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Instead of having two thousand dollar putter fittings, how about investigate how to make a carry bag that won’t bind up clubs at the bottom.
Love how Rick can be honest with club reviews and no real bias because of a staffing deal. It's also nice to hear that the channel and size of impact can potentially cause some changes. Major manufacturers are out of control with what they try and justify for prices.
When your channel is big enough, you dont need sponsors or brand deals to keep the lights on. In all categories of youtube, you can very much tell when a channel gets big enough to forgo the normal brand deal/ sponsored videos and their content gets a lot more honest. Things shift greatly, when companies feel they need to get you products vs the need of the youtuber to get their hands on products to review.
Rusty Putter is a great name for a golfer.
Just don't search "Rusty Putter" on Urban Dictionary...
Or a band: Rusty Putter and the Broken Tees!
Or an old car 😂😂😂
£2,000 for a putter fitting is _NEVER_ value for money! Ever!!!
What if the putter causes you to win many more thousands?
@@JeremiahAlphonsus It's not the putter.
Just got back from my $2000 Ping Putter fitting, I’d never used a putter made entirely of recycled toothpicks before, but they guaranteed me no rust for life!!
2000 pounds is ridiculous for any golf fitting much less a putter. I got a full bag fitting from a well know "major" fitter in the USA. When I was doing the wedge and putter fitting, which was part of the overall package, the guy there told me "since you are buying a whole new set of clubs, i will throw in the driver and fairway woods fitting in for no charge". I then reminded him that I had already paid in full for everything. The experience was less than stellar and I never went back for the driver and fairway portion. It was a joke to be honest.
Get over it.
This is a CZcams comment section. Just name the bloody store you had the fitting at FFS
@@SCUBAsTeEb22if it's a store you've had good experience with in the past and think it might just be one lazy or rude employee then I understand not wanting to slag them publicly, just hope they gave some feedback to the people in charge
@zekebones34 probably Club Champion. That place wouldn't even give me the time of day regarding fitting or new clubs.
I paid $100 for a fitting at Club Champion. They looked at my current setup. Put me through their SAM putting system. Told me what my tendencies are. We tested certain types and changed me to a +1 flat and -1 loft. My putting has dramatically improved. On top of all this, I got a Cleveland HB Soft 1 for $175. In the end, $275 invest and my putting improved.
This just demonstrates how some "high end?" Brands just prey on people's desire to think they will improve their game if they spend $$$"
If you think a fitting is going to changed your game. You will believe anything.
Fitting is like taking a base model car vs an f1 car. A normal driver is just fine driving the baseline car. Giving the f1 car to the normal driver will give little improvements or none at all the skill level needed to gain all the upgrades will be above that drivers level. However if you give a f1 driver a base line car they are still going to be driving in better than that average driver. Then give the f1 car to the f1 driver and they will show why these little tweaks for a high skill level driver is needed for them.
Now little improvements like new brakes and tires will definitely make the average driver better. Ie getting fit for length, lie angle, proper shaft flex.
This type of putter fitting is like giving someone an f1 car.
A normal PGA, Golf Galaxy, club champion fitting is more than acceptable for most golfers level and equates to better tires, brakes etc.
It's not gonna change your game. So one shelling out this money should know this are in for the experience of the fit rather than the final product. With that being said yes it needs improvement but it's not going to change your game and make you a tour level putter over night.
The MKBHD of golf reviews. Glad the honest, unbiased review has hopefully helped to improve the process & service
This is the problem with golf today. The price of new clubs is way out of control. It's partially why my desire to play has lessened
I admit that I like many others thought this originally was an April fools joke. For me, a putter that costs 2000 pounds makes as much sense as a putter that weighs 2000 pounds.
The fitting process cost 2000, not the putter
@@Deadhorseflogger I know. I watched the full episode. They attached an iPhone to the club to do the fitting.
@@Deadhorsefloggerthe fitting process was only a few hundred £. Pretty sure he says so in the original putter review video.
@@Chris54321 a £2000 iPhone I’ll have you know. 🤣
@@chrislaing8444 Well. I am never going too Europe. Everything there is too expensive. Lol
take $2k and get green reading and putter lessons!!! NO putter is worth that just for a fitting!!!
Now I can't unhear Snape saying "Mr. Putter!"
The YT golf industry needs this. Being sponsored isn’t a sin, but also having truly transparent reviewers of products to watch is so critical to knowing what’s actually true. For example, Gerald undone in the camera CZcams scene. He’s the only person I trust and he just does raw data measurements and then some personal thoughts in a lot of his videos.
Rick Great Job! Nice to see you are protecting the regular people out there, awesome work!
Appreciate the honesty! Really respect hearing from you that Ping let you know that they’re going to do the work and go through the less than positive feedback and use that to improve. I believe that is one of the most significant aspects of successful companies.
'Rusty Putter'? I played Bass for them back in the '80s while on hiatus from touring with the 'Enervated Tinkers', a thrash metal djent electric dulcimer Britny Fox cover band!
Glad he spoke up about this. Ping literally ripping people off by even offering a $2000 putter fitting. No putter + fitting could ever be worth a price like that. Clearly they fell in love with money more than the game itself. There's no excuse for it.
Had a friend that came from Norway to Uk for the Ping putter. He said that part of it was that they said besides the fitting they would make the putter from block to those spesifics. He was underwhelmed by the experience and said that the putter he recieved was just a bent version of the stock putter.
I have used Ping in Canada off...and mostly ON..for the last 25 years, and they have given me the best retail experience/service of any golf products or just normal purchase
Had a fitting at Bettinardi. They build your custom putter on the spot and walk out with it. For that price you should expect a Michelin star meal and still walk out with your custom club.
I bought a set of Ping irons and woods after Rick tried them out on his show with a positive review, so Ping should see it works both ways. Great set of clubs.
Real question should be will a 2k putter fitting ever be worth it? Why drive up the price to that degree? Let’s make it 1k or so and it would meet expectations way better.
It just isn't worth it in any way no matter what they do..
Exactly but rich people will pay and that’s what golf brands take advantage of
I used to play golf with a +2 hccper who bought his putter in a car boot sale during the 90s. It honestly resembled the double sided ones you get to use for crazy golf. Iirc it cost him 80p 😂
2k for a fitting is insane.. that's a 2nd or even 3rd membership somewhere half decent with change for an off the rack putter. 🤔
A 2,000 pound putter fitting experience is something that you would associate with Cameron or some of the like. As a fitter myself I do use the ping cradle thingy for quick fits at the store. Not something I would think this type of experience would include. I would think they would be using Quintec or SAM Putt Lab to get some deeper data and provide a more "tour" experience.
Nice job Rick. Honesty encourages change to something that should be obtainable but the average golfer.
My 2 friends and I were playing with a guy once and he brilliantly commented that if we practiced more our putting would improve. To which I replied, hey we hit about 30 practice putts before every one of our 5 annual rounds!! But lets face it, practice is boring.
I've been using the same Rife 2 bar putter, that i bought online for 75$ back in 2015.. heck i even bought a new Cobra Sik Face putter last year, and ended up selling it mid-way through the summer and went back to the Rife. and no lie for 2k... i think i could buy a used Scotty and used the extra money for lessons on putting and reading the greens
I love Ricks even roll putter, I have had the chance to put around with one at golf galaxy. A little out of my price range but I’m saving for one!
Same here!
I’ve been looking for them on eBay.
Maybe find a used one for cheaper.
2000 pounds? that's a ton of money.
It's 20 tons.
Pa dum pah!
@@mrrobb4242 you might want to check your math.
@kenbrown2808 I'm guessing by the fact you said math instead of maths you aren't from the UK. A ton in the UK is 100 × 20 =2000 so think you will find I am correct😂
@@mrrobb4242 "ton, unit of weight in the avoirdupois system equal to 2,000 pounds (907.18 kg) in the United States (the short ton) and 2,240 pounds (1,016.05 kg) in Britain (the long ton). The metric ton used in most other countries is 1,000 kg, equivalent to 2,204.6 pounds avoirdupois."
you're thinking of a hundredweight, which i 100 pounds in the US and something like 112 in the UK.
so again, check your math. you only need one for this.
I used to play alot of golf when i was younger and got good enough to play on club teams. Its been maybe 20yrs since i hit a ball. 2k to get a putter fitting? Im very out of touch.
I practice putting a lot and am very good at reading greens to be honest hand me any putter let me warm up with about 20 putts and I can probably go 18 holes with 1 three putt. Putting is mostly green reading and pace
I have a Ping 2021 fetch putter and the matte finish has held up really well. $300 I think it was new
I had a putter fit at Scottsdale Golf in Warrington - I spent the best part of an hour and a half going through everything and also changing my putting style - I got a LAB golf Link.1 putter and along with the new putting style it’s made a significant difference to my game and I can’t recommend Scottsdale enough. Having spoken to other people having club fits as well they’re very impressed by the service and seeing them build the clubs with the attention to detail it really shows the difference
this is not a criticism, just an observation. i have a putter that i have used for approximately 50 years. it's an old palmer mallet putter. i have spent up to 1000 dollars before i gave up looking for something better. the putter is face weighted and has served me well. to go out and spend 2000 pounds to be fitted for a better putter seems to me to be a waste of money.
I dont want an 'improved' experience for 2k, id expect the pinnacle of fittings for that!!
I went for a private fitting, too, with Ping. They asked for my golfing goals? I said, "Break 75" they replied "the fitting plus putter will be approximately £2,000!" "Sorry guys" I said. I meant to say, "Maximise my potential and current skill level on my journey to improve and enjoy my golf game." They apologised and said" no fitting charge just the cost of the putter." "Just promise us you will not use it for every chip shot around the green"
Boy, that is some hourly rate to get to £2000 for a single club fitting!!!!!! You wouldn't have to pay that much for a lesson from Butch Harmon
A “raw” rusty putter is dope asf to me…. Like Jordan sleuths putter I love raw putters and raw wedges
So my 5 iron buckled on contact with a winter mat and Taylormade have said they aren't prepared to fix or replace it as it appears their irons aren't strong enough to withstand contact with a mat. The Sim 2 iron was within guarantee but they have determined from only looking at a photo there is no defect in the iron ... so no inspection of the actual club .. they haven't taken into account the worst winter in years and clubs using mats so continues impact on a mat more than normal. A member at my club had a similar issue with a Ping and it was replaced without issue. So if you want good customer service and clubs that can withstand regular use on winter mats which is a feature of golf in the UK then best not to buy Taylormade. Ping for me now.
I did a PLD putter fitting as well and found it to be similarly underwhelming. Putting on a 50 foot pool table was cool but maybe not the ideal fitting situation. The putter itself is similarly ok but nothing that I felt like really matched up great for me. And the staff was similarly exceptional so kudos to the people but not really the product or service
My whole set of clubs cost less that $2000CA and membership fees are $650CA/yr. There is no bloody way the average hacker can afford $3450CA for a fitting and putter. I love your reviews by the way and the Break 75s are the best.
Fellow Canuck here, and I fully agree with you, eh.
I just don’t get the putter expense. They are so much about look and feel and roll. You can easily find putters under $200 that will perform for you as well as a $2000 putter with fitting.
So what putter are you going to play now Rick,love the podcast BTW.
2000 pound putter fitting? is this a joke? Must be.
When you’re not a really good putter, at some point you have to admit to yourself spending more money isn’t gonna change that, Bryson gave a putting tip that allows me to putt better with a couple different putters that aren’t expensive
BULLY FOR YOU.
Dear Rick Shiels
Thank you so much for your impartial review of the ping (£2000!) putter Who in their right mind would pay that? I love ping especially their putters The anser and original irons were revolutionary. I am assuming Mr Sonhiem was an exceptional engineer who applied his ingenuity to golf with spectacular success: finally my point is sorry l have meander but a refurbished golf coloured anser l bought recently discoloured too after it's first use How?? Although it feels great the grip is tatty. I in hindsight feel was overcharged for it at £130 seconds hand That is the most l have ever paid for a putter But gold colour mesmerised me. I was deluded to think it may be one of the golden putters awarded to a tournament winners Perhaps ones by Seve I know how nieve But surely its lovely gleaming gold colour should not have discoloured very disappointedky after it's first use It like having fake gold jewellery that turns green
Video length: three and a half minutes. Time Rick is actually talking: about 30 seconds. They need to rename this whole podcast... It's not Rick's show, it's Guy's and Rick just throws in a few tidbits here and there.
It's the "Emperors New Clothes". The big brands are fooling the golfer as putter fitting is not going to improve a players game in the way that meaningful practice will.
For £2000 a golfer could have a several putting lessons with a pro and then buy a brand new Scotty Cameron for the next four years!!!
Funny how people whining about the cost of a putter don't waste a second plunking down $500 for a new driver every year that is used maybe 7 times in a round, and does NOTHING to improve your score, while the putter is generally responsible for 40 of your total strokes, unless you get better at it, and you look for the cheapest thing in the rack. The key to the stroke is how you deliver the putter face at impact, doesn't matter how you stand, where your feet are, your arms, hands, NONE OF THAT matters, because it's all an individual thing. Give 20 people the exact same putter, get 20 different results. If you can find a posture and way to bring the putter through online that is consistent 80 % of the time, you're doing something right. You're trying to roll a ball across uneven terrain into a 4.25" hole from varying distances and in varying climates, and throw in some wind while you're at it. Just accept the fact you're going to miss more often than not and you'll be a better and more relaxed golfer, which is the whole point of playing.
So true......I was one of those people lol, spent $599, $350, $299, $299, $750, $150, FOR Driver, 3w, 3h, 4h, irons, 3x wedges (used) BEFORE I got my putter for $220 (used AI-one) and without a doubt the putter and more importantly time spent developing and stabilizing my putting stroke made more of an impact then all the other purchases combine. I probably could have got a similar result with my old putter + time, but the new putter motivated me to really put the time in because I felt so comfortable with it. Many lessons have been learned since I returned to the game 2 years ago lol, most of them $$$ related. Just glad I'm all set for years now.
I use a Taylor made white smoke Fontana putter. It's old putter, I cannot find a putter that has it's feel, no fkk way I spend $2000 on putter fitting wouldn't pay $100
Ouch! Have heard stories about Tour pros literally picking a used putter out of a barrel in a Pro shop and winning a tour event. I firmly believe it is the operator that makes difference.
I think you have to match your putter stroke to the type putter you have I’ve just bought a Wilson “the bean” mallet type cost £80 it has heavier head than my Ping blade putter and all have to do is let it swing like a pendulum using the head weight once you have got used to it’s feel and distance control… it really comes into its own on long lag putts….it’s also face balanced as opposed to my blade which works on slight arc stroke already seen benefits down between 2-3 putts less on average in a round last 10 rounds 👍can just improve putting yourself through trial and error seeking what works and what doesn’t for you and improving technique
Did they cut the price in half? Or include airline voucher and a round at a top 50 course? Because that’s the only way it will ever be close to worth it
Usually I charge £10,000 for this but just this once I'm going to give away my VVVIP Putter Fitting Experience...
1. Buy any half decent putter
2. Put your left hand on the grip
3. Put your right hand on the grip
4. Hit the ball
I'm just bankrupting myself over here, haha
Killing it… 😂😂😂
5. Just hit it in such a way that it goes in
I rather spend the 2K on a full set of clubs!
PXG putter fitting was free and was fantastic. Love the putter I purchased.
Big windows rick they seen you coming £2000 putter fitting I hope there was drinks and a meal for that price plus there should have been a few extra bits a limited addition bag would have been a nice touch rather than a cardboard box
Have an $300.00 Mizuno Milled and Forged M -Craft putter =Awsome putter !!
$2500.00 for a fitting and putter is an example of what is wrong with golf. You have to be an idiot to pay that much money for any part of your golf bag. The golf industry knows that players are not the sharpest tools in the shed and they take advantage of that.
Wow, got on a Quintic for an hour for $125 US. Now the proud owner of a LAB Golf DF3, it cost $459 US. I got a much better deal!
It’s becoming ridiculous that these manufacturers think they can charge what they do. I will shit myself missing a putt it’s a £2000 putter so I will stick to my £80 pounder.
2000 British Pounds??? That converts to over $2500USD!!! Did they fly Rick to another country and put him in a luxury hotel for a week?? A PLD putter is $400USD, where is the rest of the money?? No fitting experience that doesn’t involve gold bullion, or air travel with hotel stay, costs $2100 USD. Please provide receipts.
2,000 for a putter fitting is insane. Straight up insane
My iron set cost 2k. Blueprint S. They came to my house in a standard box with a rubber-band around them. No packing material inside and a big hole in the box. I thought it was a disgrace by Ping to ship like this. Probably never buy there product again.
Yip I can definitely say ‘a £2000 putter’ were the words Jack Nicolas never said
Honestly, they could be selling a magic spell with that fitting that guarantees that I would sink every putt I ever hit from the green for the rest of my life and I still wouldn't pay $2000 for it. That is just an insane price. I'll take my off the shelf putter and enjoy my three putts.
Blimey... a bang average golfer/ youtuber has this much influence.!!.. bonkers
I have always played ping clubs in the past but I feel their pricing has become so exaggerated. The products are very good but I feel it's a steal to pay regular price. Especially when you regular golf shop employees can get them half price off...
That is definitely a ridiculous amount of money and the fact that the putter started to age so quickly is even more off putting. That being said I’d like to see Rick try the LAB golf putters. There is definitely something there. Maybe not the DF line because of the shape but the MEZZ and LINK are excellent
Buy a used putter out of the used club bin for around $10, and spend US $2500 on putting lessons from a reputable golf pro. Or maybe buy a few hundred dollars worth of putting aids, and the rest on lessons.
That’s wild
My off the rack putter was $75, its 15 years old and I consistently putt better than guys with fitted Scotties and LAB. As with any club, big money doesn't necessarily mean big positive result. Much better off spending 2k on lessons.
Instead of matching the experience to the price, they should match the price to the experience.
£2000 for rust?
Have you tried the LAB putters yet?
I spent an hour or so putting with the new lab putter that looks like some kind of ancient Egyptian symbol yesterday. Ngl, I was blown away. Was so easy to hit my lines. It felt a bit softer than I like, but I can’t argue with the results.
Told my wife about it when I got home and she just rolled her eyes. I bought a PLD last summer that I couldn’t control and then a SC in the fall to replace it. I think I’ll wait for my birthday before I start begging lol.
It is hideous though. 😂
@@kennethbnorris the df3 is pretty nice. I played with one at the PGASS. I have the mezz max Broomstick and I love it.
I putted like a pro today with a macgregor fang worth about £30😂
2000 Pounds in Canadian dollars is close to $3500. There isn't a putter fitting experience that would ever justify that price tag....maybe if they flew you Arizona to watch the team make your putter from a slab of metal....and then you got to try it out at TPC Scottsdale included in the price.....maybe then. I mean come on - Ian Fraser and his team (Formerly TXG) do a proper putter fitting for $125 (about 75 pounds).
Can you clarify if the fitting was 2000 pounds or 200? I think in the video you mentioned that the fitting was 200, and the putter was 1800. You could clarify if buying the overpriced putter was mandatory to do the fitting or not, and the video didn't really show the fitting process at all, unless there was a separate video regarding the fitting portion. I think a bit more context would be appreciated.
You are correct, fitting is £200, putter is £1800. Purchase of putter is NOT mandatory.
Ping clubs are awesome though😊
With this price point - is Ping saying that their $300+ putters are that inferior even with a top tier fitter? If Ping are comfortable selling a rusty putter in a cardboard box for $2k and people are actually buying it… good for Ping.
2000 pounds geez you got an experience that ends with an SVU investigation
I hate when people ask you a question just to interrupt constantly
This is why I refuse to do a fitting! If I found "the right guy" I might consider it... But what cost would that entail? Again. This is why I don't go to club fitters. 🤷♂
Side note: my comment is based off the fact that both the actual fitting and the price are ridiculous! Not worth the money!!!
For 2000 pounds I better get a happy ending plus the putter...
2k on a fitting? I guess I'm doing this all wrong
If you can putt you can put 🎉
Some of these putter prices most people should invest in lessons instead of $600+ prices 😢
No Putter should cost 2K unless it's made of pure gold
To be honest £2k for a putter fitting is crazy...the putter itself is worth what, £400 maybe £500 so what is the other £1500-1600 for? I love ping clubs but charging £2k, they're having a laugh and need to massively improve the offering from what I saw in Ricks video.
I'm a 60 yr old 1.1 handicap index player. I putt with a Slazenger Bull's eye putter my Dad gave me. He bought it at a pawn shop in 1982 for R10 ( the equivalent of $0.54 in today's terms). The other day I had 7 putts in 6 holes. The guy I was playing with had a $866.31 Scot
ty Cameron. He had 37 putts in his round. Its the player...not the instrument.
Kind of mind boggling people think its a $2000 fitting. The club accounts for the majority of the cost, still expensive but not a "$2000 putter fitting"
Ok, but considering that a putter isn't much more than a solid cast or milled hunk of steel with carefully considered weighting, there is MUCH less technology than what you would find in a driver, which at their peak is still considerably less expensive. This whole expensive putter nonsense is just another way to fleece people of their money.
Who actually thinks a custom putter fitting experience is worth £2000? Maybe a tour pro...maybe.
2000£ for a fitting? Are they crazy?
Might need to consider a career change to become a putter fitter.
My scotty cameron had rust spots on the face within a week, and they didn't want to know. I won't buy Scotty again!
Wow the price of a second hand car for a putter, might be ok if your using it to make millions but not for just hacking around a golf course. l'd like to bet on average a 5 quid putter from a carboot would give similar results with enough left over to take the family to Spain for a fortnight Ha ha
Guy is great, but sometimes he talks Rick out of the show and basically just talks too much.
He runs the podcast so…..
Guy is not great. He’s absolutely terrible and it’s ok to say it. He thinks Rick’s show and channel should about him and he’s annoying and insufferable.
@soloking2141 harsh! Guy is funny AF!
He’s not great 😂 I can’t watch any course vlogs he’s in
@@rambo1872 He seems to annoy a lot of people, but I like him.
$3800 AUD . Yikes !
Can get a circle t fitted for that price and that’s still overpaying 😮💨