Harley Davidson Shovelhead Getting a New Electronic Ignition
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- Harley Davidson Shovelhead is getting a new Single Fire, Dual Sparkplug, Dual Coil, Computer Programmable Ignition System. Another "Repair by Replacement," repair.
At last it is good to hear the technical advantages of dual plug ignition and electronic ignition from someone who clearly knows a lot more than just how to adjust a clutch. Lovely stuff Mike, that was a treat to watch.
Thank You.
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Great video Mike,....i truly enjoy any content you put out for us...thank you for what you do sir. I can't wait to see the project bike come to fruition!.....it would be a great honor to ride with you!
Thank You. I'd like that too.
You remind me of when I was a kid trying to build bikes .my buddies dad would let me hang out and chop bikes. He built model a &t. Your show feels like he's still here. Thank you so much. 😁
Thank You. I'm pleased to be included in nice thoughts.
We want to see you building that project bike! Thank you for all the videos and the information.
Thank You. Me too! Nothing goes as quickly as we would like. And things cost money, and what needs to be repaired gets repaired, and you fix your teeth and you smog your car and you replace tires where needed. And, oh yah, the project bike takes more time than planned.
@@pacificmike9501 i have an 81 shovel 96" stroker that is running dual coil dual plug heads single fire and this same dynatek ignition. Im told you should retard the timing about 5 degrees with dual plugs. How do you set yours? Im not sure if i can just program that in, use the stock curve 4 which is 32 degrees or set the tdc mark forward in the timing hole? Thanks in advance for any input
Hello Mike. Thank u for xplain the electronic ignition. Once again it sounds easy when u talk about it👍. Looking forward to see more on the project bike👍. "The Swede"
Thank You. More to come.
Good video quality and sound. Mike is very knowledgeable as a result of all his years on the Harley Davidson. His explanation concerning the hemispherical combustion chamber is very good and easy to understand why they put 2 spark plugs in each cylinder. Thank you Mike for sharing your knowledge to people like me who has not owned a Harley but can appreciate them thru you!
Thanks for that!
Love hanging out in your garage have a blessed week my friend.
Thank You. And, you too.
Hey Mike. Great Videos. Had a 79FLH with the original 79/80 electronic ignition. Ended up fitting a Crane hi4 single fire. Made a big difference to starting and general running. Love your videos, and enjoy watching those old sleds getting some old school care.
Thank You.
Nice explanation about position of the sparkplugs, never thought much about it, and dual fire actually makes sense. I entered the world of electronic ignition on my 80" Shovel -79 this summer and I agree that I'm not totally crazy about the VOES, but it seems to work fine so far. But it was huge job to make space for it under the FatBob-tank, very, very tight. Thank you for another inspiring video.
Thank You. Glad you liked it.
Thanks for the videos! I recently inherited my dads old shovelhead and with a lot of help from your videos, I’ve now got her running and ready for the road.
That is awesome! Thank You.
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Jeez, I love this hands-on material, and getting my hands dirty. Thanks Mike for helping me to understand more about what I am trying to do. You are the greatest1
Glad to help!
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Had to watch this one again since you just posted a new video to show the custom programing feature. Good stuff.
Thank You
Great explanation of electronic ign. Install. Thanks Mike.
Glad it was helpful!
Cheers Mike! I love the switch for the different curve. I have never seen that before. Great idea! All the best. Al
Glad you like it!
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Hey Mike good video tonight...
While I was out on the road this evening about 8 or so miles from home. It started to spit a little rain. Lightning and thundering. Then the rain got a little heavier. More sky lightning. And then it started pouring so hard I had to stop. Thankfully i wasn't that far away from a gas station with a canopy over the pumps to seal some refuge . Well by the time i got home the only thing dry was a little spot on the top of my head under my helmet. Man it poured hard.. oh well that's how it goes..See you out on the road..lol.
I'll see you there, but let's wish for a clear day.
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Nice video Mike. I have a rebuilt 1979 80” Shovel and am running a VOES switch with a Ultima ignition. The Ultima is a Dyna module repackaged as a Ultima and cheaper. The bike is kick only with a Super E and 99% of the time starts on the first kick.Tatro Machine in San Diego rebuilt the motor and has software to program the module for kick only applications.He did his magic and as stated earlier, the bike starts 99% of the time on the first kick.The Shovel runs like a violated ape.Keep up the great work !
Sounds great!.
The ultima ignition is basically the same as Dyna just rebranded under a different name,really good ignition system
That's good info. I'll have to check it out.
Thanks for sharing! To quote Tom Petty..."The waiting is the hardest part" look forward to seeing the parts come in for the project bike. Stay healthy!!
I'm trying. You take care too.
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That is a nice cool system you have. Learning all the time you have a video. Great stuff always. Thanks a bundle. Last time I heard dual plugs on a Shovel was 1977 and those guys were Bonneville bound. That bike was fast.
Mine is a 77, but we didn't dual plug it until the early, early eighties.
@@pacificmike9501 Was there a kit or did you just drill & tap?
@@pacificmike9501 I never could fine any info on this subject then or now.
Another educational video!! I love the ol' Shovelheads... Always have, ever since my first one (76' fxe in 2004, 79' flh custom in 2006 and a 79' fxe in 2014.. that was also my first street bike wreck).
Listening to you talk about This shovelhead is overwhelmingly exciting! I know that sounds weird and kind of goofy but, I just really loved both my shovelheads. I say both as in two, because the 79 FLH Was a basket case,, I had to sell it after my motorcycle wreck to pay for medical bills. . .
Anyways... I really really appreciate your knowledge and the content of your videos. 🇺🇸😎👍
Thank You. That's very rewarding to me.
Im new to the shovelhead world.i got an 84' fxwg shovel with some s&s parts. 93 cubic inch. Im not a mechanic at all, that is untill i noticed i was spending more times on the side of my bike rather on top enjoying my bike. So thx to you pacific mike. I am a shovel rider and mechanic.lol well not mechanic but learning.
That's great. Who knows how much hidden talent you possess?
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Always great content !
Thank You.
Another very informative video Mike . Be Safe!
Thanks, you too!
Love the idea of running a switch for changing the timing. I might look to incorporate that somwheres else. Brilliant.
Honda vtec guys eat your heart out.
We can all learn from each other.
Great videos! Lots of love from Alta Loma, CA.
Thank You. We'll meet somewhere, when the shows start happening again, Born Free, Hippy Killer, Chopperfest.
I had to stop cleaning my car, in order to watch my favorite man!
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Great stuff brother Mike.
Ride hard ride safe be well
Thanks, you too!
Love that bike of yours, its a work of art! thanks always enjoy your videos
Thank You.
This is like a bike university! Thank you so much for doing this!
Thank You for "attending."
Great explanation of spark and ignition.....
Thank You.
Good evening Mr Pacific, quite a tough topic to squeeze in 15 minutes but to the point. Technology has done wonderful things for our scooters. Take care of yourself Mike
Thank You. And, you too.
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I didn’t know you could do new tech on the old Shovel! Super cool 😎
Shovels aren't that old.
Keith Parr, you can run electronic ignition on a Panhead too. Theres a plate that drops in the stock distributor. Hotter spark and consistent. I also have put an electronic regulator on the bike. The generator doesn't work as hard now. I still have the big Delco regulator on the bike for original look. I made a plate to mount the electronic regulator under the bike. Been on there for about eleven years now.
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Another great video Mike! It makes me want to buy an older bike to play on!
You should!
I'm feeling your pain. I've got parts at various places for my build (a 1935 Studebaker Commander coupe) that I can't wait to get back so I can continue on. And I'm NOT getting any younger.
What a great car. Nice project.
@@pacificmike9501 Thank you sir! You are welcome to stop by anytime. I'm in the City of Vernon.
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Thanks Mike, I still have my plastic plug run it up to 2000 rpm and have my buddy move the points plate while I held the timing light. If I was in the hills a lot I would put the mark just a tad towards the front, good times 😎
Right on
As usual, well done 👍🏽. My mechanic called and said my baby isn’t getting fuel ⛽️. Can’t wait for the project bike 🏍 and I can’t believe 2 people gave you a thumbs down 👎🏽, now that really blows my mind.
You can't please everybody. Looking forward to the project bike myself. I still have other things to do at the saame time. So, we'll just do them all.
Hello my friend I am a fan of duel plug heads I used to have a Thruxton Bonneville with a four plug head as the triumph head is one piece so good for you my friend the more efficient and quicker the burn the better so take care my friend love duel plug heads regards Alan.
Thank You. And Alan, a ride on that Triumph was probably awesome.
Great video Mike
Thank You.
Very cool vid mate love ya bike i just pick up a restore 1979 flh on friday night cant wait to start tinkering 😃
Cool! Have fun!
Interesting show. I'm running points and condenser on a 78 shovel. Nothing even close to your ignition but it works for me. I carry a extra condenser and points in the saddle bag. You probably already know this, but in the event someone doesn't. The points for a 1960's General Motors 6 cylinder 235 cubic inch engine work well in a Harley. You do have to do a little modification using a file on the points bracket. If you purchase new points and compare to the points you took out you will see what I mean. Thank you for another great video. Keep the rubber side down and have a great 4th.
You too. Thank you for your input. I carry a points plate and advance mechanism. But your input is much appreciated and I hope our viewers read what people like yourself send in.
THANK YOU...for sharing. Fantastic contents. I got educated. Appreciate your videos.
Glad you like them!
Too cool!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
Our pleasure!
Thanks again for all the groovy information.
Our pleasure!
Outstanding information.
Thank You.
Great job
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Great video 👍🏻
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Wow Mike that’s the most tech on an old bike I’ve seen...cool
That's what happens when you buy one new and keep it forever, and use it as your "test bench."
I've been waiting for this one.
Good. I always hope I clear enough.
Did this to my shovel 5 years ago. Have had zero ignition issues since.
Yes, it's pretty nice.
Thanks Mike
Thank You.
Great Video!! I'm running the original Dyna S system with the mechanical advance. Love it!!!!
I ran one for years and loved it. I went to this system because it came out and I had to try it. Again, this bike was my test bench for years.
@@pacificmike9501 When finally built my Shovel about 20 years ago, I first went with the Crane Hi-4, which burned out in about 2 years. Then back to points, Which reminded me of why I was excited when electronic ignitions came out. Then I went with the Dyna, and no issues since. Keep it simple, at least for me!
wow thats cool, i worked on a drag car pit crew years ago did not even have that at the time love it Harley tuner bikes
I've been playing with it for quite a while. It teaches me stuff. You can try tuning differently and get immediate results, make note, then make you changes, all of it quickly. Glad you enjoyed it.
Hi Mike , You have entertained me [ and many many others ] , so , if you have the Time , a little True Tale . I also Twin Plugged my Harley in the late'80's , fast forward to about '94ish , Standing outside my Local H.D. Dealers , and a New Harely Rider was looking over my Motorcycle , and of course noticed the Twin Plug Heads . He asked me why , and I explained that Harely had to conform more and more to noise and emmisions Reg's , and , Hondas Flagship , Expensive NR750 with oval Pistons had not really caught on , and Honda had been left with shelves full of Oval Pistons , H.D. had done a deal , and I was on the Experimental Motorcycle , with Honda oval Pistons and needed two Spark Plugs . Funnier if you had been there , with my Buddies listening , and trying to keep staright faces . Hope I have not bored you too tears .
I always trie to educate my customers enough to keep them from embarrasing themselves. You're a bad kid. You're just picking on this guy. I hope he gets even. You get to pick on him, but then, you gotta give him his turn.
Great information, but no more 100 mph wrecks !
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Hey Mike I like your stuff man
Thank You.
Thank you Sir.
You are most welcome.
Thanks for another good one Mike. How about an Alternator / Generator charging system test ,?
Stay safe.
Those are several different tests. We'll do them as they come up. Thank You.
Hi Mike 👋 good video ,again 👌 i have old ingnition ,with old Beetle’ s Parts on it
Thank You. That's at least some decent Bosch parts.
Pacific Mike , Yes , German Parts
I have run a Dyna single fire dual plug set up on a 90 inch shovel stroker with a five speed and a 22/40 tooth final drive. The bike would get almost 50 mpg on the highway with a Super B. I think I was just barely off the idle circuit at 80 mph. A single fire set up just has a very distinct sound to it but that was 30 years ago though.
Sounds great!
Thank you
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👍👍👍👍right on A lot of good detail In the video.
Glad you liked it!
Hey Mike thanks so much for another great video... I always enjoy tuning in.. So listen I've got a question for you & I apologize if this topic has possibly bin covered in an earlier video. I'm guessing that I've watched about 75% of your content & scanned thru but I may have I may missed it.. It's about your heads & exhaust on this beauty Shovelhead.. You get a good look at about 5:34 in the video. I really like the way your set up with the four bolts instead of a single one.. Is this something you machined up yourself of is available for purchase to public kind of thing? Maybe Exhaust options with there pro's & con's of design etc could be a topic suggestion for a video in the future... Anyway if you have a minute to reply would be much appreciated.. Take care of yourself Mike.. Cheers from Dave in Canada..
Dave, those are STD heads. They are very high performance and a real pleasure. To my knowledge they are not available at this time. They were produced with three bolt exhaust ports. I love that feature. Of course, you have to fab your own pipes. I think Paughco produced some drag pipes for them. They also came with dual spark plugs. Neat stuff. Cheers to you.
Thanks for the reply @@pacificmike9501.. I guess I should've known that. I considered myself pretty lucky just to get my hands on a new set of drag pipes last summer.. Have a good one Mike..
Your awesome man.
Thank You.
Guy, girls listen to this guy. OG HD. BIKER . 👍👌. MAN THATS A VETRAN 👌😎
Thank You. But, it's just age.
@@pacificmike9501 Age and Wisdom! Your sharing is helping me restore a shovelhead
Awesome that you run technology with your classic bikes,cool guy Mike 👍🇬🇧
Pretty high tech stuff tonight! 🤓
I hope not boring. I had to replace the module, so, that's what I talked about.
Old school biker that can get the computer out to make adjustments, love it.
Yah, it was difficult at first.
Two of my friend with shovelheads that switched to electronic ignition had a fit kick starting them after they did. One bike is stoked one wasn't. both are 1977's have you seen that yourself. I still have points in my 72 FLH and it starts very easy with the kicker.
The problem is, being able to retard far enough to start easily, then being able to advance far enough to run well. There needs to be broad enough adjustment. An electric starter is much more forgiving. If a unit is programmable enough to give you enough timing choices, it's fine for kick starting.
@@pacificmike9501 My one friend had a bum battery and the only way to start his 77 was push it. I got to say nether guy has the maintenance habits I have. Thanks
Nice ... Thanks
Thank you too!
Just had a Vulcan unit fail...I happened to have the points set up that came with the bike...fired right up. Going to run that for awhile till I remember why I switched them out in the first place lol
Interesting.
Hi Mike great video! I like how you hooked up the VOES to a toggle switch. Could I do this with my Panhead also?
Thank You. Well, you'd have to have an electronic ignition system with two advance curves in it.
Hey Mike, love the videos. Learning a lot.
Had a question for you that the rest of the commenters could help answer.
I just picked up a 72 Shovelhead, Its got a super E carb and looks to be completely stock other than that. Id love to make it into a true roadworthy bike, not afraid of long road trips. Do you have any advice on upgrades or maintenance that I should begin on to Improve reliability/rideability?
How is it geared? Is it turning too high an RPM level at freeway speeds? Does it get hot? What you need to do is ride it. Start with small trips first. You'll soon know what you need. It's all about you.
Top stuff as usual , I've read and watched loads of content about setting 1340 evo ignition timing , any chance of knowing your take or methods of setting up on these motors dynamic or static methods ?
Lovin the videos 🙏.
Thank You. Using a stock electronic ignition in them, it's by guess or by golly. I'm a little better than that. It's trial and error. Using programmable ignitions and setting according to the manufacturer is better by far.
Great Topic , as I am just about to pull heads for weeping head gaskets and ignition up grade. On 81 shovel . ( currently points) If you were you , would you dual plug heads? Cheers! Just shoot me a thumb up or down . I bought bike new, Love It
I've run dual plugs on this bike for nearly 30 years. I also run some fairly tall pistons. It works well.
Thanks for the video Mike. It cleared up a couple of things for me. One question I have (maybe a dumb one at that), how and what bracket did you use to mount both coils?
I used Dynatek brackets for their coils.
Cool!
Thank You.
great idea thinking about upgrading my 1995 Harley Davidson Electra glide classic I have a Crane FireBall HI - 4E Motorcycle Ignition module and I have the VOES switch and I'm running a CV Carburetor on the bike she is running great but I have had the ignition module for a number of years. and it is probably due for an upgrade after seeing your video I'm thinking about doing the same thing.
any advice or changes you could recommend would be much appreciated thank you for all of your videos always look forward to watching with my wife and our dog as well.
You sir, are obviously doing something right. I applaud you, your wife, and your dog. I wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving.
Sounds like me trying to type lol, love it peace.
Thank You.
Hi Mike. Love the videos. I notice that there are no fender rails on the rear fender. What model is that off ? Thanks.
That is a highly modified original fender that came with the bike when I bought it new. I have never liked the stock fender struts. So, one of my close friends, a very talented guy, Jack Foster, built "internal struts" for me. They are welded in and go in place of the originals, all the way forward and all the way back. They are handmade of 1/4" steel plate. The fender hinge has also been removed and the fender welded shut. The original tailight hole has also been filled. I used the original fender because I like the bead that runs all the way around it. All of the work on it is done in steel. One can easily lift the bike by the rear fender.
Great video Mike! Thanks!
Question I’m using the same basic setup...
Dave Mackie dual plug heads, 9:5.1 pistons, dyna 2000i Ignition. Problem is the long plugs are resistor plugs (autolite 4265), where the short reach plugs are not (autolite 4275). Any advice or recommendations on correct plugs to use? Thanks again, and enjoy the channel!
I ran exactly that same setup for years. Dave Mackie is one of my favorite people on earth. I used Champion plugs, RJ12YC on the right and RN12YC on the left.
Pacific Mike thank you sir. I’m excited about getting this rebuild done. About a week or two from firing up the Engine. Looking forward to the Mackie heads / dm580 cam. The engine builder swears by this combo. 👍
Mike: What is that negative battery terminal bar you use on your shovel to make hook up easier? Is it an off the shelf item or something you just made? Where do I get one? Thanks for all the great content.
Thank You. It is a piece of brass. I buy the stuff at a local hardware store. It comes in like about a two foot length. Then I cut it and drill it to whatever I need.
I am rideing an 83 so it is titled shovel it is a built bike aftermarket frame delcron cases I have no idea what is in side but runs as good as my old twin crap but with a lot more fun right now it is running on points and I kinda like it that way I have had an electronic on an evo go out and I was stuck but points I can work on I have had to do it on a 74 fxe I use to ride but to the point if I changed to an electronic with a single plug would it make much difference in the way it runs I think the insides are basically stock and when the bike was built the builder used some very nice parts I think he built it to ride
Sounds good to me. I had an electronic ignition burn out on me in Pueblo Colorado on a Sunday morning. Poor me. I opened my tool bag ansked everyone to leave me alone for about fifteen minutes. When they came back, I had installed the points plate and advance mechanism I had in my tool bag. I fired it up and we road home to Southern California.
Mike.....I had as least two pop up add for medicare supplements. (are they trying to tell Shovel head viewers something?) The older I get the more I'm into reliability. I've ran points,electronic,and Morris mags on Shovels. (kick start,SU carb) Fact is, points always started the best of the three. (it's been said that if it isn't a good starter it ain't worth a "F")We know timing is everything and the factory FX cam also seemed to outperform even Sifton cams (starting)for me. I've ran Dyna (I like them) but a guy had better carry spare parts. Nothing wrong with points and a well cared for mechanical advance.....I like to play also!...thanks for the vid!....walt...tulsa,ok
Veery Eenteresting. I do hope you're old enough for the humor. I honestly, don't know what to say. I do know that now I'm going to take my computer in for its maintenance. I pay in advance for this periodic routine. I just wish they wouldn't speak to me. They do a good job. They keep my computer working. I haven't a clue what they're talking about. Then I will stop by for my yearly blood test. I don't know what the results will mean. I know I'm fine. They'll talk over my head again. I understand my motorcycle.
Zipper ignition is what i use.kept breaking the dyna in my stroker
Cool.
I have a shovel 73 like yours s&s duel spark plugs, I bought a duel coil bracket. I have a Dyna DS-6 duel fire ignition...
Q) looking at Dyna DC-2 1.5 ohms x2 are these the correct coils? I assume short jump wires coil to coil? What spark plug wire do you recommend on this engine and plug wire routing information plz. Thanks for the channel ur my go to guy.
I go with Dyna's recommendations on anything they make. They know. They tell ya.
My brand I use in my 98 Fatboy except mine is under the seat and replaces the ignition module has a basic hole switch in the cone
Yep. Good stuff.
Hello again & another great video. I actually am running the same ignition on my shovel. Dual plug heads & the two coils in one deal. Is there an advantage to running separate coils? That's the direction I'm leaning on for my chopper build. As always be well.
They do it two different ways and they work the same. You use two coils or a single coil with four plug leads and all the terminals to to equal fwo coils. But, it's all the same.
@@pacificmike9501 I have mine mounted on the stock bracket on my FX, sort of wide & hits my leg a bit. ( Dyna twin ) Been set up that way for years sort of used to it. Want to go separate coils on my chopper mostly for looks. Also not hitting my leg will be cool.
Mike, I like to revisit your videos to get more insight. I am late to the party again. I did an upper rebuild on my 83 shovel. I had points but converted to electronics. The bikes runs good. Good fuel mileage. 175 degrees with an added oil cooler. I kept the engine stock. I have a super e carb on it. My question. When I check the plugs after a ride, they're darken and not that tan color. Not oily. Probably running rich. No dark smoke out of the exhaust. I tried the lean mixture adjustment on the carb, but it's not improving the look on the plugs. Someone mentioned that it's ok to run it a little rich so the engine runs cooler. Thoughts?? thanks.
I like to run a little rich. There are folks out there that run right up to the edge of too lean, and they run too warm. A little rich is okay. You could try a slightly leaner low speed jet and see how it runs. Again, a little rich does tend to run a little cooler.
First! Keep up the good work, Mike!
Thank You. I'll try.
@@pacificmike9501 I just rode my 2019 Triumph Tiger 1200 XCA from Portland, Oregon to Bend, Oregon...via Mt. Hood. Gorgeous ride!
Mike! Very nice bike, I also have an 83 Shovelhead FLH. My question for you is what forward controls are you running. I currently have the stock floor boards on my bike and would like something more comfortable for my height.
I'm not real tall, but my legs are long. Those are one of the less expensive sets and I think they can be bought from Drag Specialties, Custom Chrome, V-Twin and probably several others. The extensions and pegs are from Kuryakyn. The brake pedal pad is from an old Harley clutch pedal and is mounted with a modified piece of angle iron.
Pacific Mike thanks Mike 👍
Very interesting video Mike. Even though English is not my mother language easy to understand. Is there any information which advance curve (Ultima 53-644) is best for a 1988-883 Sportster? Would love to see a video about choosing advance curves. Sincere thanks.
It's really something you need to experiment with for yourself on your machine. The Dynatek ignition I use on my Shovelhead is configured to that motor with me riding it. That's the purpose of the adjustments. Normally, when there are curves available to you, you start with the most aggressive and then go to the next milder if the first one detonates.
The Loneliness of the Long Distance Flame Front. - by Lod.
'Pity the single spark plug, in darkness, sat there fizzing,
& faced with a curving landscape, to send it's flame front whizzing,
far across the other side, to then push the piston down,
trouble is, that while en-route, it barbeques the crown,
for hydrocarbons careth not, who they scorch & damage,
they'll dump their heat just getting there, it really is quite savage. (ouch, sorry)
So fit a second sparky thing, to centralize the score,
then instead of burning sideways, & pushing on the bore,
everything lines up nice & straight, no bias to one side,
for The Lady loves a linear push, it helps her pistons glide.'
(I feel this is probably the point where, . . . I should just 'go & put the kettle on'. Happy trundling : )
Thank You. You never disapoint.
Hey Mike, I note you time the ignition on the TDC mark. I run points and time the ignition using the advance mark, which is what most people I know recommend. Are we getting it wrong?
You do it according to the manufacturer. Time the points according to the advance mark with the ignition at full advance. This system is set at TDC and the "brain" in there automatically advances to where it is programmed. You're not wrong.
@@pacificmike9501 Understood, yes I use the little cam locking tool - thanks Mike
Good stuff Mike. If you don't mind, where did you pick up your extensive knowledge on all things Harley?
Nobody knows "all things Harley." It goes on forever. And there are people who have forgotten more than I will ever know. But I did grow up in a gas station in San Bernardino, California. You go to sleep to that sound growing up there. Just a love and a hunger for it. Harry Fryed and Willie Nelson did a song called "That Roar of Dirty Thunder." It pretty much explains it.
Mike if I wanted to get a vintage Harley what would you suggest as a first choice for a used vintage Harley?
Good video as usual mike.
Depends upon what you want to spend. The older they are, the more simple and basic they are. The older they are, the more the parts are expensive and "in demand." They're all fun. What kind of riding are you going to do with it. Personally, my Shovelhead (the only bike I ever bought new) is my comfortable road bike. My Panhead is always ready to go and is great as an old time crowd pleaser. She looks so stock and is great in the mountains. My Knucklehead is for when I need a thrill. I forget how old I am and have a tendency to get out of hand. The project bike is going to fill a void and become a roadbike/hot rod, out of the forties and early fifties.
Pacific Mike thanks for that well rounded answer mike. I think it’s sort of like having a bike for each season or use.
Honestly my first favorable impression of Harley’s were the old police Electra glides from the 1960-70s from my youth, But those are sort of big bikes I think.
Is there a voes on this bike or just the toggle switch that selects one of two advance curves? Thanks.
Nope, just a toggle switch. It really helps when doing road tests under a load. I simply configure one curve to be retarded a little to see how it does.
Are those progressive rear shocks, I need some new one. If they are Is there a big riding difference in ride
Yes and yes.
Hi Mike. About the custom toggle switch. Does the switch just connect the VOES wire to ground, to get the advance curve you want?
Yes.
Putting in a Dyna S on my 72' XLCH and I'm at the "static timing" portion. Instructions does call for the front cylinder to be on its compression stroke. I put my "line" at the center of the inspection hole. Not the "dots". When watching your video you mentioned that the line was the rear cylinder. I was about to change it, but checked my old HD service manual titled: "Sportsters 1970 to 1978", first. There's a figure 5-19 showing the line in the middle. The description reads: Advance timing mark on flywheel for front cylinder piston 1971 and later. 40 degree BTC. Can you help me understand? I've owned this bike since 1984 and it was always a 2 kick start ......until I had the motor rebuilt. Now it's not reliable. With a kick start, that's not too good for this 62 year old vet. Hoping that going electronic is the way back to her former glory.
The line is where the front cylinder should fire at full advance. Position it in the window. Remember to be sure your front cylinder is on its compression stroke. That's with the front piston coming up and both front valves closed.
How did you run dual points in a cone motor?I'm interested cause I want to run dual point/coils on my stroker shovel....or will one set of points fire dual coils?Thanks for your time...
Yes. One set of points will run two coils. I've done it before, but used heavy duty (in this case, Mallory) condensers, one on each coil. Dual points was something that drove me up a wall, trying to keep them in sync. Dual points on a cone motor is not too hard to create, just hard to keep in tune.
Do you still have your primary oiler hooked up? I saw the pipe in place in this film. Maybe a good subject for a video?
We've discussed it a lot. I'm sure it will come up again.