Phigolf WGT Edition Full Review
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2020
- In this video we complete a full review on the Phigolf WGT Edition and play 2 holes using both the integrated Phigolf software and 2 holes with the WGT integration as well. We also walk you though the strengths and weaknesses of both program as well as give you our feedback on which one we like better. With Phigolf's WGT Edition you get two products in one so we feel this is a must have for those who love golf but don't have the space for a dedicated golf simulator setup.
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Hi - I've been playing WGT for years, basically since it came out - Here are a few things you need to know - On the first hole you had an elevation change of 57 feet - you need to divide that by 3 feet to get corrected yardage - in this case you would subtract 19 yards from the hole distance - If it was uphill you would add the 19 yards. On the green when you are putting, one inch of elevation change roughly equals one foot on a putt. So the 11 inch drop would require you to subtract 11 feet from the total distance of the putt. Works the same in reverse. On the short shots around the green I have learned to use the "Punch" shot feature which keeps the ball lower and stops it faster. It also doesn't go as far when you hit it. WGT is like playing a real round of golf and as you play and score ranked rounds, you move up in rank which gives you better distance etc. Finally when you get up past level 35 you can get some better clubs and above 50 things really open up. Also there are apparel bonuses you can have depending on the clothes you wear. Also don't spend a lot of cash on balls. They wear out fast if you play a lot of rounds and if you lose a ball, it is gone even if you take a Mulligan. Like any game the more you play, the more you will get familiar with each course and know which holes to stay right or left on and how much wind will affect a shot. Phigolf game looks pretty good but it is simple. WGT is a very good simulator and you need to spend time learning but once you do, you will have a great time for years :-) Loved the video I am absolutely going to buy this before winter - Thanks again!
Great points for sure! I wil lbe testing Phigolf 2 on the channel soon as well. Keep everyone posted.
@@GarageGolf - I'm a level 90 Master and once you get up to level 54 grab the Hogan Irons, Calloway Rogue ST 1,3 & Hybrid, I use the Titleist VoKey wedges and the Odyssey Triple Track 2 Ball Putter - I rented clubs a lot to test and find the ones I liked the best and it's a great way to find the ones that suit your game. Using the basic WGT clubs is very tough in the beginning but you can work your way up from the fairly quickly. Glad you are going to keep working on the WGT end of things as it is really a very cool and accurate simulator once you learn it.
Thanks for the slope math
Thanks, great, realistic video for someone considering this product... which I was....until today. The settings were not as discouraging as the results and feedback on WGT as well as the overall putting for both games. Thanks, saved me some $$
As always great work. Can't wait for video using actual clubs.
On the lost balls you hit with the LW on the first WGT hole, you were swinging full on each. Try taking the club back only half way, or 3/4 depending on the distance.
This works for me every time.
Thanks for the review. I only have Phigolf, just started, but one thing i noticed too which seems to be the same for you was that my distance was a bit reduced in my irons moreso than my driver, but also I am hitting it much straighter in Phigolf than what i would expect. I intentionally tried to hit a big slice and did direct me a bit to the right, but not as much as what i would have expected. Much more accurate on PhiGolf than real life, haha. I hope my distances get more consistent on irons. My 6 iron went from my normal 160 yards all the way down to 120 yards on normal lies, so a bit confused. thanks for the videos.
New to you channel because I bought Phigolf myself and have been struggling a bit. What I have found is that it’s all in the swing speed. With the driver for instance I feel I have swing with a more vertical swing and put a lot of speed in my down swing to get the distance. And I always have a nasty draw or fade, like the swing speed sensor club always wants to go inside. Could be the way I swing too lol. All in all it a great product and well worth it if your looking for some more entertainment at home and a great way to keep up on your swing during the winter months.
Thanks for watching Joshua. Glad we could help with the video!
Out of this and the true golf home studio version that you've tried, which would you recommend?
Man I laughed so hard! You did a fantastic demo my man. I assume addressing the ball tells the computer where it is so if you hit right or left it will reflect on the flight path? by the way you have a new subscriber...It's stuff like this that reminds me why I don't watch tv anymore!
Thanks so much for subscribing. Glad you enjoyed the video! We try to do what we can to keep things interesting. I believe you are correct with the whole flight path thing. Thanks again for watching!
Fantastic review
Thanks for watching Paul. I appreciate it!
Great video! :D The screen looks really nice^^ im thinking of tyring the Trugolfs simular club that they have :)
Can't wait for next video, phigolf with real clubs...pls compare data between phigolf and skytrak
👍great vid. much appreciated
Thanks for watching Kyle!!
I like when you click the buddins. :) Thanks for the review, very helpful.
Lol. Thanks for watching!
I came to say the same thing lol. Good video for sure... but that stood out to me as well.
Brother PLEASE explain to me how you overlayed a capture of your program onto your screen while still allowing you to talk in front of it. I really want to know know how you edited this and what program you used so I can do that same thing for twitch. Please respond.
Hey Roland, it would great if you could do a quick follow up testing the phi golf with e6 connect now that’s it compatible with it. Thank you love the channel.
Thanks. I will look into it. I will also be doing an updated video on the new version of the Trugolf Mini Home Simulator as well shortly.
You can aim by rotating the club. Unrealistic right from the start. It simply needs a front sensor to get calc for the “setup position”. All the device is doing is understanding “swing speed” by some mercury positioning”. I’m all for a cheap sim, I can’t afford anything. But at least the IRL range gives me real data. Fun game for kids and families of golf though!
I understand. More meant for pleasure than realism I am sure but a cool little product none the less.
You’re not adjusting your stance, the driver should be further away of course that might help your flight distance and path direction. Stats would be more accurate as well, I think! Santa is bringing Philgolf in 2 weeks! Can’t wait. Thanks for the video. 🏌🏼♂️🎄
Hope you love it! Thanks for watching the video.
so when will i get to see some videos about the eye xo ;)? how much did it cost to uppgrade fomr your uneekor? and do you have the price for the eye xo ?? i want to get one haha:P
It plays more realistic (wgt) if you adjust the settings (hard) and turn off the avatar
Great point Yorstru. I will test that out.
hey just watched this and was wondering can you take the sensor off and put it on a real club and hit balls into a net or driving range for that matter and still play a round on your phone? Thanks in advance!!
You sure can. Check out this video we did on that topic! czcams.com/video/FhMjHuImFbg/video.html
good video, but analyzing your swing the game was pretty accurate. YOu were swinging fuller than you thought. You need to flop the short shots.
Very good points indeed!
Also if you ever played WTG on your phone without Phigolf. You would know to take wind more seriously. Wind has a HUGE affect in WTG. You also dont mention what device you are using to run WTG, it did say you lacked the correct amount of RAM so this could be why it's got such a big delay. I just ordered my Phigolf and will be using a Samsung S20 Ultra. WTG plays fine on it stand alone.
Seriously. 23 yards is short. You aren’t hitting it 23 yards with that swing. Should have been a tiny chip swing I don’t know what he was thinking.
When you do a review with real clubs I was wondering about moving the sensor between clubs. Is it easy and do you think it will hold up over time or maybe the hole in the grip might get loose.
Can you share options to use GC2 with GSPro, please? Specifically the ability to not be forced into SGT.
You can go directly through the GSPRO website to download the program and interface for GC2. Membership in SGT is certainly not required in order to play the courses, etc. Only if you want to play on tour, Fedex Cup points, stat tracking etc. Check out gsprogolf.com/
I have phigolf but I'm more interested in the accuracy of club face and path and how accurate or close to skytrack, flight scope or GC2
From my testing it is not very accurate. I feel as if it is mainly factoring in club speed but shots that were hit on Uneekor QED or Skytrak that registered a draw showed up as a fade on Phigolf for example. While it is not meant to replicate what higher end launch monitors can do it also comes at a price that is 1/8th that of those higher end units or even less.
@@GarageGolf in your video it shown -9 left (out to in) in the swing path how close was it to skytrack?? I know it definitely not as good as GC2 or flight scope or sky track. I feel the industry is keeping the higher end launch monitor's overpriced, it's a specialist market for golf coaching and fitting.
For the life of me I cannot hit anything except way right and short. Head speed way below normal. Even tried to intentionally pull hook it. Nothing will go left. Do I have the settings/gizmo set up correctly? Help!
No nothing special in the settings that I'm aware of. Perhaps a bad sensor? Sounds like it is misreading possibly. Have you reached out to Phigolf support on it yet? support@phigolfhelp.zendesk.com
Although we get some education out of the mistakes my feedback is to show the first one and tell us about the others. Over half an hour to loo long for the content. Still love your videos though and as always looking forward to the next one. 😊🏌️♀️
Great input. I always try to play the holes out in full to show viewers to total experience but I understand your point as well. Thanks for watching.
How did you mirror the phi golf software from your phone to your simulator. New to the channel here. Love your channel
For this one I used a program called Air Droid that allows you to mirror your image from an android device to a PC which I then used to screen record to show the image.
How do you use a mulligan on the phigolf app?
Hi,
I love your channel. I have Phigolf and WGT. I bought the subscription to the 20 courses on it. I can play them on my Android phone no problem. But they won't work with my Amazon Tablet or my 9th Gen Ipad. I can play Wolf Creek but when I go to the other courses it says I have to unlock them in Phigolf. I have tried everything as well as had my son try everything.
I don't know why. Can you help
Hi, thanks so much for watching and supporting the channel. It's been quite a bit since I've been able to get on and play Phigolf much with us now doing this full time as a job. I am not aware of the issue you are facing and not really sure why it would read them on one and not the other. Is there a license key applied to one device the other device possibly doesn't have saved on it? I would recommend trying to reach their tech support. You can try this link: phigolfstore.com/contactus/
Sorry I wish I could be more help but I don't really have any real ties to this company or even direct connections other than my review on this video.
Hello, I don't know if you still see these or not?
I've been playing about a year. The wife bought both the phigolf(!).
You showed me the problems I was having - are what I should be having. Well, you had the same problems anyway. I don't like the interface with wgt either. Great job on the video.
So with this video having some age on it. Would this (phigolf) home simulator be okay to continue to work on the swing during the cold Indiana winter when we can't get to the course and play?
I was think this might help with club head speed and maybe swing path? Maybe help develop the swing a little also?
Thanks
I still feel it is meant more for entertainment than anything else in all honesty. It is a fun experience and I think you will continue to enjoy it but not 100 percent sold it will improve your golf game. For those who only have space for a device such as this it cannot be beat and mimics the feel of real golf in my opinion.
I purchased this but after testing it out I returned it to Amazon. No matter how I tried all I could get was a outside to in club path usually -5 degrees or -9 degrees. I could not get my usual inside out path. Phigolf was no help
I’m going to give you a call tomorrow Monday
I noticed that your sender is seated well into you club mine is 1/4” short of seating any suggestions ?
The sensor should work its way in deeper, just twist while pushing into the butt end of the club. Some take a little bit more than others but overall it should mostly go in flush with a little elbow grease. Hope this helps!
I will keep trying ( I have given her all she’s got captain) yaya
I have phigolf and it's a blast to play. It can be glitchy sometimes tho. Flickering or slow I have to restart the app etc. Have you experienced some of these issues ?
For sure. Definitely has some quirks but hopefully a firmware update could fix some of that!
@@GarageGolf that would be nice. Also if you didn't already know you can download the app on firestick for free. It makes navigating through the menu , clubs etc a lot easier.
@@brianfoster4493 Very cool Brian. Didn't know that. Thanks for sharing with me and for watching the channel!
@@GarageGolf no problem. Good stuff. It makes life easier
Just came across this on amazon! Classss! Reckon I could use this on a 50” tv??
Of course, with the right adapter. Either USBC to HDMI or Lighting to HDMI depending on if you have an Galaxy or Iphone device.
@@GarageGolf smashing job, appreciate reply 👌
Is there many course?
@@darrylgreer68 Between Phigolf and WGT guessing around 20
Please can you advise if you can Play two player
Only on the Phigolf software but not on WGT.
Where do you place you phone in relation to your swing?
Just anywhere near by where you can see it. I had mine on a tripod stand right in front of me. It does not have to be near you to communicate with the sensor on the Phigolf.
I can't get WGT to recognize my club sensor. Says disabled. How do I get it to work?
Has it ever recognized it previously? Is it fully charged? Have you checked bluetooth settings on your IOS or Android device to see if it is listed there? Also make sure to have it in pairing mode properly for it to be read by your device and connect accordingly.
Can I just buy the Phigolf club and download WGT and play or do I need the Phigolf software too?
They are separate software so you can download one or the other or both. I found the Phigolf software to be more user friendly personally.
Would it allow you to shank or thin it?
No unfortunately not. It would have no way of telling how contact was made on the club face. I did in fact hit some thin and it registered a ball flight that would not have occurred. You can see that video here: czcams.com/video/FhMjHuImFbg/video.html
How do you change club selection?
Its as easy as just clicking the club icon on the bottom left hand side of the screen and changing it there if I remember correctly.
How about chipping and pitching on phi golf how is that 🤔
Very iffy to be honest. Chipping and putting can be very quirky at times until you figure it out
I'm not having the negative issues in why that you've experienced except the putting is to sensitive
Would this actually help my golf game? Does it account for over the top slices?
In all honesty if you are looking to use it as a true teaching device I would say that is not the primary purpose of this particular device. If you are looking from an entertainment standpoint and getting some feedback with real clubs it certainly is a fun and useful tool for that. The accuracy is not at the level of a Skytrak or something in a higher price point though so it is important you know what you are getting prior to purchasing for sure. For pure entertainment value it is certainly there and don't feel you would be disappointed. Just don't expect too much in regards to it as a teaching tool to help your golf game.
I play WGT on IPad and have spent $4 US in 170 days in a ‘Showdown’ if interested, look at my ‘reply for the scenario...
Point is, in less than 150 days, I reached Legend, which puts you on the back tees (hack, amateur- front, Pro, Tour Pro- 2nd tee back, Master, Tour Master 3rd tee back, Legend, Tour Legend, Champion, Tour Champions & Hall of famer’s with one playing, Young46 and 1 posthumous, so I’m not getting any longer holes so I can concentrate on putting not worry about getting to Legend, save for new clubs, as the one I have access to are not long enough to be competitive. I got to Legend at L90, just, first 9 hole game, made an eagle on a par 4 last to get average under what you need to get there. Now, that hole I can’t get to within 50 yards of the green lol. So I play free balls and just work on short game and practice timing and learning courses, so when I get to L96 I can get a longer Driver then L97 longer irons...all payed for with ads. Want as many as I can so I can play a good ball, which add distance and make the short game easier (but are as expensive as real balls if you buy them with credits you have bought (but they have offers all the time).
Showdown were I spent my only cash on the game ($4) goes like this;- 9 hole preliminary, 18 hole qualifying, 18 hole final, both with top 50 out of 100 get through. The Final, the better you place, the more you win. Was 2 off the lead with the money I spent on better balls and putt it on the edge of the 16th hole, so gimme par, 2 left with a short par 5 reachable in 2 so chance of winning but guaranteed top 3-5...unless your internet goes out. I forfeited the last 3 (play in 3 hole combinations, not all 19, or 9 at once, to play différant courses with différant winds and greenspeeds). Forfeits are automatic bogey for all 3 holes (even though I had a gimme for the 16th) so dropped to 20th, with lots of players a few shot behind so my countback (they separate same scores like regular golf, best. Scores on 18, then 17 etc...so I bogeyeyed the last 3 and was last of the 12th placed players. Turns out I needed Birdie, Eagle to win outright, but just the Eagle May have won it, depending on what the other guy scored on his 18th hole (holes aren’t played in same order, they are blocks of 3 holes each on different course and conditions, wind, green speed etc. So it’s unlikely the guy who ultimately won had an Eagle at his 18th as the chances of a reachable par 5 are slim as he was a Legend so very few reachable par 5’s. I was a Tour Master, so a tee foreword, anything from 24 to well over 100 yards farther (odd hole is the same). I got promoted to Legend within a week or 2.
when you miss a hit, does the game recognize it? hit behind or over the ball
No unfortunately it still recognizes the shot. Even with the sensor on a real club if you missed the ball completely I have still have the shot register. Mainly a source of entertainment I would say versus a real golf sim. Fun for what it is as long as you are not expecting too much in terms of realism.
Doesit show when you hit bad?
It will have hooks or slices but nothing liked topped shots or anything real bad.
Does every shot go straight?
No I had some bad ones in the video for sure.
I donno, you swung pretty hard on that putt. Looked like a 50 foot putt. Also depends on greens speed
What about slices and hooks ??
Not as great on reading those. More accurate with club head speed than anything else.
Will you bu me one of these?
Can we get more tags?
Not quite sure what you mean...what exactly are you asking?
58 foot below your tee box on the WGT. You would need to change club. 4 iron for you not enough.
Also, that was a near full backswing on the lob wedge.
Hopefully you saw that when you reviewed the video
My honest opinion:
I have one and I regret my purchase. It acts nothing like my iron's swing does on the course. It frustrates me to the point I don't even turn it on anymore.
Even when I take it outside with an actual club (use it on a pad with a mark to know if I am swinging straight) and it doesn't work.....
Driver works okay.... But one strike out of 3-5 isn't worth the price.
Seems kinda cool. However, it looks pretty much as accurate as playing Wii Sports Golf from about 15 years ago
The feedback and feel of the golf swing stick is actually pretty cool in all honesty. Feels like swinging a real club with feedback.
please compare skytrack with real club
Phigolf and Skytrak side by side will be next video.
Why is the first hole wrong? That's not the first hole of Pebble at all.
In real life it's a short par 4, dogleg right.
Great point. I guess it is a copyright thing and they didn't have permission to actually do "Pebble Beach" which is why they called it Pebble 72.
I mean considering you were fully swinging everything instead of 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 swings when needed. I think you were giving the software the hard time when it was your mechanics. You had a 60 degree and that can usually go like 75-90 yards even for an average golfer so even though you set up a 32yrd shot you still full swung instead of half swing or less as you would have needed. That’s my theory at least.
Also your swing is consistent to the left so I don’t think the software was the blame on the sand shot for instance. The ball was dug in, the sand closes your club naturally when a ball is dug in and below your feet. Etc. otherwise it was a decent review of the product minus your slight lack of understanding golf
Mechanics. Also pay attention to the wind. You were hitting middle fairway with a 15mph left against wind. Causing your slight hook to push more left.
Lol. Thanks for pointing out my lack of understanding golf mechanics!! If that isn't me in a nutshell I don't know what is. Have you had the opportunity to test this product? Would be curious to get your thoughts on the swing stick. Thanks for watching!
@@GarageGolf I have not. I am still researching reviews on products before I commit. Lol and no worry. I am not a scratch golfer either 😂.
@@YogiFlips Lol, number one rule here at Garage Golf is that I never have once claimed to be good at golf, only at explaining golf products and equipment.
@@GarageGolf I understand and I wasn’t critiquing you in the idea for you to stop. Just giving your mind some points to process when you are playing or reviewing products. Simulation golf isn’t like video game golf where you set up your shot and full swing on the joystick. Simulation is to simulate the real thing so if you have a club that goes say 80yrds and you’re 36yrds away (not including lie, wind, green speed, or whatever variables) you have to think of your swing arc as the % needed for that shot is all. Just opening your mindset to see these variables to put on a better review for Avid golfers and even beginners
@@YogiFlips Not sure if you saw my video using real golf clubs but this product is nowhere close in regards to real numbers when tested against a Skytrak or other launch monitor (not that it is intented to be so). Shots that were fades were actually draws and vice versa. Make sure to check that out!!
I think I will go to a real course. I lose less golf balls there than you did here, lol.
Lol. too funny!
You might want to take a proper putting stance
Lol. I'll keep that in mind!
Phi golf or trugolf?
I like them both but the PhiGolf sensor is meant for use with a real club as well which is a nice addition for sure.
For some reason all you review guys never show game play without the (laggy avatar) it's totally different experience without that
Why don’t you put the censor on a club and hit a actual golf ball with the censor and compare the simulator vs an actual golf balls flight
I did. I have another video on that on my channel as well.
Waffle until 3:00.
Mmmm waffles!!
@@GarageGolf Lol! =)
wgt is laggy you have no control over what club does what
cool video. I am goin got go ahead and give it a like. then I am going to go ahead and watch the video. then I will go ahead and comment. then I will go ahead and go ahead. alright then. go ahead and have a great day. go ahead.
Ok, go ahead and just do you my friend.
WGT looks janky and really doesnt work with Phigolf (Phigolf looks decent)
I have to agree as I seemed to have a lot more issues with WGT than with the integrated software for PhiGolf.
I just got this and it's horrible. Might take some time with the power of your swing. But 100% junk. The putting is horrible. You hardly tap it and its off the green. You showed how many balls went ob. I would never recommend this and I'm returning asap.
I just unboxed mine this afternoon and I'm charging the unit that plugs into the grip! Downloaded the two apps so I should be up and running soon! I'll get back to you! 🐊🏌🦅🇺🇲