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Komentáře • 594

  • @Xind0898
    @Xind0898 Před 18 dny +59

    The thing about 'forced' labour in China is, the cost of 'forcing' them and making sure there is no unrest, and also stay under the rader of the mass media is actually higher than just paying for a fair labour.
    so it just doesnt make economic sense to 'force labour' anything in China

    • @richardchiu3305
      @richardchiu3305 Před 18 dny

      The funny thing is, so many people outside of China "Know" there is force labor going on in China. But the Chinese who are being "Force" to slave and produce all these cheap products don't seem to know that. Chinese must be really that dumb and easily controlled, there must be no 5G, no internet, and Chinese must don't know how to read or never travel abroad to know the difference.

    • @mnhsty
      @mnhsty Před 18 dny +5

      It’s not about saving money. It’s about internal security.

    • @kaikboy1388
      @kaikboy1388 Před 18 dny +14

      Forced labour 🤣 … aren’t we all, my friend

    • @AtomicHermit
      @AtomicHermit Před 18 dny

      The idea that China has "slave labor" is American propagande.

    • @ristekostadinov2820
      @ristekostadinov2820 Před 18 dny +10

      Making solar panel is not an easy task, prison labor in general is used for simpler tasks (like harvesting crops). If the workers are untrained (or putting the bare minimum) the defect rate will be high and solar panels ain't cheap.

  • @RickDenzien
    @RickDenzien Před 18 dny +87

    All we need at our home is 12 more panels to be off-grid in December. Solar + battery backup keeps us off the grid most of the time. I can already see the super power kicking in, keeping our studios & home nice and cool over the summer, plus charging 2 Tesla Model 3 EVs.

    • @tireddad6541
      @tireddad6541 Před 18 dny +1

      Nice. We don't have enough room.

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 Před 18 dny +2

      👍🏻

    • @kaf2303
      @kaf2303 Před 18 dny +4

      Well done! I am supplying power to my house and 5 other houses.
      May your energy independence come very soon!

    • @PyroShields
      @PyroShields Před 18 dny +1

      How many panels do you have so far and how many watts per panel?

    • @mrsrhardy
      @mrsrhardy Před 18 dny

      @@tireddad6541 Everyone has room as its called UNDERGROUND... Not everything needs to take up living space!

  • @rockychan4739
    @rockychan4739 Před 18 dny +73

    About force labour, i suggest you visit to Xinjiang, see for yourself if it exists. The word "probably" can project a negative image when its far from the truth.

    • @davidmaxwaterman
      @davidmaxwaterman Před 18 dny

      Yup, I've been there...no sign of any such thing. So many others have been too, and really dug around. It's all USA BS, as usual - typical CIA nonsense, as was the terrorism.

    • @OneEyedMonkey9000
      @OneEyedMonkey9000 Před 16 dny +3

      It’s as fictional as Superman

    • @loathgoogel2703
      @loathgoogel2703 Před 16 dny +1

      "Probably" relates only to whether forced labour is used for this particular function. Its existence in general in China is a matter of simple, uncontrovertible fact. Visit Xinjiang? I have, but only Urumqi, but that, dominated by Han transmigration, is not representative of Xinjiang, and that was fifteen or more years ago. I wouldn't even bother asking for permission today; and of course an Intourist style, CCP-approved guided tour would be of no interest. China is making great strides with renewable energy - no denying that; and the PRC has, from the outset, been a vicious, murderous, internationally subversive, fascist dictatorship - sometimes a bit more lenient, sometimes (and now) more draconian - no denying that. Contradiction? Well, as they say, Mussolini got the trains running on time.

    • @budisuwandhi6818
      @budisuwandhi6818 Před 8 dny

      ​@@loathgoogel2703What you describe are all that USA have been done all over the world in Afghanistan, Iraq , Syria , Libya, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Korea , you name it tenth of million lives have been taking away by force , most of that without any just cause only because USA need to or want to do it.

    • @swaggerpinto9777
      @swaggerpinto9777 Před 6 dny

      @@loathgoogel2703 meh

  • @bigeye4520
    @bigeye4520 Před 17 dny +8

    I was finally able to retire a year ago after 40+ years being “force-labored” on a manufacturing job. What a world change of life without the shackle of daily grind. We should all be liberated from “forced labor” and enjoy real life.

  • @sleepyjoe4529
    @sleepyjoe4529 Před 18 dny +38

    Well done China

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss Před 18 dny

      Forced to be done really, who is going to buy anything from China?

    • @PyroShields
      @PyroShields Před 18 dny

      @@tedmoss Everything is made in China.

    • @linphilip6389
      @linphilip6389 Před 18 dny +9

      ​@@tedmosseveryone is. don't be a hypocrit.

    • @DK-ev9dg
      @DK-ev9dg Před 18 dny +7

      ​@@tedmossanother clown

    • @suanhak
      @suanhak Před 18 dny

      ​@@tedmoss why don't you throw away anything from China in your house. Talk is cheap . Go and fly kite. Oops that kite is make in China

  • @larryevans6739
    @larryevans6739 Před 18 dny +23

    5:55 Crystaline silicon is what what most Chinese solar panels use. It is more expensive in the US because of protectionist measures against China. The top selling US-made utility scale solar panels (First Solar) are less efficient thin film panels, using the heavy metal Cadmium and the rare earth element metaloid Tellurium... which have environmental concerns.

    • @user-ex2yt6rw3k
      @user-ex2yt6rw3k Před 16 dny

      'Telluride' is not a 'rare earth' metal, but a term denoting a compound containing Tellurium. Evidently you are doubly confused. Tellurium - the actual element - is furthermore a semi-metal aka 'metalloid'. not a metal.

    • @larryevans6739
      @larryevans6739 Před 15 dny +1

      @@user-ex2yt6rw3k Good catches, I was a bit sloppy. Corrected.

    • @user-ex2yt6rw3k
      @user-ex2yt6rw3k Před 15 dny

      @@larryevans6739 So much nicer a response than say EV's typical totally ignoring any of the many correctives that come his way!

  • @benjaminchen5715
    @benjaminchen5715 Před 18 dny +59

    Forced labor is something you find in old Indiana Jones movies. Nowadays, common sense tells us that subjecting someone to work yields little productivity. Instead, paying them a decent wage and providing motivation fosters a mutually beneficial situation. They, in turn, have money to spend, creating a win-win scenario for everyone involved. The Uighurs in Xinjiang are regular, intelligent human beings like every other Chinese. Accusing them of being subjected to forced labor would be unfair.

  • @WalkOverHotCoal
    @WalkOverHotCoal Před 17 dny +26

    While I have always enjoy Electric Viking's videos because they can be informative, and not main stream like the official propaganda websites of various governments. The fact that Xinjiang is mentioned, I was waiting with bated breath to see if Electric Viking would eventually follow the the "official propaganda" of western countries, that "forced labour is used in Xinjiang".
    While the accusations just might be true. But if you are unsure, why cheapen your work by regurgitating the lines propagated by people with ulterior motives?
    Anyone who knows about technologies is aware that forced labour, or casual unskilled labour aren't cut out for such highly skilled jobs. So why waste your reputation to even contemplate repeating it?

    • @johnwayne8475
      @johnwayne8475 Před 17 dny

      The comment displays a complete lack of basic common sense that it's impossible to produce a project like this using forced unskilled labour.

  • @DynamicUnreal
    @DynamicUnreal Před 17 dny +4

    In the country I was born in (Dominican Republic) - the electric companies were trying to lobby the government to restrict/ban solar panels because their popularity had increased to 3% of all energy produced and apparently that was enough for them to incur drops in profit.
    If even a smaller developing Caribbean country has begun the solar energy revolution, it means that the coming decade will see huge sweeping changes worldwide as the power of solar continues to drop.

  • @mikef888au1
    @mikef888au1 Před 18 dny +5

    Thanks Sam for all the up to date news on solar installations. Can't wait for your next report on the 15 biggest solar farms in the world.

  • @ivyshy98
    @ivyshy98 Před 18 dny +60

    the manufacturing of polysilicon is extremely technical. force labor propaganda by usa might be more plausible for cotton pickers, but not for the skilled labor required in polysilicon production. even for cotton picking, this isn't the 1800s. look at where china today. read john deere's earnings reports. uyghur farmers bought a boatload of john deere cotton harvesting tractors so check videos on how things are actually done nowadays. the only people hurt by us sanctions are uyghurs because now they can't sell their stuff on the international market, but that's exactly the goal of sanctions, to cause unrest in a targeted region. it's so easy to pick apart all these western propaganda claims if you spend just a couple minutes looking at alternative sources then deciding which makes more sense. you seem like a smart sensible guy so I hope you can make a trip to china and see things for yourself to separate fact from propaganda. we don't need another war and the us is buttering up people to be accepting of another one.

    • @kamsunleong6648
      @kamsunleong6648 Před 18 dny +8

      Having a regular job in China,especially Xinjiang is termed as forced labour. Iyghers are not allowed to work in any industry except maybe making their own handicrafts and food for sale to tourists. This maybe acceptable as not forced, by western governments.

    • @kaiki8490
      @kaiki8490 Před 18 dny

      China cotton harvesting machines are now cheaper, better and safer(cotton catches fire easily).
      The forced labor story is in part revenge by John deere to attack china made cotton machines

    • @blcheah2672
      @blcheah2672 Před 17 dny

      @@kamsunleong6648 That's what the West wants.
      The West does not want Uyghurs (or any Central Asians) to be rich and happy. They want them to be poor and discontent and unstable.

    • @WalkOverHotCoal
      @WalkOverHotCoal Před 17 dny

      @@kamsunleong6648 Thar is most helpful to know that "...Uighers are not allowed to work in any industry except maybe making their own handicrafts and food for sale to tourists"
      But why then China went through so much trouble, with constant accusations of "forced labour training camps". Are the Uighurs taught to just do what you just described? Does "...making their own handicrafts and food for sale to tourists" require so much training ?

    • @luklauw
      @luklauw Před 17 dny +6

      ​@WalkOverHotCoal the training they did, with so much trouble caused by western governments, was for deradicalization program. Aside from being freed from religious dogma, they were taught skills. This approach was way much better than the US's in Afghanistan, i.e. using ammunition.

  • @WANDERER0070
    @WANDERER0070 Před 18 dny +22

    Sam go visit China and Xinjiang to see whats it really like instead of paroting western fake noise ❤ 😂

  • @manhaysit
    @manhaysit Před 18 dny +21

    All workers are forced to work because they need money to live. So, forced labour is happened all over the world.

    • @changshu6463
      @changshu6463 Před 18 dny +3

      Its name is capitalism

    • @cxv6367
      @cxv6367 Před 18 dny +1

      Dole

    • @ralphzoombeenie2330
      @ralphzoombeenie2330 Před 17 dny +1

      If you want a real example of forced labor then look at the use of US prison labor.

    • @thisisnumber0
      @thisisnumber0 Před 17 dny

      Forced labour is working where and when you are ordered to, regardless of what you want to do.
      Big difference.

  • @rayleeaustralia
    @rayleeaustralia Před 16 dny +3

    I don’t know why Australia is nor embracing this technology. The amount of sun there’s in the middle of no where is enough to power every city, town twice. The government makes so many poor decisions

  • @mariogirod6195
    @mariogirod6195 Před 18 dny +3

    Solar farms makes sense if you have vast relatively barren land areas. If you have more densely populated countries or valuable biodivers land it is more important to have multi use concepts for solar energy production. This includes the classics like rooftop solar or (now mandatory in France) solar roofs for car parking. Additionally you need newer concepts like solar covered chanals and agrovoltaic.(the cimbinatin of solar and farming)

  • @PD55_
    @PD55_ Před 18 dny +16

    Awesome technology milestone, but imagine the imminent real effect on the standard of living where energy is essentially free, unlimited, and clean, powering their society for generations to come. Mind blowing. Why not the rest of us?

    • @lucadellasciucca967
      @lucadellasciucca967 Před 18 dny +4

      it is inevitable everywhere.

    • @chillfluencer
      @chillfluencer Před 18 dny +3

      If energy is basically free that also has an impact on the products and homes that are being built using electricity.

    • @spiritedgarage
      @spiritedgarage Před 18 dny +1

      Because capitalism

    • @PD55_
      @PD55_ Před 18 dny

      @@spiritedgarage true anything free for everyone must be communism therefore evil, only free market ownership can save us

    • @oldbloke204
      @oldbloke204 Před 18 dny +1

      Never going to happen.

  • @axscdvfb
    @axscdvfb Před 17 dny +3

    Solar panels in the desert can lower the surface temperature and cast shadows. Maybe they can trap moisture as well, so that some plants can grow there and absorb more CO2.

  • @jkselama9715
    @jkselama9715 Před 18 dny +99

    You might want to show some proofs on the forced labor part of the story if you are going to comment on it.

    • @AllDogsAreGoodDogs
      @AllDogsAreGoodDogs Před 18 dny

      Why doesn't the CCP open Xinjiang (?sp?) to tourism? What are they trying to hide?

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss Před 18 dny +10

      Almost all labor in China is forced labor, that's why what we buy is so inexpensive. We will be making everything ourselves soon since we will have lots of solar power to use to run the automated factories which will make the Chinese redundant.

    • @pietersteenkamp5241
      @pietersteenkamp5241 Před 18 dny

      @@tedmoss No more forced than any labor in a capitalist economy which will let you starve if you don't work for a corporation or earn your keep by doing what you are told.

    • @PyroShields
      @PyroShields Před 18 dny +12

      He mentioned we don't know if there is any truth to it.

    • @ronz7046
      @ronz7046 Před 18 dny

      @@tedmoss well said .

  • @peter1448
    @peter1448 Před 17 dny +3

    A reported correction from Reuters directly suggests it's only 3.5 GW over 33,000 acres, so that would be 1/6 th of the size, still with 6.1 TWh annual
    200,000 acres is ~809 km2, which is ~0.01% of Australia's total land area of 7 656 127 km2
    Urban footprint is ~0.34% of our land area, our cities are 34 times that land area, rural residential and infrastructure is ~0.29%, so ~29 times more, via State of Env report
    Native forests we destroy for mostly woodchips ~0.91%, might have reduced in Vic now
    Plantation timber is a ~0.34%, same as our urban footprint
    Grazing on native plants and grass lands is almost 50% of total land area
    If it's 33,000 acres that is ~133.5 km2 which is ~0.0017% of Australia land area
    In comparison to most other land use in Australia that would really be pretty insignificant and small area. Mining and waste is already way bigger than that at 0.17%, 100 times more.

  • @tireddad6541
    @tireddad6541 Před 18 dny +50

    Sheep are apparently a good win win for solar farms

    • @mrmawson2438
      @mrmawson2438 Před 18 dny +3

      Good for the farmers too

    • @douglascutler1037
      @douglascutler1037 Před 18 dny +9

      Goats chew the cables and cows rub against the installations. But sheep work great. They love shelter from sun and rain plus partial shade allows for a greater variety of plant growth and a better diet.

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 Před 18 dny +1

      Cows too

    • @cedriclynch
      @cedriclynch Před 18 dny +2

      The sheep also stop any plants getting tall enough to cast shadows on the solar panels, which can be a serious problem with ground-mounted systems. Remember those photos 10 years ago of a solar farm being opened in Germany, and of it a year or two later with weeds shading most of the panels?

    • @douglascutler1037
      @douglascutler1037 Před 17 dny +1

      Here's yet another agrivoltaics bonus. It helps preserve pollinators! Wow, hard to argue against that in rural areas.

  • @boettcherbobby
    @boettcherbobby Před 18 dny +12

    Renewables are great but ... In the past 10 years, more than 34 gigawatts (GW) of nuclear power capacity were added in China, bringing the country's number of operating nuclear reactors to 55 with a total net capacity of 53.2 GW as of April 2024. An additional 23 reactors are under construction in China.

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss Před 18 dny +5

      This sounds reasonable, what's the problem?

    • @pietersteenkamp5241
      @pietersteenkamp5241 Před 18 dny

      They are doing everything as they will need all the energy they can produce. It makes no sense not to build nuclear when you will never have enough for decades to come.

    • @paladintrueknight
      @paladintrueknight Před 18 dny +7

      Great, nuclear power is awesome and green!

    • @elephantintheroom5678
      @elephantintheroom5678 Před 18 dny +2

      @@paladintrueknight It creates deadly poisonous waste, you mean. With no real way of disposing of it. And I'm talking about the stuff left over AFTER the recycling.

    • @moriumakhter2424
      @moriumakhter2424 Před 18 dny +2

      ​@@elephantintheroom5678 don't worry, China has enough STEM graduates, they will find a smart solution for that.

  • @thomasruwart1722
    @thomasruwart1722 Před 17 dny +3

    The images with the bright tower in the middle is not a solar farm per se. They are actually called Heliostat Power Plants or Concentrated Solar Power system. The panels around the tower are not solar panels. They are movable mirrors focusing the sun on the top of the tower to generate heat. If memory serves me, that heat is used to make molten salt that is later used to power steam generators during the night.
    AFAIK the ones you showed are not in China. The ones that I am aware of are in California, Spain, Israel, France, and Germany although China may have one too.

  • @mnhsty
    @mnhsty Před 18 dny +21

    China is going to green manufacturing fast, and what does the US do? We slap ridiculous tariffs on Chinese goods.

    • @marlan5470
      @marlan5470 Před 16 dny +2

      Worse: does nothing to shift what manufacturing it has left into things like batteries, solar panels, etc.

  • @ronaldronald8819
    @ronaldronald8819 Před 18 dny +5

    We have to many b#l$hit-artist running the place. We should be leading the energy transition and making money doing so. We are shamefully far behind.

    • @robertfonovic3551
      @robertfonovic3551 Před 18 dny

      Who are "we" ?

    • @davidinkster1296
      @davidinkster1296 Před 17 dny

      @@robertfonovic3551 Australia. We have the resources but our politicians seem either reluctant or bitterly opposed to change.

  • @peteinwisconsin2496
    @peteinwisconsin2496 Před 17 dny +2

    Aspiring to build the largest solar farms is missing the point of solar energy. Putting all the panels in one area exposes too much of the capacity to overcast skies and weather disasters. Sunshine is available everywhere. Build solar farms at least somewhat close to where the electricity is needed and connect them together to accommodate clouds and other bad weather.

  • @gljames24
    @gljames24 Před 18 dny +2

    They also put in a pretty big Sodium Ion BESS that will scale to 100MW capacitance.

  • @manwingchi9156
    @manwingchi9156 Před 18 dny +7

    Go to Australia Farm, you will find force labour, in order to pay their debts or snakes head, illegal workers pay nothing to work. That been a fact, Australian just don’t want to know. 😮😮😮😮

  • @thevanchung7568
    @thevanchung7568 Před 18 dny +4

    We have deserts in Australia. Why not make use of them?

    • @garylee9668
      @garylee9668 Před 18 dny +1

      Australia has too many natural resources such as gas, coal , iron ore etc. they don't have lots of people , there is no need to build solar panels.

    • @sinoleao
      @sinoleao Před 18 dny

      BZ Aus follows US National Security Policy, lol

    • @jxmai7687
      @jxmai7687 Před 17 dny

      Many Australians don't care. there are lots of roof top still without solar panel installed.

  • @publicdomain1103
    @publicdomain1103 Před 18 dny +2

    Dark surface albedo effect ( heat transfer) and more land covered as such will require the mandate of reflective surfaces to offset. Or other solar management.

  • @PyroShields
    @PyroShields Před 18 dny +3

    Did he say the solar farm is big enough to power every house in China? If so that is quite an accomplishment!

    • @user-nr4cq2eh4h
      @user-nr4cq2eh4h Před 18 dny +1

      I think he said that if every solar farm on the planet were added up it would be enough to power all of the homes in China.

    • @DK-ev9dg
      @DK-ev9dg Před 18 dny +1

      ​@@user-nr4cq2eh4h80% are in china

  • @philipdamask2279
    @philipdamask2279 Před 16 dny

    Do not forget that 2/3 of the installed solar panels are needed to supply the batteries needed to supply power when the sun goes down.

  • @user-uw4ch8qr5e
    @user-uw4ch8qr5e Před 18 dny +3

    I always love your content. I would note that the inclusion of Crescent Dunes Solar Energy Facility in Nevada, US (molten salt heated with reflector mirrors) went bankrupt and its future is questionable. I wish it were otherwise.

  • @RickDenzien
    @RickDenzien Před 16 dny

    ​@GreenDriveIndia we are adding 12 more panels to an existing system. I've been updating since 2016. In our case, we need to get another 1000 - 2000 watts and we will continue to run everything zero emission on the worst solar day of our year.

  • @richardchiu3305
    @richardchiu3305 Před 18 dny +10

    China has done a great job solving some of the most complex problems human faces. Climate change - well on its way to meet goals. Population - well managed. Poverty - eliminated. Infrastructure - world leading. Space exploration - great advancement. American talk a good talk, but the Chinese government would rather walk a good walk.

    • @brandonlee93
      @brandonlee93 Před 18 dny

      Population well managed, poverty eliminated? Umm, no. And they’re still the world’s biggest polluter.

    • @HablaCarnage63
      @HablaCarnage63 Před 17 dny

      Well they’ve definitely solved the overpopulation problem. But I’m sure whoever (robots or perhaps clones) takes over the land when the Han disappear, will appreciate having to maintain a very expensive and expansive and wonderful infrastructure.

    • @scottthompson5855
      @scottthompson5855 Před 17 dny +1

      Pure propaganda in this post.

    • @MrSteeDoo
      @MrSteeDoo Před 17 dny +1

      And their one child policy has left them in a state of demographic collapse.

    • @conradfuller6697
      @conradfuller6697 Před 8 dny

      I wonder why so many Chinese move to the west if China is such a ‘paradise’?

  • @davidkendall2272
    @davidkendall2272 Před 17 dny

    Thanks Sam for doing these renewable energy stories. Much appreciated and always worth watching. Excellent reporting!

  • @mikestone2740
    @mikestone2740 Před 18 dny +3

    I guess the Chinese have stopped building coal ?!

    • @garylee9668
      @garylee9668 Před 18 dny +1

      China needs so much energy that they have to depend on coal for now.

  • @JorgeLausell
    @JorgeLausell Před 18 dny +3

    And they are working on ultra high voltage dc!

    • @ralphzoombeenie2330
      @ralphzoombeenie2330 Před 17 dny +1

      I read the long distance transmission lines operate around 1 million volts.

    • @JorgeLausell
      @JorgeLausell Před 17 dny

      @@ralphzoombeenie2330 Hey thanks, yeah!
      Another technology that China is scooting ahead on! Geeze!

  • @rhettoracle9679
    @rhettoracle9679 Před 18 dny +3

    Just replaced one of my solar panels after a small windstorm. Renewable no doubt. Hmm

    • @budawang77
      @budawang77 Před 18 dny +4

      My panels survived a Category 4 tropical cyclone so you should check how yours have been installed.

  • @rose415
    @rose415 Před 18 dny +1

    great update

  • @vasthefox
    @vasthefox Před 18 dny +3

    Very interesting, thanks

  • @levinanji9649
    @levinanji9649 Před 17 dny

    Solar is good. But the problem is getting it where it is needed when it is needed. For China, that may not be a problem due to UHVDC, but it is a problem for other countries

  • @garyrooksby
    @garyrooksby Před 18 dny +5

    Great vid, Sam

    • @DK-ev9dg
      @DK-ev9dg Před 18 dny

      Anti China propaganda by this loser

  • @Leafbinder
    @Leafbinder Před 18 dny +1

    Great video Sam have a great weekend.

  • @JorgTheElder
    @JorgTheElder Před 18 dny +3

    Saying how many cars it could power a year is worthless information unless you state how much power / how many miles those cars are driven. In the US, the average person drives less than 30 miles a day. Seems like a lot more EVs owned by those mythical average people could be powered by that farm than 2 million.

  • @suanhak
    @suanhak Před 18 dny +7

    Sam..... what is this forced labour about? You have any proof or you are also singing Murdoch's tune ?

    • @tomroughan9995
      @tomroughan9995 Před 17 dny +1

      Sam doesn't research anything, he just hears something and runs with it

    • @johnwayne8475
      @johnwayne8475 Před 17 dny

      It's like saying, I heard there's a genocide happening in Gaza but no body knows what's really going on.

  • @ChicagoBob123
    @ChicagoBob123 Před 18 dny +3

    We don't manufacture the panels and our space costs money.. Solar roofs in the US are slowly leading the way but are still costly.

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss Před 18 dny

      What is your definition of costly? I have mine.

    • @ChicagoBob123
      @ChicagoBob123 Před 18 dny +1

      @@tedmoss currently 20 to 30k. For something that lasts 10 years it's costly

    • @ronaldking1054
      @ronaldking1054 Před 18 dny +2

      @@ChicagoBob123 Yes, 25-year warranties are put on things that last 10 years.

    • @garylee9668
      @garylee9668 Před 18 dny +1

      @@tedmoss my neighbor got one, more than $70k.

    • @rodneyblackwell7477
      @rodneyblackwell7477 Před 18 dny +2

      I got a 7 kw system in Australia for USD$4600 with no govt subsidy. From what I see on line US is far more expensive

  • @sanjuansteve
    @sanjuansteve Před 18 dny +2

    Large scale renewable energy projects are great, but they tend to make billionaires more billions.
    Solar panels on every home, business and covered parking rooftop however empower everyone as their own power generation owners. There's no comparison.

    • @universeisundernoobligatio3283
      @universeisundernoobligatio3283 Před 18 dny

      Billionaires have the money to build large solar farms at scale for the lowest cost and least resource usage. Home solar is far more expensive per kW and do the home owners have the money to install. I installed my own solar system and know the costs.

  • @antoniopalmero4063
    @antoniopalmero4063 Před 17 dny +1

    All labour is forced in one way or another .

  • @aplund
    @aplund Před 9 dny

    "Billion kilowatt-hours" seems like an abuse of the metric system. Terawatt-hours is better, but why we dont measure energy in Joules is beyond me.

  • @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane
    @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane Před 18 dny +7

    Forced labour would cost 10 times more than normal labour. Think about it.

    • @cxv6367
      @cxv6367 Před 18 dny

      Force labor is free ... think about it

    • @sinoleao
      @sinoleao Před 17 dny

      @@cxv6367 Even Angleo was skillful about training force labor, force labor could not free, not mention forced labor is inefficient.

    • @johnwayne8475
      @johnwayne8475 Před 17 dny

      ​@@cxv6367Yes I have a brain and I've thought about it, it costs over $150k per year and $400 per day to incarcerate a person in Australia. Hence, its more cost effective to hire skilled labour in Australia than to force it on someone. Have you actually thought this through?

  • @xiaowei1
    @xiaowei1 Před 18 dny +5

    making solar power is not the issue, it's storing for night time usage. Hopefully this can be solved and we can ditch coal.

    • @garylee9668
      @garylee9668 Před 18 dny

      heard China is going to build lots of battery to store the power. Ditching coal is impossible for now until new technology comes up such as nuclear fusion.

    • @jefflethuman9794
      @jefflethuman9794 Před 17 dny

      That is where wind and batteries come into play

  • @RawandCookedVegan
    @RawandCookedVegan Před 17 dny

    Great video Sam. Would be interesting to see how various countries fare in terms of individual solar use. How many homes in China have solar roofs versus the US. Also, would love a video on Germany's investments into solar. What percentage of German power is actually solar/wind. Was staying away from nuclear a good idea?

  • @FoilingFrenzy
    @FoilingFrenzy Před 17 dny

    In Kunming, China. The number of EVs here is breathtaking and currently cruising in a Toyota BZ3 for a couple of days 😎

  • @philiptaylor7902
    @philiptaylor7902 Před 17 dny

    Thanks Sam, great news.

  • @davidmaxwaterman
    @davidmaxwaterman Před 18 dny

    It'd be good to say where the panels are actually made for the various 'farms'.

  • @punditgi
    @punditgi Před 18 dny +6

    I thought Australia used hectares. What's next? Fahrenheit??? 😮

    • @zoransarin5411
      @zoransarin5411 Před 18 dny +2

      Speak to most fisherman and they still talk in feet and inches and pounds. Carpenters still talk of nails by inches and timber as well ie 4”x2”. Farmers will tell you their land size in acres. The great Australian dream as they say is a quarter acre block. Not 1,024square meters or 0.1024 hectares, but 1/4 acre.
      The difficulty many CZcamsrs contend with is deciding which system to use and which dollar to refer to. If he has a large US subscriber base, then it makes sense for him to use their metrics

    • @punditgi
      @punditgi Před 18 dny +1

      @@zoransarin5411 Yikes! 🙄

    • @hiram1923
      @hiram1923 Před 18 dny +1

      @@zoransarin5411 > If he has a large US subscriber base, then it makes sense for him to use their METRICS
      Oh the irony... ;)

    • @zoransarin5411
      @zoransarin5411 Před 18 dny

      @@hiram1923 touchĂŠ!

  • @LyallDilkes
    @LyallDilkes Před 16 dny

    Correction: My story initially stated that the solar farm is on 200,000 acres. The original Chinese source says the area is 200,000 mu, a Chinese unit representing 1/15 hectares, so the total area is about 33,000 acres. The story also stated that the solar farm is 5 GW. It has been corrected to 3.5 GW - I apologize for the errors.

    • @LyallDilkes
      @LyallDilkes Před 16 dny

      Also 3.5 GW is the capacity not what it will actually do. The CF is likely to be around 30%.

  • @SFloyd794
    @SFloyd794 Před 18 dny +1

    Great Video.

  • @someonenew3478
    @someonenew3478 Před 9 dny

    Solar Star is not the largest solar farm in the U.S. It is only the 5th or 6th largest currently. And larger ones are currently being built. Current largest is 966MW Gemini. The Chinese farm is 3500MW or just more than three and half times larger. Bigger yes but not by magnitudes.

  • @louishendricks-tv1sx
    @louishendricks-tv1sx Před 17 dny

    Awesome! Thanks for the heads up information!

  • @petehoney1
    @petehoney1 Před dnem +1

    wow 😀😀

  • @Gobhumi
    @Gobhumi Před 18 dny +2

    cool report Sam

  • @HeyErnie007
    @HeyErnie007 Před 17 dny

    China has been building a ton of coal plants in the southern part of the country. The problem China currently has is they don't have a way to get all of the excess power from the northern part of the country to the south and so what happens is they'll build massive solar farms that produce too much electricity and they'll sit around and do nothing for years because they don't have the transmission lines to move the power where it needs to go.

  • @Jakob_DK
    @Jakob_DK Před 16 dny

    What is the benefit of making the largest solar park?
    Why not make several large parks and spread any risk of natural disaster or local weather

  • @MyrKnof
    @MyrKnof Před 17 dny

    If it wasnt illegal here, i'd be aiming to be self suffecient

  • @bertiesworld
    @bertiesworld Před 18 dny

    Solar is wonderful, IF the sun comes out. Compared to last year, its performance this year is somewhat lacking. A too brief flurry of activity seems to have given way to mediocre output. Last year, I wasn't charging up the batteries at all from the grid from March right through to September. This year, June now and I'm still using the grid (cheap rate admittedly), just so I don't have to use the expensive stuff.

  • @wonderplanet343
    @wonderplanet343 Před 18 dny

    Wow. ❤😂. Love your videos

  • @MrNoWool
    @MrNoWool Před 16 dny

    Good job Sam, hope you are all OK.
    Can I make some observations regarding: ethical standards as respectfully as possible…
    Re: ethical standards embedded in price of these products it is a major concern to me.
    If lower value is placed on human wellbeing then the costs of production related human capital of a product will be lower, low price is a red flag and needs to be understood so that consumers of products are not inadvertently entrenching unhealthy standards as the future benchmark that they themselves will have to endure to be competitive.
    There is a lot intentional opacity in the production systems that Chinese organisations now dominate, and the world is reliant upon.
    I am very concerned, there are too many credible voices of everyday people that once away from the domestic speech restraint of the country raise personal experience of unspeakable horror… not all of them can be dismissed as western malign influence.
    Thanks Sam…

  • @thomasbeach7436
    @thomasbeach7436 Před 15 dny

    Twenty years ago China was building mostly coal plants, paying a heavy price for coal and importing oil for their transportation. Now China is building renewables to power their country and coal plants aren't being built as much. Soon they will have enough solar to shut down most of their coal plants. Where will we sell our coal?

  • @petersimms4982
    @petersimms4982 Před 14 dny

    Wow 😮❤

  • @frankcellini9363
    @frankcellini9363 Před 18 dny

    It would be interesting to see how large and how many solar farms we would need to power Australia… also how much power is fed into grid from approximately 4 million home solar installations.

    • @tomroughan9995
      @tomroughan9995 Před 17 dny

      3 of the chinese farms would be required to replace output of the eraring power station in NSW, plus about 30000GWh of bess

  • @paulchatland8600
    @paulchatland8600 Před 16 dny

    What happens at night and on days without sun??????????? Also What will happen to these panels at their end of life and who will pay for them to be disposed of.
    . He appears to forget that some countries donot have enough land.

  • @imantsjansons5009
    @imantsjansons5009 Před 17 dny

    China isn't afraid of local overproduction, capitalists should be. I am Latvian, here in Latvia tomorrow energy prices according Nordpool group ( energy stock exchange, which includes Scandinavian countries, Poland, Germany , Baltic states, some others ) will be from zero to negative from 7 am to 6 pm local time. You can't build a new wind or solar park, if you can't sell your product, the energy for the prices which don't cover your expenses.

    • @ralphzoombeenie2330
      @ralphzoombeenie2330 Před 17 dny

      Nordpool should provide free electricity to Germany to replace the NordStream gas supply destroyed by the US

  • @kamingcloud2880
    @kamingcloud2880 Před 17 dny

    Love all the Renewable Energy, People are creating a Cleaner, Safer Better Invironment for the WORLD for Everyone to Live In !!!
    Let hope all the Solar Panels materials are recyclable after their end of use, or else we are just creating more toxic garbage materials into the Earth landfills.
    😉💖⚡️🔋🌞💯👍👏👏👏

  • @jamesleetrigg
    @jamesleetrigg Před 17 dny

    Can you do a comparison from solar farms to Home installs who has the biggest capacity?

  • @JustMakingItWork
    @JustMakingItWork Před 8 dny

    I think the word "indentured labour" could be used. Many of the posters here have obviously never traveled around the world, much less Dubai.

  • @MultiMyNickName
    @MultiMyNickName Před 3 dny

    I believe its of critical importance for China to begin dialogue with Mexico to help them with the repatriation of California to Mexico, that for me should be the big issue of 2025.

  • @davidnika446
    @davidnika446 Před 18 dny +1

    Sam, that last line about "...solar farms covering the planet". The haters are going to make hay with that!

    • @oldbloke204
      @oldbloke204 Před 18 dny

      Look at how much China has to import in the way of food, fuel, fertilizers and the like and then look at how their manipulated economy is going atm.
      Seen their building/housing market?

    • @DK-ev9dg
      @DK-ev9dg Před 18 dny

      ​@@oldbloke204get a life clown hater.

    • @thewolfdoctor761
      @thewolfdoctor761 Před 18 dny +2

      "The haters are going to make hay with that!"
      That would be the last straw.

    • @davidnika446
      @davidnika446 Před 17 dny +1

      @@thewolfdoctor761 Ha! It did take a few seconds for that to register. ;)

  • @johnfrancis4401
    @johnfrancis4401 Před 17 dny

    Great news

  • @thomasagarza
    @thomasagarza Před 18 dny +2

    You literally said that this progress might be partially a result of slave labor, and then without pause, you went back to speaking about how good these things are. Are your priorities that jacked up?

  • @xtc2v
    @xtc2v Před 17 dny

    I understand solar panels cannot be economically recycled. How about meeting that goal by 2030 Mr Viking?

  • @andreandre1051
    @andreandre1051 Před 18 dny

    👍👍

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Před 18 dny

    Cheers Sam the man

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Před 18 dny

    Evening mate

  • @castletown999
    @castletown999 Před 17 dny

    I wonder why they built it all in one place?

  • @dhruvramansingh6417
    @dhruvramansingh6417 Před 11 dny

    Please make some videos about Indian renewable too

  • @DavidCoxDallas
    @DavidCoxDallas Před 17 dny

    as China's population is falling and power demand with it, most likely, the percentage supplied by renewables should increase.

  • @loathgoogel2703
    @loathgoogel2703 Před 5 dny

    It isn't really so surprising that the USA wouldn't have extremely large solar farms; especially not compared with China. Apart from the obvious, that China has more solar power installed, there is also the geography. Although it has about four times the population density of the USA, about 90% of that population is confined to about 30% of the territory. So it leaves some lower-density areas, affording large-scale construction opportunities. And as to Nimbyism, a problem for would-be rollers out of renewables projects across the democratic world? No problem in a dictatorship.

  • @SnoopFroggNFT
    @SnoopFroggNFT Před 16 dny

    Is it too last to add Perovski to the panels?

  • @GabrielSBarbaraS
    @GabrielSBarbaraS Před 17 dny

    What will they do if they start to depend on all these gigawatts and it is cloudy for a few day. Battery can't carry the load that long.

  • @BeelP.
    @BeelP. Před 18 dny +9

    PLEASE, Sam for goodness' sakes don't regurgitate that wholly discredited American mumbo jumbo about Xinjiang forced labor. The UN Special Rapporteur has already called American sanctions related to forced labor accusations illegal and against natural justice. Apparently you have not received the memo, Sam. Or are you clueless about it? Or do you only believe anything if said by Americans?

  • @loathgoogel2703
    @loathgoogel2703 Před 16 dny

    200k "acres" - translates into post-Copernican speech as 80k hectares.

  • @EshkinKott1
    @EshkinKott1 Před 16 dny

    How about recycling of these monstrous panels ?🤔

  • @angelorao3750
    @angelorao3750 Před 18 dny

    Would there be a net benefit if wind turbine support poles had solar panels attached to them to give the blades a “head start”?

    • @magnetospin
      @magnetospin Před 18 dny

      No, that would not be a energy positive operation. Also, if your wind turbine needs a head start it means you put it in the wrong place.

    • @angelorao3750
      @angelorao3750 Před 18 dny

      @@magnetospin
      Thank you for your response!

  • @moot2046
    @moot2046 Před 2 dny

    Force labour in solar panel production ? Like space opera movie that Aliens travel hundred light years that enough to burn a few sun, just to enslave humanity with robots ?

  • @emilyblade9676
    @emilyblade9676 Před 18 dny +4

    Why the world's largest solar farm has created so much controversy?
    Because it's not theirs.

  • @Bora_H
    @Bora_H Před 17 dny +2

    Keyword trigger activated! Chinese troll farm swarming! What a weird job you have.

  • @lovefromhuang
    @lovefromhuang Před 18 dny +1

    BUT AT WHAT COST!!😂

  • @hanswitvliet8188
    @hanswitvliet8188 Před 18 dny

    Great to hear,
    But how does it compare to coal fired plants in China???
    Is solar already replacing them there, or is solar only adding extra power to the grid?

    • @davidinkster1296
      @davidinkster1296 Před 17 dny +1

      Solar and nuclear are replacing coal. China plans to be energy sufficient and not rely on imported coal for energy.

  • @Muricans1776
    @Muricans1776 Před 17 dny

    It’s ok we have plenty of Coal in ‘Murica.