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You're supposed to do a reverse drift entry on the start
😂
Hahaha got me hard dude! 🤣👌🏾
It is nice to see your throttle and brake inputs
Would love to see some more GR 86 content in the future! Glad to see you’re enjoying the car and can’t wait for you to properly mod it for the track!👌
I have the BRZ version of this car, I have only been autocrossing in it. Pads, fluid, and RT660s make the car kind of silly to drive on the public roads. Thanks Misha, love that you are having fun in our zippy momentum car.
Just got RPF1's with RT660's for my GR. Going to be awesome.
i want to do the brakes in my one just to see what its like, could i do just some yellow stuff pads , metal lines and fluid ? is that very expensive? and if i dont really track the car is it a stupid idea? i understand what it would do to the feel of the brakes, like more grab , less fade and stiffer pedal but whats it like to daily?
@@goldtutch if you don't track, just get Counter Space Garage Street pads. Get fluid but lines are not needed.
@@autosenses2960 ok sounds logical
@@autosenses2960 Did you go straight from Michelin Primacies to the RT660s? Would love to hear about how it compares and if it's less or more fun with more grip. I'm thinking of switching to Pilot Sport 4S on RPF1s or Konig Hypergrams eventually.
The g meter is crazy if on point!
Ninja reflex @7:01 Misha! Impressive to see how fast you drive on these damp conditions. Keep it up, stay safe!
Looking very smooth, and quicker than you you would expect from such a modest powered car, what times do you think the standard GR86 could achieve on a single lap? Running my car in at the moment, have changed the wheels and tyres so far, semi forged and 10mm wider stickier road tyres, saving about 7kg unsprung weight, great video with the 3 camera view.
Sport Auto did 8:27 20.6 km lap, so about 7:57 BTG.
My guess is BTG in the 7:45ish range
I think a low 8min is possible with a good driver.
@@ethannicosia979not with the stock components/alignment
Whats BTG can someone tell me?
Really appreciate the multiple views especially the foot well. I use to always quick shift and jam it into gear. Seeing how deliberate you are when shifting is helping me be more smooth.
Glad you are enjoying the new car as we enjoy your content
Amazing driving as always. What a lovely machine to putter about!
So great that you can brake also with your clutch feet, when I do that I fly trough the window 😂😂
Left foot braking is certainly a hard skill to master at first. I remember doing it after I not long passed and nearly had a heart attack🤣
@@Tom3294. 😂😂
Extra points for when you switch from a manual to the exact same car as an auto. Happend to me when my car got a oil change, first time triggering ABS on a parking lot :`D
A lot of cars cut power as soon as you touch the brakes too, as a 'safety' measure. Kills left-foot braking. Even my 370Z did that. Thankfully not the Miata
@@Balhaarize don't use the entire left foot on the break. Try to anchor your heel on the floor so your butt does not slide off the seat. Misha said that in one of his videos. But also make sure there is not floor mats that could slide under the pedals and there are no cars behind you before trying it.
"Airport rental? nice choise for a car" has to be the best line in this video hahaha
Nice driving misha, its a joy seeing you enjoy it so much!
By the way, arent rental company's prohibiting people from using their cars on the ring?
Correct, but it does not stop people from doing it thinking they won't get caught.
These videos will serve as a good benchmark to see the progression from a stock to a fully moded car. Excited too see what you have in store. Some stickers are in order too.
Wow! Learning to left foot brake like that in a manual car must take a lot of practice.
Do you have a video to explain the basic why, when and how of left foot braking?
Would you only practice (or develop) that skill on track, or can it be done, safely, on road too?
Just started thinking about putting a Volvo T5 engine in some kind of early Type 86/BRZ. These films are really persuading me the chassis would be a winner. Love your driving btw.
maybe k20 /k24 turbo?? that would fly
I don’t have the core strength to left-foot brake without a harness, the braking forces take my body and right leg into the accelerator pedal haha…I suppose it helps keep the revs up 😂
I assume you're enjoying it so far? I feel like mine will benefit a lot from a bit of camber on the front, but it doesn't need much else to be really good. Brakes hold up well for me around the Welsh countryside, but I imagine you're getting a bit of fade at the Ring? Pads and fluid for sure, but also not sure if Toyota did any kind of brake cooling at all? My Bilstein coilovers go on in 5 days, as well as a wealth of other alignment bits from Whiteline, gonna be great to feel the difference.
I will be installing "small upgrades" after Easter before throwing on the "big stuff", to show that you can get far with basic upgrades too. My Bilstein shocks arrive mid May, curious to see what you'll think of them!
@@mgcharoudin I'll send you a DM on IG or something when I've had some time to try them out. I'm fitting B16s, just FYI. Forged wheels should be here in a few weeks, just struggling to decide on tyre size. Thinking about 225s to maintain the agility, do you know what you're doing with tyres yet?
Amazing video what a car what a drive
If it's even possible, what mods do you think it would need to go sub 8 min 20.6km? Alignment components, pads, fluid, and 200tw tires mainly, right? I have the Subaru version and absolutely love it so far, but I haven't tracked it or modified it very much. I've only put on camber bolts, a lighter clutch helper spring, and a lighter axleback exhaust, all of which I would recommend for a street oriented car. Would love to hear more about your plans and expectations for your car.
I am very curious what your over all take after the lap. It seems like brakes, suspension, possibly aero, gearing after power mods to match the gear to the track, and this thing will be extremely quick. I am extremely excited to see where this goes.
This car is very capable, and so are you as a driver, nice save! car seemed quite fast and grippy despite the mixed conditions
I finally got my 86 out on the road this year, hopefully I can convince some guys to go on a road trip with me this summer and go to a track.
GR86 has a G meter? I have only driven my car 2 days, still figuring out the gadgets. 😅
Could you please show the oil temperature next time? Maybe after the lap or so. Would be really interesting
I own a GTI but the gr86 it seems will teach me much more about driving
Nice lap, love watching you push the cars to the limits of their capabilities. It would be a nice comparison if you can do a lap in one of the new GR Supras aswell to show the overall differences in the platforms and their abilities.
Noticed the car has done over 1km before the lap. Assume you did a post run oil change? If so what did you go with? Most of the information out there suggests to go to a 5w30 or 5w40 for “heavy duty” use. Would also be cool to see what oil temps you seeing in the heavy load areas of the track like heading uphill after Bergwerk. Thank you!
I owned an FA20DIT Forester (yes, turbocharged version of the FA20 found in the predecessor - GT86) and I've read that 5W40 is the top viscosity as the oil channels are quite narrow, not suitable for W50 oils (I am just repeating what mechanics told me).
Acknowledging that FA20 was the "test version" of FA24 that's in the GR86 I would also be interested in what oil is recommended for it.
What a clean, smooth lap. Bravo!!
Would be interesting if you drive the gt86 and Gr86 back to back on track and compare them😊
Oh you are a gambler eh?! Dang brother, get some sunglasses for that evening glare! Loved the video, nice seeing input matrix.
There are often complaints about a lack of power, but honestly, the GR86 looks pretty quick under your control! It should be a fun car to drive on the Ring!
The only people complaining are the ones who haven't driven it. Super fun to drive (I have the current BRZ). People seem to forget the car is light too.
Will you try to get rid of that rev hang?
I m always impressed with the calmness of your steering inputs and forearms its a great skill...was that brake pedal long at the end???
Seems pretty good to me, maybe a brake pads and fluid upgrade, but I wouldn't change the dampers for a car that's mostly street driven. Put some PS4S on it and call it a day.
Edit: tune the rev hang out too! 😅
Weird question, but why are you using your left foot to break sometimes?? It looks awkward, but I'm sure there's a reason you keep switching? Awesome driving btw!
The car seems not powerful enough slow sections of the track especially when you held on 3rd gear. Also you told your previous videos that 6th gear is unnecessarily long. It is possible to lower fdr to make the car punch more or some positive displament supercharger to bump up all torque curve.
I'm sorry if you already mention if but are you running stock brake pads and brake oil ?
All stock so far.
The big question is:
What will Misha do to improve it? There as not much in the way of verbal clues in the lap.
What are the thoughts???🎉
The ring was nice ... but ... when does Maggi get her own helmet, and what will be the liverly?
I don't even have a livery on mine 🤣
@Misha Charoudin I don't know her other than the appearances on your channel, but I would go with Carbon helmet, and dual little pink pawprint racing stripes down the middle.
@@mgcharoudin how else are you supposed to increase your rep so you can participate in more underground street races and be feature in more magazines uh? 😅
@@mgcharoudin that's why you will need to surprise her with it!
GR was singing, Awesome lap Misha, love it
I love the foot work! :)
Am excited to see how this build turns out
Why is Misha's acceleration graph so asymmetrical? Is it the track, or is it the driver who doesn't push the limits on right verses left turns. I've followed many a person up a local canyon road who seem to only have turning in one direction mastered. Smooth one way, a series of bouncing between the lane markers on the other.
Only bad thing is the surface. I mean when you looking for the car's limit grip may be better with complete wet asphalt or completely dry for me. Mixed surface is very difficult to know how much grip the car really has. The good thing is you can run all season of the year 😂😂 so no problem in your case
lmfao the look you gave the camera after losing grip... 😂
Good video, waiting to see more content of the GR86.
In this video the car feels as slow as my GT86, maybe I need more km to develop its full potential 😅
My friend the limit of that car is the excessive rtv clogging the oil pickup. I'm glad I waited.
Nice smooth lap, after mods sub 8;00 if you boost power slightly 👀💥
Misha when are you going to do a track video impression with someone's ford focus RS mk3?
Een mooie avond op de Ring. Hoe gaat het met de ondernemers in het Ahr-dal 1,5 jaar na de overstroming? Ik was in augustus in Mayschoss en de schade was nog zo aanwezig. Misschien een videosuggestie voor Ring-bezoekers.
Could have whipped a handbrake turn to honor the fallen hero Ken Block at the start.
I suck at those
Could you do a hot lap with oem mk8gti dsg maybe just sticky tires change?
Enjoyed the lap with my coffee. ☕️
if you want people to pay attention to this car wrap it yellow or red (obviously trueno blue is the best color just not for thumbnails of giveaway cars)
Great car Misha. The Japan buildings have great quality AND durability.
I'm expecting abuot the upgrades !
Grats!
It would be so much better if we could have the screen with the temperatures !!
nice drive, i assume its early in the morning? u drive really concentrated and mad on a wet track, i would shit in my pants, doing this... im not even trying tbh ^^...
really love how beautiful the track looks in dawn, stunning when the sun shines through the trees, big downside, u get blinded so hard..
Be careful, don't crash that car! ;-)
Showing plenty of skill Misha! Were is the GT2 RS MR?
In storage I believe
Nice driving dude that looks like one fun car. Enjoyed it subbed & upped.
Thanks!
THANK YOU!
Misha I notice you havent turn off the hill climb assist, is the car on a ramp symbol, the owner manual shows you how to do it
Mooi rondje!
Now thats the definition of FULL SEND !
Why not give as lap times, anyway
Looks to rotate nicely.
Looking forward to this one
Stock.. what would you rather track.. i30N or GR86? and why?
You're manual skills have improved a lot 👍 Remember videos in the Yaris watching you clutch in while still on throttle and underblipping heel toes. Really none of that here!
Oh yess
Good video
Any issues with the oil pressure?
Low oil pressure ?.
Yeah man. Very nice. Just a little wobble. All good. ✌👍
GR86 predictably loose though suspension just tight enough to fairly easily correct with amount of horsepower and speed it can carry. Good job with all the wet spots!
And What was your impression or thoughts..... I'm about to hop on my fancy-ass 3 axis sim and hit Nürburgring on iRacing with GR86 and want some unfair advantage from just watching yoU ~ LOL. I purposely watched your video on my movie theater TV to no avail ~~
Every week the cones get more difficult, must be Colin McRae's rally school
Imagine this......a toyota 86 with complete celica 4x4 complete engine.........and the whole under pinnings........I DO know a company in Leicester, England would do it.......and it will be the best and fastest 86 on the ring
This car…you can just keep doing videos of it 😍
Man I love the stock sound of the car is already great, I can't wait for the upgrades ^^!
If it isn't already removed from inside, then you only hear the speaker which is presented in these cars if I'm not mistaking.
That fake engine sound is terrible, what do you mean "great" 😂
Love to see you in the new Nissan Z on the ring.
New Z isn't available in Germany/ Europe, highly doubt it's gonna happen.
Nice driving dude
I've made a lap with the Gapped GR86 in Assetto Corsa, if you are an Assetto Corsa fan, you can watch it here: czcams.com/video/ZKdBZ0LdSs0/video.html I hope you enjoy it!
Just took a second to pay attention to the beautiful weather and views of the track. Nice lap!
hi Misha, as you're aproaching the curent limit of the car and are planning on improving the car, how are you gonna messure the succes rate of the improvements? as you dont promote/ publish the lap times? have a great weekend !
By measuring relevant values such as braking performance, corner entry/exit speeds etc.
@@mgcharoudin
obviously the right aswer :D i just hope to "see" the differance
Миша, как впечатления от автомобиля? Ракурс с перегазовкой 👍🏻
youre an amazing driver!
Lovely video
@mgcharoudin How hot did oil / coolant get during that lap? Is the cooling system still OEM?
How often is the track this empty?
🔮 usually before May and after September
Why are the cones there at the start of the track in the first place??
What tyres where you running here?
still on ps4s right? , hey looks like a great platform to start with!
please add lap times OEM
not allowed to record
@@anyau really? i did not know. why?
Is this on stock brake pads and fluid?
Car looks really fun.
I haven't seen you do a lap without TC or in Track Mode in this car. No need??
I am curious what this car can do when it is modified 🚀
Misha, your biceps is outgrowing your shirts. ^^
I'd like to see a Misha comparo of the BRZ to the GR86. The day after mine arrived last December (ordered the prior May) we got snow...almost time to change back to the Summer tires here in the Mid Hudson Region of NY. Alignment soon...wondering how much negative camber I can get up front with the stock suspension (I've heard not much).
Awesome lap bro... Whatever you do on the GR86 you gonna be limited by low power! I can wait to see you again driving the M240i xDrive, last time it was amazing and the car was OEM. lolll
Micha, you own this track.....
Your face when the sun hits it 😂😂
Good lap, but what in the world is going on with that engine sound? Is that fake audio? Or why does it sound so horrible? I could never drive a car without an interesting engine.
Would love to see you get behind the wheel of an AE86 if possible 😂