5...
Yeah, I can't remember if I get into it in the video as deep as the post. But essentially they went back to the Fenix 3 charger for this one because of concerns around over-pressure at 100m. The standard they test to for this watch required overpressure, beyond the 100m. Also required direct hits against hard options at depth to that piece. So essentially they felt more secure with the existing port there.
DC Rainmaker seems they should have stuck with the fenix 3 charging port for the fenix 5 also. My question then becomes is my fenix 5 REALLY capable of 100m as listed in the back of the watch??? Garmin has some explaining to do....
I suspect it is capable of 100m (Fenix 3). But my guess is that the overpressure piece per the standard is what does the trick. I can't seem to find any downloadable version of the EN13119 spec that doesn't cost $49 to download. But would be curious how much overpressure it takes.
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If you dont want to spend $1,499.99 for the premium version, i recommend buying fenix 5 sapphire with IQ Dive App (also uses known algorithms for diving) for twenty bugs... it works and is half as expensive.
Steffen H. Found some useful info ... The difference between them two is that Descent MK1 has:
-Depth Gauge added: To measure depth, obviously.
- Waterproofing standard differs: It’s waterproof to 100m, but in this case they’re specifically following EN 13319
- Added DLC bezel coating: The Fenix 5X doesn’t have this, and it hardens against scratches. On higher end model Titanium model.
- Charging port changed: In order to get the dive-focused 100m rating, they switched back to the Fenix 3 charging port
- Additional super-long strap included: It’ll fit around dry suits, or perhaps a very bulky wetsuit
The biggest change up above aside from the depth gauge is the adherence to EN13319. That’s more than just bringing it to 100m, but actually doing overpressure testing at the 100m depth, as well as things like protection against banging the screen and body against rocks and hard surfaces while at that depth. The obvious goal being that if you are cave diving it should be able to withstand a few whacks to the head.
Then there’s some software focused changes:
- Dive modes added: To record dives, obviously. More on this in a second.
- No Fly Watch Face: To tell you when it’s safe to fly
- HR Recording Works Underwater: Yup, they found that given diving is less about strokes, it records quite well
- No Connect IQ Apps allowed in Dive Mode: Simply for safety reasons. Apps allowed in all other modes.
- Different software development QC process for the dive aspects of the unit
What the defference between this one and the titanium please??
Aymene Megri the body is still made of titanium, however the higher price watch comes with a Titanium band as well.
That means evrything else is the same excpt the band ?
From what I was reading on the Garmin site and from another video, the actual frame of the watch is titanium and the higher priced watch comes with a titanium band as well.
buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/568181
Best Garmin jet! Unfortunately to expensive for me
I had a lot problems with Garmin Forerunner 235 Crashes, resets, screen freezes etc, I wouldn't trust Garmin for a diving Watch
What about gshock frogman bro?
We can supply the Oled for this Dive Computer, 1.2 inch transflective LCD www.panoxdisplay.com/html/products/transflective-62-1.html
a dive watch with no pressure gauge and transmitter. more expensive than sherawater. I wonder why anyone buys it
Descent best for spearfishing
Stil waiting for the review of the descent mk2...
Yeah. Currently a bit tricky for where I live to get to some good dive spots.
@@Dcrainmaker I know some great dive spots in The Netherlands if your interested. I am a Dutchie myself so. Let me know if you interested.
so hard to follow with the watch shaking around with your one handed control :/
great video
Did Garmin said anything about a tank pressure sensor for air integration? That will make it perfect.
It won't be in the MK1 unfortunately, but it sounds like they're targetting it for Gen2. Check out my post above for details on why.
It won't be in the MK1 unfortunately, but it sounds like they're targetting it for Gen2. Check out my post above for details on why.
Does this allow Spotify?
No, no music storage.
Does it have any attachment for giving tank pressure ?
Not in the MK1, though it sounds like it's on the table for future versions. I dive into the details of that a bit more in the linked post in the description.
Imagine a watch that somehow reads how much oxygen you have in your blood and it tells you how much longer you should stay down before coming back up
Oxygen??? Better read a book again ;)
I want it!! But need to save money...hm....maybe 7 years from now I can be a happy owner;) (over 1000USD)
Tell me about it. Diving ain't cheap.
they need to make one with ai and itll be all u need
I will take my citizens aqua land pro master watch over this
This is crap...Suunto is the king in diving computers
A friend of mine has this dive computer and tells me that it does have ai. It will connect to any transmitter you have.
Unfortunately, your friend is wrong. It’s the single biggest item people ask for, and there’s no hardware in the watch to enable air connectivity.