Where Do Our Thoughts Come From?
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- In this video a woman questions Rupert about the origin of thoughts and the concept of freedom. Rupert suggests that thoughts arise in the self and that the self must be inherently free of thoughts. Additionally, he mentions how the experience of love and freedom are not individual experiences, but rather belong to a larger space of infinite consciousness. The discussion also touches on the nature of precepts in Buddhism and how they are inherent actions that come from oneself.
From the weekend in Amsterdam - September 2017. For access to the full recording see link: non-duality.rupertspira.com/wa...
Timestamps:
00:00 Where do our thoughts come from?
01:54 What is me and what am I?
03:35 Is there individual freedom or free will?
05:12 Why we are longing for freedom
06:06 Understanding the experience of love
08:06 Using our body minds to channel our freedom
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Here’s a thought that just came to me as I watched this ....... what a unique flower arrangement 😁
Nisargadatta Maharaj said we are not even the thinkers of our thoughts. If we were, we would know what our next thought would be!! In other words we don't think our thoughts, they come to us!!
Here is a clue.
Tell the mind, "ok let me have some thought now!". The mind will go blank for a moment.
Similarly if we tell someone "keep your mind free of thought and especially don't think of a monkey"
What does the mind do? It will give us a monkey thought. So it's like there is a flow of a thought vibration coming to us so long we are identified with the body mind world. As the thoughts are of the body mind world only.
maybe were tuning into a signal that matches our vibration. Like a radio
@@harrybellingham98 maybe there is no "I" and thoughts just arise, but for no one. ;)
Yes - as Byron Katie puts it, “We’re not the thinker. We’re being thought.”
Yes, Eckhardt tolle recommends asking: what will my next thought be?... And then there is simply nothing. Great practice!
If i tell you to think about a pink monkey, you will think about a pink monkey. So you have the capacity to think too. What is contemplation?
Thanks Rupert for your continued dedication
Wish I knew where my thoughts come from so I could send them back 😂
Great comment! The most I have laughed watching a Rupert Spira video!
Thoughts come from your stomach. What you eat make your thoughts. Focus on your stomach to control your thoughts.
Authentic Self Growth He sad they come from NO THING ness!We jest the space or the Tv we alou it to happen in us!
Lol 😆
i found you commenting on leo's videos
You are pure consciousness. For example think of an onion, one needs to peel the various layers, first layer is of the thoughts arising in your mind, second layer is of all the emotions you feel because of your thoughts, third layer is the sensations you feel in your body. Shine the light of awareness on who is this "I" who is receiving these thoughts? Then you will realise the real "I" is free of thoughts, emotions, etc. THE REAL I is the absolute truth. You are not your mind, your body, your emotions etc. You are just THAT. You are pure awareness. Use you mind only as a tool when required for work etc. THE other times just keep your tool box aka mind stored away. Be present in this moment
Also whenever someone has used their thoughts too much it's negative. Purity, love, joy, creativity arises from beyond the mind
We only have two choices to make- either to choose our mind, or to choose the so called pure awareness which we all have. The mind is a liar, it lies a lot. You don't have to buy that lie and analyse it . Let the lies go. The mind is good when it's required for tasks, otherwise it's not required. The thoughts are generated because you are tuning into a particular vibration just like you use a radio to tune into a FM station. Tune into only what you want.
Yooo
Tune using meditation I presume
How to attain enlightenment
Great comment. Thank you.
He gets better and better
That flower arrangement is transcendent.🥰
My freedom is in being able to recognize. and disassociate negative thinking from my I Am Presence, who and what I truly am. I recognize my thoughts not as "mine" but as old tapes programmed into my brain to program others with. Higher Consciousmess brings us all together as One. I see that now. Thank you!
I think J krishnamurti used to mean that we ourselves become thought and maybe that's why in feel ugly if I think ugly do you too? Btw you might know that mentalists do telepathy subjegution can you tell how exactly it works?
Beautiful dialogue .Thank you Rupert gentle delivery. So effective and well done
Thanks Mr. Spira. Very lucid explanation this is.
I Love your work Rupert, thank you so much for heart and wisdom.
Oo the flowers 💞💞🌿🌸🌺🌻🌼 what a beauty!
thankyou.. so appreciate . your eloquent and non emotive darshans.. thankyou
My owe myself to you Rupert ❤
A brilliant and quiet mind. thank you
Thank you. Much Love 🌻
I thank you, Rupert Sira, for all your talks. You have helped me with creating new teachings over here is America. Very respectfully, Tyler
Timing, thank you
Such a beautiful understanding. There is free will only it doesn't belong to a separate self... thank you, this makes things so much clearer to me.
gracias ¡¡¡¡
I've spent a lot of time listening about free will and its relation or lack thereof to thoughts It finally clicked into place, and I'm finally starting to get it!!! Thank you so much, Rupert! 😊😊😊😊😊
sorry my friend but ultimately there exists no free will. If your willing to accept an answer through logical means then check out some of Sam Harris's vids on free will.
I think J krishnamurti used to mean that we ourselves become thought and maybe that's why in feel ugly if I think ugly do you too? Btw you might know that mentalists do telepathy subjegution can you tell how exactly it works?
Love, truth and beauty 🧡
Thank you!
4:23 - 5:17 WOW that was something! Great Teacher! Thank you!
So, I understand now where the thoughts come from. They are a reaction to the freedom of the higher self in which all thoughts happend FOR the higher self.
They are a reaction of your information that you perceive through our sensory organs and they are stored in the brain. thoughts are stored information therefore we cannot see them. when we look at a computer's hard drive, we don't see the information stored there either
@@piccadelly9360 hi, is consciousness/awareness and the mind same?
So where does will power come from? Is there such a thing? What "wills" us to blow off thoughts that cloud over that loving meditative state of being?
Image and sound waves in our TV do not originate IN IT. The same might happen with thoughts. I don't know, but it is a possibility. I do not KNOW for sure that thoughts arise in me. If our gist and very essence is Consciousness then perhaps thoughts can arise within AND without. ALSO: what I am may not be LIMITED to my physical body. For example, our Aura is an extension of the body. Emotions are vibes that can travel (telepathy). Maybe we should not be so quick to reach conclusions about these very elusive phenomena.
Love and do whatever you want 🙏
💖Thank You🌺for sharing🙏
Each time I listen to one of these CZcams’s I feel I must be present with Rupert in an actual way for some time to contact the energy field there.
God you are a star and thank you
Ahhh, such a better video than Eckhart Tolles video of the same name.
Eckhart goes off on some weird tangent about collective mind and energy fields and yadda yadda yadda. Unverifiable hoopla.
At least Rupert goes in the practical direction of liberation without trying to sound pompous and New Agey.
That is, of course, until later when he talks about channeling consciousness and is probably then making a concession to the woman's point of view. He wouldn't want to imply that we could go shoot people now after realization. Not that we would necessarily want to.
Strange how we concede absolute freedom and then tell people how to use it. The organism continues to be an apparently genetically and environmentally conditioned organism after enlightenment. Viewed alternatively, all of our behaviors arise spontaneously out of "no-thing" anyway and it is realized there is no separation between subject and object and no doer and controller.
There is no telling what sort of behavior enlightenment will produce in any given organism. Or any sort of behavior before or after realization for that matter. But this generates fear of lack of control in an ordinary person and fear is not an expedient means to enlightenment lol.
The most we can say is that many of the most egotistical and neurotic behaviors tend to be attenuated in most of the individuals that realize no separation and lack of doership. But theoretically that doesn't disqualify any particular behaviors from spontaneously erupting from the individual that we would maybe consider "immoral" or "unsavory."
Further, morality itself is an attempt by the apparently separate individual to control his own future behavior and/or control the future behavior of society which is impossible and why it often creates the very neurotic behavior it attempts to monitor.
The great irony has always been that the person who realizes there has never been a doer often manifests more significantly moral behavior because he can accept that circumstances are outside of his control and only reacts spontaneously as the situation demands without neurosis. Otherwise he tends to be content.. And this contentedness is where our often kind, compassionate and generous behaviors often tend to manifest from.
But if you want an example of someone who realized no-doership and no separation but whose tendencies were more critical and even temperamental, check out UG Krishnamurti.
Compassion, kindness, etc. Arise in individuals who already have a sympathetic/empathetic nature before and after realization. Realizing the Absolute may or may not affect the Relative in any fashion.
After all, Consciousness as the Absolute IS already complete in itself regardless of the manifestation. The "evil", or "immoral" are just as much a play of consciousness as the "good" or "moral".
Thank you for your time.
Yeah, Agreed, he started talking about bubbles and waves, I was like, this is a horrible way of stating most collective consciousness dwells in the subconscious. I felt like giving him a slap on the back of the head and saying, spit it out man! Haha.
Dear friend, if you still interested to know more About Thoughts. Let me know. I could share it with you. Thanks
Enlightenment probably most often happens to people who are already compassionate and evolved. As you say, fear isn’t a great conductor to enlightenment and with fear often comes insecurity, greed, power, excessive desire, all things that take the mind away from an empty state, which is needed for enlightenment (from what I’ve studied).
I love Tolle as well, both these guys along with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, Mooji, Osho, Lawrence Edwards, among others are all on the same track that comes out of the non-dualistic path.
Steve C Nonsense to compare!Both are good in a different way!Im so thankful to both 🤷♀️🤷♀️😲😲🙏💜🙏
Hi, in the example of Mary and Jane, why does Mary limit herself to Jane? Is Mary imperfect and should she be perfect? What is Mary's purpose?
Rupert, thank you so much for these videos. I enjoy them very much and am a frequent watcher... I ask, could you please have louder audio in the future? It is difficult for me to hear sometimes even with the volume turned all the way up.
Wonderful thank you
Gracias ☺ 😊 💖
This why the universe continues, must continue, to expand. It is the constant expansion of consciousness, of thought, pushed by neutrinos. It cannot stop for a brief moment or it would freeze immediately.
Thoughts arise from mind body sensory perception be from inside or outside. It can arise from memories ( of present or past lives), preconceived views, emotions, depository consciousness, etc.
That was only part of what Augustine said. Leaving it there makes it sound more like Aleister Crowley.
“Love and do what you want” Augustine wrote in his Homilies on the First Epistle of John, but he also describes sin as misdirected or disordered love, and humanity as characterized by sin. The long explanation of how he differentiates between that which we ought to 'use', and that which we ought to 'enjoy' is very complex, but worth researching for anyone interested.
Far more clarity and wisdom than Eckhart.
Odd that he thinks we have free will. We do not choose the thoughts that enter our mind because that would require that thoughts come from thought. They do not. Now, when a thought arrives, we choose whether to dwell on that thought or not, however, that choice also comes from a thought that we did not bring about ourselves. All thoughts are served to us, even when we want to train our minds, that in itself is also a thought that we are not responsible for.
Where does he say we have free will ?
At about 8:30 min things become very confusing. Up until that point, it was very clearly established that thoughts arise from some unknown place and that we don't create them. Because of that, we are not capable of making choices ourselves because choices are made with thinking processes and we are not producing those thoughts that are involved in the choice. At about 8:30 min, Rupert says that it is our job to "channel" our thoughts so as to aim our life in the right direction or something to that effect. While, "channel" is another word for "choose" isn't it?? To me, there seems to be a lack of clarity at that point. It seems like Rupert is saying the exact opposite of what the first part of the video established. Your thoughts??
Yeah he kind of falls over himself there.
Truth is, what we've known simply from birth , we chose our thoughts.
If its an illusion, its one we will never have the abillity to just simply "expose" like rupert here says we will.
"I think, therefore i am"
Not "my brain thinks, therefore my brain is"
Thank you for the wonderful thoughts...what of the notion of the extended mind?
How do you deal with obsessive thoughts?
We're,In,#SelfAware, *Quantum Field* That IS *Infinite*CONNECTIVITY* 🔆
Boom!
I've been meditating a lot over the last two weeks and I'm getting random glimpses every couple days that seems like "I'm able to witness this life/body do everything on its own. Everything."
It seems really weird when I think about it but during those brief moments it's like... "Ok. This is ok. It's not that it seems like."
Is this the right path or am I undergoing some kind of mental psychosis?
I realize too that consciousness can't come "from" the brain as consciousness depends on senses which receive input from "outside"
He answered every question perfectly. Everyone of his video brings awakening of some sort
I think the only freedom - free of thought
we are not born with words, speaking, thoughts, etc. We learn to use words for things, feelings, expression. knowledge, discrimination. deviding things ands our selves, we can create whatever we want ..gods, fake stories, real stories,, its just something you learn. this mechanism of language , this system becomes entwined with our primairy feelings, emotions, sensations, sensory experiences and will make our lives very complicated. there comes our thoughts from. this system as a whole.
Is thought not the outcome of a desire? Surely quality of desire determines quality of thought.
hope they all figure it out...
I am wondering how you would discuss non-duality with someone at the beginning stages of dementia. I have a bi-polar disorder but find non-duality a wonderful tool to manage the emotional chaos of my mind and body. Is it possible to teach principles to one who whose brain capacity is diminished? I know that many people with dementia are very intelligent, or have been until the disease has progressed to a certain degree.
@Linda Ellis: This is a worthwhile question to explore. Here are some related observations: (1) someone who is not stabilized in self-awareness BEFORE dementia, seems unlikely to be so AFTER; (2) someone stabilized in self-awareness and has dementia can probably identify with it (and experience it) or dis-identify from it (and not experience it).
In my personal direct experience, not all thoughts "arise in me". Many times I perceive or experience thoughts coming "from somewhere else", coming "into me" or "through me" and are not "mine" or "of me". Thoughts have no dimensions of space or time, no charge, no mass, are immaterial, invisible and can come at any time and from anywhere. I believe the "force carrier" of thoughts, as photons are the force carrier of light or the graviton is the force carrier of gravity, is or are neutrinos. Constantly flowing into and through everything in the universe as mere, infinite potential.
You don't understand....atoms are thoughts. All of existence is a thought. Ponder on that.
The question I would ask would be: Why or how are thoughts triggered - why or how do thoughts ariseÉ
I know, the fool was too arrogant to admit he does not know. However, this is what I learned so far: they are mainly composed electrons and a few elements depending on the region and function at the time of occurence. The master switch or what you believe you command at when you think is directly associated with emotions so even though it feels like your in control and having free will, it is in fact a type of response to a stimulus, but the chain reaction and mechanism is so complex that we all feel as if we made the decision freely. Why are we all like this? Most probably a surviving mechanism to cope with stress and in this guys's case for the sake of his sanity.
If your thoughts ever become to invasive to handle just simple askself , WWND, What Would Norm Do.
When consciousness takes a form it appears in the form of SOUND . The sound takes form of the WORD . Thought is the word . Word became world . Every thing is a word . the world is a book or music .
Thoughts are like clouds they appears and dispears in the blue sky no matter how the thought it is negative or positive it can not affect the sky
do sociopath/ psychopaths experience Love ,if everyone feels love, per say?
This man is very close but still doesn’t understand. The creator, created life and all it’s experiences, just for u. Some get thoughts about wealth, Some get thoughts about killing, some get thoughts of being a doctor or a mother. No such thing as free will, nothings random, no such thing as aliens hell or heaven, no such thing as good or evil. Life has already been written and our thoughts bind it all together and forms consciousness.
There seems to be quite a lot of explaining what must be experienced for one's self through meditation. May all beings be liberated and experience pure awareness.
Where does anything come from. The World? Our perceptions? The sense of being a separate I in an objective world? Life?😂
Obviosly all comes out of the same source! And you are that, knowingly or unknowingly so, right now in this very moment and etrenaly for all times😘
I am beginning to feel as if thoughts are not in our brains, head, or up here (pointing at my forehead). I am beginning to truly feel, within my heart, that thoughts are universal, from the outside... as if we are narrating our lives. Is there actual proof that thoughts really come from within our brain, head, skull, or even any part of our body? Like does imagination or dialoguing thoughts have anything to do with the Human anatomy or body?
I feel the same way with imagination. When we visualize something; does this come from our mind, as well? or everything we imagine or say in our quote on quote "head" is just here already in this physical-realm?
Yes, it is actually scientificly prooven that thinking and imagining is strongly connected with activities within our brains. But this knowledge really changes nothing in our deeper understanding. Brain is the main machine of our bodyminds, however not the only source of experience 🙂
The mind is a reciever and viewer of thoughts.
All thoughts are downloads from God
Some thoughts come from outside as well as inside
I think J krishnamurti used to mean that we ourselves become thought and maybe that's why in feel ugly if I think ugly do you too? Btw you might know that mentalists do telepathy subjegution can you tell how exactly it works?
The beautiful world has good and bad in it. I have good and bad thoughts in it. I "experience" what I desire.
🙏🙏
We are also It. Noosphere
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You can send them back without knowing where they come from
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This guy is extremely smart, I'm shocked.
That first sigh 🤣🤣
In absolute freedom you could become apparently not free (conditioned or whatever)...
Thers non else beside him❤
I have thoughts that seem to come from another part of me.
Its so beautiful. Love the simplest hardest choice.
You are the ocean and waves are your thoughts, the sleeping ocean is asking where are the waves coming from. The sleeping ocean has identified itself as the waves. The wave is asking where did is come from. The sleeping ocean is called mind. It is about waking up! Each mind has the potential to wake up by journeying internally!
At one time I thought he was a Buddhist, but he doesn't talk about Dependent Origination, which says that thoughts arise from a craving of some sort. He may simply be using different language, of course. No criticism suggested or implied.
he foloows advaita vedanta
The word conscience is the worst enemy and induces to all kind of misunderstandings. Things happen without reason, and and for no reason too, there is a dialogue that accompanies them. There is only life or aliveness! But when we introduce the word consciousnes, there seems to be something else, and there is not! There is only life. No more conscience, no more misunderstandings!
No more conscience, no more life-all there is is consciousness.
!? I actually like what the word is pointing to. Always liked Gurdjieff's description of Conscience being the place where we feel 'nakedly', without a 'buffer'... but then eventually it is a place where one can feels all the emotions one's ever had Together... Conscience is just our Timeless Heart, and is one way Grace works through 'us people' sometimes, imo
Consciousness sort of ruminating this illusion.
So the answer is basically “ I don’t know” 🙊❤️
Ok so im totally sure of this after spending hours in an isolation tank and i can assure you rupert is.....wrong.
I felt thoughts arise and i, me, my consiousnes, whatever you want to call me totally can choose which thought to run with.
I can alter them, stop them, start them, whatever i want obviously.
I did this after his little trick of asking where the thought came from after id had it, or as i like to use ruperts term "the clown that takes the bow"
Im now 100% sure its this theory of his that is indeed the clown that takes the bow.
Why does a thought have to originate from within? Why couldn't our consciousness be like a radio, receiving thoughts that are somehow being transmitted to us, that we then process and make a decision on how to process . In my experience, many thoughts, particularly both bad thoughts and very inspirational thoughts, seem to come "to" me, not "from" me. We are dealing with an unknown, and while Rubert may have a very qualified opinion on the subject, it's still just an opinion, not a fact.
Not even scientist know when its simple GOD
Thoughts come from memory and memory comes from experience Jiddu Krishnamurti..
Thought comes from words, and labels we use to comprehend the external reality. with Meditation youll realize there’s no labels in life it just is. No good or bad thoughts, no past and future which is the loophole your thoughts may trap you in. At least that’s my opinion about it
So, where do thoughts come from? Can anyone please explain ? XD
From my understanding, all thoughts come from your mind. I'm assuming thoughts are created through genetic code to determine how to identify what it is perceiving, such as hearing a sound and if you noticed it, your mind identifies it or tries to, so the mind somehow is coded to know that it is experiencing something and just tries to identify what it is experiencing. Our perceptions are innate, and all of our experiences influence our thoughts to identify what something is, and from there trying to figure it out, ect. What this gentleman is speaking of is consciousness, being aware of your thoughts, realizing you are having thought and therefore realize you don't have to have any thought, deciding to experience or not, free will, and to come from a place of consciousness instead of just being how your mind is.
@@alwaysbeeurself Thank you!
🙏 I can link you to a video that covers it all & puts it all together like nothing Ive ever come across. There def is an exact answer to this & how to Be Consciously Aware of All the 18 Origins of Thoughts.
Whenever I hear the words, "I am the way, the truth, and the life," or "I am that I am" the first question that arises in me is, "Who am I?"
The Universe is a Mental Energy Field.
This Mental Field is the Mind of THAT that we call God.
This Field is Consciousness.
Consciousness is the "I Am "
The I Am is who is Dreaming all the content.
Consciousness use this Dream to Acknowledge Itself through all the characters.
Consciousness with content is the egoic mind state of THAT/God. Consciousness without content is Pure Consciousness.
There is only One Consciousness, but when It realizes Itself it is known as Pure Consciousness.
You are God Dreaming that is a having a human life, God but in an egoic state.
Enlightenment is when Consciousness Awakens Itself.
The importance to realize your true nature is because the egoic state is the one that believes in everything and it loves to experience all kinds of suffering and pain, although the ego is only an imaginary mental energy.
It's part of this movie-illusion, it's an illusion, our Reality but nonexistent.
I Am is God when It is Dreaming, it believes to be something, a rock, a plant, an insect, a human body or whatever.
When It realizes Itself it acknowledged the Absolute.
The Absolute doesn't know Itself.
That's why
Consciousness is Dreaming.
Consciousness becomes Conscious of Itself.
Pure Consciousness is Awareness.
I think J krishnamurti used to mean that we ourselves become thought and maybe that's why in feel ugly if I think ugly do you too? Btw you might know that mentalists do telepathy subjegution can you tell how exactly it works?
Every Spiritual Master who claims to have realized the ultimate truth as the Self should be asked, from where the whole manifested world or human mind comes from?
If he replies that everything is manifested out of the self then he should be asked if this is in fact and truly his experience?
If he says yes, he should be asked if he CONSCIOUSLY invented e.g. the frog or created the sun?
If he says yes, well.... And if he says "no I didn't CONSCIOUSLY invented nor created anything" then ask him what "higher force" did so, that he is not aware of? And why on earth he claims to have realized the ultimate truth?
Brilliant! The attutide of your comment though, looks as if the search for understanding was a competition. Meaning it's a bit harsh. But it's brilliant and it points to what only few of those who teach understanding ever try to highlight. It could be that they dont highlight it with a reason. To understand what for example Rupert is saying you dont need to kill the ego first. But then, you dont need to kill it at all. When someone trully understands what teacher is talking about your seeing it will disclose that truth to you which you so brilliantly expressed in a concise simple way. That recognition will simply disclose egoic viewpoint and render it redundant. A part of the whole "appearence". I hope i made sence at all
But yeah, cool, i liked your take on it and still enjoying it very much... i'm smiling all over my head haha
when you dream, and there is a frog in your dream, did you consciously created it? or a higher force created it for you? is it there at all? or is it just a mere illusion , projected and imagined there spontaneously by your mind, based on some previous imprints, until it feels it is really there?
Just because anything is created, does not mean that it is consciously created. It is possible to evolve a virtual reality like ours just by setting initial conditions, then pushing the start button and see what it evolves into. Eventually the sun and frogs may evolve out of it, but that is just a result of "dumb/unconscious" evolution, and not a result of being "designed" by a consciousness. Indeed, even God himself might not have consciously invented the frog or the sun, simply because it might not have been consciously invented. He might say though "Well, I created some initial conditions for the big bang, and then I pushed the "run" button, and then all of this came out of it. Pretty neat, huh? And now I can play these cool bodies, but don't ask me how they work."
Also, realizing the ultimate truth does not mean being omniscient. It just means realizing what you fundamentally are, and thus what is fundamentally the true essence of life. That doesn't mean that you then know what everybody had for breakfast this morning.
@@Erik-V you are right. And so is every spiritual master as well. And so is Bob. All your ideas about existence are. But reality cant care less. It's all taking place in the only thing there is...consciousness. pls dont let my reply upset you :))))) i just feel like rambling at the moment
if he - or she would care to try to respond to that, will probably answer that it is all One Reality
Mind vs mind conversation leads us nowhere…though mind seems to understand truth somehow there comes up another question. That’s why we(of course me included) continue watching Rupert’s talks…😂😂the fact we are watching these talks are the proof of us still wanting to be stuck in minds.
Truth is never found in words or conversation. The more we talk, the further we go away from it. Let’s not question any more but live it now then we may be found😊
So what are thoughts, the question is still open. Thoughts are information that we get through our sensory organs and they are stored in the brain. thoughts are stored information therefore we cannot see them. when we look at a computer's hard drive, we don't see the information stored there either
I think J krishnamurti used to mean that we ourselves become thought and maybe that's why in feel ugly if I think ugly do you too? Btw you might know that mentalists do telepathy subjegution can you tell how exactly it works?
Topos Uranus.I am also we.
I think physics is involved somehow in the answer to where do thoughts come from
A lotta words to say "I don't know ".
They come from the magical land of Boogedy- Boo. My interpretation is just as valid as yours.
Why does consciousness take the form of destructive, brutal thoughts?
What is thought
Why is thought
whats his age?
Jay Palnitkar I believe he's 58?
But that's if you're counting rotations around the sun as days/months/years etc with relation to a specific body. Really he's no age :)
Hahaha
our thoughts are not our own we have good thoughts from God and wrong thoughts from the devil so if you go against God these thoughts are from the devil. God will allow people to believe lies since they choose to not believe His truths not much anyone can do we have free will to choose which thoughts we want to believe. People only wake up and think when they have gone through enough pain to finally realize it is best to think on the truth in Love not the lies to destroy your life and bring you misery.
Jeremiah 29
11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
Isaiah 55
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
Psalm 10
4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.
This does not give me any comfort. I wish I'd stayed ignorant about the fact that we do not have free will.
Hahaha a fact? Of corse you have free will.
Who said it was a fact? Rupert? Let me ask you this, is rupert a scientist? A neurosurgeon? A psychologist? Philosopher? Genius even?
Because all of these qualified people ive mentioned since the beginning of time agree they have no idea how consciousness exists or works....and rupert (who btw was a pottery sculptor not so long ago) somehow suddenly does?
Your born with the knowlege that you think what you want.
Given there is some stirring thoughts here but thats how cults work my friend, they have to have a hook or in this case a paradox riddle/trick that your thoughts are somehow not yours to pull you in.
The only difference here is that he wants you to buy his seminars, not kill yourself.
Think evolution, if our free thoughts and will are mearly a trick of the mind and always have been, would we not be capeable to discover new things and ways of thinking?
We would never progress?
Wouldnt we still be primates in caves?
Or better yet, if our thoughts are just our brains stimulating these things due to the external stimuli around us, wouldnt everyones thoughts be exactly the same?
It DOESNT make sense at all, its a trick!
In fact the theory that our mind creates a pseudo reality of freedom seems more impossible and unlikely than any other theory than ANYTHING!
Rest easy friend and enjoy YOUR thoughts.
did not answer the question where thought come from.........
please read The Mind Illuminated by John Yates
The answer was “me” . Then comes the finding out what the “me” is :)
Rupert was perceptive enough to know that the answer to what she really wanted to know was not the same answer to that question.
Here is the answer to her question from Ekhart and after listening to it you can understand why Rupert didn't go there with her: bit.ly/2Hf5cO1
Apparently the brain synthesizes existing thoughts and produces a new thought out of the two. Thoughts come from the world I would say. Imprints coming 'from the outside'. Or you say the body is part of the world and was never extracted from the world. The body together with its thought never left the world. Then thoughts are a refined evolutionary form. Only consciousness would be out of the world.
The answer would be but another thought demanding answering the question. Watch your own thoughts instead, where they come from.
i have never experienced love so why are you assuming that it is a universal experience for all humans?
3mp4thy you have. Every single one of us has the experience of love to some degree.
that is just not true i have no memory of ever experiencing love unless it is a very illusive and unnoticeable feeling? i have felt fear and dependency when i was a kid but i doubt that was love because those were not good feelings.
3mp4thy so you telling me in your entire life you have never experienced love in any way shape or form? I heavily disagree with that.
Im telling you man i have never even hugged anyone before let alone had any feelings of relationship or affection. if you think im lying then ok but how you gonna disagree with my own personal experience and memory haha
Love doesn't have to be dramatic; it can be as simple as a fondness for a TV show or a person passing on the street. Love is the guiding inner resonance -- likely the reason that you ended up watching this video.
Gobbledygook! What happened to "I don't know"?