James Longstreet and Confederate Cancel Culture
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Confederate Gen. James Longstreet was one of the original victims of "cancel culture"-and he was "cancelled" by fellow Confederates. Historians Kevin Levin and Todd Groce join the Emerging Civil War Podcast for a discussion of Confederate Cancel Culture.
Kevin Levin writes the Civil War Memory blog on Substack (kevinmlevin.substack.com), and Todd Groce is the president and CEO of the Georgia Historical Society (www.georgiahistory.com).
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Excellent episode!
Fantastic podcast.
Very thought-provoking
Thanks!
At roughly 10 min in we learn of a cannon that sits in Ga with a statement on it that reads "this is a relic of the war of 1836", and somehow people interpret that as offensive and want to take it down? Todd then goes on to say that the people who want it removed don't want us to forget that it happened, they just want us to remember it differently. My question is, In this instance how exactly can you remember something differently than fact? Lets just call most of this for what it is, people want to rewrite history until it becomes fantasy.
I guess for the Creek war we could erect a statue of William Weatherford and Andrew Jackson playing cards, or golfing together with Lionel Ritchie.
As far as Longstreet is concerned, southern people had a right to be unhappy with his change in party affiliation, as Longstreet almost immediately reaped the benefits of doing so by being appointed to political office. Imagine having a loved one lost on the battlefield fighting under Longstreet, and then you hear news that this man now has joined the people you just fought against. If Longstreet believed these actions would endear him to many southerners at that time, then he wasn't in touch with reality.
It's a real sorry state of affairs as someone who dared speak against Lee and southern culture to move on from their position of hate to acceptance, is treated as Judas when the guy literally had indebted his southern brethren the hope of the cause that the South was fighting for.
He was a fantastic general and a great man, who for his old friend Grant spoke the words a century ahead of his time. Too sad that these unifying figures like Longstreet (for South) and George Henry Thomas (for his service to the union cause and him being fed up of states rights) are largely forgotten today!
Excellent! Thank you.
Your discussion of how you think we should view the past is very disappointing. I’m from MN and only been taught the civil war from a northern perspective, as I research and read the writings of the confederate generals and soldiers I cant help but sympathize and agree with their perspective. Your bias is so obvious and bending to todays culture which is full of arrogant weak men. Todds comments of Sherman are disgusting, his historical revisionism should be ignored.
I see a couple Fender jazz basses back there. Greetings my fellow bass player. Cool chat.
They are actually Sadowsky j-basses. One is a 4 and the other a 5-string.
@@kevinlevin4713 Right on, I noticed after I posted that the headstock was a little different.
So much bloviating. I couldn't even hang on until they started talking about Longstreet, whenever that might have been..
You should've stuck with it!
I'll be as charitable as I can. This gentleman Kevin Levin is a fine one to be speaking about "cancel culture", as he has long been extremely rude to those who disagree with him on his blog, to the point of insulting them and then deleting/blocking them from posting there. In other words, literal "cancel culture". Very disappointed in Emerging Civil War to be featuring this person. As if the coverage isn't biased enough.
For the record, I don't block people who disagree with me on my blog or any other social media platform. I do block them if they are rude or insulting to me or others. Thanks for the feedback.
I hope you have a great weekend as well.@@historyandhorseplaying7374
You're equating your hurt feelings with cancel culture. Thanks for the laugh.
@sup8857 No, it's actual cancel culture, in the literal sense.
Get a grip. I am sorry if you believe that you were unjustifiably banned from commenting on my personal website, but to describe it as an example of "cancel culture" is ridiculous. No one is preventing you from speaking or sharing your views. You could have just as easily started your own blog.@@historyandhorseplaying7374
Port Hudson 1863 was the first place I have read that Confederates came in contact with a large number of black troops, not the Crater 1864
Correct. On May 27th '63, the 1st and 3rd Louisiana Native Guards were the first black soldiers committed to combat in the Civil War.
Kevin the Carpetbagger...ugh!
Huh? Dude's a teacher and researcher who lives in Boston.
All involved in this video are below contempt. Statues and celebration of traitors and enemies are not normal.
Brilliant analysis about how James Longstreet was unfairly 'cancelled' after the Civil War!
Longstreet disagreed with Robert E Lee / Pickett's Charge & Longstreet post war chose not to embrace the 'lost cause' sour grapes. Very lazy & cheap Traitor / Enemy insult.
Are you sure even listened to the discussion?
@@emergingcivilwar8965The video is a glorious celebration of the Civil War. Right to the closing statement.
Confederate soldiers were hero’s, they were sons and fathers who were fighting for their beliefs and here you are sitting in you government subsidized housing judging them. 2% of southerners had slaves, do you think all those men were fighting for rich men’s right to have slaves, that’s crazy.
Is objecting to memorializing traitors truly "cancel culture?" Do we need to celebrate those who fought to keep other humans enslaved?
I don't want those horrible people forgotten, I just don't want them celebrated without exposing their crimes.
Crimes?? Don’t throw stones in a glass house.
@@drewstillwell6016 True. I wouldn't want to see statues of G.W. Bush, either.
Ffs, all you guys are wrong. Lee, Longstreet, a one armed orderly, and a casual with a shot gun, fought all the battles of the rebellion. They killed all the Union soldiers except those that ran away.
I was trying to find the page to my paraphrased sarcastic remark from Scott Hartwig's book "To Antietam Creek" when I accidentally hit my keyboard and posted the above comment about seven or eight times. I guess I canceled cultured myself. Anyway, great conversation.