NEW FROMSOFT PLAYER reacts to VaatiVidya's Elden Ring Lore Explained
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Lmao you have an uncanny ability to pause the video at the exact moment when your questions are being answered.
One of the things you asked that I don't think anyone's answered yet was "How does he know all this?" 2 ways. 1. Reading every single snippet of text written in the description of every single item in the game. 2. A little bit of reading the game files which is where we get some of the guesswork about Miquella. There''s stuff in the code that isn't used in the game (and so is not considered canon) but is still informative.
The way that some folks get a new weapon and go "oh cool sword" and then never look at it again? Vaati and Smough, and a few others, say "oh new sword, let's dissect the description text."
Thank you for explaining!
Yes it is essential text analysis like we learned in school (on Shakespeare or similar) applied to all text in Elden ring. And some supplementary material like interviews and art books.
He has corrected himself later that the Great Tree and the Erdtree are the same and that Miquella and Malenia were born before the Shattering. Also something he doesn’t say but is confirmed is Miquella is actually the older twin, which ironically makes Malenia the little sister.
Now I'm just imagining the "what do you have? A KNIFE!" Meme
@@robrib2682😂
I like how you said whoever wrote it should get a raise, because if you weren't aware, Fromsoft brought in George R.R. Martin (author of Game of Thrones) to write the lore and worldbuilding for the game
Specifically the background story but yes this is true. Miyazaki is a fan.
George just wrote the big family tree and a bit of background lore, he even said so in a talk-show interview. Miyazaki's team did the majority.
@@tiagoluis4739 Yep.
@@tiagoluis4739 Thank goodness!!!
@@tiagoluis4739 I noticed because of the incest(and selfcest?) and dragons.
A lot of Fromsoft lore comes from item descriptions, quest lines, environmental story telling, and A LOT of theory craft, think like an evidence board with a bunch of red strings tying everything together
Some people find the ancestry of the demigods and their names really confusing, but I find it makes it a lot easier. Rennala has an R name, and all of her offspring are R names, Ranni, Radahn, Rykard, then Godfrey is a G name and all of his descendants have G names, Godwin, Godrick, Godefroy, with the exception of the two disowned/Omen children who have M names like Marika; Mohg and Morgott. The other characters who are direct descendants of Marika and Radagon, so essentially just Marika, have M names too, Malenia, Miquella, and (likely) our girl Melina.
I agree that they make sense, they’re still easy to get confused tho!
and now probably Messmer as well
My personal interpretation in the Marika/Radagon thing is that it’s a reference to alchemy. Specifically the Rebis and the Marriage of the Red King and White Queen. In Alchemy the king and queen were originally one but taken apart through putrefaction and purification only to later merge together in perfect union forming the Rebis which is depicted as a divine hermaphrodite and the result produces the Philosophers Stone.
Very interesting theory, would be cool if that was true
God damn alchemists and their futa addiction
@@DarkMark-cf1ecdon't blame them blame the Greeks they were the first ones to do this
That's the beauty of FromSoft. The lore is hidden in the woodwork for anyone to find, and it's deep lore at that, but it isn't required for you to enjoy the game. It's just there for the people who want it.
For your question on 18:05 he just answered it. he says that some souls don't want to return to the tree so the bodies just stand up, that's why skeletons revive right there cause the souls stays in the body.
Gotta respect the stubbornness
You need to see Vaatis Age of the Duskborn video, it's his best in my opinion.
Family tree goes like this:
Marika + Godfrey = Godwyn, Morgott, Mohg
Radagon + Rennala = Ranni, Rykard, Radahn
Radagon + Marika = Miquella and Malenia
Godrick the Grafted is likely the grandchild of Godwyn, which would make him the great grand child of Marika. This is why he’s referred to as the weakest of his brethren
Melina is likely a sibling to Miquella and Malenia and it’s implied through various sources, but not 100% confirmed. Hopefully DLC will clear that up
I had no idea melina was involved in this family as well! Thank you for clarifying!
@@beckachuu There's pretty strong evidence in game that she's the 3rd sister.. Haven't played in a while, but I can remember of course the resemblance of the names, and that the 3 of them have these butterflies (item) linked to them, Malenia has the Aeonian ones, that in the description state that belonged to the Godess of Rot herself. Then Miquella has the Nascent butterfly that state in the description that "appears as if it's just emerged from its cocoon for its entire life" which was Miquella's affliction. And then the Smoldering butterflies are linked to Melina, I just can't remember the evidence for this in game, but I kind of remember being very confident about this link, so this might be stated somewhere.
@@Parafunkmelina exists to burn to be set aflame so the comparison to a burning butterfly is legit
Yeah, you should definitely react to more of VaatiVidya's Elden Ring lore videos, cause some of the topics he discussed here he has since revised, and as well he went into others with more depth.
And, yes, the lore goes *_Deep._* It's an iceberg, basically. And prepare yourself for Max0r. Rapid fire memes coming at you hot and ready.
Ooooh so some of the stuff vaati said here might not be 100% true? I‘ll keep that in mind thanks!!
Yup I recorded the max0r video already and I just sat there like O_O for the first 3 minutes or so lmaooo
@@beckachuu
Yeah, just some though, not all of them (as far as I can remember at least). Some he just changed his mind on due to new information and discovery, and others just need a more in-depth focus to better convey what he meant.
The GreatTree he mentioned, for example, the supposed previous Erdtree, he revised his explanation upon further thought and info-gathering; he even points out that he has since changed some things after making this video.
Max0r is rapid-fire highly-edited meme barrage that will just flood you with... stuff. So I'm looking forward to how you'd react.
@@jocosesonata interesting, I’m excited to dive deeper into their videos!!
@@beckachuu
And once you get to the other FromSoftware games, he's got content for you there as well.
@@beckachuu vaati has no idea what he's talking about. most of this video is wrong. he's always been bad at FromSoft lore, and is a main source of misinformation. a lot of his stuff is just directly stolen from other people, but when it's not, he gets most things wrong.
For Marika and Radagon being one and the same, I always use 2 analogies:
1. God analogy. Like, you have the Holy Spirit, Jesus and the Father - technically 3 different entities, but according to bible, they're the same existence.
2. Pain (from Naruto) analogy. There were 6 Paths, six bodies, but in the end all of them were the Pain, the god.
Since Marika, besides being a queen, sounds like this higher than life, godly figure, that's probably where the idea is from (christianity, not Naruto xD), if you ask me.
If you're down for more mindblowing discoveries from environmental storytelling that Fromsoft is famous for, I really recommend checking out Tarnished Achaeologist. He examines Elden ring architecture to tell its history as well as possible references to real history that the artists and writers used to make this world.
That sounds SO up my street. Thank you so much for the suggestion!
12:56 - "what does ET say, 'beep beep, spaaace'?" That quote made me laaaaaugh so hard, cuz I never saw that movie, actually, and that's a really funny adlib! :D
So many of the names of the Gods and Demi-Gods begin with one of George R.R. Martin's initials:
Godfrey, Godwyn, Greater Will
Radagon, Rennala, Ranni, Radahn, Rykard
Marika, Malenia, Morgott, Miquella, Mohg
Omg you need to watch the try not to cry videos from vaati they really properly flesh out the lore of the world..
You should watch other Vaati videos. Elden Ring lore is BIG and so much in depth.
Dark souls also has a lot of lore, but it is much more spread across other games so looking it up might be more confusing at first but later it shows how far it really goes.
Bloodborne is more compound similar to how Elden Ring is with its lore.
Interesting. I’m definitely gonna watch more videos, I already found some that sparked my interest. I’m also gonna dive into the dark souls lore once I actually get into the games, don’t wanna spoil things for me for now.
no one should watch any Vaati videos. he famously plagiarizes real creators, steals art, copies videos made by smaller channels, and gets everything wrong when he actually writes his own script. he knoes nothing about FromSoft lore.
its highly implied that malenia was used as a vessel by a god of rot, most who have scarlet rot die out, yet she didnt die,and u can see in her second phase shes called the goddess of rot.
Crazy how much of GRR Martin is in this game. You'll only really notice it after the fact. Not a GoT fan at all, but he did some insane work together with FromSoftware.
He's not though... he only wrote the family tree. The writing of the story was done by entirely different people
@@WHOMEGALULz Very wrong. GRR said himself FromSoft approached him and they wanted worldbuilding, lore and he wrote them a rather large backstory. Miyazaki himself said that they still have a lot of untouched stuff GRR wrote for them. Stop spreading false shit lol
@@stonaraptor8196 the lore is never mentioned in any of those articles. Me and you both know you added it just to fit your narrative lmao. He has said it multiple times that what he wrote was the world building side of the game, like the family tree and "mythology". That's entirely different to writing the actual story of the game. Myazaki in a Japanese interview that was translated by Forbes said "he’s (G.R.R.M) crafted a combination of a myth, historical fiction and an epic poem." You're giving credit for something someone else did, which in this case was who ever wrote the part where "Marika plucked the rune of death and gave it to Malikath, who is her shadow". Again, most of the actual story is written by Miyazaki and his team. GRR just wrote the foundation and helped with world building.
Edit: The parts that I see GRR in is when it comes to the family trees, specially with Marika and Radigon being the same person and essentially f***ing himself and having kids. Which again, goes back to the family tree and background info. Not the actual story
@@WHOMEGALULz Articles? I was talking about an interview with GRRM on CAMERA where he was talking about Elden Ring and it's pre-production. I don't know what forbes articles or whatever you are talking about, man himself explained it lol. He wrote the backstory, the worldbuilding and gave all that to FromSoft. They then made their own adjustments in typical FromSoft fashion. I really don't see what your issue here is. Can't be more clear than the guy saying how it is.
@stonaraptor8196 lol seeing you backtrack and not mention "lore" which is what I was trying to challenge you on proves my point. Not gonna waste my time any further on this. Have a good one
Ranni was the true villain of elden ring I'll be glad to explain why if someone wishes to know
Take my wife's name outta yo mouth!
how she is a villain because she killed godwyn :D age of stars ending is one of the best for the lands between
This Vaati video is pretty much outdated, so there is some serious missconceptions. The compreension of Elden Ring's lore has evolved a lot.
I would recomend watching Tarnished Arqueologist's videos, starting with the first one in his chanel, since they are almost at cronological order with ER's timeline.
Great reaction video 😊
I will check them out 100%!
Love the lore reactions, it truly is mind-blowing when like i did, you just stroll through the game without really reading item descriptions, and the environemental storytelling is incredible.
And please don't hesitate to pause rather than talk over the video, and to go back a little before pressing play again, there is so much info that you miss if you don't.
Thanks for the advice!
@@beckachuu Vaati lore videos are all really good and the prepare to cry videos are top tier, must see videos.
And to clarify some things, the night of the black knives and the assassination of Godwyn is Ranni's plot. Marika involvement is not proven, it is not impossible because she was meddling too, sending Godfrey and the tarnished on their path, and searching the depth of the golden order. But my interpretation is that the death of Godwyn pushed her over the edge, she was already fractured herself and proceeded to break the elden ring, while Radagon her other half tried to repair it.
Let's hope the DLC will answer some of these questions.
@@olajuwon-34 interesting theory, I’m super excited to see what the DLC gives us. Also I’ve heard a lot about the prepare to cry videos, super excited to check them out in the future!
I believed that FromSoftware community hate the most is when the reactor did not pay attention/talking to chat while live reaction when the video is explaining the lore. In your case you did not streaming ( i'm not sure you streaming or not when recording this) and you did a good job not chatting while the video is explaining. Its all good . We just want the reactor to pay attention to the lore 😁.
I wasn’t streaming this, recorded it purely for CZcams. I tried watching lore videos on stream once and I struggled to focus cause I kept getting distracted. I prefer keeping these things for youtube only!
@@beckachuu Gotcha ! Can't wait for more reaction then. Btw to answer your question on 37:15 is yes, its from the ingame. You need the Incantation Law of Regression in front of the statue to change it appearance .
for those of us playing fromsoft games from the beginning, vaati is the GOAT of lore. also has a unbelievably enjoyable voice to listen to.
Souls lore is always there for the people that wants to uncover it, its mostly item descriptions + enviromental storytelling + community discussion.
Great video ! I really recommend the videos on the lore of demigods explained and the Prepare to cry! They are amazing and very emotional.
Loved your reaction 💕
Radagon and Marika owe much of their character to alchemical concept of "Rebis" (Res Bina, latin for "Double matter"). The idea is that after creation of a great work of alchemy, union of the white queen (Marika) and the red king (Radagon) would create a perfect reconciliation of spirit and matter in a single body where male and female are pefectly alinged. But Radagon and Marika instead of a harmonious being are very much like quarrelsome couple who fight each other in every turn.
Godfrey is the only boss who acknowledges you and respects your strength,
Her: I hate him,
Bruh,
I can dislike the fight if I struggled with it even though I might like his backstory. Two different things :)
watch Vaatis video about the Frenzied Flame. its like a mini movie instead of being like a lesson like this video. it has beautiful cinematography from in-game. you'll love it.
Elden Ring and the Golden Order are an excellent example of the notion that ‘Truth/history’ is written by the victors’.
Even at the end of the main game, we don’t know if Radagon was Marika all along; if she Mimic’d him, or killed and replaced him at some point.
Also: Watch a Vaati and a Max0r video on the same topic 😂
This video is only the introduction to Elden Lore. Since then, Vaati has made so many lore video and there still more to be made. Even today there are many unsolved mysteries that will hopefully be answered in the dlc
6:40 most fromsoftware item descriptions are connected to the world in a bigger way and to each other, knowing what is connected to what is how you build up the bigger picture.
"Imma pronounce these wrong"
You pronounced their names perfectly, dont worry 😂
Hahah ez
It's amazing right?? Girl I recommend you watch the video again alone off camera to pay better attention to it by not having to comment on it for your own video ^^ it can be really hard to follow and some details are important to help you grasp most of the bigger picture
Of course it's complex worldbuilding. It has no right to be anything else. Gotta pay more attention or you'll miss it all. Which you did
If you're looking for the source of the information he speaks on, Vaati ALWAYS puts the source in the bottom of the screen. Usually an item or dialgoue quote.
Please just look at the center of the screen
idk if you have been told since this video came out but the person who helped write the story of elden ring was George RR Martin which wrote books like game of thrones.
It’s fun to watch ppls reactions to lore videos
37:20 yes, its the end of the goldmask questline.
Hey, nice reaction! I just found your channel via this video and I'm curious, which ending did you get?
Also I highly recommend Vaati's Prepare To Cry series on Elden Ring (the ones with "An Elden Ring Movie" in the title), because there will be a lot of incredible (and often heartbreaking) stories in the game that you would've missed. Max0r videos are fun, but if you want to learn about all the endings in the game, Vaati is in a league of his own. Hope to see more from you soon!
Thank you so much, I already have my eye on those elden ring movies from vaati!
GRR Martin is so hype that ppl are diving head first and neck deep into the lore. He loves writing this type of stuff
29:51 its believed Miquella is the center of the DLC, havent heard anything about Marika.
Vaati would appropriately be next after this one. But you could also watch other
Godwyn for the DLC
6:40 Item descriptions, dialogue, and a lot of personal speculation and interpretation.
Hey! Nice video, I can't wait for you to get to dark souls at some point, so you can watch the "Prepare to Cry" videos Vaati made some years ago
“You can’t be sad at Hogwarts. Okay!?”
“Ranni is an ICON.”
I love your takes, this is so funny 😂
It’s an eldritch god
Great vid! hope you react to his most recent Elden Ring movie: the Age of Stars😁
alot of video game lore are mind blowing and most of the souls game are one of those
s8:00 so in other words you did not read item descriptions, that explains a lot.
👌
Some of this is actually outdated now but most is the same
Yeah I’ve heard some is outdated. I still think the video is pretty well made and worth watching :)
Maliketh x Radagon.... Wow, takl about a Furry. xD
You messed up the name! Never forgive! never forget! but I forgot why I was mad so I forgive... Wait it was the name thing! Angry! ... I heard comments help with algorithm so I made this one.
I appreciate the forgetting and forgiving and also the algorithm push
OK but why does she call Marika malika though?
Cause brain go brr
@@beckachuu fair enough
Are you the pottery girl?
The what now?
While Vaati's videos are a great introduction to Elden Ring's lore, they're usually more focused on being cinematic, I think SmoughTown's videos are better for those who want to see all aspects of it dissected and I suggest you watch them if you are still interested after seeing these.
Oh you’re the first one to recommend me that channel. I’ll definitely check it out, thank you!!
So you feel bad for renalla getting left but not godfrey? Typical
Gtfo, Hoarah Loux was super cool.
Stopping the video is making everything boring. Take it slower and stop pausing the videos for you to just say “oh”
People are upset when I talk over the video but also if I pause it, what’s the point of reacting to it then lmao
@@beckachuu he's not saying to stop pausing and just talk. He's saying you don't have to constantly talk about every point that stimulates your brain and actually blaber every 5 seconds. Hence why he's saying to take it slow cause you're coming across super ADD and not letting the points vaati making settle, or pause and ask questions just before he's about to elaborate. You went through 6 minute of vaati and paused so much that your video is upto 12 minutes at that point...
@@beckachuu 20% of the pauses made sense while 80% of them felt you were doing it to "meet the word count" like pausing just to go "oh"
Why do you like Ranni? She's literally one of the most horrible people in elden ring
No she isn't
@@tejastakalkar7924 yes she is. She had Godwyn the Golden killed who was entirely innocent which in turn caused death blight to surge throughout the lands between and also caused the Shattering war to happen not to mention she doesn't "free" the lands between like people thinks she does all she did was replace Marika and replace one outer god with her Own not to mention she is the weakest demigod so she doesn't even do any of this on her own she manipulates people to do her bidding and lastly the fact she is fine with working with selivus who is an absolute scumbag so yes Ranni is evil
@@user-ve8yz1em5y then just kill Iji and Blaidd, that would piss her off
@tejastakalkar7924 a bit of a brain dead response mate
maxor is trash
dont bother
lol why don't you like max0r
😂
fyi *most of what vaati said in that video is wrong.* he's acknowledged that a lot of it is wrong, but it's still way worse than he realizes. he's also infamous for stealing artwork to use in his videos without permission, plagiarizing things other people wrote to use as his scripts, copying videos, taking brand deals without disclosing them, etc. just an all-around scumbag leeching off the FromSoft fandom for income. and he knows nothing about the lore. if you believed what he said in this video, you know LESS about the lore now than you did before you watched it.
Wow, stealing artwork ? really ? who really believed that btw 🤣
@@nominisan1995 believed? it's known fact. that one he doesn't even deny. he just lies about the other shit he got caught doing.
@@seratoxin3825 There is a time some people will be tired of this shit ( the shit that he does not even do anything wrong) and just want to get over it. Because people will keep coming to him no matter what he said. Vaati "of course" will not deny it just to satisfy people. He got a lot of other things to do rather than acknowledged this controversy. I'm gonna say that is very matured of him rather then denying everything.
@@nominisan1995 no lol, it's not mature, it would just be stupid to deny something that was so blatantly obvious. he was stealing art. there's no way to deny that. but he did stupidly deny other things that he obviously did. he's a liar, a content thief, and he knows nothing about fromsoft lore. the only reason he has followers is that he stole his content from better creators.
@@seratoxin3825 The thing is we all play the same game " Elden Ring" ( not just elden ring) of course some of the video content will be same/similar as other creators. When Vaati video got more popular than the other, other creators of course some will get jealous . Why ? Because the content is almost the same because they play the same game like the other people. Vaati got more popular/views because he knows how to make a good video. Other creators? Get good i guessed .
You hate every good boss
And no the dlc is not about Marika, its about Miquella.
My bad, got them mixed up