But wait, there's more! The darco is the lowest point of the slide so when water runs down the side of the slide out walls, the water drops end up clinging to (and wicking through) the darco. The water ends up absorbing into your slide out floor and, you guessed it, you will have a soft floor that needs to be replaced. I installed a slide out ski to prevent the water from getting to the darco. Instructions for the install are on my channel. You did a great job on showing how to install the rollers! Thanks.
We had our RV to the dealer with this same problem. They spent a lot of time and lubricant trying to fix. They didn’t seem to know what was causing the jumping. Been in business a long time so don’t understand why they wouldn’t have come across this problem. Thanks so much for this video. Saved us a lot of anxiety.
Thanks for the video! added 3 to each of my bigger slides on my 2017 Fuzion 417. I had to weld a 3/4" x 1/8" strip with 2 holes to the flange of the roller because there was a step right where the mounting holes were at. took about an hour for the first side, and 25 mins for the second slide.
I'm so thankful for your video. I have a 2020 Vibe 26BH with a Accu-slide and wear bar. It is only 5 months old and under warranty. Mine has a slightly different issue. The screws that hold the wear bar down are not fully screwed in and thus scraping the slideout floor bottom. Forest River has accepted responsibility for it, but I cannot find a RV shop that will do the repair work. Most say they won't repair it if I bought elsewhere. The rest say they don't have the equipment or experience. So I have a new busted up RV that I'm paying to sit in my driveway. I'm hopeful that this will take care of it. Otherwise I'm screwed.
Thank you so much. this is my exact issue with my slide outs. Now i know how to repair it. I have tried every lube out there and nothing is working. I might as well give this a shot. Awesome video.
Man, Chris that was an awesome video, great fix! You made it look like even I could do it!! Lol “single female “ have same problem but with different type. I wire brushed off the toothy rods on bottom applied dry lubricant. Now syncing the motors. So far so good. Oh and making sure she’s perfectly level before putting slides out. Thanks Judy
You convinced me to buy some of those Lippert rollers for our Montana HC and the 13 foot LR slide and the 7 foot kitchen slide, both of which appear to have failed slide bars. Now all I need is some good weather to do the install. Interesting that the lightest of the 4 slides on our 5er, the BR has factory installed rollers. I never thought I would miss the Lippert rack and pinion slides on our old 5er - but I do!
Just an update - I have the rollers but still waiting on better weather - maybe no rain tomorrow!. Most if not all of the jerking and strange noises can be removed by cable adjustment as I have done. Not a fun task but doable. BAL recommends ZEP 45 lube on the wear bar. Too expensive at 27-29 bucks a can - if you can find it. I used a 7-8 buck commercail CRC PTFE based lube with virtually the same ingrediants and it works. I have 2 reasons to install rollers - first, the LR sags and no amount of cable adjustment will fix that wear bar failure droop. The second - I'm tired of adjusting cables and if this helps .........
mike just installed 2 rollers from e bay for 20 bucks and they work!!!! the slide is smooth like glass nice job huge help thank you soooo much buddy saved me
@@rickstills6716 i have a 2018 Keystone Sprinter fiver. 37' with four slides. my camper is only 1 month old and the largest 11 'slide was jerking violently all of a sudden. my slide is cable driven and has a slide wear bar. tried lubes and clean the underside. all negative results. ordered the rollers and installed 4 of them. ny my slide goes in and smoothly. Must do mod. i did the work with my friend and it was simple took less than 1 hr
Well done, Thanks! I followed your suggestions and installed my rollers today. With my slide all the way out I couldn't get much lift. I brought it in about an inch and was able to lift it enough to get the sawzall in there. I did 4 rollers in a kitchen slide that has the refrigerator and stove in it. It seemed to raise my slide out about 3/8" to 1/2". I sealed the gap with a piece of plastic garage door seal that worked perfectly.
Did you install one the whole length or just enough to cover each roller cutout? I'm worried it will fold in when pulling the slide in and catch on the roller and rip off.
Great video! Wanted to let people know that it's usually not a "failed" wear bar causing this. It's just simply friction causing it. After my dealer told me there is nothing they can do to fix it on my BRAND NEW camper I purchased from them, I fixed the issue on my 12 ft slide by buying 2 cans of Silicone Spray Lubricant, running the slide full out, spraying the underbelly of it in small areas at a time until it was wet (evaporates pretty quickly). The Silicone spray leaves a slippery film behind after evaporating. Did this 2 times and it fixed the problem. So far it's been about a year and has not done it again since.
Great video. I have Schwintex slides on my tt with the original roller system. After time the rollers will wear through or tear the material on the bottom of the slide. I started watching your video hoping you were going to address that problem. The only solution is to install some sort of wear strips for the rollers to run on. Can't wait to see your associated video games as this video it will be awesome.
Thanks Mike. I have the same problem with our large 15’ kitchen slide on our Keystone Cougar. The rollers arrived last week and I got the screws today. I also just ordered a new wiper strip to install after the rollers. Hopefully we get to it this week.
Love this idea.. and most likely will do myself.. but something I have been doing and so far has helped a lot.. is baby powder.. put it on a dry rag and wipe the bottom of your slide… lay it thick. After a few times it’s slick again. It’s annoying that you have to do something like this on campers that are so darn expensive…. 🤦♂️
I added 5 to my 11 ft slide. it works better but it did raise it a good half inch. So far no issues and hope it stays that way. I need to seal the wiper area at rollers. I'm worried it will get pulled in and catch on the rollers and rip it off.
Great fix ,I wish the RV industry had an oversight committee like the Automobile industry to eliminate or cut down the amount of blatant design screwups that the customers of RV's have to eat the cost for. The manufacturer should reimburse you for your material cost and $150 an hour that they charge us.
Good fix! Looks like your cable brackets need to be moved down so they pull straight in. I'm changing accuslide cables on my 2017 Laredo now, and all the videos mention that.
My slides are exactly the same as yours and did the same thing. I degreased the wear bar as good as I could with Totally Awesome, then sprayed the bottom of the slide with WD40 Specialist Dirt and Dust Resistant Dry Lube PTFE spray and let it dry. Ran the slide in and out and it works like new. The rollers would be a more permanent fix but mine are fixed now with the PTFE lube, I guess that I will monitor them for a while...
No sir. Thank you. This video clears up my understanding of why my Forest River Vibe is getting groves under the slideout. I thought there were rollers that are causing the problem. Now I know it is crappy design.
Good vid, thanks. My Travel Supreme needs bedroom slide rollers replaced. Unfortunately they are recessed about 5" in from outside edge. Getting them out is the problem. I may slide a flat bar in under the middle of the roller bracket and get a Sawzall to cut the screws then install the outside mount screws.The link didn't come up but Cass rv rollers will bring them up.Thumbs up
My 12 foot long kitchen slide is doing this and it bulges out the wall at the bottom on one side, I hope these rollors will stop it. Thanks for the info and link.
Nice vid, I was wondering where and what they call that power plug. My RV is wired for a second AC but it dont have one and I will not need one. The 50 AMP 35ft cord is a beast to load and unload. I would like to put a smaller 30 amp cord. But this adapter would work good as long as the AC is not needed. Thanks mike
I havent found such a video for this problem mine is having now also...THANKS... I would have liked to have seen the old wear bar condition wear. My wife just thinks its dirty.. I don't expect much debris getting into that area only from interior sweeping out to the exterior. 8 Rollers ordered every 3 ft recommended.. Hope the wear bar is standard. Seems they all come from the same MFGrs in Indiana to save them time and you money.. Mine only lasted 2 years and I was befuddled to figure out the problem.. Long screws of 3" often are used to go through the aluminum box channel to reach through it.. You are DE' MAN!!... Man hug!
I tackled my smaller slide today. It was successful. I noted the "wear bar" was extremely worn on the ends. Perhaps yours is also similar. I think Keystone likes to use these for some reason of economics. A shorter saw blade seem do do fine but i was ready with the longer ones.
Have to agree should be installed at factory I have seen a lot of trailers with this system and they just don’t seem to work well. Mine is going back to the dealership this week to get the slides adjusted and the rv is about a year old.
OK I put 5 of these on my 12 foot kitchen slide. It actually raised my slide up a good 1/2 inch. It smoother but it still kind of bucks but not the quick short bucking it did now its longer back and forth bucking. Its smoother overall but still not perfect. Also the gap now lets in cold air. I hate my life lol.
Pretty pathetic that you spend that much money on an rv and then you have to repair it. I think the rv industry is some of the biggest ripoffs in manufacturing. You did a great job. My slide hangs up on one side coming in so I have to either have someone on the corner pushing or I bring it in so far then reverse it a couple of inches then bring it in again. Keep doing that til it’s in all the way. Thank you for your video, your a good teacher.
Got as far as cutting the bottom wiper seal and there is no slide bar as shown.I installed roller but at that point realized that there were already rollers in place behind the wiper seals right next to my install. I suggest checking before cutting. I have a 2018 Grand Design Reflections 315 RLTS.
I have the same issue with my larger slide out which is my kitchen slide. My fifth wheel is a 2018 Keystone sprinter with 4 slides. I just bought it a month ago and the slide is jerking and skipping when coming in/out. The dealers don't have any answers but to schedule an apt . We all know what its like to bring your rv to the dealer. LOL it will be their for the hole camping season. The Rollers make sense. The dealers all tell me that the traditional wear bar setup is constantly an issue . I have ordered 5 rollers I sure hope they fix the issue. The only thing I see is that by cutting out the wiper seal and wear bar this leaves a gap for debris and other elements to enter the coach
You can buy additional wiper seal material and install it over the gaps to restore the seal. I would provide more detail be we have yet to do this step to our own trailer. We haven't noticed the missing sections of wiper to be much of an issue. Though it would be better to seal it back up I'm sure.
I purchased this to cover the holes made after cutting the wear bar; RecPro RV Slide Out Replacement Seal | RV Slide Out Replacement Wiper Seal | 3" Wiper w/Adhesive | Sold by The Foot $2.39 a foot bought on Amazon or go to RecPro.com to get it.
You mentioned you talked/worked with a technician... what company did they work for? How did you get a hold of them? I’m seeing the same issue with my Keystone Fuzion 2017 (371). Keystone customer service was no help... kept saying to take it to a dealer.
Thank you for putting out this video. I have a 2018 Voltage 3005 with a sofa slide that is having the same problem. I will definitely be doing this fix. Can you provide a link to where I can purchase the rollers. And possibly a part number. Again thanks so much. Your a genius !
@@MikeHooley I have a 2018 3605 that is ripping the wear bars out! The kitchen slide has ripped half of the wear bar completely loose from the retaining screws. I will be raising the slide and installing the rollers but I will call LIPPERT and give them an ear full! Thanks for your video and the link for the parts. awesome
I have installed 4 rollers on my Kitchen slide, 5 rollers on my sofa slide, purchased some 3 inch weatherstriping to cover the holes for the rollers. Now I have to install the plastic Slide ski's and some flat aluminum plates to protect the Darco and I'm done. With the plates I think I wont have to replace the 8 inch piece of water damaged kitchen slide floor.
Bed on back fell out of tracks and now I can’t figure out how to put it back on tracks. There is this nasty little box shaped metal thing that won’t let me slide it back in. So I brought the bed platform inside and tried tracking it that way but there are two metal stops preventing that. No idea how to get it back on tracks now, any thoughts?
We just bought a Palomino HS1902 and my slider binds going out and coming back in, causing it twist so that either front or rear lags far behind. Will the rollers help this, or do I have a different problem? Help, please, Anyone? I really do appreciate your sharing this video.
Thanks a lot for this vid. I'm having the same issue with a rack and pinion slide. Did the new rollers raise the slide up when it's in its fully out position? Thanks again!
Mike, Hello and Thank You for this detailed post! I have not been able to acquire the level of assistance from Norco/BAL that you were able, but the height of the wear bar of the 12' slide box in my 2017 Keystone Bullet 272bhs is not as tall as the sections that you had removed from your Voltage. If I measure the stack up including the 0.20" to remove the carpet below the J-36 Roller Assemblies, the slide would still be approx. 0.30" above the current wear bars. As you appear to have excellent mechanical skills, in your opinion, if I were to remove the nylon rolls from the roller assembly, do you think that I could turn them down a little in a lathe? Additionally, as you had published this information last year, have you seen any additional wearing of the darco cloth? Any additional details or feed-back would be greatly appreciated! All the Best!
I think you would be able to lathe the rollers down a little, though I am no expert on the matter. We haven't seen any additional wear to the darco from the rollers. The wear bar was causing far more damage.
hope ya dont mind me responding to your post, as far as the darci cloth getting warn, I seen a video where a guy installed i think it was 1/8” stainless steal over the darco cloth, so the rollers slid on that, the stainless was like 6” wide, and the length of the slide. good day
Ok I thought this was a good idea . After replacing 2 gearbox’s I decided to check out installing rollers . Problem is mine already has rollers. 4 on the appliance slide 8’ & only 2 on living room slide . Living room side snagged in the middle causing floor damage. Repaired with aluminum flashing. The system has no safe guards ( prox/ limit switch) to avoid gearbox failure. The manual override is a cruel joke as one you can’t reach and the fact that the gearbox needs to be good for this to work.
Word of advice. It has compromised the plastic wrap on the bottom of the slideout. No water can get in while driving down the road. Not sure why the yahoos let the plastic wrap bare the weight of the slideout. My floor was rotten around the ends. Also the screws that they secured the floor, went right through the plastic wrap. It was destin for failure when it rolled off the assembly line. Thanks Keystone. Why aren't there recalls on RVs like automobiles?
You're not supposed to cut the wear bar, only the outer flap to make room for the roller. The rollers assist the wear bar. They are not to replace a section of the wear bar.
if your concerned about tearing the darco material you can just install strips thin gauge stainless the width of the roller this will protect the darco
WOW, this is great. Mine has been adjusted 4 times by the dealer and never fixed it. Now my Darco is ripping into the wood and need to do something to fix it and now i know how to. Did you end up adding a new wiper once you cut it out, are you able to let me know which wiper if you did?
You know we haven't added any new wiper to the outside of the rollers yet. But you can hear wind coming through, so we will add something when we get a minute.
i did the roller mod and addes a 3" wiper seal from amazon for only 2.95 a strip RecPro 4.4 out of 5 stars 19Reviews RecPro RV Slide Out Replacement Seal | RV Slide Out Replacement Wiper Seal | 3" Wiper w/Adhesive | Sold by The Foot
People say that you should not have a fridge in the slide , for the companies that make this kind have messed up the air going in for the compressor to keep cool is so wrong. have u found this problem?
@@rickstills6716 We jacked it up about 2-3 inches. The top of the slide will hit the top of the trailer opening so just be careful you don't keep going after the top of the slide hits the ceiling
Can you tell me the roller bracket part number and where to get them, also the length of the long slideout you added them to mine is 147 1/2 inches and the spacing you did for them thank you
Hi mike love the video and the great detail that you have provided, I have a 2014 sprinter and my main slide is jumping going in and out, I noticed that you mention that the tech you spoke with said that the roller shouldn't be more then an 1/8th of an inch higher then the wear bar bar , so I started calling around and keystone tells me that the wear bar on my rig is 148" long and only 3/8" high , that isnt very high and i cant find any rollers on lipperts web site that small , could you post the measurements of your sections that you cut out , i would thing that they have to be higher then 3/8 " in order for the j36 roller to work , thank you Dan
Hey Ya'll wanted to share Our Slide Out wouldn't work, Hydraulic level good, checked the voltage 0, replaced the Relays with Golf Cart Relays still 0, Fuses OK, son-in-law traced to an Auto Reset Circuit breaker mounted under hood, sure enough was stuck Open. Replaced about $6 on line, installed and works Fine. Hope this helps someone.
I think you are showing a fix that 100% of the slide out owners will need. Thank you.
Another of a long list of "fixes" that must be done to make our RV's usable and reliable. Nice video Mike.
Hey!’ I’ve got an idea! How about the manufacturer install these rollers at the factory- IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THAT was an AWESOME informational video! Thanx so much for doing it! Lot's of us RV'ers are in your debt, good sir!👍🏾
But wait, there's more! The darco is the lowest point of the slide so when water runs down the side of the slide out walls, the water drops end up clinging to (and wicking through) the darco. The water ends up absorbing into your slide out floor and, you guessed it, you will have a soft floor that needs to be replaced. I installed a slide out ski to prevent the water from getting to the darco. Instructions for the install are on my channel.
You did a great job on showing how to install the rollers! Thanks.
awesome vid! thanks for taking the time to share this! all these little issues with rv'ing are so much simpler then they look like at first.
We had our RV to the dealer with this same problem. They spent a lot of time and lubricant trying to fix. They didn’t seem to know what was causing the jumping. Been in business a long time so don’t understand why they wouldn’t have come across this problem. Thanks so much for this video. Saved us a lot of anxiety.
Thanks for the video! added 3 to each of my bigger slides on my 2017 Fuzion 417. I had to weld a 3/4" x 1/8" strip with 2 holes to the flange of the roller because there was a step right where the mounting holes were at. took about an hour for the first side, and 25 mins for the second slide.
I'm so thankful for your video. I have a 2020 Vibe 26BH with a Accu-slide and wear bar. It is only 5 months old and under warranty. Mine has a slightly different issue. The screws that hold the wear bar down are not fully screwed in and thus scraping the slideout floor bottom. Forest River has accepted responsibility for it, but I cannot find a RV shop that will do the repair work. Most say they won't repair it if I bought elsewhere. The rest say they don't have the equipment or experience. So I have a new busted up RV that I'm paying to sit in my driveway. I'm hopeful that this will take care of it. Otherwise I'm screwed.
Thanks for the video was very helpful. I appreciate you taking the time to doing it, and putting it out there for us. Happy camping Sir. 👍
Big thanks for sharing that. This sort of help Mike is what makes CZcams great.
Thank you so much. this is my exact issue with my slide outs. Now i know how to repair it. I have tried every lube out there and nothing is working. I might as well give this a shot. Awesome video.
Thanks Man ! I appreciate your research and your time to share a fix to this. Well done
Man, Chris that was an awesome video, great fix! You made it look like even I could do it!! Lol “single female “ have same problem but with different type. I wire brushed off the toothy rods on bottom applied dry lubricant. Now syncing the motors. So far so good. Oh and making sure she’s perfectly level before putting slides out. Thanks Judy
Thank you for the very useful and informative video of this process, I have a somewhat similiar problem with one of our slide outs.
Great Video on How to! Thanks for taking the time to record and share this.
You convinced me to buy some of those Lippert rollers for our Montana HC and the 13 foot LR slide and the 7 foot kitchen slide, both of which appear to have failed slide bars. Now all I need is some good weather to do the install. Interesting that the lightest of the 4 slides on our 5er, the BR has factory installed rollers. I never thought I would miss the Lippert rack and pinion slides on our old 5er - but I do!
Just an update - I have the rollers but still waiting on better weather - maybe no rain tomorrow!.
Most if not all of the jerking and strange noises can be removed by cable adjustment as I have done. Not a fun task but doable. BAL recommends ZEP 45 lube on the wear bar. Too expensive at 27-29 bucks a can - if you can find it. I used a 7-8 buck commercail CRC PTFE based lube with virtually the same ingrediants and it works. I have 2 reasons to install rollers - first, the LR sags and no amount of cable adjustment will fix that wear bar failure droop. The second - I'm tired of adjusting cables and if this helps .........
Just made this mod to my Voltage 3705. Working great but is squeaky. No more jerking. Happy camper.
Nice job. You are a brave man and a good technician.
mike just installed 2 rollers from e bay for 20 bucks and they work!!!! the slide is smooth like glass nice job huge help thank you soooo much buddy saved me
What type of rig do you have? Did the slide only have a rub bar? Did you do it yourself? Thx.
@@rickstills6716 i have a 2018 Keystone Sprinter fiver. 37' with four slides. my camper is only 1 month old and the largest 11 'slide was jerking violently all of a sudden. my slide is cable driven and has a slide wear bar. tried lubes and clean the underside. all negative results. ordered the rollers and installed 4 of them. ny my slide goes in and smoothly. Must do mod. i did the work with my friend and it was simple took less than 1 hr
@@heretodaygone2morrowrving231 Awesome!!! Thx!!!
Well done, Thanks! I followed your suggestions and installed my rollers today. With my slide all the way out I couldn't get much lift. I brought it in about an inch and was able to lift it enough to get the sawzall in there. I did 4 rollers in a kitchen slide that has the refrigerator and stove in it. It seemed to raise my slide out about 3/8" to 1/2". I sealed the gap with a piece of plastic garage door seal that worked perfectly.
Did you install one the whole length or just enough to cover each roller cutout? I'm worried it will fold in when pulling the slide in and catch on the roller and rip off.
Great video! Wanted to let people know that it's usually not a "failed" wear bar causing this. It's just simply friction causing it. After my dealer told me there is nothing they can do to fix it on my BRAND NEW camper I purchased from them, I fixed the issue on my 12 ft slide by buying 2 cans of Silicone Spray Lubricant, running the slide full out, spraying the underbelly of it in small areas at a time until it was wet (evaporates pretty quickly). The Silicone spray leaves a slippery film behind after evaporating. Did this 2 times and it fixed the problem. So far it's been about a year and has not done it again since.
I used teflon spray in a can.
Sprayed the under side very good
5 Rollers... A man after my own heart!
Awesome fix, thank you for your time and effort.
Thanks for sharing, I just ordered 3 rollers for mine.
Thanks, Mike. Great fix.
Thank you so much for posting this video, it is exactly what I needed!
Thorough and informative video. Well done.
Great video. I have Schwintex slides on my tt with the original roller system. After time the rollers will wear through or tear the material on the bottom of the slide. I started watching your video hoping you were going to address that problem. The only solution is to install some sort of wear strips for the rollers to run on. Can't wait to see your associated video games as this video it will be awesome.
Thanks Mike. I have the same problem with our large 15’ kitchen slide on our Keystone Cougar. The rollers arrived last week and I got the screws today. I also just ordered a new wiper strip to install after the rollers. Hopefully we get to it this week.
Can you give me the information on where you ordered them from. Thank you
@@markgalentine6724 link is in the video description
Great video, helped me see what i need to do for mine, Thanks Mike
Thanks so much I have been looking for this repair and you did it! Well done sir thanks again for your help!
Great help with a nagging problem. Thanks
Showing my husband this video! Thank you!
But Karol it wasn’t your idea to look for the fix!! Your just casually showing him, Right LOL
Love this idea.. and most likely will do myself.. but something I have been doing and so far has helped a lot.. is baby powder.. put it on a dry rag and wipe the bottom of your slide… lay it thick. After a few times it’s slick again. It’s annoying that you have to do something like this on campers that are so darn expensive…. 🤦♂️
Great video. I did the mod and it works great. Thanks again.
I added 5 to my 11 ft slide. it works better but it did raise it a good half inch. So far no issues and hope it stays that way. I need to seal the wiper area at rollers. I'm worried it will get pulled in and catch on the rollers and rip it off.
Thanks for sharing, Im doing this modification to my Montana
Great fix ,I wish the RV industry had an oversight committee like the Automobile industry to eliminate or cut down the amount of blatant design screwups that the customers of RV's have to eat the cost for. The manufacturer should reimburse you for your material cost and $150 an hour that they charge us.
No joke!
Good fix! Looks like your cable brackets need to be moved down so they pull straight in. I'm changing accuslide cables on my 2017 Laredo now, and all the videos mention that.
My slides are exactly the same as yours and did the same thing. I degreased the wear bar as good as I could with Totally Awesome, then sprayed the bottom of the slide with WD40 Specialist Dirt and Dust Resistant Dry Lube PTFE spray and let it dry. Ran the slide in and out and it works like new. The rollers would be a more permanent fix but mine are fixed now with the PTFE lube, I guess that I will monitor them for a while...
You know why RV factories are always on a paved road? Because a dirt road would shake 'em up so bad, they'll fall apart before they get to the dealer.
Nice job. Great video.
No sir. Thank you. This video clears up my understanding of why my Forest River Vibe is getting groves under the slideout. I thought there were rollers that are causing the problem. Now I know it is crappy design.
Awesome Video Thanks for posting!
Thank you for sharing your video definitely helps out
Good vid, thanks. My Travel Supreme needs bedroom slide rollers replaced. Unfortunately they are recessed about 5" in from outside edge. Getting them out is the problem. I may slide a flat bar in under the middle of the roller bracket and get a Sawzall to cut the screws then install the outside mount screws.The link didn't come up but Cass rv rollers will bring them up.Thumbs up
My 12 foot long kitchen slide is doing this and it bulges out the wall at the bottom on one side, I hope these rollors will stop it. Thanks for the info and link.
Nice vid, I was wondering where and what they call that power plug. My RV is wired for a second AC but it dont have one and I will not need one. The 50 AMP 35ft cord is a beast to load and unload. I would like to put a smaller 30 amp cord. But this adapter would work good as long as the AC is not needed. Thanks mike
Great instruction!!!!
I havent found such a video for this problem mine is having now also...THANKS... I would have liked to have seen the old wear bar condition wear. My wife just thinks its dirty.. I don't expect much debris getting into that area only from interior sweeping out to the exterior. 8 Rollers ordered every 3 ft recommended.. Hope the wear bar is standard. Seems they all come from the same MFGrs in Indiana to save them time and you money.. Mine only lasted 2 years and I was befuddled to figure out the problem.. Long screws of 3" often are used to go through the aluminum box channel to reach through it.. You are DE' MAN!!... Man hug!
I think once this bucking, jumping, jerking starts it may make itself worse from the action..
I tackled my smaller slide today. It was successful. I noted the "wear bar" was extremely worn on the ends. Perhaps yours is also similar. I think Keystone likes to use these for some reason of economics. A shorter saw blade seem do do fine but i was ready with the longer ones.
Hey Mike, Great video! How about an update on how it is doing 3.5 years later? Any issues or anything you would have done differently?
Have to agree should be installed at factory I have seen a lot of trailers with this system and they just don’t seem to work well. Mine is going back to the dealership this week to get the slides adjusted and the rv is about a year old.
Great job!
OK I put 5 of these on my 12 foot kitchen slide. It actually raised my slide up a good 1/2 inch. It smoother but it still kind of bucks but not the quick short bucking it did now its longer back and forth bucking. Its smoother overall but still not perfect. Also the gap now lets in cold air. I hate my life lol.
Perfect! I need to do this. I am having the same exact issue. Do you think there is any other way to do this without floor jacks?
what was the height of the wiper, I would like to measure mine to see if its the same.
Great vid my brother.
Great video. Thank you for the link to the rollers. Where can I purchase the replacement wiper material?
Nice Work
Good video, thanks.
Pretty pathetic that you spend that much money on an rv and then you have to repair it. I think the rv industry is some of the biggest ripoffs in manufacturing. You did a great job. My slide hangs up on one side coming in so I have to either have someone on the corner pushing or I bring it in so far then reverse it a couple of inches then bring it in again. Keep doing that til it’s in all the way. Thank you for your video, your a good teacher.
Got as far as cutting the bottom wiper seal and there is no slide bar as shown.I installed roller but at that point realized that there were already rollers in place behind the wiper seals right next to my install. I suggest checking before cutting. I have a 2018 Grand Design Reflections 315 RLTS.
thank you!
I have the same issue with my larger slide out which is my kitchen slide. My fifth wheel is a 2018 Keystone sprinter with 4 slides. I just bought it a month ago and the slide is jerking and skipping when coming in/out. The dealers don't have any answers but to schedule an apt . We all know what its like to bring your rv to the dealer. LOL it will be their for the hole camping season. The Rollers make sense. The dealers all tell me that the traditional wear bar setup is constantly an issue . I have ordered 5 rollers I sure hope they fix the issue. The only thing I see is that by cutting out the wiper seal and wear bar this leaves a gap for debris and other elements to enter the coach
You can buy additional wiper seal material and install it over the gaps to restore the seal. I would provide more detail be we have yet to do this step to our own trailer. We haven't noticed the missing sections of wiper to be much of an issue. Though it would be better to seal it back up I'm sure.
I purchased this to cover the holes made after cutting the wear bar; RecPro RV Slide Out Replacement Seal | RV Slide Out Replacement Wiper Seal | 3" Wiper w/Adhesive | Sold by The Foot $2.39 a foot bought on Amazon or go to RecPro.com to get it.
Thanks John I did buy the wiper seals from Amazon they work great
Love it!
Since the rollers are slightly taller than the wear bar, is it necessary to cut out a part of the wear bar?
What size rollers, are they 1/2 or 3/4.
Also what size was that friction bar
You mentioned you talked/worked with a technician... what company did they work for? How did you get a hold of them? I’m seeing the same issue with my Keystone Fuzion 2017 (371). Keystone customer service was no help... kept saying to take it to a dealer.
How many gearbox’s did you replace before you did this?
Thank you for putting out this video. I have a 2018 Voltage 3005 with a sofa slide that is having the same problem. I will definitely be doing this fix. Can you provide a link to where I can purchase the rollers. And possibly a part number. Again thanks so much. Your a genius !
Here is the link!
store.lci1.com/j-36-service-roller
Part number: 276288
@@MikeHooley I have a 2018 3605 that is ripping the wear bars out! The kitchen slide has ripped half of the wear bar completely loose from the retaining screws. I will be raising the slide and installing the rollers but I will call LIPPERT and give them an ear full! Thanks for your video and the link for the parts. awesome
I have installed 4 rollers on my Kitchen slide, 5 rollers on my sofa slide, purchased some 3 inch weatherstriping to cover the holes for the rollers. Now I have to install the plastic Slide ski's and some flat aluminum plates to protect the Darco and I'm done. With the plates I think I wont have to replace the 8 inch piece of water damaged kitchen slide floor.
Hey J Brenes, I also have a 2018 3005 with the sofa slide issue… did you install the rollers?
Cable driven slides always have tons of problems rack and pinion is the best
Thank you !!!
Bed on back fell out of tracks and now I can’t figure out how to put it back on tracks. There is this nasty little box shaped metal thing that won’t let me slide it back in. So I brought the bed platform inside and tried tracking it that way but there are two metal stops preventing that. No idea how to get it back on tracks now, any thoughts?
So so when you put in the roller it doesn't need to be even with the piece you cut out or does it have to stick above it
Can you put a link for where to buy rollers
This is about to fix my problem...you only used one in the kitchen? Thanks!
We just bought a Palomino HS1902 and my slider binds going out and coming back in, causing it twist so that either front or rear lags far behind. Will the rollers help this, or do I have a different problem? Help, please, Anyone? I really do appreciate your sharing this video.
It sounds to me like your cable system is out of adjustment. I wouldn't be able to tell you how to adjust it properly tho...
Thanks a lot for this vid. I'm having the same issue with a rack and pinion slide.
Did the new rollers raise the slide up when it's in its fully out position?
Thanks again!
Yes it does raise the slide slightly, about an 1/8 in, haven't had a problem with it yet
Love your title:)
Did you try lube or WD40 before adding the rollers?
Mike, Hello and Thank You for this detailed post!
I have not been able to acquire the level of assistance from Norco/BAL that you were able, but the height of the wear bar of the 12' slide box in my 2017 Keystone Bullet 272bhs is not as tall as the sections that you had removed from your Voltage. If I measure the stack up including the 0.20" to remove the carpet below the J-36 Roller Assemblies, the slide would still be approx. 0.30" above the current wear bars.
As you appear to have excellent mechanical skills, in your opinion, if I were to remove the nylon rolls from the roller assembly, do you think that I could turn them down a little in a lathe?
Additionally, as you had published this information last year, have you seen any additional wearing of the darco cloth?
Any additional details or feed-back would be greatly appreciated!
All the Best!
I think you would be able to lathe the rollers down a little, though I am no expert on the matter. We haven't seen any additional wear to the darco from the rollers. The wear bar was causing far more damage.
hope ya dont mind me responding to your post, as far as the darci cloth getting warn, I seen a video where a guy installed i think it was 1/8” stainless steal over the darco cloth, so the rollers slid on that, the stainless was like 6” wide, and the length of the slide. good day
Ok I thought this was a good idea . After replacing 2 gearbox’s I decided to check out installing rollers . Problem is mine already has rollers. 4 on the appliance slide 8’ & only 2 on living room slide . Living room side snagged in the middle causing floor damage. Repaired with aluminum flashing. The system has no safe guards ( prox/ limit switch) to avoid gearbox failure. The manual override is a cruel joke as one you can’t reach and the fact that the gearbox needs to be good for this to work.
Word of advice. It has compromised the plastic wrap on the bottom of the slideout. No water can get in while driving down the road. Not sure why the yahoos let the plastic wrap bare the weight of the slideout. My floor was rotten around the ends. Also the screws that they secured the floor, went right through the plastic wrap. It was destin for failure when it rolled off the assembly line. Thanks Keystone. Why aren't there recalls on RVs like automobiles?
How high did you set the rollers?
You're not supposed to cut the wear bar, only the outer flap to make room for the roller. The rollers assist the wear bar. They are not to replace a section of the wear bar.
Should put these in from the dam factory.
Do you by chance have a part number? I have pretty much the exact trailer and would like to do this.
If you click the link in the description it will take you right to the product page. PN: 276288
did u have to readjust cables after installing rollers since there was 1/8 inch difference?
We didn't adjust the cables. It hasn't given us a problem yet. But like we said in the video we aren't professionals..
It’s screws into to wood floor framing ? Or the metal beam ? I have a 17 v4005 I’m fixing todo this
Nvm I see it in the better angle of the video I commented too soon lol
Nice
Umm wth is a voltage? Jayco, Lance, Arctic fox, I have heard of.
How has the bottom been holding up i just did it to mine they work great but a few people are saying it tears up the bottom
so far so good. The wear bar had started to rough up the fabric on the bottom but it doesn't seem to be getting any worse.
@@MikeHooley thanks for the video i installed them on both of my slides works great.
if your concerned about tearing the darco material you can just install strips thin gauge stainless the width of the roller this will protect the darco
WOW, this is great. Mine has been adjusted 4 times by the dealer and never fixed it. Now my Darco is ripping into the wood and need to do something to fix it and now i know how to. Did you end up adding a new wiper once you cut it out, are you able to let me know which wiper if you did?
You know we haven't added any new wiper to the outside of the rollers yet. But you can hear wind coming through, so we will add something when we get a minute.
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I like that shirt brah!!
Great video.
The manufacturer should recall and fix it... sad
Agreed...
They never will. they been building all kinds of RVs with lower standards than China for ages... they know about it and won't do anything to fix.
People say that you should not have a fridge in the slide , for the companies that make this kind have messed up the air going in for the compressor to keep cool is so wrong. have u found this problem?
We haven't had any issues with the fridge so far
when installing the rollers do you have the slide extended all the way or just about half way?
You want it half to three quarters the way extended.
@@rickstills6716 We jacked it up about 2-3 inches. The top of the slide will hit the top of the trailer opening so just be careful you don't keep going after the top of the slide hits the ceiling
Can you tell me the roller bracket part number and where to get them, also the length of the long slideout you added them to mine is 147 1/2 inches and the spacing you did for them thank you
Hi mike love the video and the great detail that you have provided, I have a 2014 sprinter and my main slide is jumping going in and out, I noticed that you mention that the tech you spoke with said that the roller shouldn't be more then an 1/8th of an inch higher then the wear bar bar , so I started calling around and keystone tells me that the wear bar on my rig is 148" long and only 3/8" high , that isnt very high and i cant find any rollers on lipperts web site that small , could you post the measurements of your sections that you cut out , i would thing that they have to be higher then 3/8 " in order for the j36 roller to work , thank you Dan
Hey Ya'll wanted to share Our Slide Out wouldn't work, Hydraulic level good, checked the voltage 0, replaced the Relays with Golf Cart Relays still 0, Fuses OK, son-in-law traced to an Auto Reset Circuit breaker mounted under hood, sure enough was stuck Open. Replaced about $6 on line, installed and works Fine. Hope this helps someone.