Review of The Hammerhead Karoo Cycling Computer

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  • Review of The Hammerhead Karoo Cycling Computer
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    A couple of weeks ago I released a film where I unboxed a Hammerhead Karoo Cycling Computer. In this film, I do a full review of the said Hammerhead Karoo.
    According to Hammerhead themselves, the Karoo is the next generation of cycling computers but what makes it so different and, furthermore, what makes it special compared to other brands of cycling computers such as Garmin and Wahoo?
    I go through all of the main features of the Karoo, including its ride metrics and its navigation, plus a few other essential pros and cons of this new generation of cycling computer.
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Komentáře • 217

  • @cjharrer01
    @cjharrer01 Před 4 lety +1

    Great review, I have had one since they came out and I love it. It is easy to see and very reliable. Thanks for review.

  • @donjagoe
    @donjagoe Před 4 lety +20

    Now THAT’s a review! Superb.

  • @Solarsystem50
    @Solarsystem50 Před 4 lety

    I purchased the Karoo after watching your review. You provided all the information I was looking for.

  • @dirkbodschard3961
    @dirkbodschard3961 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for your efforts of making this video. I ordered mine a few days ago and looking forward to using it

  • @wranglercycling6420
    @wranglercycling6420 Před 4 lety

    Love the rain drops over the screen while outside...!!

  • @saynotothegreatreset
    @saynotothegreatreset Před 4 lety +1

    This is the best review I've seen of karoo , thank you

  • @jonathanjackson7921
    @jonathanjackson7921 Před 4 lety +1

    On sale at the moment too so bought one. Thanks for the review. Looking forward to getting out with it.

  • @markl2815
    @markl2815 Před 4 lety +4

    Read the title this time :-)
    This is the one I wanted. I know there are other reviews but I trust your view
    Cheers

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Thanks Mark. I genuinely like using it and am excited to see what the future holds.

  • @j.r.newton2427
    @j.r.newton2427 Před 3 lety

    So I've taken the plunge. I was thinking about getting a karoo 2, but can't justify the price and found a second hand (pristine) karoo 1 for £165. First impressions .... great! Thanks for this video Leonard. helped me decide.

  • @KlaasjanM
    @KlaasjanM Před 4 lety

    Thank you for your extended review. I just ordered a karoo on black friday, i can't wait to use it

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety +1

      Enjoy your Karoo.

    • @ojh666
      @ojh666 Před 4 lety +1

      how much was it on Black Friday? Just looking now and hopefully still similarly priced!

    • @KlaasjanM
      @KlaasjanM Před 4 lety +1

      @@ojh666 239 euro

    • @KlaasjanM
      @KlaasjanM Před 4 lety

      @@jollygoodvelo thanks

    • @ojh666
      @ojh666 Před 4 lety

      @@KlaasjanM Damn im now looking for one! ...at that price hopefully!

  • @kenblair2538
    @kenblair2538 Před 4 lety

    Nice review, and very interesting cycling computer. Have to put one on my upgrade list, but will have to wait, till Live Track is available, my wife won't let me leave home without it. KB.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      I think it needs live track and live segments.

  • @paulk232
    @paulk232 Před 4 lety

    That's a great review Lenard, well explained and simple,👌👌 I will end buying one of these, another toy to play with.😅🚲.

  • @dcmsr5141
    @dcmsr5141 Před 4 lety

    Interesting review, we'll see how it develops and matures. It's been 3 months and I finally received my Elemnt ROAM. Certainly the competition will only make the others step up more on their game. Thanks for sharing

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Enjoy the Roam. It looks good.

    • @TexasNightRider
      @TexasNightRider Před 4 lety

      I have been using the Elemnt for two years. I like the screen size but I have been considering the ROAM. I may wait one more year to upgrade but I really like the Wahoo Elemnt cycling computers.

    • @philchrystal635
      @philchrystal635 Před 4 lety

      @@TexasNightRider I also just upgraded from the Bolt to the Roam, Mainly for the larger screen, I really wanted the Karoo but without sound it is a none starter as i rely on the audio prompts for planned workouts, live Strava segments, and most importantly Garmin Varia. I emailed Karoo and asked if audio was going to be a future thing but they have no plans for it. But i really like the Roam. But would prefer it with an even larger screen.

    • @TexasNightRider
      @TexasNightRider Před 4 lety

      @@philchrystal635 Thank you.

  • @kevelliott
    @kevelliott Před 4 lety

    Great review, thanks! I think I might wait until it connects with my phone. I have enjoyed my Garmin's ability to do that - once I worked out that it could!

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      That’s a biggie.

    • @talonlan
      @talonlan Před 4 lety

      Not sure it ever will as you can't connect one Android device to another ( as far as I am aware ), and this is basically a phones software.

    • @rikkiola
      @rikkiola Před 4 lety

      @@talonlan You can connect phones via bluetooth, as a Garmin or Wahoo connects, so in theory it could (should?) be possible?

  • @MrExCat
    @MrExCat Před 4 lety

    Great review! Thank you very much!

  • @waterside13
    @waterside13 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the review.

  • @richardharker2775
    @richardharker2775 Před 4 lety

    Excellent review Leonard. The turn by turn navigation was a bit brief but from what I see could I assume it is like the Wahoo with a chevron line across the map screen?
    Just another thing with battery life. Mobile phone screens are the biggest energy usage. I have been using an iPhone7 for the last few years following routes with turn by turn navigation, airplane mode and keeping the screen off until I need to see the metrics. Battery in good weather has been up to 20 hours like this. I say good weather because when it gets too cold the battery literally dies within hours.
    Because the Karoo is based on a mobile phone platform with touchscreen (another energy drain) is it possible to run it with the screen off until you wake it? Or at least have it run in a low brightness setting.
    Keep up the excellent reviews my friend.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety +1

      I tried to keep everything concise as I plan on making some in depth how to films explaining in detail how to do all kinds of things with the Karoo. Navigation included.

  • @jirdesteva
    @jirdesteva Před 4 lety

    Very promising piece of gear. Great review thank you. I think I'l wait till my current cycling computer dies though before I buy this one. Hopefully by then the Karoo will have the ability to connect to my phone or have a sim card in it.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Yes, if your current computer is doing the job, stick with it.

    • @cptbrncls7050
      @cptbrncls7050 Před 4 lety

      the Karoo can take a SIM card but I think functionality is just restricted to real time access to map data

    • @whazzat8015
      @whazzat8015 Před 3 lety

      @@cptbrncls7050 yep. not a phone , just uses Android OS. SIM adds little at this stage , best served by a free connection unless live segments is big deal to you. I am not a group rider and trust my wife to be out of sight without getting jealous, though she's having the tracking chip put in my neck.

  • @atj1530
    @atj1530 Před 4 lety +1

    Live Tracking was just included in the newest release today 1/2/20.

  • @ob1174
    @ob1174 Před 4 lety

    Excellent review!

  • @JohnSmith-uu3gg
    @JohnSmith-uu3gg Před 4 lety

    Great review Leonard 👍

  • @waelabdelrhman1419
    @waelabdelrhman1419 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the fair review, I orderd one today BLACK FRIDAY with £197,which is really good price. I will let you know what I think about it
    What I have to do with my Edge 510, 🤔🤔.
    In another note about your review for the back and gloves warmers. You can also use heatpads on your back £5 for 6,far cheaper than the back battery assisted heater

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety +1

      Hope you like it Wael. From what I’ve seen, the 510s are selling for about £50-£60 on eBay.

  • @Jeff.Slavich
    @Jeff.Slavich Před 4 lety

    Great review. For the type of riding I do, I generally use my Iphone and strava summit. It's hard for me to justify the $400 for the additional info.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      If it works for you there’s no need to use anything else.

  • @snafujag100
    @snafujag100 Před 4 lety

    Top shelf review!

  • @leedorney
    @leedorney Před 4 lety

    I like the way Leonard discusses matters basically and clearly.. 👌 tho these are professional productions as the guys in the media industry I think..

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, I’ve been a cameraman for the last 20 years.

  • @GustavBates
    @GustavBates Před 3 lety

    looks brilliant

  • @monty2078
    @monty2078 Před 4 lety

    Hi Leonard, Great review. My old Garmin 800 is showing its age and I am looking at something new. Hammerhead, Yahoo and Garmin all have strengths and weaknesses, but none of them are great. If a cell phone (Android or Apple) had connectivity to the sensors, they would become the perfect cycling computer as the battery even lasts as long as the cycling computers. Galaxy lasts about 15 hours if using it with ridewithgps and a small external battery can extend that for as long as you want. Hopefully, someone will eventually provide the complete package so that we only need one device, however, I imagine many manufacturers don't want to see that day.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Many smartphones can connect to Bluetooth speed, HR and cadence sensors.

    • @monty2078
      @monty2078 Před 4 lety +1

      @@jollygoodvelo Thanks Leonard. You can pair the older ANT+ garmin sensors to a phone using a doongle on the phone and a lot of fiddling. The new garmin sensors support Bluetooth, but I have the old sensors. I will think about upgrading the sensors after I do some research on how well this actually works. Cheers

  • @stepheneurosailor1623
    @stepheneurosailor1623 Před 3 lety

    Great review help.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 3 lety

      I made this review over a year ago. Hammerhead have updated the software many times so it works slightly different now. There is also the Karoo 2 which has just come out.

  • @paulluckas836
    @paulluckas836 Před 4 lety

    Great review - thank you. Do you happen to know what is required to pair current Di2 to the unit? I presume one needs a Shimano wireless Di2 unit somewhere in the system.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      You need the Di2 Bluetooth module and some connector cables. About £60 I think.

  • @RavyDavy
    @RavyDavy Před 4 lety

    Nice review - if my garmin 520 ever kicked the bucket, I would certainly give the Karoo a thought.
    At the 9:00 ish into the video you are talking about being able to download maps, but on the screen itself, you can see the likes of the entire North America being 28Gb, but the Karoo showed having 3.3Gb used of 9.9Gb. Is the internal memory up gradable, via SD card for eg?
    No sounds is a bit of a pain, but not a dealbreaker - the only bit I think they miss a trick with, is being able to connect to your phone to show incoming calls/texts, or even sync using the phones 4G etc.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety +1

      There is no way of upgrading the memory as far as I am aware. The whole of the US would be 28GB but it gets broken down further into individual states which are much smaller.

  • @donnyvonshitzinpants_4_jail_24

    Great review. I just purchased the black Friday deal. I asked them if Strava live segments are on the way and they said yes but no set timeline. That will complete the package for me.

    • @cptbrncls7050
      @cptbrncls7050 Před 4 lety +1

      yes, I bought the same deal. Looking forward to it but would like text.phone call notifications as I never hear or feel my phone in my jersey pocket.

    • @donnyvonshitzinpants_4_jail_24
      @donnyvonshitzinpants_4_jail_24 Před 4 lety

      @@cptbrncls7050 maybe smart watch would help but agree that plus live segments may actually be the complete package!

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      I was also told by Hammerhead that Live Segments is coming but the only time frame I was given was simply 2020 sometime.

    • @nathanwv222
      @nathanwv222 Před 4 lety

      That should have been a development high priority. It is probably a legal issue or a $ issues that is holding them back on implementing live segments.

  • @deans2239
    @deans2239 Před 4 lety

    gret review :-) have you ever considered getting a power meter? for someone with as many bikes as you have, I'd suggest Favero Assiomas as a pedal based power meter is easiest to change between bikes. power meters really change the way you view your training

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      I have but a couple of things put me off: the price and how much use I would actually get from it.

  • @u.e.u.e.
    @u.e.u.e. Před 4 lety

    Cool review! 😃👍
    Some questions came up:
    - Is the ?LCD/OLED? screen bright enough in sunlight?
    - Does the brightness of the screen adapt to the environment or is it easy to control it?
    - Can the 8 GB memory be expanded by a card?
    - Does it make sense to install komoot on this device?
    - How can apps be installed on the device?
    Thanks in advance! 🤗

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      I’m enjoying only tested the Karoo in the UK in Winter but I would say that it is bright.

    • @glenstroik6701
      @glenstroik6701 Před 4 lety

      I just got done doing a ride with the Karoo and my Garmin 1030. I am still deciding if I want to keep the Karoo. The Karoo has a better display in bright sunlight. It has a black background like the dark feature on the latest Iphone. It wins in that comparison.

  • @StephanieManley
    @StephanieManley Před 4 lety

    This computer looks great!

  • @thomashenkler4969
    @thomashenkler4969 Před 4 lety

    Well you and the Black Friday sale convinced me. Order is in. I like the option of setting up different bikes. Any ideas for how it will work with dirt trail bikes?

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      I would imagine it will record a gpx track non problem but probably not navigate on one.

    • @glenstroik6701
      @glenstroik6701 Před 4 lety

      You can use a Garmin mount, but the tether that Karoo provides, is not elastic like what Garmin offers. There are also no instructions on how to install the tether. You need to go to the website to figure it out. I will spoil it and tell you to remove the mounting base and install it under the base. But don't expect the allen key provided with the unit to loosen that mount screw. The quality of these allen keys is very poor, and you risk stripping the fastener if you use them. My point is that the tether needs to go around the handle bar when riding off road. Karoo wants you to mount it to the out front mount only. They refuse to offer an elastic version. This means you need to purchase a $35 mount for each bike you use it on. I added a very stout rubber band to the tether, and then can use my Garmin mount that is already on the mountain bike. The other issue is the charge port plug. It has no tether which means it will get lost, and dirt and water will get in to the charge port. That is another poor design feature. In their defense, they do provide a spare. I just can't believe they would overlook such simple design features.

  • @moi7748
    @moi7748 Před 4 lety

    I seem to remember that you had a problem pairing your HR and Cadence at the same time? And if you HAD to choose, would you upgrade to the Karoo or are you happy with the Garmin?

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Yes, I managed to work it all out. Everything works perfectly now.

  • @MilanSmore
    @MilanSmore Před 3 lety

    thanks for the review! Does it hold up in 2021? Still get updates and how is the battery doing? Thx 😁

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 3 lety

      Over 18 months on and the Karoo is going strong. Battery life is still about 8-9 hours and I get regular firmware updates every couple of months

  • @NildoScoop
    @NildoScoop Před 4 lety

    It looks great.

  • @zyghom
    @zyghom Před 4 lety

    Bro, few questions: battery life (can you turn off the display) and does it have Karoo own webpage like Garmin or Suunto (with all metrics) in case you don’t want to use Strava? Can you get gpx or fit file from Karoo? Does it have mp3 player so connection to BT headphones?

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Yes, you can put the display into sleep mode to save battery life. There is might be a feature on the Hammerhead site saving your rides (you will have to look. At present there is no music app on the Karoo.

  • @graeme8934
    @graeme8934 Před 4 lety

    Good review.

  • @insanegixxerdude486
    @insanegixxerdude486 Před 3 lety

    That thing is massive!

  • @sapiens7821
    @sapiens7821 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the review does anyone know if this has a re route action if you get lost on your route thanks

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      It certainly does. I very often go off route.

  • @benhavell
    @benhavell Před 4 lety

    Just a note to say the SIM card slot is actually under the Garmin mount (hence the Allen bolt holding it on) not sure what the slot you showed at that portion of the video is for though. Great review

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Thanks. I thought that was the sim slot. I couldn’t remove the Garmin mount. The bolt was rock solid.

    • @jasonmart1081
      @jasonmart1081 Před 4 lety

      @@jollygoodvelo The sim slot is not under the mount. It's accessible by removing the back cover (which is possible with the mount in place, but is easier with it removed)

  • @gustavorodriguez9810
    @gustavorodriguez9810 Před 4 lety

    Does it pair well to Garmin sensors such as the ones that come with bundles? Cadence, Speed, and HR garmin pieces? I am looking to get this because my garmin edge 520 got stolen but I still have the sensors. It’d be great to spend the extra money and not have to get the whole bundle.

  • @broncobronco8746
    @broncobronco8746 Před 2 lety

    Hi leanard. Does this computer have a casing for it? Jus to protect it incase it falls or anything?

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 2 lety

      It has replaceable plastic shells but not silicone skin type cases.

  • @davidstihler9689
    @davidstihler9689 Před 4 lety

    Great Review. The big showstopper is no sound. I use the Garmin Varia RTL 510 radar. The garmin will beep multiple times when a car approaches. It's a safety feature I'm not willing to give up. Karoo can't fix this with a software update and will need to come out with a second gen in order to offer sound. I'm not sure why they didn't design this into the unit but it's a deal breaker for me. Radar is becoming more and more ubiquitous as manufacturers are integrating the technology into their units. It has saved my bacon many times.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Yes, very odd that it is totally silent.

    • @GK-zr9cq
      @GK-zr9cq Před 2 lety

      I'd like to know what use the radar info is for you. If a car is going to hit you there won't be time to jump off the road.

  • @randyeller8139
    @randyeller8139 Před 4 lety

    Wonder if the pairing issues with your iPhone was because of the android software on the computer. A coworker has an android based tablet and has the same issue. Very interesting bit of kit but looked on their website and it costs more than I have in my whole cycling fleet! Looking forward to a follow up on this after you’ve lived with it a while.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      It doesn’t pair with any phone over Bluetooth. It just doesn’t have that functionality just yet. Might do in the future, though.

  • @ttalonso
    @ttalonso Před 4 lety

    excellent review, I like your voice. I don't speak english but I undernstand all

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Thank you. You must be pretty good at English, even if you say you don’t speak it.

  • @retroonhisbikes
    @retroonhisbikes Před 4 lety

    Thank you for the review. I must admit it was very brave of you to leave Garmin, like giving up your iPhone for something unknown.
    I have the Garmin radar does the Karoo have the required facilities for the radar like wahoo etc? Maybe one of your viewers may know the answer?
    (After my crash I can highly recommend a tether as I may have lost my computer as it was knocked out the holder but saved by the cord)

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety +1

      I haven’t completely left Garmin just yet. It’s there just in case!

    • @davidstihler9689
      @davidstihler9689 Před 4 lety +1

      You can use the garmin radar with the Karoo - just no sound

    • @retroonhisbikes
      @retroonhisbikes Před 4 lety

      Thanks guys.
      I believe I can connect to phone and use it’s speakers so that may be the answer

  • @totalrepawns
    @totalrepawns Před 4 lety

    great review Leonard ! some nice features in that unit but i do not like the look of it very bulky design when compared to say edge 1030

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      The larger, bulkier design is one of the main things I like about it.

    • @totalrepawns
      @totalrepawns Před 4 lety

      @@jollygoodvelo I saw that, but I am one those weight weenies 😉

  • @samsgarioto459
    @samsgarioto459 Před 3 lety

    great review, you may have swung it for me.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 3 lety +1

      They will be launching the Karoo 2 very soon. At the moment all the Karoo 1s are out of stock. The only way to get one now is second hand.

    • @samsgarioto459
      @samsgarioto459 Před 3 lety

      @@jollygoodvelo have pre ordered a Karro 2

  • @voiceofreason9780
    @voiceofreason9780 Před 4 lety

    Did rain/water affect the screen? For example, my phone is waterproof but when rain or sweat falls on it (even with a case) it can affect the touch screen functionality. It sometimes interprets drops as touches and starts doing unwanted things or stops responding to actual touches until the liquid is removed.

  • @Paddystyx
    @Paddystyx Před 3 lety

    Hi Leonard, so it’s a year since your review, how do you find it now and would you still recommend it. I see a lot of negative comments on Facebook about their delivery time and customers relations or lack of it.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 3 lety +1

      I still really like the Karoo and their customer service for the Karoo 1 was second to none. I know there are issues with the Karoo 2, though

    • @Paddystyx
      @Paddystyx Před 3 lety

      leonardmlee I always enjoy you video and your honest. Thank you for your reply.

  • @casparatherton8548
    @casparatherton8548 Před 4 lety

    Fantastic review. Can anyone tell me - does this mean that the Karoo is fully functional without any form of smart phone?

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Yes, you can use the Karoo completely independently.

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd Před 4 lety

    Yes I too use mobile hotspot for WiFi to sync, did you succeed. Need help? It works well. Just needs data on mobile

  • @johngould3724
    @johngould3724 Před 4 lety +1

    They are under £200 for Black Friday. There is a 90 day trial too.

  • @eminhasanov
    @eminhasanov Před 4 lety

    Great review, just missed usual background music ))

  • @flagshipmatchmaking5404

    We carry these Karoos at Naples Cyclery!

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Send me your details. I know people that are wanting to buy them but Hammerhead themselves are completely sold out.

  • @ronhoover5516
    @ronhoover5516 Před 4 lety

    Very nice review!

  • @5x9withQSB
    @5x9withQSB Před 4 lety +1

    I want one !!

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      I think they are even half price at the moment.

    • @bikeridealot
      @bikeridealot Před 4 lety

      Through Monday, Dec 2 in the USA they are $249 with a 45-day trial period. A very good deal!

  • @whazzat8015
    @whazzat8015 Před 3 lety

    At 9 mon, mount broke on road ride, no provocation. Tethered, attached to part that breaks off. Got smashed on road.
    Mount is overstressed for mass of the device , amplified by the size which increases the lever arm and stress.
    Big battery needed to run the beautiful screen. Lack of sound can be addressed by small $10 clip on BT speaker.
    Sensor drop and loss of ride data , not zero but prolly no worse than other brands. Good mapping, Integrates well with strava, Di2 and garmin radar. Nice folks to deal with. Cell connection and Android app side loading remain undeveloped.
    For me , if my phone had ANT+, it would do everything I need, and BT sensors less expensive than a replacement.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 3 lety

      Yes, the Karoo is much bigger and heavier than most cycling computers and needs a very sturdy mount.

    • @whazzat8015
      @whazzat8015 Před 3 lety

      @@jollygoodvelo Yes, my only real problem with its weight was with the Garmin mount they went with. Broke at attaching screw. Watch that bounce you get. K2 mount looks more secure. Secure mounting is a concern all larger units and phones share.

  • @whazzat8015
    @whazzat8015 Před 4 lety

    Good review.
    I was off put by original concern over fiddelyness, that you set straight.
    With age, the complexities of obsolescence, updates, quirky connectivities and feature creep have become very offputting, and this device appears to have very well thought out design. I mean, Tognazzini and Norton were what? 1985, Garmin?
    If I ever glance at a screen longer than a parasec , while riding, before getting off the bike, I'm going back to static trainers.
    My understanding of lithium batteries , is that storage should be at 80%, which is why they are received at less than full charge.
    I ,too, find that frustrates my eager unboxing, but should not detract, otherwise, as it protects the battery when stored, giving longer life.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Not sure what battery is in the Karoo.

    • @whazzat8015
      @whazzat8015 Před 4 lety

      @@jollygoodvelo Will let you know when it gets here. Your demo of the interface was pretty concise. and showed it to advantage. So many devices have menus that are not as well thought out and executed, I was sold. The makers seem to have good tech cred and if they can stay around for the half life of a garmin, they look like they have a hit on their hands. Good design says the use their own products.

    • @whazzat8015
      @whazzat8015 Před 3 lety

      Am 7 months out after getting one on Black Friday 2019 at a very good price from the factory .
      Quite happy with it.
      It is a chunky piece and I am not sure what advantage that conceals ( the soon to be seen 2.0 will be smaller) But battery life is OK, and features and configurablity are quite good. Not having a prior bike computer , I can't compare to the 520 I was contemplating, but it meets my need well. It needs Strava or something like it to really display results. It has good connectivity. As every one says, it needs a speaker, but I really don't need TBT nav or a phone in my ear.
      The customer service guys at Hammerhead have been great, and karoousers.org is a good bunch for help and advice. With the $4m venture capital they got last year, I am looking forward to seeing where this goes.
      Oh, and Tognazzini and Norton were the guys that designed the mac 1.0 interface. I am a fan of good design/UX.

  • @johnhooper1492
    @johnhooper1492 Před 4 lety

    Is this available in the USA? Does also have MTB functionality? Thanks

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      It is easily available in the US. It probably won’t give you MTB routes, though. Otherwise it works exactly the same.

  • @gustavorodriguez9810
    @gustavorodriguez9810 Před 4 lety

    Does it only sync to Strava? Or can it connect to other platforms like Suunto or Fitbit?

  • @travelly1
    @travelly1 Před 4 lety

    When is the next one coming out? The no audio is a deal breaker for me.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Not sure. You can connect a Bluetooth headphones or speaker and have some audio.

  • @CycoWarriorx
    @CycoWarriorx Před 4 lety

    Good review... it looks enticing, but that’s a high price point...

  • @markfeldman6509
    @markfeldman6509 Před 4 lety

    Wow....thanks for the in depth comprehensive review of the product. You just saved me $400. New Catrike 559 to be picked up in the next few days and I think I am going to stick with a very inexpensive basic cycling computer and implement my I phone 8 utilizing map features with either Siri or google and several of the excellent free cycling apps that measure all of the data I need.I ride a lot of long trail rides and need access to texts and calls and all of my locations in the US have great cellular service ...I love new fancy toys but don’t think the cost is justified when my existing technology can perform the tasks necessary for my cycling experience. Great review! Thanks again.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      I think we all love new toys.

    • @glenstroik6701
      @glenstroik6701 Před 4 lety

      You are spot on in your opinion. I am here seeing what others think of the Karoo. I just bought it and after a few rides, have decided pretty much what you just said! I had a Garmin 520, and updated to a 1030 for the mapping feature when on vacation, but it has always given me issues. I am going back to a 520 and a good phone mount.

    • @markfeldman6509
      @markfeldman6509 Před 4 lety

      Glen Stroik smart move. All of us crazy riders are geeks when it comes to toys and spend a lot of cash on superfluous gear....I am at or near the top of that list! I am also an avid golfer and used to get suckered in with the new gear associated with the game...until you eventually realize “ it is not the arrow...it’s the Indian”. I just arrived in Florida last week for the winter with my new Catrike 559 and I have been utilizing a free app on my iPhone 8 called” Road Bike” which offers everything I could possibly need including great gps map while riding and all data.Ties into Strava or any other service. More than enough for me. Finding the perfect mount took some work...but,once mounted it is wonderful and the camera on the new iPhones is great. Enjoy your rides! Happy holidays and a healthy prosperous new year.

  • @LeoInterHyenaem
    @LeoInterHyenaem Před 4 lety

    Currently, the HammerHead are offering a Black Friday discount. The discounted price is a rather affordable €250,- or equivalent. Despatch within the EU is free of charge, as is in North America.
    It isn't perfect (my pet peeve being the limited storage, as you may remember from my comments on your first Karoo video). I'm also not a big fan of the screen texture - it doesn't feel as pleasant to the touch as smartphone screens are, but that's an inevitable flaw of low-reflectivity glass / plastic.
    Another issue I lament - is its limited support for offline routing (this is an important feature, HammerHead, please, do make sure it is implemented in the the next firmware update).
    Overall, it's better than any Garmin unit, the Sigma ROX 12.0 and all Wahoos. A steal at €250,- (I wish, I bought Mine during the discount)! :/

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, I can see how the memory might be limited but I really like it on the whole.

    • @LeoInterHyenaem
      @LeoInterHyenaem Před 4 lety

      @@jollygoodvelo There's more: for instance, one can't search a location by street name and number, POI, longitude and latitude, etc. on the device; one can't choose a point (let alone a few) on the way to a destination directly on the device; one can't enquire for POIs in the vicinity of the chosen point; choosing a location to navigate to (without a use of a computer) won't work if the point in question is a couple of hundreds of kilometres away from one's current location, and more. Still, I agree that overal it is a good device, perhaps among the best (at present, anyway) - but it does miss a hell of a lot of both software and hardware features. Hope, they implement these and many more in the near future.

  • @tkpeters
    @tkpeters Před 4 lety +1

    Just in time for the Black Friday Deal at $249 / £196.00
    Even my Polar V650 has Strava Live Segments, calling out how many seconds ahead/behind I am, without it, I'll wait for the update before I purchase.
    Can you not Hotspot your phone or use a SIM for the Data?
    & then you just asked that question....

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety +1

      Live Strava segments is a biggie.

    • @tkpeters
      @tkpeters Před 4 lety +1

      @@jollygoodvelo Strange that it's not being licensed by Hammerhead, as Strava promote " Hammerhead .... Explore the Karoo > " on your rides

  • @cptbrncls7050
    @cptbrncls7050 Před 4 lety

    How is visibility when using polarised sunglasses?

  • @peterhartill3047
    @peterhartill3047 Před 4 lety

    Fair Play Leonard 👍
    Brilliant review the hammerhead does look a contender for cycling computers
    I use Garmin 1000 edge and as everyone knows they are not perfect either and when it totally packs up I was thinking of a Wahoo and now there’s a hammerhead
    The thing is As these do cost a lot of money £400 £300 pounds then you find out that they do have problems working correctly or battery’s running out when they say they last so long and never do
    It’s So frustrating when they don’t do what they are supposed to When we as cyclists pay so much why do we except that they are not going to work all the time how they should
    A lot of cyclists just say you have to put up with it or buy something else To me this is so wrong RANT OVER 😂
    😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      I think the prefect cycling computer is easier said then done. We will all want different things.

  • @dec60fan98
    @dec60fan98 Před 4 lety

    How is the display in bright sunlight?

  • @BrianRouse
    @BrianRouse Před 4 lety

    Is it compatible with third party companies like ridewithgps?

  • @TexasNightRider
    @TexasNightRider Před 4 lety

    No live track, does not receive text messages, does not receive phone calls makes this device a non starter for me. Without your review I wouldn't have known this. Thank you.

  • @stevewalter3742
    @stevewalter3742 Před 4 lety +1

    👍

  • @AmsterDanTheAmerican
    @AmsterDanTheAmerican Před 4 lety

    Wait until you've had at least 3 software updates...the bugs will come. It's a science project. Also, make sure you secure it to your handlebar with the tether provided...the mount will likely break. Look at it bouncing in you video. I hope it works better for you than it did me. Eventually it will be a great unit but not for some time.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      So far, it’s working great.

    • @lupus7194
      @lupus7194 Před 4 lety

      The Karoo did initially have some bugs but all those that affected me have been addressed in fortnightly software updates. They did have some issue with the mount breaking but this was addressed some time ago - they sent out (free) a new mount. I use the Karoo primarily for navigation which works very well. I can't think what you are doing that doesn't work - perhaps you could elaborate on your issues.
      Prior to getting the Karoo, I had 4 different Garmin devices which had a variety of software issues, physical device deficiencies, I never got an update and you had to pay $100 for mapping in areas other than where you bought it. Perhaps you had better experiences than me from Garmin. I see other devices (Garmin, Bryton, Magellan / Mio, Wahoo etc) being used by other cyclists. What I don't see is anyone claiming his device is absolutely fabulous. They all seem to have their detractors.

    • @AmsterDanTheAmerican
      @AmsterDanTheAmerican Před 4 lety

      @@lupus7194 YMMV

    • @GroteGeer
      @GroteGeer Před 4 lety

      The current karoo's are from a new batch - the barcodesticker shows: SKU-1.1 The backside foot is much more compact / tighter when mounted 😇
      Also a newly designed mount (no Barfly anymore) New mount has a more material structure design - so this absorbs vibrations much better. Plus the mount bottom has a more contact surface (because the screw heads are smaller)

  • @karlstannard662
    @karlstannard662 Před 4 lety

    cool

  • @WanStringer
    @WanStringer Před 4 lety

    No sound is a bummer. I love my bleeps on my Garmin.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Not sure I would say quite that but it’s quite odd. Doesn’t even make a sound when you plug it in to charge.

    • @donnyvonshitzinpants_4_jail_24
      @donnyvonshitzinpants_4_jail_24 Před 4 lety

      Pair it with your smart watch and problem solved re sound

  • @eecak1973
    @eecak1973 Před 4 lety

    Looks a bit wobberly on the mount. It seems a bit limited features over a Garmin.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety +1

      That was filmed using a Halfords mount. The actual Hammerhead Mount was very secure.

  • @alteragnostik
    @alteragnostik Před 4 lety

    Sorry, I don't have 15 minutes to watch the entire video to get the answer to a simple question.
    So can anybody please tell me how long the battery holds on a single charge? Thank you!

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      All I know is that mine has done a three hour ride and still had about 70% remaining.

  • @tomnanD3
    @tomnanD3 Před 4 lety

    Two things that keep me from buying Karoo...first, no Varia-style rear radar. Second, no remote to change screens like Garmin has.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      That functionality may well be added at a later date. Anything is possible.

    • @bjorngiese3530
      @bjorngiese3530 Před 4 lety

      Hi Tom, both functions have been implemented with the sw update 1.95.686.3 published October 16, 2019 already ;-)

  • @TomStringer
    @TomStringer Před 4 lety

    7.5% per hour is not bad

  • @wannabeuk
    @wannabeuk Před 4 lety

    Forgive me for doubting your integrity but it can't possibly be an unbiased review when you receive the unit for free and have affiliate links in the description.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      While paying for something might have given me a slightly different outlook, I can still decide if I like it or not. Yes, there are affiliate links in the description but I hope the people watching the review would be able use it to make up their own minds about buying it or not.

    • @wannabeuk
      @wannabeuk Před 4 lety

      @@jollygoodvelo Whilst normally that would be true, you stated in your unboxing video that you reached out to Hammerhead and asked for a freebie. Which they apparently obliged. Unfortunately this puts you clearly in a different camp to those who might review the unit impartially. You should have started your video with a clear declaration of your interests. CZcams are reasonably clear about their rules regarding paid product placements and endorsements.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Joel Carter Strictly speaking, this was not a paid product placement or paid endorsement. I received a Karoo to test and review. I was under no obligation to like it or even give any positive feedback.

  • @peter_kropotkin_
    @peter_kropotkin_ Před 4 lety

    bro, review power meter next

  • @peterbee8892
    @peterbee8892 Před 4 lety

    What was the screen like when raindrops fell on it.

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      It was still very clear. The shot with the drops in the review was with the Karoo switched off so there was nothing on the screen.

    • @thomashenkler4969
      @thomashenkler4969 Před 4 lety +1

      Wet.

  • @paulclark9968
    @paulclark9968 Před 4 lety

    Me being the Old school English Dandy i will select Imperial.....

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Hurrah! Roast beef and warm beer for everyone!

  • @normadicn5700
    @normadicn5700 Před 4 lety

    Am looking for 20£ cycling computer

    • @jollygoodvelo
      @jollygoodvelo  Před 4 lety

      Have a look in Amazon. They have some at that price point.