How to do a Waterstart? - Slalom Sail edition - Windsurfing Tips Ep. 3
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- You asked for a Slalom Sail Waterstart tutorial - I put on a GoPro, went out, filmed a few waterstarts and here we are!!!
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Best tip don't be lazy and go to the top of the mast 👍
Amazing!
thank you!
you are first professional who paid full attention to this very important subject (if not the most). Every surfing session is hundreds of fails into water, so good and productive waterstart can safe huge amount of time and energy. and despite on it there are only few videos how to do waterstart with big sails.
Glad it was helpful!
this is the best tutorial for waterstarting and recovering big riggs ive seen on youtube. great job much apreciated
Thank you
these pov vids with continuous reppitition are amazingly helpfull thx!
Happy to hear that!
I fully agree. It is pretty easy to follow the lesson this way.
That was a very clear and precise description of a waterstart and although I'm a long term and experienced Windsurfer both the improvements to the boards and sails have also made actions like that more simple to learn and practice confidently.
Excellent. Can’t wait to give it a try!
really great tutorial👍👍👍
Super detailed video, thanks for sharing!
Hope it helps :)
Great explanation Rytis... ! Many thanks...
Glad you enjoyed it Kurt!
Another tip is, when using slallm gear with bigger sails : always wear vests with 50N buoyance or more
Awesome bro!!!! Thanks
Great content. Really helpful.
Thanks!
Glad you like it mate :)
greatly explained, very detailed! thx
Cheers Andre
Nice and detail explanation. Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Perfect, thanks!
Great video Rytis. Thanks.
Ačiū
Very good !
thanks :)
Very very good video! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Thank u for the video!
Can you do a Video about how to go upwind the best way both in planning and non-planning conditions? Would be super nice🤙🏼
Wow really nice video for showing the thought process and details of waterstarting. A good intermediate video for people who understand the basics of the waterstart but need to improve it. That tip of getting the leech of the sail inbetween the footraps was great.
Sometimes I really need to fight my equipment to get it in position. I usually try to push through the mastfoot to get the board to rotate around the fin; but this can be extremely frustrating if the rail is digging in or the board doesn't want to turn. Will try putting the leach between the foot straps.
My personal tip - If you are going to fall and you have enough control to choose how you fall then:
1. Fall backwards (windward) to be in position to waterstart GOING THE SAME DIRECTION
2. Drop the sail forwards (leeward) to be in position to waterstart GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. If you can help it, it is better to drop the sail in front of you while falling backwards to avoid falling onto your rig.
I have even fallen backwards with my back foot still on the board to be ready to waterstart instantly when a gust comes.
I suggest to adjust the height of the boom at the mast so that the boom can sit on the boards tail.
When swimming then you just push the boards tail under the boom and the buoyance of the board pushes the sail out of the water. You only need to control the mast with one hand somit does not flip over
Great video, I picked up lots of tips. I also really liked the way you keep replaying the part of the video your describing - this really helped. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks
Great
thanks for the tip! off to Sorobon (Bonaire) tommorow after work!
hope it helps ;)
Exhausting 😊
Ah. You made a video I asked :) Thank you
Hope it is helpful?
@@RYTISJAS It is helpful :). flying the sail is such a pain.
Very helpful, especially with the point of view camera and repetition. Thank you
Glad it is useful Peter!
5:04 I think the upwind/ downwind control is the other way around
extending front hand and pulling should luff up the board into the wind
ok so Im learning to waterstart with limited equipment. I got an oldschool 330cm long 60wide slalom board with an arrows sail which is amazing to me considering the 2nd time i figured out how to stay on it and had an awesome ride in medium conditions yesterday. My problem is the board is very unstable and though I practised the movement in head and I think I know how to do it the end of the board sinks so either I put my foot on the side or at the end where the footstraps are it either flips over or the bottom sinks, respectively. The latter just raises the front and the whole board gets out of control. Shall I try to manage to put my foot right where the mastfoot is since theres the center of balance? or shall I move the mastfoot more to the front where the widest the board is? Its almost impossible to balance on it without the straps but the ones which i use to balance on the board are on the farther side so with waterstarting it seems impossible to reach. I tried to describe the situation, I hope you got it. Any help?
Ya, thats ok, i recently start a slalom discipline and i have some problem to recover my big and heavy rig from water in light Wind condition,..maybe have u some advise ?
Thanks!!!
Nice video if u r in strong wind u can waterstart to the foot straps and I found another way to water start small slalom sail u need the cams upside down and put the sail on the tail of the board so that the sail Is almost out of the water allredy ( I managed to do it with 6,4 and 5,7 I tried with 4 cam 7,8 it was really hard but maybe it can be done by bigger man)
Yes, putting the sail on the tail definitely helps to keep it slightly out of the water!
Can you give advice on this: if the conditions are marginal/ the wind is very light, how can you still go upwind and keep planing? So, in short, what's the best technique for planing upwind?
Thanks, keep up the good work!
Will do a video on this some time soon...
In the meantime assuming relatively flat water tips are:
Super 7 stance - straight legs, straight arms, tension in the core and glutes
Look and lean slightly forward
Shorter harness lines
Boom higher
Release outhaul
Longer, more powerful fin
Got any gear recommendations for a national team sailor who just started windsurfing? I've been using a 144L starboard carve, with a friends severne code red 7.5 and a 7.0 NP freeride. I can plane, and be in the straps pretty confidently. I still cannot jibe or confidently water start. I have as much access as I want to the 7.0 NP freeride and all of starboards carve boards from 111 - 144.
Actually the most fun board we have at the club is an ancient Go board which according to the others down there is a special version of the go where they one year just redesigned the race series a bit... it is by far the fastest I've tried of all the boards there. For light wind I just practice on mistral or kona...
What would make sense for me to buy myself? Are used sails a thing in surfing or a no go? How does monofilm age?
I'm 80kg but went up 7kg since january and expect to stay steady around 85-90kg. 195cm tall. I sail from Vedbæk, Denmark
Hi mate,
Well the most important question is what type of windsurfing do you want to do? Slalom racing? Freeride or perhaps freestyle?
@@RYTISJAS well I've been doing freeride I suppose at the moment as that is what my club has for gear. I don't think conditions where I am are great for slalom so I'll probably be in some freeride but as close to slalom as I can get with a bit of chop
Bic
I'm a beginner with cam sails, but I see that when wind is enough it's relatively easy to pull the sail out of the water. Do you have any advice when the wind is very low instead? I always struggle a lot to pull the sail up and keep it out of the water (I sink). Is it better to use the rope then?
Either use uphaul if the board is floaty enough or you have to swim to the very very top of the mast and lift it from there.
what is the diff between slalom and regular sail? size? im trying to learn waterstart on my 12' board 6.5m sail with fiberglass mast.
Slalom sails are heavier due to having 4 cams and they have a wide mast sleeve where water can come in. These things make waterstarts a lot harder
@@RYTISJAS THANKS!
Rytis (or anyone else), can you give any tip for waterstarting with very short board (230 cm)? I am new to these boards and I find it very akward waterstarting with it because of the distance you have to the Board. On old freeride boards the board is closer to your body and it is much easier. Thx for any advice 🤙
What part of the waterstart exactly are you struggling with? Lifting the sail above your head? Controlling the board position once you are holding the sail? Getting your foot up on the board? Standing up on the board once the foot is on?
Getting the foot up on the board
@@Dennis-bg7zo and what is happening then? you can't reach the board? you loose the sail while trying to get the leg up?
@RYTIS JAS Yes exactly! It is Hard for me to reach the Board with the back foot. In medium/strong winds I use the Power of the sail for assist but in light winds there is no/little help from the sail.
@@Dennis-bg7zo do you get the lower leech of the sail on the middle of the board (in between footstraps if you have two straps in the back) before trying to put on the foot?
Why do most people put the back foot on first? I always do the front foot first. I guess for most circumstances it doesn’t matter. Maybe for lighter winds?
It does - a lot!
Putting the back foot allows to you to use your hamstring more and pull the board under you.
Can you make a camera set up Guide
You mean GoPro or in general the camera gear I use for making these videos?
@@RYTISJAS most the gopro
Notice that you PWA riders mostly go without up hauls. Uphauling has become the new "water start" with the foil gear. Windsurfing Tips Video on how to uphaul with out an uphaul. Your mast grab technique would be appreciated.
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4 cam sail ? And I was waiting for 4 different angles from the 4 different cams...?! 😂 You can call me beginner
Hahaha - Brother - this got me cracking up too - maybee when I get 100k subscribers I can invest into 4 cams ;)
LOL Beginner ;-)
Who down votes this video?? Oh, wait, I know - probably people that sell up-haul ropes!!
It seemed to be a good video.. but the repetitions make it very difficult to watch. Shame...
Boooring !!
haha - I agree :) but I try to balance funny/entertaining vlogs with content that is useful and helping people to windsurf better and easier
@@RYTISJAS First of all , you shouldn't be talking like we were in church. & There are so many details In slalom technique .... Everybody on slalom gear knows how to waterstart
@@markocernic8659 i have my very first board which is a slalom one and i need to learn waterstart.