Elden Ring's Lore Explained! by VattiVidya | REACTION
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Concerning the Carian Knights vs Crucible Knights, remember, the major weakness for the Crucible Kinghts is a parry and those Carian Knights are friggin *MASTERS* of it lol.
I feel like Marika didn't turn into Radagon and go to Rennala, it's implied that they physically separated from each other for a time before conjoining again later. I'm sure he met and married Rennala during that time and he probably didn't have a choice but to return to Marika cause he was going to conjoin with her soon, him marrying her was probably just to cover up that fact.
I agree, not to mention that it is apparent that Marika and radagon had 2 different personalities, objectives, and motivations as shown by the fact that radagon tried to repair the elden ring after Marika broke it
The lore I’ve heard is that in the war with the giants, Marika was cursed by the giants, and then Marika cursed the last giant to tend to the flames. Marika separated the curse from her into another body, Radagon. This explains his red hair, as well.
I think radagon is the embodiment of the greater will , which is why ranni slayed her body so that it wouldn’t be able to use her to embody itself physically, it also explains why we find radagon trying to repair the Elden ring even when it was impossible he couldn’t even control himself bc he was actually the greater will in physical form
The japanese text straight up says they are NOT the same person, they BECOME the same person as punishment for Marika breaking the Elden Ring.
He has finally discovered THE LORE MAN (TM)
VaatiVidya, basically the writer of the SoulsBorne series, because no one would be able to tell the difference between him and the real one.
Nah, hes just the best at presenting the lore of these games in a way thats appealing to people. He does his own research to some degree, but most of his information comes from other people compiling and interpreting the lore.
@@dud5606 this entirely - he actually got a lot of flak at one point for not giving credit - and he has sent did what he could to give credit to the ideas.
nah he is wrong about the erdtree, being parasitic.
@@siragito405 There is actually some good evidence for this in terms of how corpses are constantly buried at their roots, the warrior jars themselves being somewhat ambiguous and other stranger things. In addition from a purely meta point of view, theres no way in a game co-written by G.R.R.M and Miyazaki that there's just a giant god tree that helps symbiotically with no significant drawback. It's just too good to be true lol.
@@uberdjura4003 Living-Jars corpse purpose are delivering Corpses to Minor Tree, so their souls can be saved when they are buried.
holy shit he discovered vaati, welcome to the rabbit hole
This is why I love Elden Ring despite the chaos of the peak "Maidenless" behaviour of the community, I love the lore cuz it leaves you the rest of the story and may differ depending on your level of understanding. They say the good book is not always be printed, and luckily these days you don't need to own a book just to enjoy a good story and I'm happy that video games is like a new form novel cuz having one is like buying a book and a game at once which is for me a peak level of entertainment.
VattiVidya can make a 10 minute long video about a freaking rock and I'll still watch it
Interesting thing to note about the Golden order is that while they oppress a to of different species, one type they do not are those of two bodies yet one soul. IE the D brothers, this may be a hint towards Radagon and Marika being the same.
The reason you don’t “die” by Maliketh if you perish in his boss fight is because the whole death rune was separate from the Elden ring at that time. You may ask, what about Godwyn? The death rune was still part of the Elden ring, Rani only stole part of it to perform her ritual. Merika then shatters the Elden ring bestowing her children and Maliketh with its great runes and death rune respectively, unless there is lore saying these event happen at different time.
4:09 the giga chad Godfrey is awesome
The way I see it, removing Destined Death goes against the Greater Will (Greater Will).
ever since seeing that boss, i've seen Radagan and Marika as some kind of supernatural siamise twin. The world has magic, so... there might be some mutations that would happen.
Regarding crucible knights vs carrion knights........I think the equivalent for a crucible knight would be someone like Loretta?
I'm sort of thinking that the crucible knights didn't take part in the war against liurnia as they were the knights of godfrey and radagon was the one leading the assault against the carians
@@glockenspiel604 correct
14:20 well, there is an explanation for why he can’t just perma Death us. And that is because there are about 20 Black Knife Assassins, including the ones Blaidd and Iji killed and Alecto and Tiche, all of whom have Destined Death infused Black Knives, which some theorise were originally Blades of Calling. But that is roughly twenty shards of the Rune of Destined Death. No wonder the Black Blade is falling apart and can’t deliver you true Death.
I really love exploring the lore like this and Vaati is definitely one of the best at it, so it really does upset me that quite a lot of people make fun of it and him. As if it's all just made up nonsense and a waist of time, like bitch, you just waisted over 100 hours on a video game, are you really any better.
I hope he sees this bro
This may be a video game, but I appreciate how knowledgeable you are, simply beyond what's "fact" both In life and in video game lore
Now I know why I get insta parried by Carian Knights. They are that much of a boss. Imagine facing 5 in a single room. Hoo boi.
From what I can tell i think that radagon and marika are two halves of the original marika she needed to take over the carian knights so she separated her law of regression to bring them into the golden order. Over time their personalities grew on their own and they couldn’t become one again so they made children to hopefully reincarnate a new vessel for her but both were born disfigured and flawed. She sent tarnished away in hopes they would come back strong enough to be her vessel. She caused the shattering as a trial for a new vessel. At least that makes the most sense to me
Plus it would explain the thou art yet to become me because they both share a soul so reincarnating would merge them back together
well here i go 100% elden ring again XD
Great video dude! Always great to hear your thoughts and musings :)
*VattiVidya makes a massive mind map of all of the story in Elden Ring* Game Awards ragers: "ELDEN RING NOMINATED FOR BEST NARRATIVE? THERE ISN'T EVEN A STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
13:20 he goes big brain here
I would highly recommend checking out Vaati's video on 'The Lord of Frenzied Flame', it is arguably his best video to date and does a wonderful job of explaining one of the darkest storylines in Elden Ring, and on showing one of the best cut storylines in the whole game in regards to a certain santa like merchant.
i tried watching it.. i really like the frenzied flames stuff (im barely playing elden ring now) but some of the "voice acting" i dont like.. feels forced and takes me out of the emersion
i think the lobster theory is more valid than the knight theory
For me there are two kinds of fromsoft lore videos: The "what happened" ones and the "what does it mean" ones. Vaati is like the king of the first one. For the second an example would be this 1 hour video called "A Philosphical Analysis of Dark Souls". im interested in when we will get to that second stage of videos. Ratatoskr already made a good one for the flame of frenzy, conveying what its ideology and philosophy is.
VattiVidya, the Lutein of Souls
"Pretended to be a guy"
Radigon very clearly has his own wants and desires, even if he is just Marika's "alter"
Most people writing a story: beginning, middle, end.
Japanese game studio: middle, side story, beginning, more middle, filler, side story, side story, tangent, beginning, middle, second story, end, middle, another part, end? Middle.
Vaati is amazing. Another great video on Elden Ring was just done by the great unbiased Dovahhatty
why do i want to believe that the tarnashed long marsh is like seprate ways and everyone take their own way even horalouw and we went on going from demon soul dark soul worlds and came back to the land between to show off our skills xD
Man am I glad VaatiVidya exists. This guy and people like him are the reason Fromsoft's games have a lore. If it wasn't for their speculation based on the tiny bits of information we have on certain items, the community wouldn't know shit about how deep the lore can go
25:50 I think she's supposed to be like how a mother or father suddenly stops babying you and let you grow on your own knowing you will have to struggle to get there
what's the background music when you're talking? I know that song but I can't think of the name.. sounds like tycho but I can't remember.
please help me out someone!
and awesome video btw. I love your reactions.
If you're not careful Moongrum can completely decimate you. He can parry and he's VERY good at it.
32:57 my favorite theory so far as to why Melinia was fighting radahn despite both being fans of the golden order is the same as to why he froze the stars.
He knew the golden order was going to try and kill her due to her plans to enact a new age of stars…. As they done many many many many many times before with other potential replacements of merika.
So he froze the stars since they control destiny so that his sister renna would effectively be immortal and stay safe…. So they sent melinia to kill him…. She failed, and radahn will was strong enough to STILL hold the stars back.
the moral of the story
Ranni - U PICKED THE WRONG HOUSE FOOL ..
*steals fragment of death and things really pop off*
Ranni - dad wants to go leave to pick up milk..?! ight bet... watch this...
Maybe this Marika and Radagon is the same, its related to the Alchemy in metaphisic aspect and Jung's concept in individuality beyond Ego, ID and super ego. I remenber to read about animus and anima to understand persona and shadow.
there was a character named the gloam eyed queen who was a god of death and wielded a black flame
I think since the Golden Order couldn't defeat Caria, Marika would have seen fit to sent another version of herself to seduce the leader of her enemy. Her doing this and the events that followed allowed her victory by causing civil war within an undefeatable opponent. After this was accomplished, Radagon simply returned to his other self. This at least to me makes the most sense, as if you cannot defeat an enemy in combat, you defeat them politically or from within.
Marika and Radagon are the same for me, as she stated herself that: "O' Radagon, Leiall hound of the golden order, Thou yet to become me" and in the same sentence she also said: "Thou aren't yet to become a god, let us be shattered, Both, myne other self." This to me gives off 2 different theories. One theory of mine would point out that they are separate entities in the physical realm but harbors the same soul/spirit. They are born separate but had the path laid out for them way before to enact the greater will with a causality of the greater will as the path they were always going to walk forward to. This tells us that to some extend, all that has happened, was meant to happen, no matter where they ended up in the middle. Even as to the questioning and doubts of the golden order itself that Marika eventually succumb to.
Another Theory is that Marika and Radagon IS the same, and born as one or the other. Radagon's plot with rennala was probably a way to supplement and replace Godfrey when he became demotivated to keep fighting. Marika already realised this, as part of her able to see, not the future but to see causality play out. She knew that at some point, she will have to exile/banish Godfrey, thus splitting herself sometime before and chose the Lucarians to duke it out. It is not clear if Radagon was supposed to fall in love with Rennala, but with the theory of causality as a major factor, I would not be suprised. All of this was to do as what the greater will did, to find, not a vessel but vassal. A consort, a partner.
Anyway, it's probably wrong, but this is my firm belief until proven otherwise.
So the video is wrong about one thing that I noticed. The greater will did in fact create the lands between, the planet is resides on, and the whole universe and all within. The three fingers say as much, by stating that the greater will broke the one great, which the frenzied flame wishes to create again, all things being one. The greater will was either apart of this one great and is the most powerful god, thus its moniker.
There was life on the lands between, but no order. It sent the beast down to provide said order, though its not exactly picky about which order. Though one can surmise that it wasn't a fan of the golden order because Marika removed the rune of death. The greater wills designs include destined death, or it wouldn't be in the elder ring to begin with.
My theory is still Marika used something that is close to the Mimic Tear on herself, then used her male counterpart to trick Renella so she could win the war.
Vaati is our father of lore man's a legend as far as im concerned
i dont know if this true or not but people often forget that maliketh is also marika's half brother not just her shadow.
13:32 but you are beyond time… so death has no meaning… it’s why pleisudax the lich dragon is still alive.
i think radagon and marika are 2 different "entities" that occupy the same body like alters in DID, and because marika is a god her alter gains the ability to change their body
I think it's more of 1 soul, 2 entities, 2 bodies situation. Since radagon was with rennala in liurnia when Marika revoked Godfrey's grace in lleyndell.
@@glockenspiel604 marika revoked grace after all of that happen it was not at the same time at all
@@Mr_wisk turtle pope tells us that radagon left rennala in liurnia to go to the capital to become king consort when Marika exiled godfrey
@@glockenspiel604 i think that was a lie to keep the secret and the exile was after all of that and not during the war because godfrey still had worthy enemies to fight so the grace in his eyes did not fade at the time, even vati says that in the video that grace left godfrey when he had no more worthy enemies
@@Mr_wisk I'm not saying it was during the war I'm saying that radagon was married to rennala and living with her in liurnia when godfrey was exiled
"That's some Amber Heard stuff" LMFAOOO 💀
Very simply in maybe an archetypal manner (if that's the right word) the Golden Order reminds me of Christianity and more specifically the Catholic church and the Crucible reminds me of the Old Religions/Paganism, etc.
Hope he watches more of Vaati...
Radagon manipulated Queen Marika he's the villain here Godfrey should've stayed
Personally i think regarding player's death from maliketh rune of death is canonically player is too chad and end maliketh first try
to be honest.
I am not sure if you fought the carian knight in the academy on release, because fuck me, he was horrible to fight.
the dude would parry like 90% of your attacks and one-shot you. I think they patched it later on, since he now has successful parries less often.
Marika is basically a girlboss
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This lore is too involved
you're not listening if you're talking and you talk too much